Report: US Strikes on Iran Would Risk Major War

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U.S. military strikes on Iran would shake the regime's political control and damage its ability to launch counterstrikes, but the Iranians probably would manage to retaliate, directly and through surrogates, in ways that risked igniting all-out war in the Middle East, according to an assessment of an attack's costs and benefits. Full Story
Gray

Powhatan, VA

#155 Sep 22, 2012
NEW 9/11 FINDINGS:

Which American "ally" has the most sophisticated Nuclear Technology...

And....

The Obsession to deceive Americans to Die for their "Greater Israel"

“911 Dust by Jeff Prager – Final Version”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/21/911-d...

EXCERPT “Some First Responders have succumbed to not one, not two, but in some cases three rare cancers.
The cancer incidence among Ground Zero First Responders, while un-addressed in the mainstream media, is epidemic.

The incidence of Thyroid cancer, brain cancer, pancreatic cancer and many other cancers is significantly elevated among Ground Zero First Responders.

More profound is that never have we seen rapid onset cancers in asbestos workers or other industrial workers exposed to the wide variety of carcinogens found in the Ground Zero dust (see USGS report #01-0429 – Chemistry Table 1)[6]

We have only seen rapid onset cancers in those people exposed to radiation at Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Chernobyl.[7]

It should be noted that cancers were just recently covered by the US government for Ground Zero First Responders.”CONTINUED

Why Use Nuclear Weapons?
Nuclear weapons, 4th generation or even more advanced weapons, are ideal because they are extremely small with very predictable profiles.

After decades of underground nuclear testing this science has been refined to an extraordinary level of competence.

With nano-technology the various control systems necessary to a nuclear device are infinitesimally smaller than those we’re familiar with from the 1960s.

Advanced nuclear grenades, nuclear weapons the size of apples or grapefruits as Dr. Busby states, are the most secretive technological advancement in real world weapons systems. Nuclear devices as described herein were the only possible way to destroy the buildings without having enormous chunks of building debris fly all over NYC and smash down on dozens of surrounding buildings.

Theses enormous structures had to be turned to dust. Destruction was kept to a minimum although overall it was still quite devastating. It could have been monumentally worse had standard explosives been used:

Nuclear energy is the only type of demolition that carries the total energy budget required to turn 100s of 1000s of tons of material to micron sized very fine particles.

While much of the towers were recovered, a substantial portion of the buildings can be seen in dozens of images of both dense pyroclastic clouds emanating from Ground Zero and spreading across the city and the enormous atmospheric clouds swept across the state and out to sea by the prevailing winds." CONTINUED

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#156 Sep 22, 2012
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>
....AND THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT!
What you chose to believe is exactly the treasonous, deliberate, Zionist Lies you're programmed to chant.
...with NO DOCUMENTED FACTS to back them up:
Here's your chance to win $10,000 to prove what "You believe" is true:
"$10,000 challenge"
The Liberty Veterans Association offers a $10,000 reward to anyone who can establish the truth of A. Jay Cristol's claim: 1
http://www.ussliberty.com/challenge.htm
Loyal American's won't hold our breath for your proof of what "you believe/parrot from your Hasbara Handlers!
You and a small percentage of others blame Israel for everything!

Check this one out. They blame Israel for the japanese earthquake and tsunami in 2011 which is no surprise for Muslim propaganda.

http://www.henrymakow.com/theargumentfukushim...
Jill

Pahrump, NV

#158 Sep 23, 2012
Republican Eagle wrote:
<quoted text>
I still believe it was a friendly fire incident.

Tell that to the families and the survivors of that incident. Another anti American apologist.

ussliberty.org
gold fish

Tel Aviv, Israel

#160 Sep 23, 2012
Gray wrote:
Just remember: BEWARE PAID, FULL TIME , SCRIPTED HASBARATS AT WORK!
“The lobby argues that good Americans spy for Israel.”
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2007/may/07/0...
Hasbara Handbook:
http://www.muzzlewatch.com/wp-content/wujshas...
"The Pro-Israel Propaganda Handbook"
"Guides for Activists" , explains that it is often better to score points than to engage in actual arguments, and offers an explanation for how, in its own words, "to score points whilst avoiding debate."
Page 8 Communication Styles:
“Point Scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate whilst avoiding genuine discussion.”
The Handbook:“,,,,,offers an explanation for how, in its own words, "to score points whilst avoiding debate."
Page 31 “Just walk away: When Not To Engage”:
-“When you don’t know enough” or are “over your head”
“HASBARA HANDBOOK”
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasb...
Page 8 Communication Styles:
“Point Scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate whilst avoiding genuine discussion.”
The Handbook:“,,,,,offers an explanation for how, in its own words, "to score points whilst avoiding debate."
Page 31 “Just walk away: When Not To Engage”:
-“When they don’t know enough” or “over your head”
"Guides for Activists"
“The point of all this is not to use arguments backed by reason and evidence. It is, instead, to manipulate (the handbook's own term) an audience precisely in order not to examine arguments, not to think critically about what is being said.”
"Creating negative connotations by name calling is done to try to get the audience to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations, without allowing a real examination of that person or idea,"
“The less successful the initial attempt to close things down, the louder the next round of condemnation, the more heated the invective, the more extreme the charges, the more gratuitous the escalation.”
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Only a mtthr fckkr like yourself, that can't write anything of relevance on his own.... can believe and can try to get others to believe, that all the crap that you copy paste is truth...

I believe that if you quit your obsesive perverse habit of humping Chinese inflatable dolls twice a day ... your rhetorics will be more credible...

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Cheers...!!

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Bjorn

Stockholm, Sweden

#161 Sep 23, 2012
naturally, war with Iran means III world war.
But it is another way for usa and all sidekickers. To stop to meddle there, to withdraw these troops from occupied countries especially Afghanistan and leave this whole region.
ana

London, UK

#162 Sep 23, 2012
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>Of course You Traitorous, Zio-Nut, War Mongers want MORE American G.I.s to Die for "Greater Israel"

When were YOU ever among Muslim People?

These are the words of YOUR Heros:

“The State of Israel must must invent dangers and to do this, it must adopt methods of provocation and revenge.......and, above all, let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire more space.”
“Moshe Sharett; Diaries”

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982

Earlier, it was SO EASY for America's Infestation of Parasitic "Dual" Citizen, Quislings and AIPAC Hirelings to sent SOME AMERICAN to Die for Zionist Lebensraum!!!

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN.’03

SO WHAT HAPPENED?

“No ‘Red Line’ for Israel”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/15/no-re...

EXCERPT “But it seems that, this time at least, President Obama has decided against launching a world war on behalf of the Jewish State and its powerful lobby.
The meaning of this is simple: America just doesnÂ’t buy the Israeli intelligence reports regarding Iranian intentions.

"Israel is not happy.

"But, by now, one thing should be clear. Israel, as we now have long known, lacks the military capacity to destroy Iran’s nuclear project and needs America to take care of it. Netanyahu and the Jewish Lobby were convinced they could, ahead of the election, pressure Obama into such a suicidal mission. They were wrong.” CONTINUED

OH NO...."Israel is not happy" !!!!!

“The US Navy AEGIS Destroyer, Nicknamed the USS Rachel Corrie, Warned of Attack”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/05/us-na...

EXCERPT:“The issue, however, is that current Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, leader of the militant Likudist group advocating war on Iran and a possible attack on American forces in the region, is no longer communicating with his commanders.

The experience of 1967, one kept alive, not just by Naval historians but a crew properly briefed for a dangerous assignment, may well prevent an impending disaster, a “stew long boiling over” in Netanyahu’s cook pot.
Now, naval personnel in the upcoming exercise have “shoot to kill” orders if approached by unknown aircraft, even if clearly marked as “Israeli.”

FYI: Just ONE AEGIS could wipe out the WHOLE IAF so it's unlikely to be any other "mistakes" like the last premeditated, deliberate massacre...including lowered life rafts!

But What About AIPAC and their countless "Quiet Successes"?

Maybe....JUST MAYBE, Americans have noticed that their Sons and Daughters are NEVER coming home from Israel's Regional domination Schemes.

MAYBE...Americans have noticed that our V.A. Hospitals and Military Graveyards are Overflowing with AIPAC's "Quiet Successes"

But, Most of All...MAYBE, Americans have noticed WHO has Extracted countless American Lives and $ Trillions and relentlessly whines for MORE!

So, IF you're one of those "Jonathan Pollard Fans" or a Noisy & Traitorous Paid, Full Time Hasbarats...

....NOW would be a good time for you to slither on back to your nasty, little Nazi Colony before our Rope Makers get REALLY busy!

OK..."Traitorous Turkey" MOVE IT!
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I like u
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#163 Sep 23, 2012
America should always keep it before the world that using nuclear weapons is a viable solution to the Iranian question.
Gray

Powhatan, VA

#164 Sep 23, 2012
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
I like u
Thanks,

Now, THAT'S a welcome sentiment after countless, fact free, off topic, vulgar & insulting, Hasbarat Spam-Trums; you can be sure that some examples will follow your kind words.

Many rational people; especially my fellow combat Vets, Jews, non-Jews and involved citizens seem to share many of many of my views and welcome an honest exchange of various ideas. War has no glory, heros or winners; just Losers, toxic waste, & mutilated, burned, traumatized human beings.

I'm afraid that the apathetic, cloistered, naive and "Professionally Deceived" haven't seen nor can imagine the cataclysmic consequences of doing nothing in the face of today's "Greatest Global Threat": Netanyahu & his fellow delusional, fanatics.

No nation, ethnic group, religion etc has a monopoly on either "Good" or "Evil" however, today, Tel Aviv's pampered, delusional and Hate Filled, Zionist Madmen, their Paid, Full Time, Propagandists (not simply "The Jews") are a proven & urgent threat to the survival of this Planet.

The U.S. is equally guilty and has been since the malevolent domination of powerful & insidious Zionist lobbies shaping our Foreign Policy as noted by the censored observations below:

“There was not a single act of Arab terrorism against Americans before 1968, when the U.S. became the chief supplier of military equipment and economic aid to Israel.”

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."-- John Sheehan,

I hope you'll consider joining and assisting the many underfunded Anti-War Organizations scorned by powerful War Profiteers & and programmed, T.V. War Fans; the absentee "Couch Commandos"

Many Thanks for your questionably deserved sentiments; I look forward to reading your observations.
Best Wishes,
Gray
Gray

Powhatan, VA

#165 Sep 23, 2012
FROM THE DEMENTED SPAWN OF DR. STRANGELOVE:
Faith wrote:
America should always keep it before the world that using nuclear weapons is a viable solution to the Iranian question.
Guess what: there is no doubt in far brighter minds than scripted, paid, full time Hasbarats that:

".....a viable solution to the Israeli question." would be the concurrent destruction of your dear, Nasty, Little Nazi Colony.......Nuclear Fallout flaunts International borders as casually as your Grasping Gang of "Greater Israel" Madmen

By all means, let's slaughter billions of innocent people, ESPECIALLY trash Israel & the rest of the planet for your dear, Nasty, Little Nazi Colony

"World War III starts 25 September 2012”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/20/steve...

EXCERPT" Iran and Russia (and possibly China, too) are going to retaliate with a massive response. We in the USA are not going to be spared. There is still the grotesque attitude among military minds that nuclear wars are “winnable”. Every human being, not just every American, should be required to watch “Dr. Strangelove” annually as a reminder of its complete insanity.

With help from his neocon friends, Netanyahu threatens the entire world with the suicidal notion that Iran must be attacked, and the Israeli prime minister must be stopped, even if it means assassination, according to Pieczenik

Otherwise he will bring down Israel, the world, and there will be a third world war.”

Nuke-Mad Netanyahu is far more worthy of "Neutralizing" than Stalin, Hitler etc because of the extent of the damage he demands

Enjoy the Show..... Until you Glow!

------

Now, how about your obligatory, simple minded, fact free insult....
.
...."When 'You're Over Your Head...." Hasbara Handbook" P. 31
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#166 Sep 23, 2012
Gray wrote:
FROM THE DEMENTED SPAWN OF DR. STRANGELOVE:
<quoted text>
Guess what: there is no doubt in far brighter minds than scripted, paid, full time Hasbarats that:
".....a viable solution to the Israeli question." would be the concurrent destruction of your dear, Nasty, Little Nazi Colony.......Nuclear Fallout flaunts International borders as casually as your Grasping Gang of "Greater Israel" Madmen
By all means, let's slaughter billions of innocent people, ESPECIALLY trash Israel & the rest of the planet for your dear, Nasty, Little Nazi Colony
"World War III starts 25 September 2012”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/20/steve...
EXCERPT" Iran and Russia (and possibly China, too) are going to retaliate with a massive response. We in the USA are not going to be spared. There is still the grotesque attitude among military minds that nuclear wars are “winnable”. Every human being, not just every American, should be required to watch “Dr. Strangelove” annually as a reminder of its complete insanity.
With help from his neocon friends, Netanyahu threatens the entire world with the suicidal notion that Iran must be attacked, and the Israeli prime minister must be stopped, even if it means assassination, according to Pieczenik
Otherwise he will bring down Israel, the world, and there will be a third world war.”
Nuke-Mad Netanyahu is far more worthy of "Neutralizing" than Stalin, Hitler etc because of the extent of the damage he demands
Enjoy the Show..... Until you Glow!
------
Now, how about your obligatory, simple minded, fact free insult....
.
...."When 'You're Over Your Head...." Hasbara Handbook" P. 31
I don't read your bullsh*t, boiler plate, re-run, copy and paste posts. Are you even capable of an original thought? You plate-in-the-head goofball.
ana

London, UK

#167 Sep 23, 2012
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks,

Now, THAT'S a welcome sentiment after countless, fact free, off topic, vulgar & insulting, Hasbarat Spam-Trums; you can be sure that some examples will follow your kind words.

Many rational people; especially my fellow combat Vets, Jews, non-Jews and involved citizens seem to share many of many of my views and welcome an honest exchange of various ideas. War has no glory, heros or winners; just Losers, toxic waste, & mutilated, burned, traumatized human beings.

I'm afraid that the apathetic, cloistered, naive and "Professionally Deceived" haven't seen nor can imagine the cataclysmic consequences of doing nothing in the face of today's "Greatest Global Threat": Netanyahu & his fellow delusional, fanatics.

No nation, ethnic group, religion etc has a monopoly on either "Good" or "Evil" however, today, Tel Aviv's pampered, delusional and Hate Filled, Zionist Madmen, their Paid, Full Time, Propagandists (not simply "The Jews") are a proven & urgent threat to the survival of this Planet.

The U.S. is equally guilty and has been since the malevolent domination of powerful & insidious Zionist lobbies shaping our Foreign Policy as noted by the censored observations below:

“There was not a single act of Arab terrorism against Americans before 1968, when the U.S. became the chief supplier of military equipment and economic aid to Israel.”

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."-- John Sheehan,

I hope you'll consider joining and assisting the many underfunded Anti-War Organizations scorned by powerful War Profiteers & and programmed, T.V. War Fans; the absentee "Couch Commandos"

Many Thanks for your questionably deserved sentiments; I look forward to reading your observations.
Best Wishes,
Gray
It is just refreshing to hear that's all.... After being a victim of racially motivated , islamaphobic, hate taunts by those who think war and unlawful killing of people is acceptable...and when I dare bring to question the position and political reasoning for Israels stance in the Middle East and the American support it receives I am doomed, i have been branded as anti Semitic even though I am an Arab ... A terrorist because I am a Muslim ... And personally guilty for the death of any American, which is absurd

I have only ever defended the right for people to live in peace, and spoken out against any war monger and the real motivation behind such assaults...

Sad others can't see it for themselves :(

Seems the world population is becoming desensitised to violence and hateful aggression against other humans who share our planet ...

I posted this article on another topic read it its back from 2007

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
ana

London, UK

#168 Sep 23, 2012
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I don't read your bullsh*t, boiler plate, re-run, copy and paste posts. Are you even capable of an original thought? You plate-in-the-head goofball.
Why are you so hateful faith???
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#169 Sep 23, 2012
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so hateful faith???
Hateful? I'm a kind and gentle soul. I rescue stray animals. Why would you even say something like that?
voice of peace

Israel

#170 Sep 23, 2012
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks,
Now, THAT'S a welcome sentiment after countless, fact free, off topic, vulgar & insulting, Hasbarat Spam-Trums; you can be sure that some examples will follow your kind words.
Many rational people; especially my fellow combat Vets, Jews, non-Jews and involved citizens seem to share many of many of my views and welcome an honest exchange of various ideas. War has no glory, heros or winners; just Losers, toxic waste, & mutilated, burned, traumatized human beings.
I'm afraid that the apathetic, cloistered, naive and "Professionally Deceived" haven't seen nor can imagine the cataclysmic consequences of doing nothing in the face of today's "Greatest Global Threat": Netanyahu & his fellow delusional, fanatics.
No nation, ethnic group, religion etc has a monopoly on either "Good" or "Evil" however, today, Tel Aviv's pampered, delusional and Hate Filled, Zionist Madmen, their Paid, Full Time, Propagandists (not simply "The Jews") are a proven & urgent threat to the survival of this Planet.
The U.S. is equally guilty and has been since the malevolent domination of powerful & insidious Zionist lobbies shaping our Foreign Policy as noted by the censored observations below:
“There was not a single act of Arab terrorism against Americans before 1968, when the U.S. became the chief supplier of military equipment and economic aid to Israel.”
"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."-- John Sheehan,
I hope you'll consider joining and assisting the many underfunded Anti-War Organizations scorned by powerful War Profiteers & and programmed, T.V. War Fans; the absentee "Couch Commandos"
Many Thanks for your questionably deserved sentiments; I look forward to reading your observations.
Best Wishes,
Gray
.

Hey Gravy, where can I send you a dollar donation..??

Hahahahahahaha...

.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#171 Sep 23, 2012
Give me the address of the Hasbara HQ. I want to get paid for this sh*t.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#172 Sep 23, 2012
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so hateful faith???
Hateful is your silence on the endless slaughter of Muslims by other Muslims in Syria. Hateful is watching a group of radicalized Islamofascists take over the American Embassy, murder innocents and justify it.

Hateful is the massacre of Muslims by other Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya. Hateful is that you blame others for the mass murder of Shia by Sunni in Pakistan. More than 27,000 people have been killed since the uprising against Assad’s rule erupted in March- your silence is hateful.

Christian minorities all around the Muslim world—especially women and children—are being abducted, tortured, raped, forced to convert to Islam, and/or enslaved.That is hateful.In Egypt, at least 550 such cases have been documented in the last five years, and have only increased since the revolution. Hateful is your silence in the face of world wide Islamic crimes against humanity!
ana

London, UK

#173 Sep 23, 2012
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Hateful? I'm a kind and gentle soul. I rescue stray animals. Why would you even say something like that?
Because you are mean to humans

I am happy you rescue animals, try to extend that empathy to human kind too then you will be nearly perfect ;)
ana

London, UK

#174 Sep 23, 2012
Faith wrote:
Give me the address of the Hasbara HQ. I want to get paid for this sh*t.
Lolllll
ana

London, UK

#175 Sep 23, 2012
waleed sadat wrote:
<quoted text>Hateful is your silence on the endless slaughter of Muslims by other Muslims in Syria. Hateful is watching a group of radicalized Islamofascists take over the American Embassy, murder innocents and justify it.

Hateful is the massacre of Muslims by other Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya. Hateful is that you blame others for the mass murder of Shia by Sunni in Pakistan. More than 27,000 people have been killed since the uprising against AssadÂ’s rule erupted in March- your silence is hateful.

Christian minorities all around the Muslim world—especially women and children—are being abducted, tortured, raped, forced to convert to Islam, and/or enslaved.That is hateful.In Egypt, at least 550 such cases have been documented in the last five years, and have only increased since the revolution. Hateful is your silence in the face of world wide Islamic crimes against humanity!
Tell me Christians in Iraq under saddam did they live a more peaceful existence than now?? Were Christian womwn in Iraq under rule of saddam forced to cover their hair???

Christians in Syria at the hands of these so called freedom fighters are they not being driven out of their homes where they have lived for century's ???

What about Christian Palestinians - it is the west which has turned this particular conflict into a religious one, Palestinians are Christian, Muslim, atheist ... Freedom for Palestine is freedom for Palestinians not Islam

Christian Arabs in the Middle East have as much right as Muslim Arabs .... Emphasise the word Arab
ana

London, UK

#176 Sep 23, 2012
ana wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me Christians in Iraq under saddam did they live a more peaceful existence than now?? Were Christian womwn in Iraq under rule of saddam forced to cover their hair???

Christians in Syria at the hands of these so called freedom fighters are they not being driven out of their homes where they have lived for century's ???

What about Christian Palestinians - it is the west which has turned this particular conflict into a religious one, Palestinians are Christian, Muslim, atheist ... Freedom for Palestine is freedom for Palestinians not Islam

Christian Arabs in the Middle East have as much right as Muslim Arabs .... Emphasise the word Arab
Yes there are some fools who use Islam and abuse the meaning of Islam

Unfortunately these very fools have been armed and supported by the west ...

I haven't really kept up with what is going on in Masr, and I am sad if Christians are being driven out and forced to convert to Islam, not acceptable and any Muslim who can justify that is not behaving as a Muslim in the eyes of Allah

I hated Mubarak but I am suspicious of the Muslim brotherhood

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