Blaming Israel for carnage

Full story: Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Most media outlets aren't providing news of Israel's barbaric air raids on Lebanon with fairness and integrity.

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I need to swallow some come. I'm a nutsack teabagging fool. Let me lap it up. Yum yum.

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No lawyers, no Arabic speakers: IDF court judge condems Israel Police interrogations of Palestinian minors.

[17 July 2013]- The Judea Military Court has slammed the way Israeli law enforcement authorities treat Palestinian minors suspected of criminal offenses.
Diskin: Israel nears point of no return on two-state solution

[13 July 2013]- Former Shin Bet chief calls on Netanyahu to "overcome fears"; fears Mideast conflict is taking a back seat in Israeli public interest.
Haaretz - IDF soldiers detain a five-year-old Palestinian for stone-throwing in Hebron

[11 July 2013]- Israel Defense Forces soldiers earlier this week were videotaped detaining a five-year-old Palestinian boy in Hebron, after he allegedly threw a stone at an Israeli car on Tuesday.
The Times of Israel - UN report says Israel routinely abuses Palestinian minors

[20 June 2013]- The Israeli military routinely mistreats Palestinian minors in the West Bank, according to a recently released UN report, which accused the IDF of torturing and denying basic human rights to children in military custody.

Reuters - UN: Palestinian children tortured, used as human shields by Israel

[20 June 2013]- New UN human rights agency report claims Israeli forces arbitrarily arrest Palestinian children in Gaza and West Bank, subject them to degrading treatment, exploit them to scope out potentially dangerous buildings and use them to deter potential stone throwers.
The Guardian - Israeli prison contracts take centre stage at G4S shareholder meeting

[6 June 2013] The new boss of G4S, Ashley Almanza, faced a barrage of tough questions over the security company's business in Israel at his first meeting with shareholders on Thursday.
Haaretz - Dozens of inmates, including minors, held in isolation

[30 May 2013]- Over 100 inmates have been held in complete isolation at Israeli prisons for months or years under harsh conditions, a stormy debate in the Knesset Interior Committee revealed on Wednesday.
The Australian – UN’S circle of unaccountability

[13 April 2013]- It would be difficult to imagine a more bizarre press conference. When UNICEF recently notified journalists in Jerusalem that it was releasing a report on Palestinian children in Israel's military justice system, there was much interest.
Associated Press - UNICEF urges Israel to reform detention of minors

[6 March 2013]- Israel must reform its system of military detention for Palestinian minors, a U.N. report said Wednesday, saying an in-depth study showed it systematically and gravely violated their rights. The United Nations Children's Fund report was based on interviews with 400 children and minors arrested, detained and jailed in Israel's military court system
AFP - Israel ill-treatment of Palestinian minors "systematic"

[6 March 2013]- The ill-treatment of Palestinian minors held within the Israeli military detention system is "widespread, systematic and institutionalised," a report by the UN children's fund found.

In the 22-page report entitled "Children in Israeli Military Detention," UNICEF said Israel was the only country in the world where children were "systematically tried" in military courts

http://www.militarycourtwatch.org/category.ph...

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BETTER LATE THAN NEVER BUT WILL CHANGE OCCUR???

Israel acknowledges need for change following criticism of arrests of Palestinian children in West Bank

By John Lyons, Sylvie Le Clezio and Janine Cohen

Updated Sat 8 Feb 2014,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-08/four-co...
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Sheilaa wrote:
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Your facts are often not facts. have studied the subject academically and worked in the field
You make assumptions based on general belief rather than reality.
A: Whereas yours are on the other hand and yet you are only able to provided Jewish websites to support your claims. Not exactly what I would call unbiased reports
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The Arabs fought mostly on the side of the Ottomans that is a fact ignored to perpetuate the myth
A: Are you now trying to deflect and ignore the fact that Arabs fought on the side of Britain and as a result were promised independence?
Notice how you write Jews not Israelis or Zionists? was that a mistake out of frustration?? Did you write your mind more clearly?
A: Not at all it was written to distinguish between the Jews of Israel and all other inhabitants of Israel
These Bedouins STOLE large plots of land they had no claim to and seem unable to come to any sort of agreement with the Government which offered to build them proper cities in partly different locations and give them large plots of land for free. These Bedouin tribes harass the "Jews", steal their cattle, destroy their fields. Why no mention of this?? Because you probably know nothing about the subject you are spamming an opinion piece on.
A: You mean just like the Jews stole the land belonging to the Palestinians and how they are continuing to? Like the current settlers harassing the Palestinians. What government? The illegal one that unilaterally declared its independence on someone else's land?
THERE YOU GO WITH THE JEWISH THING AGAIN AS THOUGH ALL JEWS AREN'T TO BE TRUSTED HERE. UNLESS OF COURSE THEY SUPPORT YOU.

No I am saying the truth but you probably have not even looked into it to see if i am correct before replying. The Arabs mostly fought with the Ottomans and in Palestine a Jewish Brigade fought for the British.

Nice cover on the Jewish thing but you repeated it again here referring to Jewish websites.
As usual deflecting unable to admit that these Bedouins do not have a right to all the land they stole. You bought up the Bedouins so now don't try to change the subject. The fact is that the Bedouins don't own the land and have settled in large parts of the Negev, There is no country in the world I can think of which would allow thousands of buildings to be built illegally on land the builder doesn't own. This is the same with the 100,000's of Illegal Arab building throughout the land. But you only see the Jews and with Beer goggles at that.

The Palestinians "harass" the Settlers more than the other way around. But you don't care about Jews dying. You can count on your hand the number of shootings against Arabs by "Settlers" but you couldn't count on 1000 hands the number of shootings against Settlers by Arabs.

YOU STILL HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT THE PALESTINIANS HAVE A LEGAL CLAIM AS A NATION TO THE LAND.

YOU ALSO REFUSE TO STATE THE LEGAL BORDERS ACCORDING TO YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.

YOU SEEM UNABLE TO SHOW ANYTHING PEACEFUL EVER COMING FROM THE PALESTINIANS.

YOU REFUSE TO CONDEMN BUT INSTEAD JUSTIFY INTENTIONAL TERRORISM AGAINST JEWISH CIVILIANS.

As usual you ignore Jewish ownership of land, incitement and violence against Jews, and really Jews defending themselves at all You speak of Jews not Zionists and you clearly don't differentiate between the two. If you would even define Zionist as you have not yet.
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Funny and yet if it wasn't for Britain, Israel would not exist today.
That's exactly right they had no right to recommend that the Jews be given a national homeland in the land of others
Palestine was a class A mandate as has been noted by none Jewish and Jewish historians alike. Just because you chose to deny that claim does not mean it is correct
Class A mandates consisted of the former Turkish provinces of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, AND Palestine. These territories were considered sufficiently advanced that their provisional independence was recognized, though they were still subject to Allied administrative control until they were fully able to stand alone. Iraq and Palestine (including modern Jordan and Israel) were assigned to Great Britain, while Turkish-ruled Syria and Lebanon went to France. All Class A mandates had reached full independence by 1949.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/361...
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Not really if it wasn't for the Jews who fought and died, Israel wouldn't exist today.
There is no mention of Palestinians, Arabs, nor any political rights for the inhabitants. The Mandate speaks for itself in its text which is clear about the creation of a Jewish state.
STILL WAITING FOR A LEGAL BASIS FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE.

SO THE LINK ABOVE YOU POSTED, DO YOU NOW ADMIT JORDAN WAS PART OF PALESTINE.
Balfour is not the Mandate and it was the LoN who created and voted for the mandate so you can blame numerous countries.

Yes this sacred trust was to the Jews. The Arabs of Palestine were not a separate entity from the rest of the Arabs until last century mostly to negate Zionism.

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THERE YOU GO WITH THE JEWISH THING AGAIN AS THOUGH ALL JEWS AREN'T TO BE TRUSTED HERE. UNLESS OF COURSE THEY SUPPORT YOU.
No I am saying the truth but you probably have not even looked into it to see if i am correct before replying. The Arabs mostly fought with the Ottomans and in Palestine a Jewish Brigade fought for the British.
Nice cover on the Jewish thing but you repeated it again here referring to Jewish websites.
As usual deflecting unable to admit that these Bedouins do not have a right to all the land they stole. You bought up the Bedouins so now don't try to change the subject. The fact is that the Bedouins don't own the land and have settled in large parts of the Negev, There is no country in the world I can think of which would allow thousands of buildings to be built illegally on land the builder doesn't own. This is the same with the 100,000's of Illegal Arab building throughout the land. But you only see the Jews and with Beer goggles at that.
The Palestinians "harass" the Settlers more than the other way around. But you don't care about Jews dying. You can count on your hand the number of shootings against Arabs by "Settlers" but you couldn't count on 1000 hands the number of shootings against Settlers by Arabs.
YOU STILL HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT THE PALESTINIANS HAVE A LEGAL CLAIM AS A NATION TO THE LAND.
YOU ALSO REFUSE TO STATE THE LEGAL BORDERS ACCORDING TO YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.
YOU SEEM UNABLE TO SHOW ANYTHING PEACEFUL EVER COMING FROM THE PALESTINIANS.
YOU REFUSE TO CONDEMN BUT INSTEAD JUSTIFY INTENTIONAL TERRORISM AGAINST JEWISH CIVILIANS.
As usual you ignore Jewish ownership of land, incitement and violence against Jews, and really Jews defending themselves at all You speak of Jews not Zionists and you clearly don't differentiate between the two. If you would even define Zionist as you have not yet

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Don't tell me what I do and don't know you ignorant twat. I am done wasting my time responding to you. You are a one sided hypocrite who denies what Jews have done to the Palestinians.You cry victim at the drop of a hat ad nauseum. Everyone is against Israel blah, blah,blah. Go and waste someone else's time because it certainly won;t be mine from now on. The topic of this forum is about Israel not Palestine so deal with it

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Funny how the topic is about Palestine but some people can't admit, or do at a push, that the Arabs fought along side the British as they were promised their independence if they did
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As usual you presenting Israel as the victim instead of the ogre.that we all know it to be. Yet another group who are also against Israel. My my there are so many of them as far as you and your ilk are concerned
Once again it seems that everyone and every group is against the state of Israel. This time it is the turn of the group called Breaking the Silence who are themselves Israeli soldiers that you are now trying to demean
As far as a case of the IDF using Palestinian children sure here's an example reported by Haaretz...
It has nothing to do with what you have posted and everything to do with Israel renigging on the deal they made with the Palestinians. Trying to deflect by who those people were is neither here or there. Facts are what the issue is all about and what Israel agreed on
Israel furious at UN report detailing torture of Palestinian children
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I could go on and on but I'm sure people here are all starting to see the ongoing ploy of Israel to play victim whilst at the same time destroying the life of the Palestinians with gay abandon
We live in hard times while the Europeans and others offer $1,000,000's to fund anti Israeli activity. Most of these orgs are a branch of the EU when you look at their funding. Basically the EU is intentionally messing with internal Israeli politics in the guise of human rights.

I know some of these people. What do you know about them apart from reading crap from Veterans today and Rense?

That is not an example but a general statement as usual.

SO YOU AND THE PALESTINIANS HAVE MAGICALLY CHANGED THE AGREEMENT. It included good faith negotiations and some result. The last prisoners were only going to be released if the peace deal went somewhere. So it was Abbas who reneged on he agreement.

Since the UN has no credibility being run by the most evil nations in the world who cares what they say. What are they doing about the millions of people who have been massacred around the world. Each tyranny or dictatorship protects the others. Human rights council my ass.

Interesting you mention Gay as anyone Gay is killed in Palestinians society.

So please explain how these peaceful Palestinians farmers took two Israeli soldiers and literally ripped their body parts out with their hands? Snipper shot a baby in her fathers hands, Fogel family women, children, babies massacred in their beds, and hundreds more cases of intentional acts by the "Civilian Palestinians"?

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Ed Miliband warns Israeli settlement expansion pose a 'mortal threat'
Labour leader Ed Miliband condemns West Bank settlements as 'wrong and illegal'

Ed Miliband has condemned the expansion of Israeli settlements on the Palestinian West Bank and warned they pose a "mortal threat" to hopes of securing a two-state solution to the conflict.

The Labour leader is a supporter of "the homeland for the Jewish people" but has made clear he does not give blanket backing to the actions of the Israeli government.

Mr Miliband, who is of Jewish descent but an atheist, made his strongest criticism yet during a visit to the Middle East, blasting the policy as "wrong and illegal".

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Funny?
Not as funny as that ugly Pan-face of yours, zipper head.
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CAUGHT A HASBARAT BY HIS TOE.....again
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Sorry, but I only have time to debunk two of "zioni's" "deliberate falsehoods"
1. "There is a common myth spread around the internet that since Jews only owned under 10% of the land called W.Palestine "
- "That "common myth" is the most reliable and credible source on record for the region."
I encourage readers who are NOT paid, full time employees of Israel's Hasbara Industry to look at the "British Mandatory Palestine; Census and Survey"
“British Mandate: A Survey of Palestine, prepared by the British Mandate for UN prior to proposing the 1947 partition plan”
A complete transcript can be found at:
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Books...
...or any number of sources
Below are the figures for 1922, long after Foreign, European Ashkenazi Zionists came from afar and began invading Palestine
REPORT ON
PALESTINE ADMINISTRATION, 1922.
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/A682CABF7...
XVI.--CENSUS.
Moslems .......... 590,890
Jews .......... 83,794
Christians .......... 73,024
Druzes .......... 7,028
Samaritans .......... 163
Bahais .......... 265
Metawallis .......... 156
Hindoos .......... 1,454
Sikhs .......... 408
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2." Palestinians have died mostly in war while Jews are murdered intentionally as Palestinian policy. "
- I have told "zioni" repeatedly that it is Israel that has a Plan that calls for the Extermination and Expulsion of all non Jews; Plan Dalet
Plan Dalet has been Israel policy in fervent practice since before 1948 and remains declared Israeli policy.
Israel has been convicted of Genocide for systematically exterminating and Expelling Palestinians for over 60 years:
“Genocide verdict against Israel sets a key precedent”
http://rt.com/op-edge/tribunal-israel-genocid...
PLAN DALET:
“Israel’s “Plan Dalet”: The Green Light for Zionism’s Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels-plan-dal...
EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. "
And:
-Hamas DOES NOT have the destruction of Israel" as part of its Charter.
“Hamas drops call for destruction of Israel from manifesto”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/12/...
“How many times must the Palestinians recognize Israel?”
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.579...
“Netanyahu’s new 'Jewish state' mantra negates the fact that Palestinians recognized Israel more than twenty years ago. They’re still waiting for Israel to recognize Palestine.”
"Zioni" cas been caught in countless other deliberate falsehoods yet continues along his Hasbara's "Tell a lie over and over....." ploy
Among Zioni's" more blatant lies is:
"Israel doesn't use phosphorus"
There's a reason he doesn't provide documentation except for "Hasbara Talking Points" & the infamous censorship lobby: C.A.M.E.R.A.
Shut the fck up you old queen!

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Israel offers deal to rescue peace talks

Israeli minister tells The Telegraph that 26 prisoners could be freed if the Palestinians 'cancel' a bid to join international conventions. Yuval Steinitz says that Arab Israelis could be released from jail - but only if America frees an Israeli spy

See the hypocrisy of Israel? Peace talks can stall re the prisoners but they will release 26 of them if America frees an Israeli spy that has nothing to do with the Palestinians

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mid...
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Bot as funny as that butt ugly pan face of yours zipper head!

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Hillie Billie Boganed wrote:
<quoted text>Shut the fck up, you pretentious fat c*nt and get off my thread!

Nah try and make me you ignorant dummy!!!!! I suggest that everyone report this dummy for their crude and disgusting language

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Obviously the dummy called Zioni is unable to read that her/his comments will no longer be replied to by myself. LOL

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Palestinian children in Military Detention report from UNICEF

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Miss Piggie Renton WA wrote:
<quoted text>Shut the fck up you old queen!
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<quoted text>Not as funny as that ugly Pan-face of yours, zipper head.
Miss Piggie Renton WA wrote:
<quoted text>Shut the fck up, you pretentious fat c*nt and get off my thread!
Miss Piggie Renton WA wrote:
<quoted text>Bot as funny as that butt ugly pan face of yours zipper head!
Quit nicking our ID, Miss Woggie, you fat c*nt .

Guess what fcking Bot will post next.

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Double Standards

"Re The Occupied Palestinian Territory, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) opined that, alongside the law of belligerent occupation, the human rights treaties to which Israel is a party apply to Israel’s actions in the OT.This has also been the consistent position of the treaty bodies that monitor implementation of those treaties. The Government of Israel has NEVER accepted this position. The HCJ has
refrained from ruling on the formal applicability of human rights treaties, but in many judgments relating to the OT written in recent years it has relied on provisions in these treaties. In most cases it has justified this position by stating that the cited norms are also part of the law of belligerent occupation or of Israeli law that binds the authorities.
Domestic enforcement of international norms
Although the accepted legal regime in the OT is one of belligerent occupation, application of the norms of this regime by the HCJ must be seen in light of the status of international law before the domestic courts of Israel. Israel follows the English approach, under which norms of customary international law will be enforced by the domestic courts as long as they are not incompatible with primary legislation, while the provisions in international conventions that bind the state will not be enforced by the courts unless they have become part of customary law or have been adopted by parliamentary legislation. The courts must
interpret legislation according to the presumption of compatibility with Israel’s international obligations, but in the case of a clear clash between primary legislation and a norm of customary or conventional international law, the legislation prevails.
When the Court first related to the Hague Regulations and the Fourth
Geneva Convention it lumped both these instruments together as treaty law. However, it later admitted that it had been mistaken and that all the provisions of the Hague Regulations are part of customary law. On the other hand, the Court held that the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention are not necessarily all part of such law. This ruling is significant, since, although Israel ratified all four Geneva Conventions in 1951, the Conventions have never been incorporated in domestic law.
Despite the above ruling and the fact that the government has questioned the formal application of the Fourth Geneva Convention in the West Bank and Gaza, in recent years the HCJ has been quite ready to rely on the Convention.
Sometimes it has done so after government counsel declared that the authorities’ action was compatible with provisions of the Convention At other times the Court has simply relied on provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention without any explanation. In many cases, the Court has latched onto the government undertaking to abide by the humanitarian provisions of the Convention as the basis for relying on its provisions, without formally ruling whether the Convention applies or may be enforced by domestic courts"

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<quoted text>Everyone should report this poster (Sheilaa) for spam, plagiarism, unauthorized copy pasting, racism, bigotry, anti Semitism and abusive behavior. <¦-o
Give it your best shot dummy and let's see whose posts get deleted. BTW learn what the terms plagiarism and anti Semite mean before you comment on them. LOL
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<quoted text>Everyone should report this poster (Sheilaa) for spam, plagiarism, unauthorized copy pasting, racism, bigotry, anti Semitism and abusive behavior. <¦-o
You, shut up your mouth, crude and disgusting Yiddish ID nicking Shill.

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