2 rockets hit Lebanese Hezbollah stronghold

May 26, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WTEN-TV Albany

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Welcome home rockets. This is where you belong......
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Well thank u but that is May 19th when the regimes propaganda about Qusaiyr was at its peak no doubt there is heavy fighting but either side havent been able to take control of qusaiyr yet.
Al Qusayr has not fallen Yet.

The government control 60% including the hospital and surroundings. Rebels are controlling about 40%, both sides have taken huge losses.

The government troops and Hezbollah could just run in and rampage the whole city within some hours, BUT, they want to spare as many troops. That's why it's taking so long, as I said, SAA and Hezbollah dont want to loose to many soldiers so they are doing it effective in tactic to strike out them and starve them all out.

FSA is finished more or less. Now its up to the north, down to Dara'a and to the east for SAA to finally beat the most vicious threat of them all Jabhat-Al Nusra!

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Al Qusayr has not fallen Yet.
The government control 60% including the hospital and surroundings. Rebels are controlling about 40%, both sides have taken huge losses.
The government troops and Hezbollah could just run in and rampage the whole city within some hours, BUT, they want to spare as many troops. That's why it's taking so long, as I said, SAA and Hezbollah dont want to loose to many soldiers so they are doing it effective in tactic to strike out them and starve them all out.
FSA is finished more or less. Now its up to the north, down to Dara'a and to the east for SAA to finally beat the most vicious threat of them all Jabhat-Al Nusra!
So your a military analyst of sort? If u r then u dont even know the fact that the reason they havent taken qusair yet is because the rebels were backed by several other fighters who bought fresh ammunition. The reason Hezb and SAA r not goin in there is because since the start they have relied on their air and land vehicles to their work which is exactly why u c 9 times out of 10 in gun battles FSA has always had the upperhand. FSA is finished been hearing that since the revolt started u have just repeated it again nothing new. I suggest the next time u stop posting JUST for the SAKE of posting.
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So your a military analyst of sort? If u r then u dont even know the fact that the reason they havent taken qusair yet is because the rebels were backed by several other fighters who bought fresh ammunition. The reason Hezb and SAA r not goin in there is because since the start they have relied on their air and land vehicles to their work which is exactly why u c 9 times out of 10 in gun battles FSA has always had the upperhand. FSA is finished been hearing that since the revolt started u have just repeated it again nothing new. I suggest the next time u stop posting JUST for the SAKE of posting.
Well, I think Viking makes a valid point. I had the same thoughts brewing at the back of my mind, perhaps this has just turned into a classic siege where the FSA is being drained of food and resources whilst bombing them and eating away at their morale. The fact is 60-80% of Qusair has been taken so far, I know that your in a pure state of denial and won't accept that with one order the rest of the town could be stormed and over run, I truly do shed crocodile tears for you :(:(...... Look I'm not disputing that the "rebels", as you misguidedly call them, are well entrenched and putting up a fierce fight, so if Assad has this in the bag already why finish this battle with unnecessary losses when he could simply wait it out. This is a logical strategic decision and besides its not like the FSA have ammunition, food and medical supplies pouring into their positions... This is a done and dusted deal, I'm holding a celebratory party at my place soon, your invited.
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So your a military analyst of sort? If u r then u dont even know the fact that the reason they havent taken qusair yet is because the rebels were backed by several other fighters who bought fresh ammunition. The reason Hezb and SAA r not goin in there is because since the start they have relied on their air and land vehicles to their work which is exactly why u c 9 times out of 10 in gun battles FSA has always had the upperhand. FSA is finished been hearing that since the revolt started u have just repeated it again nothing new. I suggest the next time u stop posting JUST for the SAKE of posting.
Actually I have been in Kosovo for 2 years, as a U.N peacekeeper. So I could with 99% certainty say I know this type of conflict better than you. The siege of Kosovo from the Serbs is very close related to conflict in Syria according to the way both sides are fighting.

Heavy artillery bombard from distance supported sometimes from the air or with Scud-missiles, after that ground troops move in very short step at a time, resting, shooting - resting and so on.. It's not American style ALL-OUT war wich some belive. That's NOT the way you fight in Urban warfare, this is a step-by-step war. You take everyday and plan many small gains to accomplish, also, you have to make your enemy so isolated as possible, that means, cut off medicine and such, make sure they have no place to hide, surround them and starve them out and so on..

It's not only about the BANG BANG in the streets, this is a war of mentality aswell as a war with guns. Remember is BOTH, not only the guns. What surprises me, is that these FSA soldiers are skilled in a way that they can survive for so long isolated in one smaller area, we can see it in Qusayr, Aleppo, Dara'a and outskirts of Damascus.

My analysis is that this conflict will last 10 years at leat. Jabhat-Al Nusra is harder nut to crack, they are more religously motivated and their hatred is so strong agaisnt Shia that motivates them even more than FSA. They see the paradise through the barrel of your gun, ask the Russians if it was a funny playground in Chechnya.

I'm on Assad's side, no matter what, you ALWAYS have the Right to protect yourself from terrorism. He's a great man, a great commander, a great Leader he is indeed a good rolemodel to look at to learn to beat terrorists when the war sooner or later will reach heart of Europe.
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Well, I think Viking makes a valid point. I had the same thoughts brewing at the back of my mind, perhaps this has just turned into a classic siege where the FSA is being drained of food and resources whilst bombing them and eating away at their morale. The fact is 60-80% of Qusair has been taken so far, I know that your in a pure state of denial and won't accept that with one order the rest of the town could be stormed and over run, I truly do shed crocodile tears for you :(:(...... Look I'm not disputing that the "rebels", as you misguidedly call them, are well entrenched and putting up a fierce fight, so if Assad has this in the bag already why finish this battle with unnecessary losses when he could simply wait it out. This is a logical strategic decision and besides its not like the FSA have ammunition, food and medical supplies pouring into their positions... This is a done and dusted deal, I'm holding a celebratory party at my place soon, your invited.
Good, get at him!
He will soon leave this forum, he's a little lost.
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Hitty wrote:
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So your a military analyst of sort? If u r then u dont even know the fact that the reason they havent taken qusair yet is because the rebels were backed by several other fighters who bought fresh ammunition. The reason Hezb and SAA r not goin in there is because since the start they have relied on their air and land vehicles to their work which is exactly why u c 9 times out of 10 in gun battles FSA has always had the upperhand. FSA is finished been hearing that since the revolt started u have just repeated it again nothing new. I suggest the next time u stop posting JUST for the SAKE of posting.
Also, you are so wrong its laughable. The ONLY reason SAA and Hezbollah don't storm the city is to spare dead soldiers on their own side. They are not stupid, they can chill, and still crush them, they have no hurry. Why should they waist 100 extra dead soldiers, while they can just take a little more precaution instead?
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Also, you are so wrong its laughable. The ONLY reason SAA and Hezbollah don't storm the city is to spare dead soldiers on their own side. They are not stupid, they can chill, and still crush them, they have no hurry. Why should they waist 100 extra dead soldiers, while they can just take a little more precaution instead?
As I said, this is a simple logic being carried out. Those fighters would be valuable in battles to come, especially on the Al Nursa front.. These men have gained some experience now, so their deaths would be unfortunate and a tactical error..
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Good, get at him!
He will soon leave this forum, he's a little lost.
Yes, he is certainly lost. That's why I sing amazing grace for him every once and a while in the hope that he will see and covert over to SAA, and I don't mean South African Airways by that....

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Well, I think Viking makes a valid point. I had the same thoughts brewing at the back of my mind, perhaps this has just turned into a classic siege where the FSA is being drained of food and resources whilst bombing them and eating away at their morale. The fact is 60-80% of Qusair has been taken so far, I know that your in a pure state of denial and won't accept that with one order the rest of the town could be stormed and over run, I truly do shed crocodile tears for you :(:(...... Look I'm not disputing that the "rebels", as you misguidedly call them, are well entrenched and putting up a fierce fight, so if Assad has this in the bag already why finish this battle with unnecessary losses when he could simply wait it out. This is a logical strategic decision and besides its not like the FSA have ammunition, food and medical supplies pouring into their positions... This is a done and dusted deal, I'm holding a celebratory party at my place soon, your invited.
The real news out of these situations comes from people from both sides now a lot of might be propaganda i do understand that however I also now a lot about Arab armies and the way they carry themselves doesnt really matter in which part they r located. U r forgetting the part where the SAA havent been able to do much about rebels supply lines TO QUSAIR they have tried but failed over and over those figures ur quoting 60% 40% no one can verify that and I also not making any assumptions about the %held by each side. Usually in these types of sieges u have a WINNER and a LOSER and time will tell. I am in DENIAL? LOL ur the 1 who think its all honey in milk in the west ur the one who is throws ur support for Assad ur the one who thinks that WESTERN VALUES will help create a difference in the Mid-east I am in Denial?

Thanks for the invite I WUD LOVE TO COME hopes its BYO cos I just made a stew out of some followers of Eugene Terreblanche I have flavored them pretty well I hope u like it.:D
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May 27, 2013
 
None of that is taking the political situation into account.
Wars are fought for political gain.
And time is "a" wasting.
These idiots are going to be holding up this siege as a compelling reason why Assad should step down during a transition.
To me that is insanity .
Were fighting al-Qa'eda and listening to sermons from Mother Teresa , SNC , who impose themselves on us by the "base" manipulated emotion of a fabricated reality.
It doesn't get any dirtier than that.
There must be something that can be done .
Some toxic immune resistant brain spasm induced remedy for repetitive .
That's it I got it *-*! we scratch a record of conversation and blast it by amplification.
Then they will know how we feel listening to their stupid videos and die from embarrassment.

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Actually I have been in Kosovo for 2 years, as a U.N peacekeeper. So I could with 99% certainty say I know this type of conflict better than you. The siege of Kosovo from the Serbs is very close related to conflict in Syria according to the way both sides are fighting.
Heavy artillery bombard from distance supported sometimes from the air or with Scud-missiles, after that ground troops move in very short step at a time, resting, shooting - resting and so on.. It's not American style ALL-OUT war wich some belive. That's NOT the way you fight in Urban warfare, this is a step-by-step war. You take everyday and plan many small gains to accomplish, also, you have to make your enemy so isolated as possible, that means, cut off medicine and such, make sure they have no place to hide, surround them and starve them out and so on..
It's not only about the BANG BANG in the streets, this is a war of mentality aswell as a war with guns. Remember is BOTH, not only the guns. What surprises me, is that these FSA soldiers are skilled in a way that they can survive for so long isolated in one smaller area, we can see it in Qusayr, Aleppo, Dara'a and outskirts of Damascus.
My analysis is that this conflict will last 10 years at leat. Jabhat-Al Nusra is harder nut to crack, they are more religously motivated and their hatred is so strong agaisnt Shia that motivates them even more than FSA. They see the paradise through the barrel of your gun, ask the Russians.
UR A UN PEACEKEEPER HA! I knew there was something evil about u. Ur a so called peacekeeper and YE u dont realize that every situation in terms of seige type conflict is different because many different factors come in to play so plz dont tell me about ur expeiences in Kosovo UN goes in NOT TO KEEP PEACE but establish their own agendas ur to blind to see that since the UN was established all they have DONE is acknowledging that there is genocide apart from giving out some food rations. For starters we dont EVEN know if its a siege since SAA claimed it is doesnt make it a SIEGE but even if it is then tactically speaking the SAA hasnt still been able to cut rebel supply lines and that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE exactly why some experts dont even consider it a Seige but a way for the SAA to lower the morale.
Apart from the ways u have described about Urban Warfare I can add more cos REMEMBER ur JUST a so CALLED PEACEKEEPER and not a tactician of some sort in the ARMY. Defenders can move from one part of the city to another undetected using underground tunnels and spring ambushes.
Meanwhile, the attackers tend to become more EXPOSED than the defender as they must use the open streets more often, unfamiliar with the defenders' secret and hidden routes. During a house to house search the attacker is often also EXPOSED on the street. U may be right in saying they r moving slow and stuff but also the SAA has been unable to ALL supply lines to the rebels and they r MORE EXPOSED compared to the rebels so u cant really decide how the siege will end. Surviving is not a SECRET they have supply lines into Qusayr hence making it harder for the SAA to make gains which is EXACTLY why u c more bombardment and less Gun battles.
AND WOW JUST WOW a UN PEACEKEEPER AY? SUPPORTING ASSAD? I already knew UN PEACEKEEPERS did jack shit and know JACK SHIT u r fed whatever it is the UN wants to feed and then ur sent out ur nothing but a WALKING TALKING PROOF of that. He is a GREAT MAN? He including his father haven't left A SINGLE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE page unturned for DECADES and YET u support that ANIMAL of a THING he has only been a GREAT LEADER for the MINORITY and have USED whatever means necessary including genocides and tortures to keep the MAJORITY AT BAY. But oh that's rite ur PARANOIA about "Terrorists" reaching HEART of Europe is the REAL agenda behind the scenes u dont EVEN know the SYRIAN conflict and what it is about and ur coming here giving ur stupendous opinion
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The real news out of these situations comes from people from both sides now a lot of might be propaganda i do understand that however I also now a lot about Arab armies and the way they carry themselves doesnt really matter in which part they r located. U r forgetting the part where the SAA havent been able to do much about rebels supply lines TO QUSAIR they have tried but failed over and over those figures ur quoting 60% 40% no one can verify that and I also not making any assumptions about the %held by each side. Usually in these types of sieges u have a WINNER and a LOSER and time will tell. I am in DENIAL? LOL ur the 1 who think its all honey in milk in the west ur the one who is throws ur support for Assad ur the one who thinks that WESTERN VALUES will help create a difference in the Mid-east I am in Denial?
Thanks for the invite I WUD LOVE TO COME hopes its BYO cos I just made a stew out of some followers of Eugene Terreblanche I have flavored them pretty well I hope u like it.:D
Rest assured that the percentage is quite high for Assad and yes time will tell. I never stated that the West is the land of milk and honey, if anything that milk turned a long time ago. Have you forgotten my other posts about the immorality and greed of the West and how its crumbling. I'm not in the mood for repeating my self, but I do concur with you in the fact that NWO is very real and manipulating events and destroying lives, so I'm not all hill billy racist. Its pure Satan worship and the ushering in of the Anti-Christ by the elitist governments and shadow organizations, they ultimately want to control all aspects of life and shore up all the wealth and resources for themselves. This is seen in them trying to topple Assad and break the back of an outspoken Iran, so yes democracy's days are numbered and the implementation of something worse then fascism and communism combined will come into being..

Good, I'm actually english-South African and detest the red necked AWB. I'll join you in eating them, I'm just apprehensive about you coming over now, see there will be innocent women and children there...
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Al Qusayr has not fallen Yet.
The government control 60% including the hospital and surroundings. Rebels are controlling about 40%, both sides have taken huge losses.
The government troops and Hezbollah could just run in and rampage the whole city within some hours, BUT, they want to spare as many troops. That's why it's taking so long, as I said, SAA and Hezbollah dont want to loose to many soldiers so they are doing it effective in tactic to strike out them and starve them all out.
FSA is finished more or less. Now its up to the north, down to Dara'a and to the east for SAA to finally beat the most vicious threat of them all Jabhat-Al Nusra!
Problem with that type of Battle the ruins become a Fortress,in WW2 the Allies found that out with the Battle for Monte Casino where German Airborne forces held out for a long time turning the Monastery ruins into a Fort,i just hope the SAA have that border Town sealed up to prevent those Rats escaping to Lebanon where i believe many have come from.I would go further and say the Syrians should go back into that Northern area of Lebanon and finish those Wahabis off.
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May 27, 2013
 
Bashar al-Assad is a Very Great man who knew who he was fighting long before many of his countrymen worked it out.
Many Sunni believed the pendulum swings their way and stays there.
Why would that be so?.
The substance of judgement is the fate of on going reasoned expression.
Why should their reasoned emotion be the rational of ---- say---- a porn star.
Why the hell would Allah want a porn star in Paradise .
He doesn't .
That's not the purpose of the Chosen
"force conversion" .
Everybody knows that is what they are now ,----* except for Hitty.
No ! the purpose of the Chosen is to lead His Ordination (clergy) supernaturally.
They got it completely arse about face.
Bashar may not have understood that exactly . In fact he didn't.
But he always knew they were no good.
Now everybody knows that too.
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UR A UN PEACEKEEPER HA! I knew there was something evil about u. Ur a so called peacekeeper and YE u dont realize that every situation in terms of seige type conflict is different because many different factors come in to play so plz dont tell me about ur expeiences in Kosovo UN goes in NOT TO KEEP PEACE but establish their own agendas ur to blind to see that since the UN was established all they have DONE is acknowledging that there is genocide apart from giving out some food rations. For starters we dont EVEN know if its a siege since SAA claimed it is doesnt make it a SIEGE but even if it is then tactically speaking the SAA hasnt still been able to cut rebel supply lines and that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE exactly why some experts dont even consider it a Seige but a way for the SAA to lower the morale.
Apart from the ways u have described about Urban Warfare I can add more cos REMEMBER ur JUST a so CALLED PEACEKEEPER and not a tactician of some sort in the ARMY. Defenders can move from one part of the city to another undetected using underground tunnels and spring ambushes.
Meanwhile, the attackers tend to become more EXPOSED than the defender as they must use the open streets more often, unfamiliar with the defenders' secret and hidden routes. During a house to house search the attacker is often also EXPOSED on the street. U may be right in saying they r moving slow and stuff but also the SAA has been unable to ALL supply lines to the rebels and they r MORE EXPOSED compared to the rebels so u cant really decide how the siege will end. Surviving is not a SECRET they have supply lines into Qusayr hence making it harder for the SAA to make gains which is EXACTLY why u c more bombardment and less Gun battles.
AND WOW JUST WOW a UN PEACEKEEPER AY? SUPPORTING ASSAD? I already knew UN PEACEKEEPERS did jack shit and know JACK SHIT u r fed whatever it is the UN wants to feed and then ur sent out ur nothing but a WALKING TALKING PROOF of that. He is a GREAT MAN? He including his father haven't left A SINGLE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE page unturned for DECADES and YET u support that ANIMAL of a THING he has only been a GREAT LEADER for the MINORITY and have USED whatever means necessary including genocides and tortures to keep the MAJORITY AT BAY. But oh that's rite ur PARANOIA about "Terrorists" reaching HEART of Europe is the REAL agenda behind the scenes u dont EVEN know the SYRIAN conflict and what it is about and ur coming here giving ur stupendous opinion
I happen to agree with you on some points, the UN along with its "peacekeeping" forces and other branches are impotent and ineffective to say the least. Yes genocides play out in full and they just sit back idly, should I point out to the Zimbabwian farmers as an example. Those people weren't forcibly moved but butchered and the women were raped. Entire families were killed execution style for no reason at all, but the UN just watched. The West was no where to be found because they had no vested interests there, The Un is the assembly of Satan which has come into being to form the NWO and ultimately be lead by the Anti-Christ himself.

I'm sure Viking had good reasons for joining and it provided adventures, he's not to blame or be villainised.
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Problem with that type of Battle the ruins become a Fortress,in WW2 the Allies found that out with the Battle for Monte Casino where German Airborne forces held out for a long time turning the Monastery ruins into a Fort,i just hope the SAA have that border Town sealed up to prevent those Rats escaping to Lebanon where i believe many have come from.I would go further and say the Syrians should go back into that Northern area of Lebanon and finish those Wahabis off.
Even if the rebels get rubble fortresses they'll still be short of ammo, medical supplies and eventually starve, its a lose lose situation in the end.. When these terrorist are too weak to hold their guns and revert to cannibalism then the games may commence. Assad can have all the rat's heads especially delivered to their families and torch the remaining body parts...
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May 27, 2013
 
Amongst all the Shabiha in this post. Falcon is the most miserable. I understand this glorious revolution of the people has eaten your heart, most terrible you lost a husband. You ought to be the one to be preaching peace. But you just want to put of your cohorts in the same predicament . widows. Widows and more widows.
While the boss Assad is enjoying great sex, you are slowly developing chronic diseases. As an advice leave the forum, Before you shrink completely.
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Jude wrote:
Amongst all the Shabiha in this post. Falcon is the most miserable. I understand this glorious revolution of the people has eaten your heart, most terrible you lost a husband. You ought to be the one to be preaching peace. But you just want to put of your cohorts in the same predicament . widows. Widows and more widows.
While the boss Assad is enjoying great sex, you are slowly developing chronic diseases. As an advice leave the forum, Before you shrink completely.
I hope thi bastard gets dealt with.
Morocon Terror Chief captured in Syrian Border Town,shabiha this and Shabiha that is all we hear from you,its not clear they even exist.http://www.presstv.com/d etail/2013/05/27/305750/syria- arrests-moroccan-terrorist-lea der/
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http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/05/27/3057... the link,Morocon Terrorist Rat captured.

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