Turks in Hatay province rally against Syrian refugees

Sep 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News Journal

Thousands of demonstrators rallying against Turkey's support for Syrian rebels clashed with riot police Sunday in the southern city of Antakya.

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Dander

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Hatay is part of the ongoing demographics war initiated by the sunni turks which eclipsed in early 20th century.
Mr Erdogan introduced this programme yesterday in Bosnia by advising them to increase their birth rate by each family producing minimum 5 children.
The muslim Turk is indeed openly meddling with the interior affairs of other nations.
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Yeah they are rallying, because they know very well that Hatay was ripped off from Syria in the first place by paying off the French.

Those "Syrian refugees" are actually going back home. The Turkish government should next send all the Turks it brought into Hatay back home too, around the territories around Ankara.
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Yeah they are rallying, because they know very well that Hatay was ripped off from Syria in the first place by paying off the French.
Those "Syrian refugees" are actually going back home. The Turkish government should next send all the Turks it brought into Hatay back home too, around the territories around Ankara.
Completely BS!

Hatay has a large population of Assad’s sect the Allewites (Shia) and the refugees are mainly Sunni ... it is normal that the Turkish Allewites have at least a sympathy for Assad .....

Much more, not the Turks are playing the sectarian card, it is Assad and his Allewites which attack everything what is None-Allewite because they never have and now anyway do not trust the Sunni and see them as their enemies .....

In simple terms democracy means that the majority decides .... thus it can't be expected that the minority rules over the majority……. and Assad had the possibility to start a reformation process (Turkey offered Assad all her support for this step) which perhaps would have saved his seat, however when he started killing peacefully demonstrating people the situation changed!

Assad and his regime are the bad guys - certainly not Turkey !

Cheers,

PS: BTW, regarding your BS claims in your post:

Before Hatay became part of Turkey already had a very large Turkish population.

If you would be aware of the history then you should know that when France's mandate for Syria expired the population of Hatay declared their independence in 1938 as a Turkish state (State of Hatay or aka Republic of Hatay) with the support of France, United Kingdome, Turkey, Belgium & the Netherlands and recognized by the League of Nations (predecessor of the United Nations) with Turkish as the principle language.

In July the parliament of the Republic of Hatay decided to join the Republic of Turkey.
Turkey did not annex Hatay by force as you uninformed idiot claim!!!

More infor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatay_State
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The death squads and concentration camps of history were never staffed by rebels and dissidents. They were were run by those who followed the rules.
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CRN wrote:
The death squads and concentration camps of history were never staffed by rebels and dissidents. They were were run by those who followed the rules.
I would add: "...who followed orders without questioning .."
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TRUTHlover wrote:
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I would add: "...who followed orders without questioning .."
Cheers,
refugee camps will turn out to be death camps.

UN is good at bad planning.
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Dr Blogger reports on reported news;

Surat Al Imraan

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In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord;

They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah: And with regard to those left behind, who have not yet joined them (in their bliss), the (Martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve.
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"For thou; the Muslims community Witnessed the unwavering withstand for the strive of thee for the cause of Allah almighty and for the Ummah. "With permission of Allah almighty; the Ummah shall retaliate for Thou; Peace be upon the soul of thee, the Libyan, the Grandson of the beloved the companions.

After long time journey in the battle's field combating the evil Zionism-Nazis of the age. After long time of engagement of the devoted strive for heroic epics on the evil of the age. And after long time in the field of Noble Islamic science of the Noble Quran and the Noble Sunnah.

The final walk as final reward had been made "By the Lord of the heavens and the earth; for the braves who walked into the road that Allah almighty rewards the paradise for.
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Dr Blogger reports on reported news;

Surat Al-Haj

http://quran.com/22

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;

(They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,-(for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might,(able to enforce His Will).

They are) those who, if We establish them in the land, establish regular prayer and give regular charity, enjoin the right and forbid wrong: with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs.

http://archive.org/details/Allah_Motm_Norh
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Dr Blogger reports on reported news;
Surat Al-Haj
http://quran.com/22
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;
(They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,-(for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might,(able to enforce His Will).
They are) those who, if We establish them in the land, establish regular prayer and give regular charity, enjoin the right and forbid wrong: with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs.
http://archive.org/details/Allah_Motm_Norh
dont you have your own words?
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dont you have your own words?
Dr Blogger doesn't has own word. He is a delivery for facts.
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Dr Blogger doesn't has own word. He is a delivery for facts.
also for farths?
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Dr Blogger reports on reported news;

"With the permission of Allah almighty, the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the uprising and the devoted strive in the Syria on the tyrannical regime will prevail and all out victory is the Reward and is the Grace from Allah almighty for the truthful believers.

The tremendously decisive withstand of the uprising and the devoted strive in the Syria, on the tyrannical regime, has proven the fact whereas a nation decides to live free. A nation's decisive withstand that will not be extorted. And proving that the uprising and the devoted strive of Muslims community for the freedom and prosperity will prevail.

The tremendously decisive withstand is a truthful message, of decisive and invincible determination, for the free world that the road and the ways for the freedom is worth the struggle and is worth the devoted strive.

The Syrian's uprising is one of the unique uprising and devoted strive that has unique similarity with the devoted strive in the Iraq and with other uprising nations as well.

The Muslims Syrian are more than qualified to implement and to maintain the implementation of the system that to be established in accordance with Noble Qu'ran and the Noble Sunnah. The belief and the faith that the the Syrian people believe in. As best choice that the Syrian people have made upon the outcome of the uprising.

The fact that is acknowledged and that has been well recognized as well. Syria and Iraq are twin brothers and their father is the Islam. The total integration of Syria with the State of the Islam, in the land of two rivers, is inevitable and is essential by the means of unity under the banner of the Islamic-monotheism and by the means of the removal of the illegitimate borders.
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Dr Blogger wrote:
Dr Blogger reports on reported news;
"With the permission of Allah almighty, the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the uprising and the devoted strive in the Syria on the tyrannical regime will prevail and all out victory is the Reward and is the Grace from Allah almighty for the truthful believers.
The tremendously decisive withstand of the uprising and the devoted strive in the Syria, on the tyrannical regime, has proven the fact whereas a nation decides to live free. A nation's decisive withstand that will not be extorted. And proving that the uprising and the devoted strive of Muslims community for the freedom and prosperity will prevail.
The tremendously decisive withstand is a truthful message, of decisive and invincible determination, for the free world that the road and the ways for the freedom is worth the struggle and is worth the devoted strive.
The Syrian's uprising is one of the unique uprising and devoted strive that has unique similarity with the devoted strive in the Iraq and with other uprising nations as well.
The Muslims Syrian are more than qualified to implement and to maintain the implementation of the system that to be established in accordance with Noble Qu'ran and the Noble Sunnah. The belief and the faith that the the Syrian people believe in. As best choice that the Syrian people have made upon the outcome of the uprising.
The fact that is acknowledged and that has been well recognized as well. Syria and Iraq are twin brothers and their father is the Islam. The total integration of Syria with the State of the Islam, in the land of two rivers, is inevitable and is essential by the means of unity under the banner of the Islamic-monotheism and by the means of the removal of the illegitimate borders.
who taught you all that wisdom?
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who taught you all that wisdom?
Ever since Dr Blogger was one year old. Are you happy now ?
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Ever since Dr Blogger was one year old. Are you happy now ?
hence after, you dont have your own words?
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Dr Blogger reports on reported news;
"With the permission of Allah almighty, the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the uprising and the devoted strive in the Syria on the tyrannical regime will prevail and all out victory is the Reward and is the Grace from Allah almighty for the truthful believers.
The tremendously decisive withstand of the uprising and the devoted strive in the Syria, on the tyrannical regime, has proven the fact whereas a nation decides to live free. A nation's decisive withstand that will not be extorted. And proving that the uprising and the devoted strive of Muslims community for the freedom and prosperity will prevail.
The tremendously decisive withstand is a truthful message, of decisive and invincible determination, for the free world that the road and the ways for the freedom is worth the struggle and is worth the devoted strive.
The Syrian's uprising is one of the unique uprising and devoted strive that has unique similarity with the devoted strive in the Iraq and with other uprising nations as well.
The Muslims Syrian are more than qualified to implement and to maintain the implementation of the system that to be established in accordance with Noble Qu'ran and the Noble Sunnah. The belief and the faith that the the Syrian people believe in. As best choice that the Syrian people have made upon the outcome of the uprising.
The fact that is acknowledged and that has been well recognized as well. Syria and Iraq are twin brothers and their father is the Islam. The total integration of Syria with the State of the Islam, in the land of two rivers, is inevitable and is essential by the means of unity under the banner of the Islamic-monotheism and by the means of the removal of the illegitimate borders.
Dr Blogger, although on the first view I would not argue against you, nonetheless you give the impression of wanting a state based on Wahabi or Jafari Sharia law which I am against .....

I would accept legislation based on religious believes if it is applied as it was during the Ottoman regime, what means tolerance to other religious communities (which will have their local legislation according their own believes etc...)....

I have sincere problems with such an approach although I certainly believe the Almighty (Allah - God) is with the rightful....

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Dr Blogger, although on the first view I would not argue against you, nonetheless you give the impression of wanting a state based on Wahabi or Jafari Sharia law which I am against .....

I would accept legislation based on religious believes if it is applied as it was during the Ottoman regime, what means tolerance to other religious communities (which will have their local legislation according their own believes etc...)....
I have sincere problems with such an approach although I certainly believe the Almighty (Allah - God) is with the rightful....
Cheers,
Dr of Wisdom blogger reports on reported news;

Surat Al-Haj

http://quran.com/22

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;

(They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,-(for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might,(able to enforce His Will).

They are) those who, if We establish them in the land, establish regular prayer and give regular charity, enjoin the right and forbid wrong: with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs.
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The Islamic State, the caliphate, is on the basis of the Noble Qu'ran and the Noble Sunnah.

"With the permission of Allah almighty; the coming the caliphate State shall be resemble to the caliphate State of Omer Bin Abid AL-Aziz "The compassion of Allah almighty be upon him;

The Islam is the religion of life, tolerance, love, peace and prosperity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Dr of Wisdom wrote:
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Dr of Wisdom blogger reports on reported news;
Surat Al-Haj
http://quran.com/22
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;
(They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,-(for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might,(able to enforce His Will).
They are) those who, if We establish them in the land, establish regular prayer and give regular charity, enjoin the right and forbid wrong: with Allah rests the end (and decision) of (all) affairs.
..........
The Islamic State, the caliphate, is on the basis of the Noble Qu'ran and the Noble Sunnah.
"With the permission of Allah almighty; the coming the caliphate State shall be resemble to the caliphate State of Omer Bin Abid AL-Aziz "The compassion of Allah almighty be upon him;
The Islam is the religion of life, tolerance, love, peace and prosperity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I watched the clip .... admit never heard of this scholar, but I liked what and how he said!

Coming back to yours and mine previous posts ..... with Wahabi I referred to the Islam propaganda by the Saudis and with Jafari I referred to the Islam propaganda by Iran (Shia).....

To any of these types of states I could not agree too.

But once again, if it would be identical or at least very similar in construction as were the Ottoman legislation this would be a different matter ...

For people which do not know it .... the Ottoman legislation was not purely based on Hanefi Sharia law as many think ..... the Sharia law (when it was applied) was applied according to the local Islamic jurisprudence (Hanefi, Maliki, Shafi'a & Hanbali)...

The Hanefi generally recognized as the most tolerant in application towards other faiths .... furthermore the Ottomans combined Islamic laws with their original Turkic legislation which they brought with them from Central-Asia .... Thus it was a mixture which was easy to understand and to follow by all citizens ... undifferentiating if they were Muslims or Non-Muslims ...

Hope I was able of clarifying my position in a better way.
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I watched the clip .... admit never heard of this scholar, but I liked what and how he said!

Coming back to yours and mine previous posts ..... with Wahabi I referred to the Islam propaganda by the Saudis and with Jafari I referred to the Islam propaganda by Iran (Shia).....
To any of these types of states I could not agree too.
Neither Saudis Royal family nor Iranian Safavid's Majoos are based on the Islam.

The Saudi royal family is one of the most deviant and corrupted ruling regime. While, Iranian Safavid's Majoos is involved in countless crimes on the Muslims community.

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Neither Saudis Royal family nor Iranian Safavid's Majoos are based on the Islam.
The Saudi royal family is one of the most deviant and corrupted ruling regime. While, Iranian Safavid's Majoos is involved in countless crimes on the Muslims community.
those guys know much more than you can imagine about islam.

and why saudies are not allowing any archaeological excavations?

beside destroying anything above the ground.

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