Why Do Most Jews Stay with Obama?

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#1 Aug 12, 2014
Most US Jews are irretrievably liberal. US Jews have been in the forefront of the American Labour movement and the Civil Rights Movement since the 19th century. And, reciprocally, for decades the non-Jewish US Left took a stand (albeit avery tepid stand) against the institutional anti-semitism that was common in the US.

However, in recent decades, the US Left has abandoned its Jewish members to create a marriage of convenience with Islamic militants (and in the process turning its back on the principles of racial equality, religious tolerance and women's rights that defined it for most of the 20th century).

It is difficult for many US Jews to abandon what in many cases is a generational attachment to liberal causes and will turn a blind eye towards the current administrations mistakes, blunders, and occasionally malicious abuse of American liberty at home and American allies abroad.

On the plus side, more and more US Jews are embracing Libertarian and Conservative ideals and support of Israel is at an all time high among the American Jewish community.

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#2 Aug 13, 2014
Rick - where did that come from?

Being attached to "liberal" causes is a natural extension of the Jewish concern for truth and justice.

There is no unified US left. The leftists that support Islamic causes are the same ones that have supported this for over a generation. Most of the more extreme supporters are Arab to begin with.

Overall, the war has been reported here with a moderate to strong anti-Israel bias. That influences those that are clueless, and excites those who were extreme or biased to begin with. Most US Jews have recognized this, and hence have been more than willing to voice their support for Israel. Its a reaction against the press, not against the political left.

Push comes to shove, Most non orthodox Jews, religious or otherwise, are more equally worried of the extreme right and how it has taken over the courts and the republican party. That will keep these Jews from voting republican in the short term, Obama's blunders or otherwise. The orthodox, on the other hand, tend to be clueless or apathetic about domestic issues. But they were already voting Republican anyway.
yehoshooah adam

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#3 Aug 13, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
Most US Jews are irretrievably liberal. US Jews have been in the forefront of the American Labour movement and the Civil Rights Movement since the 19th century. And, reciprocally, for decades the non-Jewish US Left took a stand (albeit avery tepid stand) against the institutional anti-semitism that was common in the US.
However, in recent decades, the US Left has abandoned its Jewish members to create a marriage of convenience with Islamic militants (and in the process turning its back on the principles of racial equality, religious tolerance and women's rights that defined it for most of the 20th century).
It is difficult for many US Jews to abandon what in many cases is a generational attachment to liberal causes and will turn a blind eye towards the current administrations mistakes, blunders, and occasionally malicious abuse of American liberty at home and American allies abroad.
On the plus side, more and more US Jews are embracing Libertarian and Conservative ideals and support of Israel is at an all time high among the American Jewish community.
rabbee: don't you believe HaShem G-D, who already told you what is happening here in TheTorah to all of their enemies? there is nothing different here in Parashas Bereeeshees, than any of the other times G-D gave this same story with the crucifixion of Adam here in Only TheTorah from THEM(HE/SHE). G-D already explained to you, how the whole world is lusting after the subtle talking antiG-D anti-Torah critters of the fields. as the only nearly true multitude i heard of, is in the days with Moshe here in TheTorah. since none of your names are in The-Book of Life(TheTorah) you all have a real antiG-D problem with your not mentally being all here in The-Physical Torah in TheHappening again. G-D is Only giving The-Whole Torah in The Physical Happening again, and you all are not living in G-D'S TheReality here in IT physically all again. as G-D has again had Adam crucified here in TheTorah, and you all go brain-dead with the beast not knowing what happens next here in TheTorah. we were never physically here in any tanach, new testament, or quran, we are physically all here in TheTorah. so i do not care where you all mentally think you are, with your not here in TheTorah fantasy's from the subtle talking critters of the fields again here in Only TheTorah.
yehoshooah adam

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#4 Aug 13, 2014
G-D never came and told anyone they are giving the tanach, the quran or any other new testament. THEY only stated, THEY are giving Only TheTorah period. so quit assuming, you are not here in TheTorah from HaShem G-D still today.

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#5 Aug 13, 2014
The KKK endorses democrats

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#6 Aug 13, 2014
Joseph Smith had miltiple teenage wives
OnlyPatchWork

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#7 Aug 13, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
Most US Jews are irretrievably liberal. US Jews have been in the forefront of the American Labour movement and the Civil Rights Movement since the 19th century. And, reciprocally, for decades the non-Jewish US Left took a stand (albeit avery tepid stand) against the institutional anti-semitism that was common in the US.
However, in recent decades, the US Left has abandoned its Jewish members to create a marriage of convenience with Islamic militants (and in the process turning its back on the principles of racial equality, religious tolerance and women's rights that defined it for most of the 20th century).
It is difficult for many US Jews to abandon what in many cases is a generational attachment to liberal causes and will turn a blind eye towards the current administrations mistakes, blunders, and occasionally malicious abuse of American liberty at home and American allies abroad.
On the plus side, more and more US Jews are embracing Libertarian and Conservative ideals and support of Israel is at an all time high among the American Jewish community.
American Jews are just liberal, to get back at the white goyim.

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#8 Aug 13, 2014
Ikea is a terrorist organization

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#9 Aug 13, 2014
See, I can post stupidity too.
yehoshooah adam

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#10 Aug 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Ikea is a terrorist organization
rabbee: can you name one organization, that is not a terrorist organization against G-D here in TheTorah? when i have not found one organization, that is not the enemy of G-D here in THEIR Giving The Torah again.

i can't even find one individual jew that is not an enemy of G-D, still here in TheTorah. one would think, i should have better luck than Avraham. who could not even name one person true to G-D, in sodam and gomorrah.

as you all continue to think of G-D as a joke, with your not being here in TheTorah THEY are still giving.
Eric

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#11 Aug 14, 2014
I don't understand why Jewish support must be monolithic. Jews are to a large extent liberal because we share a need to support those who are stepped upon by others. That doesn't mean that we need to be in lock step with any one political party nor any one person. Unlike others, we don't have to have one issue that controls our vote.
yehoshooah adam

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#12 Aug 14, 2014
swedenforever wrote:
The KKK endorses democrats
rabbee: does it matter on what diverse side, all you enemies of G-D are on? when the majority were all so easily tricked, into adopting a muslim enemy of G-D for president.
yehoshooah adam

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#13 Aug 14, 2014
swedenforever wrote:
Joseph Smith had miltiple teenage wives
rabbee: only whether you are true to G-D, is relevant here in TheTorah. everything else is, straw man argument. as having multiple teen age wives, is not sufficient proof of being true to G-D or not.
yehoshooah adam

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#14 Aug 14, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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American Jews are just liberal, to get back at the white goyim.
rabbee: their antiG-D problem, is much more worse than that here in TheTorah. their being the enemy of G-D, has always been their major problem. it is insane to be that much of an enemy of G-D, here in The giving of TheTorah again.
yehoshooah adam

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#15 Aug 14, 2014
saying and doing everything that is evil and wicked, in The-Eyes of G-D is genocide insanity. you think they would have learned this, from the holocaust sent by G-D. and here they are again, doing what got them slaughtered in wwii all over again.

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#16 Aug 14, 2014
Eric wrote:
I don't understand why Jewish support must be monolithic...
It isn't, never has been. Don't believe statements like '83% of Jews voted for Obama' because these are speculative numbers partly based on inadequate polling, partly based on stereotypes.

Politically-speaking, Jews are as individual as snowflakes. Just not as ephemeral.

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#17 Aug 14, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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It isn't, never has been. Don't believe statements like '83% of Jews voted for Obama' because these are speculative numbers partly based on inadequate polling, partly based on stereotypes.
Politically-speaking, Jews are as individual as snowflakes. Just not as ephemeral.
True, but bottom line is that most non haredi Jews in America are less than enthused by the Republican party's social jihad. Therefore, like Obama or hate him, most Jews will vote democratic, if only to preserve quality of life.

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#18 Aug 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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...most Jews will vote democratic, if only to preserve quality of life.
You illustrate my initial point. I'm sure you truly believe that the Democratic Party is preserving and even improving the quality of life for Jews (and by extension everyone else) in the country / world. I'm sure you believe this, and most likely your parents and their parents, but, empirically, that just isn't the case.

This isn't to say that a Republican Party would be any better or worse at doing that same. It's is the blind allegiance to any party that prevents people from seeing just how destructive politics of any stripe can be.

My problem with the Democrats and the Left (I realize they aren't synonymous) is that unlike the Republicans and the Right, who largely ignore American Jews but are supportive of Israel, the American Left and elements of the Democratic Party are actively antagonistic towards Israels and American Jews. Statements from incumbent Democrats such as Pat Quill, Cynthia Kenny, Earl Hilliard and James Moran, as well as party luminaries like Jackson and Sharpton, might appear to be isolated incidents but their attacks on Israel and the Jews are more often glossed over rather than condemned by the party. In my opinion, these are early symptoms of where the Democratic Party is heading.

Attend of a few anti-Israel rallies in which Democrats and Democrat politicians take active part and listen to what is being said on the liberal college campuses of America. The rhetoric is extreme and it is not just 'anti-Zionist' it is antisemitic to a degree unseen in America since the 1930's.

Like the trite, hackneyed example of a frog in boiling water (which I don't believe actually works) American Democrats may one day awake to find they have been supporting a party which actively seeks to do them harm.

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#19 Aug 14, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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You illustrate my initial point. I'm sure you truly believe that the Democratic Party is preserving and even improving the quality of life for Jews (and by extension everyone else) in the country / world. I'm sure you believe this, and most likely your parents and their parents, but, empirically, that just isn't the case.
This isn't to say that a Republican Party would be any better or worse at doing that same. It's is the blind allegiance to any party that prevents people from seeing just how destructive politics of any stripe can be.
My problem with the Democrats and the Left (I realize they aren't synonymous) is that unlike the Republicans and the Right, who largely ignore American Jews but are supportive of Israel, the American Left and elements of the Democratic Party are actively antagonistic towards Israels and American Jews. Statements from incumbent Democrats such as Pat Quill, Cynthia Kenny, Earl Hilliard and James Moran, as well as party luminaries like Jackson and Sharpton, might appear to be isolated incidents but their attacks on Israel and the Jews are more often glossed over rather than condemned by the party. In my opinion, these are early symptoms of where the Democratic Party is heading.
Attend of a few anti-Israel rallies in which Democrats and Democrat politicians take active part and listen to what is being said on the liberal college campuses of America. The rhetoric is extreme and it is not just 'anti-Zionist' it is antisemitic to a degree unseen in America since the 1930's.
Like the trite, hackneyed example of a frog in boiling water (which I don't believe actually works) American Democrats may one day awake to find they have been supporting a party which actively seeks to do them harm.
Its a mental calculation regarding priorities. Whats more important to American Jews right now? Maintaining freedom of religion and inclusiveness in America? or concern for Israel? Because its an either/or choice. Republicans tend to be more pro-Israel but concern for the American homeland comes first because we live here. The Republicans are a disaster to our day to day.

Ideally we would be better off without either party. But the Democrats are not engaged in a frontal assault on civil lifestyle, so they earn a free pass for the moment.

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#20 Aug 14, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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You illustrate my initial point. I'm sure you truly believe that the Democratic Party is preserving and even improving the quality of life for Jews (and by extension everyone else) in the country / world. I'm sure you believe this, and most likely your parents and their parents, but, empirically, that just isn't the case.
This isn't to say that a Republican Party would be any better or worse at doing that same. It's is the blind allegiance to any party that prevents people from seeing just how destructive politics of any stripe can be.
My problem with the Democrats and the Left (I realize they aren't synonymous) is that unlike the Republicans and the Right, who largely ignore American Jews but are supportive of Israel, the American Left and elements of the Democratic Party are actively antagonistic towards Israels and American Jews. Statements from incumbent Democrats such as Pat Quill, Cynthia Kenny, Earl Hilliard and James Moran, as well as party luminaries like Jackson and Sharpton, might appear to be isolated incidents but their attacks on Israel and the Jews are more often glossed over rather than condemned by the party. In my opinion, these are early symptoms of where the Democratic Party is heading.
Attend of a few anti-Israel rallies in which Democrats and Democrat politicians take active part and listen to what is being said on the liberal college campuses of America. The rhetoric is extreme and it is not just 'anti-Zionist' it is antisemitic to a degree unseen in America since the 1930's.
Like the trite, hackneyed example of a frog in boiling water (which I don't believe actually works) American Democrats may one day awake to find they have been supporting a party which actively seeks to do them harm.
Again, its not that the Democrats are IMPROVING our quality of life, its that the Republicans appear to be doing everything in their power to DEGRADE our quality of life.

Its not allegiance to Democrats, its voting against Republicans. JUdging from the abysmal support the republicans are getting from anyone other than older white people, I am in belief that I share the majority viewpoint on this, Jewish or otherwise.

I agree that anti-semitism is rearing its ugly head, but this is not endemic to the democratic party. Life isnt perfect.

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