What Can Washington Do About Iran?

Dec 6, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Mother Jones

The current U.S. strategy is not exactly a raging success-perhaps detente rather than military power is how we might breach that Wall of Mistrust with Iran.

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Kamran kia

Bournemouth, UK

#1 Dec 7, 2012
acceptance of Iran as a regional power, mutual respect, resolving regional boarder issues ie Israel and palestin. Less talk of more wars, and finally lifting sanctions. Allowing Iranians decide how they want to be governed. All people Iran know how to deal with wrong they faced it every 20 years by means of an uprising or revolution. Rest assure you don't have to wait long before people make the best desision it may be a desision that is not of us choice but even staying as they are it will be their choice. As for making a bomb or progress towards one you can trust if Iran wanted it with the help of N Korea , china, Russia , Belarus etc all friends to America would have made more than one by now. But I don't think it needs one.
As for sanctions it is damaging ordinary people more than the government. And ordinary people of Iran see that their enemy is trying to force them to obey.
Make peace and negotiate.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#2 Dec 7, 2012
Considering the history of discord beginning with the CIA destruction of the Democratic government of Iran with "Operation TP Ajax" and Washington's intimidation and out-right hostile attitude towards Iran every since, then the real question might be ....... "What Can Tehran Do About the U.S.?

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

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#3 Dec 7, 2012
The coup in question was a British initiative, but the CIA was involved. Recall that the prime reason for the coup was the nationalization of the British oil facilities built at British expense. At that time, no, Iran was not a true democracy, and the PM was not elected in a general election but was appointed. Given all the mischief Iran has done and is doing, Iran is pretty much fucked unless it changes its tune soon. Nobody much cares, as Iran's few friends are the scum of the planet.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#4 Dec 7, 2012
Operation TP Ajax was an American operation. Full stop. The fact that the UK asked for US help is of little consequence.

British oil facilities was an imperialist action, stealing (more or less) Iran's natural resource and being at the heart of poverty in the country. Iran, by democratic rights, brought oil production revenues back to the Iranian people and introduced prosperity to its population.

Iran's democracy at that time (1950's) was argueably of a higher standard than that of the U.S. Remember that up untill the early 1960's Americans were still lynching black people.

Iran has offered to "bury the hatchet" with the U.S. and has on many opportunites extended its hand in both friendship and cooperation in combating terrorism and against terrorist organizations, such as Al Qaida. The U.S. however has refused to make the slightest effort to normalize relations with Iran.

On EVERY incident relating to U.S./Iran it is Iran who is "the good guy" and the U.S. "the bad guy".

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#5 Dec 7, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
Operation TP Ajax was an American operation. Full stop. The fact that the UK asked for US help is of little consequence.
British oil facilities was an imperialist action, stealing (more or less) Iran's natural resource and being at the heart of poverty in the country. Iran, by democratic rights, brought oil production revenues back to the Iranian people and introduced prosperity to its population.
Iran's democracy at that time (1950's) was argueably of a higher standard than that of the U.S. Remember that up untill the early 1960's Americans were still lynching black people.
Iran has offered to "bury the hatchet" with the U.S. and has on many opportunites extended its hand in both friendship and cooperation in combating terrorism and against terrorist organizations, such as Al Qaida. The U.S. however has refused to make the slightest effort to normalize relations with Iran.
On EVERY incident relating to U.S./Iran it is Iran who is "the good guy" and the U.S. "the bad guy".


Sweden never should have let you oinkers in. The coup was a British MI5 enterprise, and no historian disputes that. The oil facilities that Iran stole were the result of British exploration and refining at British expense, and Iran outright nationalized them like a thief in the night. Thereafter Iran simply couldn't master the oil business. Even today the Iranian clowns cannot drill, exploit, and refine its own oil efficiently. Poverty in Iran then as now was a result of its corrupt government and general ineptitude. Iran was simply not a democracy in the 50s, and again that is indisputable. The lynchings in the USA ended well before 1950, with a handful of exceptions, and had nothing to do with democracy per se. President Obama publicly extended his hand to Iran's midget puppet and had it slapped away: did you forget that or are you just lying again? There is absolutely no doubt around the world as to good and bad, and Iran and its buddies North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela lead the bad pack, a pile of pig shit.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#6 Dec 7, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh .....
I don't feel like giving you a lesson on Middle Eastern history against your voluntary, selective ignorance. You go ahead and believe what you want. This dialog is over.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#7 Dec 7, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't feel like giving you a lesson on Middle Eastern history against your voluntary, selective ignorance. You go ahead and believe what you want. This dialog is over.
Run, oinker, run. You've been proven a liar, so why stick around!
Die

Germany

#8 Dec 7, 2012
to accept Iran and leave Iran, stop to meddle, stop to intimidate, stop to sanction.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#9 Dec 7, 2012
Die wrote:
to accept Iran and leave Iran, stop to meddle, stop to intimidate, stop to sanction.
Stop to bad English. Stop to sucking the German social system. Stop to believe in stupid religion. Go back to Iran. Go beat your woman.
Anti-Imperialist

Berlin, Germany

#10 Dec 7, 2012
First they should stop wrongly translate the speeches of iranian politicians!

Iran and Hisbollah even never ever threatened Israel to exterminate Israel from the map. It's a propaganda made by Sunni islamists and and by the war addicted US armament industry!

Watch these interview
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and read this why US media deliberately wrongly translate the speeches of iran politicians!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/...
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/15...

Why isnt the US goverment mentioning that Saudi Arabia is the world's number 1 funder of terrorists?
Why never mentioning anything about the arab spring in saudi Arabia which was extremely brutally by saudi arabian government ?
Why isn't the US media never mentioning that many saud arabians want the extermination of Israel as well as palestinians?
Saudi arabia is allied with the US gpvernment and with the western oil industry!
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#11 Dec 7, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't feel like giving you a lesson on Middle Eastern history against your voluntary, selective ignorance. You go ahead and believe what you want. This dialog is over.
You are dead right.
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#12 Dec 7, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
Operation TP Ajax was an American operation. Full stop. The fact that the UK asked for US help is of little consequence.
British oil facilities was an imperialist action, stealing (more or less) Iran's natural resource and being at the heart of poverty in the country. Iran, by democratic rights, brought oil production revenues back to the Iranian people and introduced prosperity to its population.
Iran's democracy at that time (1950's) was argueably of a higher standard than that of the U.S. Remember that up untill the early 1960's Americans were still lynching black people.
Iran has offered to "bury the hatchet" with the U.S. and has on many opportunites extended its hand in both friendship and cooperation in combating terrorism and against terrorist organizations, such as Al Qaida. The U.S. however has refused to make the slightest effort to normalize relations with Iran.
On EVERY incident relating to U.S./Iran it is Iran who is "the good guy" and the U.S. "the bad guy".
This is a well documented fact.
Truth is hard to accept for some, otherwise how could they justify the continuous agressive stance of the Usa towards Iran.
The root of the problem lies there.
Us foreign policy is a criminal entreprise.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#13 Dec 7, 2012
Die wrote:
to accept Iran and leave Iran, stop to meddle, stop to intimidate, stop to sanction.
I agree.
Anti-Imperialist wrote:
Why never mentioning anything about the arab spring in saudi Arabia which was extremely brutally by saudi arabian government ?
Why isn't the US media never mentioning that many saud arabians want the extermination of Israel as well as palestinians?
Because .......
Anti-Imperialist wrote:
Saudi arabia is allied with the US gpvernment and with the western oil industry!
Correct!
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
Us foreign policy is a criminal entreprise.
EXACTLY.
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#14 Dec 7, 2012
The role of the U.S. in overthrowing the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 and installing the brutal regime of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi is by now well known.
John Waller was the first C.I.A. station chief in Iran, beginning in 1947, and he served there six years until he returned to Washington in 1953 to coordinate the coup d’etat against Mohammed Mosedeq, an Iranian nationalist, who had just nationalized Iran’s oil industry. And, of course, that was the coup that restored the Shah of Iran to his throne after he had fled Iran.
And Waller described to me how the United States reached out to a man named Ahmed Kashani, an ayatollah in Iran and the mentor of Ayatollah Khomeini, in fact. Kashani was then really the king of all Islam in Iran. He worked with an organization, an underground movement called the Devotees of Islam, which was an unofficial branch, again, of the Muslim Brotherhood, even though it was a Shiite organization and the Brotherhood is mostly Sunni. And so, in the 1953 coup d’etat, the United States paid money to Kashani and his religious forces, and they provided the demonstrators, who in turn went out into the streets, saying, "Down with Mosadeq! Bring back the Shah!"
Ayatollah Khomeini, himself, who later became the undisputed dictator of Iran in 1979,’81, well, Khomeini himself was in the street with his mentor, Kashani, saying, "Down with Mosedeq! Bring back the Shah!" And so, while the Iranian Shiite religious fundamentalist movement was always suspicious of the Shah and certainly clashed with him repeatedly over the next 25 years, its prime enemy was communism and nationalism.
In his speech in Cairo last month, President Barack Obama even referenced the CIA-backed coup, acknowledging “In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government.”
During the Reagan administration, the U.S. illegally sold arms to the Iranian regime even while supporting Saddam Hussein in Iraq’s devastating war against the Islamic Republic.
On November 19, 1986, at the beginning of the controversy, Bob Woodward of the Washington Post wrote that the Reagan administration's secret overtures and arms shipments to Iran were part of a seven-year pattern of covert CIA operations designed both to curry favor with Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's regime and to support the Iranian exiles seeking to overthrow it.
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#15 Dec 8, 2012
What has Washington done about Iran would be the right question.

US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton acknowledged in October 2006 that regime change was the “ultimate objective” of the U.S. sanctions policy, and adding that it “puts pressure on them internally” and “helps democratic forces” within the country and amongst the Iranian Diaspora.[

To this end, the State Department created the Office of Iranian Affairs (OIA) under the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, which would “reach out to the Iranian people” and bring more Iran experts into the Foreign Service and more Persian-speaking officers into the OIA, the Intelligence and Research Bureau (INR), and other branches of the State Department. Part of the “outreach” effort would be based in Dubai, a “natural location” for a regional office due to its “proximity to Iran and access to an Iranian Diaspora”.[23]
The Dubai office would be modeled on the listening station in the Latvian capital of Riga, according to the document, which was where the U.S. had a listening station to gather information on the Soviet Union during the 1920s (George Kennan was at one time stationed there). The Iranian media has referred to the station as the “regime-change office.” A State Department official based in Dubai said the office’s purpose “is to get a sense of what’s going on in Iran. It is not some recruiting office and is not organizing the next revolution in Iran.”[24]
But the State Department cable also stated that among responsibilities of the Deputy Director of the Dubai station would be to seek “ways to use USG programs and funding to support Iranian political and civic organizations” and “to alert Washington on [the] need to issue statements on behalf of Iranian dissidents.”
The OIA would also create an International Relations Officer Generalist (IROG) position in Istanbul to advance “U.S. policy objectives with the Iranian [expatriate] community” in Turkey and Israel. A similar position would be created for the same purpose in Frankfurt, London, and Baku.
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#16 Dec 8, 2012
Heard of NED ?

National Endowment for Democracy
NED is also active in Iran, granting hundreds of thousands of dollars to Iranian groups. From 2005 to 2007, NED gave $345,000 to the Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation (ABF).[11] The group claims “no political affiliation” on its website, but is named for the founder of the National Movement of the Iranian Resistance (NAMIR), an opposition group to the clerical regime founded in 1980. According to the group’s website, Boroumand was murdered by agents of the Iranian government in Paris, France, in 1991.[12] The website is registered to the Boroumand Foundation, listed at Suite 357, 3220 N ST., NW, Washington, D.C.

Another recipient of NED grants is the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), which received $25,000 in 2002,$64,000 in 2005, and $107,000 in 2006. The 2002 grant was to carry out a “media training workshop” to train participants representing various civic groups in public relations. The 2005 money was given in part to “strengthen the capacity of civic organizations in Iran”, including by advising Iranian groups on “foreign donor relations.” The 2006 grant was similarly designed to “foster cooperation between Iranian NGOs and the international civil society community and to strengthen the institutional capacity of NGOs in Iran.”[14]
The group’s president is Dr. Trita Parsi, whose parents fled political repression in Iran when he was four. He studied for his Doctoral thesis at the Johns Hopkins’ School for Advanced International Studies under Professor Francis Fukuyama.[15]
Fukuyama wrote in 2007 that “Ahmadinejad may be the new Hitler”, but that the use of military force against Iran “looks very unappealing”, and that air strikes “would not result in regime change”, which was “the only long-term means of stopping” Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program.[16] The NIAC similarly opposes the use of military force against Iran, and instead “supports the idea of resolving the problems between the US and Iran through dialogue in order to avoid war.”[17]
Following the Iranian election and subsequent violence, NIAC issued a statement saying,“The only plausible way to end the violence is for new elections to be held with independent monitors ensuring its fairness.”[18]
Last November, the Iranian ambassador to the United Nations Mohammad-Javad Zarif charged the U.S. with attempting to orchestrate a “velvet revolution” in Iran. One of the means by which this was being carried out, he said, was by means of workshops.“American officials have been inviting Iranian figures to so-called scientific seminars over the past few years”, he said.“However, when the Iranians attend these sessions, they realize they have gathered to discuss measures to topple the Iranian government”.
ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#17 Dec 8, 2012
Some more maybe ?

May 22, 2007 G W Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran
The CIA has received secret presidential approval to mount a covert "black" operation to destabilize the Iranian government, current and former officials in the intelligence community tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com . The sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the subject, say President Bush has signed a "nonlethal presidential finding" that puts into motion a CIA plan that reportedly includes a coordinated campaign of propaganda, disinformation and manipulation of Iran’s currency and international financial transactions.
The sources say the CIA developed the covert plan over the last year and received approval from White House officials and other officials in the intelligence community. Officials say the covert plan is designed to pressure Iran to stop its nuclear enrichment program and end aid to insurgents in Iraq.
Everybody in the region knows that there is a proxy war already afoot with the United States supporting anti-Iranian elements in the region as well as opposition groups within Iran," said Vali Nasr, adjunct senior fellow for Mideast studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. "And this covert action is now being escalated by the new U.S. directive.
Also briefed on the CIA proposal, according to intelligence sources, were National Security Advisor Steve Hadley and Deputy National Security Advisor Elliott Abrams. "The entire plan was blessed by Abrams, in particular," said one intelligence source familiar with the plan. "And Hadley had to put his chop on it." Abrams’ last involvement with attempting to destabilize a foreign government led to criminal charges.
He pleaded guilty in October 1991 to two misdemeanor counts of withholding information from Congress about the Reagan administration’s ill-fated efforts to destabilize the Nicaraguan Sandinista government in Central America, known as the Iran-Contra affair. Abrams was later pardoned by President George H. W. Bush in December 1992.
As earlier reported on the Blotter on ABCNews.com , the United States has supported and encouraged an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, that has conducted deadly raids inside Iran from bases on the rugged Iran-Pakistan-Afghanistan "tri-border region.
Late 2007, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources.

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ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#18 Dec 8, 2012
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These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Iran’s suspected nuclear-weapons program.
The Administration may have been willing to rely on dissident organizations in Iran even when there was reason to believe that the groups had operated against American interests in the past. The use of Baluchi elements, for example, is problematic, Robert Baer, a former C.I.A. clandestine officer who worked for nearly two decades in South Asia and the Middle East, said.“The Baluchis are Sunni fundamentalists who hate the regime in Tehran, but you can also describe them as Al Qaeda.
One of the most active and violent anti-regime groups in Iran today is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People’s Resistance Movement, which describes itself as a resistance force fighting for the rights of Sunnis in Iran.“This is a vicious Salafi organization whose followers attended the same madrassas as the Taliban and Pakistani extremists,” Nasr told me.“They are suspected of having links to Al Qaeda and they are also thought to be tied to the drug culture.” The Jundallah took responsibility for the bombing of a busload of Revolutionary Guard soldiers in February, 2007. At least eleven Guard members were killed. According to Baer and to press reports, the Jundallah is among the groups in Iran that are benefitting from U.S. support.
The C.I.A. and Special Operations communities also have long-standing ties to two other dissident groups in Iran: the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, known in the West as the M.E.K., and a Kurdish separatist group, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, or PJAK.
The M.E.K. has been on the State Department’s terrorist list for more than a decade, yet in recent years the group has received arms and intelligence, directly or indirectly, from the United States. Some of the newly authorized covert funds, the Pentagon consultant told me, may well end up in M.E.K. coffers.“The new task force will work with the M.E.K. The Administration is desperate for results.” He added,“The M.E.K. has no C.P.A. auditing the books, and its leaders are thought to have been lining their pockets for years. If people only knew what the M.E.K. is getting, and how much is going to its bank accounts—and yet it is almost useless for the purposes the Administration intend.

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ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#19 Dec 8, 2012
Edward G. Rendell, the former Democratic governor of Pennsylvania and an outspoken supporter of the M.E.K
Mr. Rendell, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said he had given seven or eight speeches since July calling for the M.E.K. to be taken off the terrorist list and estimated that he had been paid a total of $150,000 or $160,000. Mr. Rendell said he had been told that his fees came from Iranian-American supporters of the M.E.K., not from the group itself.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has urged the group to move more than 3,000 supporters from Camp Ashraf, where they have lived for many years, to a site near Baghdad’s international airport, as a first step toward leaving Iraq. She said last month that the group’s cooperation in the move would be a factor in the State Department’s forthcoming decision on its request to have the terrorist label dropped.
Among former officials who have spoken for the M.E.K. at conferences are two former C.I.A. directors, R. James Woolsey and Porter J. Goss; a former F.B.I. director, Louis J. Freeh; a former attorney general, Michael B. Mukasey; President George W. Bush’s first homeland security secretary, Tom Ridge; President Obama’s first national security adviser, Gen. James L. Jones; as well as prominent Republicans, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, and Democrats like Howard Dean, a former governor of Vermont.
The Kurdish party, PJAK, which has also been reported to be covertly supported by the United States, has been operating against Iran from bases in northern Iraq for at least three years.(Iran, like Iraq and Turkey, has a Kurdish minority, and PJAK and other groups have sought self-rule in territory that is now part of each of those countries.) In recent weeks, according to Sam Gardiner, the military strategist, there has been a marked increase in the number of PJAK armed engagements with Iranians and terrorist attacks on Iranian targets. In early June, the news agency Fars reported that a dozen PJAK members and four Iranian border guards were killed in a clash near the Iraq border; a similar attack in May killed three Revolutionary Guards and nine PJAK fighters. PJAK has also subjected Turkey, a member of NATO, to repeated terrorist attacks, and reports of American support for the group have been a source of friction between the two governments.

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ocxz

Saint-denis, Reunion

#20 Dec 8, 2012
United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year 2007. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed.

2010 The United States is waging a sustained covert campaign of destabilisation against Iran, focusing on efforts to disrupt its nuclear program. Among a growing list of incidents are:
• Two nuclear physicists were killed and the head of the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran, Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani, was wounded after bombs were attached to their cars or detonated near them in 2010.
• The Stuxnet computer worm infected Iranian nuclear facilities in 2010, damaging computers used in industrial machinery; numerous reports suggest this was a US-Israeli attack to cripple Iranian nuclear centrifuges.
• On November 12, 2011, an explosion destroyed the Revolutionary Guard base at Bid Kaneh, killing 17, including a founder of Iran's missile programme.
• On November 28, 2011 an explosion in the western Iranian city of Isfahan badly damaged a uranium enrichment facility.
• On December 4 2011, Iran shot down a US RQ-170 Sentinel drone after it illegally crossed the eastern border. The “Beast of Kandahar,” which has a wingspan of about 65 feet and can fly at around 50,000 feet, was, according to the New York Times and the Washington Post, part of an increased US surveillance effort monitoring suspect nuclear sites. The Wall Street Journal stated that the US had considered sending covert missions into Iran to recover the drone or to blow it up with an air strike, but decided that this would be considered an act of war.
• On December 5, 2011 the US State Department’s arms adviser, Robert Einhorn, said:“Iran is violating international obligations and norms. It is becoming a pariah state… The timeline for its nuclear programme is beginning to get shorter, so it is important we take these strong steps on an urgent basis.”

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