The rise of Turkey in the Balkans

Jul 11, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: SETimes news

Turkey has played a moderator role between Serbia and the tripartite BiH presidency.

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Where is my Babe?

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BABE!!!!

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#137381
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dont think about turks that much fake greex.turkey has been fighting with pkk terrorism for 30 years.

it will continue the struggle if its needed.dont get too excited and have wet dreams.

let these fake greex cry as much as they want behind their computers.

their bankrupted hell hole banana republic country fake g*yreece has come to an end.

their pathologic obsession over turks causes a delirium effect on these fake greex.

its understandable, since their historical butt pain and being the subjects of turks for 500 years is the source of their primitive and wild behaviour.

maybe its because fake greex love turks deep inside since they have turkish blood in their veins too.

not only turks, slavs and albanians contributed to the creation of modern fake greex population.

let these fake greex still think and believe they are ancient.

you can call fake g*yreece as the sp3rm bucket of southern europe also.

I would be confused and angry too if I was a history thief, wanna be na-zi fake greex with %45 sub saharan DNA and a fabricated identity based on orthodoxy which was invented only in 18th century.

now stop worrying about turks and go start waiting in front of german embassy.

maybe aunty merkel will send you a few extra euros to buy bread and fill your empty stomach.that will help you to take care of the smell of your breath caused by hunger.
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Aristiffonis is a fckng embarrassment...not only to his people....but to all mammals. What a fckgng f/ag.
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" The real problem between Greece and Turkey is Greece not giving up its Megali idea which is, the recovery of the territories occupied by the Byzantine Empire, which finally fell to the Turks in 1453.

All the many conflicts between Greece and Turkey over the past two centuries have been initiated by Greece.

Bloody Turkish history is clearly wrong.The Ottomans had one of the most tolerant policies towards non-Turks of any empire of its day.The three communities of Jews, Greeks and Armenians were virtually autonomous within the empire. "

(Australia's former ambassador to Ankara,PF Peters, 1994)

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" If any genocide or ethnic cleansing has taken place in Cyprus, this has always been carried out by the Greeks.

The abortive coup of 1974, organized by EOKA and Greek military junta in Athens, aimed at elimination of the Turkish Cypriots from the Island.

Turkey intervened to protect them and prevent Enosis.Since that date, the island has been peaceful and free of bloodshed.

Turkey has consistently supported a fair and reasonable settlement on Cyprus, but one that gives the Turkish Cypriots a secure future and equal political and social status with the Greek Cypriots. "

(Australia's former ambassador to Ankara, PF Peters, 1994)
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On Turks and Truth

Turks lied to themselves about Greeks bombing and burning down mosques on Cyprus. Turks lied to themselves about Greeks assassinating Turks on Cyprus. Turks lied to themselves about Greeks attacking Ataturk’s house in Salonica. Turks lied to themselves about Greeks then Armenians then Greeks again burning down Smyrna. All to justify their evil ends.

“We just learned that our officers bombed mosques in Cyprus to 'raise resistance' against 'enemies without.' We now wonder whether they used similar techniques also against 'enemies within'?

Last week, Sabri Yirmibesoglu, a retired Turkish general, said something that shocked the nation. During an interview by Haberturk, a popular news channel, he said that the Turkish military had bombed mosques in Cyprus in the past and put the blame on the Greeks.“Such attacks and sabotages on sacred values are done and portrayed as if the enemy did them,” he explained.“The purpose is to raise the resistance of the people.””(Source; Hurriyet Daily News,“Why the Turkish Military Bombed Mosques in Cyprus”)

“A few weeks later, though, a local newspaper run by two Cypriot Turks, Ahmet Muzaffer Gurkan, 38, and Ayhan Hikmet, 35, wrote that the bombings had not been done by Greeks at all. And, lo and behold, these two men were both assassinated on that very same night, on April 23, 1962.(Perhaps we need another talkative ex-general to fully shed light on that part of the story.”(Source: Hurriyet et al)
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx...

“The bombing of two mosques in the Turkish part of Cyprus in 1962 might have been carried out by Turkish Armed Forces, revealed a retired general who inadvertently confessed to ordering the burning of a mosque as part of psychological warfare operations in 1974.”(Source: Today’s Zaman,“Turkey Remembers Mosque Bombings After General’s Confession”)
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-222633-turkey...

“I want the steps of friendship taken between Greece and Turkey to be long term and to improve much further. To achieve this, I think the common history of the two nations needs to be rewritten. I would like to make a call to everyone at this point. Come, let us rewrite the common history of Turkey and Greece by liberating it from the effects of nationalist nonsense. As a small supplement to this, I would like to point out an article written by Emre Akoz, a valuable writer in the Turkish press, in the Sabah daily’s April 8, 2010, edition. In the article below, Akoz tracks the real story behind the “Great fire of Izmir.” I am hopeful that these efforts will go beyond the limits of newspaper columns and evolve into writing an honest common history:

“Confessions of a Kemalist: Why were we burning down Izmir?

One of the books that best explains Ataturk is without a doubt ‘Cankaya’ by Falih Rifki Atay, who is a trueborn Kemalist.”(Source: Today’s Zaman,“Who Burned Down Izmir?”)
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-210540-w...

“….. an agent of the Turkish secret service threw a bomb into the house where Ataturk was born in the Greek city of Salonika.”(Source: Pamuk, O, Istanbul et al)

Turks and truth have a long history of estrangement. That there was no genocide is but one lie. Indeed, Turks lie to themselves about everything. But the revelations starting to come out of Turkey are truly illuminating.

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during the bloody christmas of 1963 in cyprus, greek EOKA terrorists made a raid to turkish military doctor lt. nihat ilhan's house in nicosia and murdered his wife and 3 children in their bathroom where they took shelter.

his wife muruvvet (37), his children murat (6), kudsi (4) and just 6 months old hakan was brutaly murdered by automatic gun fire.

their corpses were found in the bathtub.today, the house where the massacre happened is a "museum of greek barbarism"

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" As Greece's fortune reversed and their army was in retreat, they carried out their well known scorched earth policy (fire starting),resulting with the fire of Izmir (symirna) that the Turks illogically still get the blamed for.

Terrible as it was, the destruction of houses and buildings did not have the long lasting effect of the plunder and destruction of livestock."

(Justing McCarthy, Page 294, Death and Exile)

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-From British Foreign Policy Documents-

* Page 86, 12nd of July, 1919, Greeks spilled blood for nothing in Aydin province.

* Page 138, Greeks are making a massacre in Izmir.

* Page 723, Document Number 478, 9th of August, 1919

According to the reports given by Europeans, Greeks killed 20.000 Turks at first step in Izmir.They turned the entire region to ruins.They burned the villages, killed women and children and raped the women.

* Page 745, Document Number 500-501, 31st of August, 1919 (Mr.Balfour to Lord Curzon)

The English residents of Izmir said the Greek administration of Izmir is very bad and cruel.The reason of this is Greeks have a very bad nature in creation.
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chucky- wrote:
during the bloody christmas of 1963 in cyprus, greek EOKA terrorists made a raid to turkish military doctor lt. nihat ilhan's house in nicosia and murdered his wife and 3 children in their bathroom where they took shelter.
his wife muruvvet (37), his children murat (6), kudsi (4) and just 6 months old hakan was brutaly murdered by automatic gun fire.
their corpses were found in the bathtub.today, the house where the massacre happened is a "museum of greek barbarism"
http://i.imgur.com/XeeDCxQ.gif
From a recent article published in Today’s Zaman:

“After many years, I started to ponder the country’s matters and issues, and I came to realize that the problem was a “social earthquake” that was far bigger than I as a kid could perceive. IF THE PRE-1915 DEMOGRAPHIC PERCENTAGES STILL APPLIED TO TODAY’S TURKEY, THERE WOULD BE 18 MILLION NON-MUSLIMS LIVING IN THE COUNTRY. JUST TRY TO VISUALIZE 18 MILLION NON-MUSLIMS, CONSISTING MAINLY OF GREEKS, ARMENIANS AND JEWS, LIVING IN TURKEY. What sort of Turkey would it be?”(Source: Today’s Zaman,“Istanbul and Constantinople”, Cengiz, O K, 15/11/2012)

It is a bit rich for pseudo-Turks to be lecturing others on human rights for as Cengiz alludes to the Turks committed one of the crimes of the century (the 1900s), if not all time. Now that’s what I call tolerance!

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-298301-i...
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chucky- wrote:
" As Greece's fortune reversed and their army was in retreat, they carried out their well known scorched earth policy (fire starting),resulting with the fire of Izmir (symirna) that the Turks illogically still get the blamed for.
Terrible as it was, the destruction of houses and buildings did not have the long lasting effect of the plunder and destruction of livestock."
(Justing McCarthy, Page 294, Death and Exile)
The extracts below are from articles written by Colin Tatz, visiting fellow in the College of Arts and Social Sciences, Australian National University and a Genocide Scholar and published in the Melbourne newspaper ‘The Age’ in 2010. These extracts tell us all about Turkey.
“The ultimate negation is, of course, the Turkish denial of its genocidal campaigns against Armenians, Pontian Greeks and Christian Assyrians between 1915 and 1922. There is no admission, no accountability, no responsibility, no apology, no restitution, no reparation and no justice. There is only a paranoid denialism and the counter-claim that more Turks than Armenians died in a "civil war": Turks were simply and only defending themselves against a traitorous and fifth-columnist minority who were aiding their enemies. Turkey is totally dedicated, at home and abroad, to having every hint or mention of an Armenian genocide contradicted, countered, explained, justified, mitigated, rationalised, relativised, removed or trivialised. The entire apparatus of the Turkish state is tuned to denial, with officers appointed abroad for that purpose.”
“Turkey is totally dedicated, at home and abroad, to having every hint or mention of an Armenian genocide contradicted, countered, explained, justified, mitigated, rationalised, relativised, removed or trivialised. The entire apparatus of the Turkish state is tuned to denial, with officers appointed abroad for that purpose. Their actions are spectacular, often bizarre, and without distinction between the serious and the silly, including: pressures to dilute or even remove any mention of the genocide in the Armenian entry in the Encyclopaedia Britannica; threats to sever diplomatic relations with France over the latter's parliamentary declaration that there was such a genocide; replacing the Turkish Prime Minister's Renault with an inferior Russian limo; Sydney Turks demanding that the broadcaster SBS pulp its 25th anniversary history for twice making passing reference to an event they claim "never happened"; and, more recently, frenetic Turkish efforts to stop a memorial to the dead Assyrians in the western Sydney district of Fairfield.”
No one is fooled (except those who choose to be fooled) as to Turkey’s denialist extremism. The purchase of Western “scholars” is but one manifestation of that denialist mania. Justin McCarthy is but one of the purchased scholars. There are Turks who choose to go beyond the official and perhaps expected paradigm. You would know the names of some of these. Those Turks who live in the diaspora have no excuses. Having regard to the behaviour of the Turkish government, one might say they have a special obligation here. In relation to the particular scholar in question, he is well known and smarter people than me have shown him up for what he is. You can web search this aspect if you’re interested.

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Faith wrote:
Aristiffonis is a fckng embarrassment...not only to his people....but to all mammals. What a fckgng f/ag.
LOL!
Aristofanis is a man that every young woman likes to have,

You are a man’s discard

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according to fake greex paranoid mentality, when someone talks in favor of the turks and turkish history, they get labelled as "paid employee of turkish goverment" LoL.

if someone wants to see paid history employees, take a look at peter balakian, taner akcam and robert fisk.

they are on the payroll of armenian diaspora LoL.relax fake greex, real history and archive documents prove clearly the greex and armenian barbarism and who committed the real genocides.
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chucky- wrote:
according to fake greex paranoid mentality, when someone talks in favor of the turks and turkish history, they get labelled as "paid employee of turkish goverment" LoL.
if someone wants to see paid history employees, take a look at peter balakian, taner akcam and robert fisk.
they are on the payroll of armenian diaspora LoL.relax fake greex, real history and archive documents prove clearly the greex and armenian barbarism and who committed the real genocides.
Oh really. All but one is a Turkish source. Idiot!

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" I feel like more than a -friend- to the Armenian-Australian community, we are family."

Prof. Colin Tatz, "genocide scholar", Australian National University, November 2008, upon receiving ANC (armenian national committee's Armenian Friendship Award.

how much did the armenian diaspora pay him to become their friend I wonder LoL.

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We congratulate Prof. Tatz.He has been instrumental in the "advancement of the Armenian cause" in Australia, and our community’s distinguished "partnership" with him is deserving of this and many honours.

(Mr. Varant Meguerditchian, Armenian National Committee)

advancement of armenian cause in australia aka more more propaganda and lies.

partnership aka we pay, you fabricate.

such "independent" academic scholarship right there LoL.

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