Harper: Congress Says No to Arming Syrian Rebels

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After years of capitulation to greater and greater Executive Branch encroachment on Congressional authority, a growing number of Representatives and Senators are finally standing up to the Obama Administration and rejecting the President's plans to arm the Syrian rebels and draw the United States into a spreading sectarian war inside the Islamic ... (more)
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Syrian

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Jun 29, 2013
 

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Good news indeed!! America does not need to arm AlQaeda linked terrorists.

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Jun 29, 2013
 
Congress blocks pointless expensive ambiguous war no-plan.!?

"...a growing number of Representatives and Senators are finally standing up to the Obama Administration and rejecting the President's plans to arm the Syrian rebels and draw the United States into a spreading sectarian war inside the Islamic world.

On June 26, Associated Press reported that the House Select Committee on Intelligence had unanimously rejected the Obama Adminstration's request for authorization to begin overtly arming the Syrian rebels.

According to the AP account, "Lawmakers last week rejected the Obama administration's initial proposal to arm Syrian rebels, refusing to fund the plan until the White House presents options for what action the US might take at the UN, or what actions might trigger the administration to set up a... no-fly zone. At one of the closed-door briefings, Kerry outlined broad strategy for Syria, while a senior CIA official discussed the specifics of the agency's plan to arm and train selected rebels. One official familiar with that briefing said lawmakers were skeptical of the CIA's plans and raised numerous questions."

Reportedly, several other Congressional committees whose approval is also needed to transfer funds from one intelligence program to another also rejected the administration's request.

Furthermore, four bills have been introduced into the House of Representatives since President Obama first announced plans to begin arming the Syrian rebels on June 13, all placing a block on any such actions without prior Congressional approval.

On June 19, Rep. Rick Nolan (D-Min.) introduced HR 2432 prohibiting the United States from arming the Syrian rebels.

The next day, Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC) introduced H. Con. Res. 40, making it an impeachable offense for President Obama to engage in any way in military activity in Syria without first obtaining Congressional authorization...."

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Jun 29, 2013
 
"On June 26, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) introduced HR 2507 intended to "prohibit any military assistance to Syrian opposition force unless Congress issues a formal declaration of war pursuant to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution."


The actions coming out of Congress have been further backed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey.

At a June 27 Pentagon press briefing with Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, Gen. Dempsey warned, "If we chose to conduct a no-fly zone, it's essentially an act of war, and I'd like to understand the plan to make peace before we start a war."

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Jun 29, 2013
 
None of this matters in lawless lands ofcourse.
Oliver Cromwell

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Jun 29, 2013
 
Genie2 wrote:
None of this matters in lawless lands ofcourse.
Spot on,the US Empire and its prostitute Client States have been using International and even their own domestic Law for Bog paper for years,Gangsters don't take any notice of the Law.
Syrian

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Jun 29, 2013
 
Genie2 wrote:
"On June 26, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) introduced HR 2507 intended to "prohibit any military assistance to Syrian opposition force unless Congress issues a formal declaration of war pursuant to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution."
The actions coming out of Congress have been further backed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey.
At a June 27 Pentagon press briefing with Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, Gen. Dempsey warned, "If we chose to conduct a no-fly zone, it's essentially an act of war, and I'd like to understand the plan to make peace before we start a war."
Wow!! Could they have actually suffered a return to sanity?
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Jun 30, 2013
 
Syrian wrote:
<quoted text> Wow!! Could they have actually suffered a return to sanity?
No matter. Sanity still prevails in a mere minority of their august body.
Syrian

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Jun 30, 2013
 
mxlplx wrote:
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No matter. Sanity still prevails in a mere minority of their august body.
Good point!
Falcon

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Jun 30, 2013
 
This is one of the most positve signs thus far, I think congress will eventually gain enough momentum to quash Obama's devious efforts in arming the terrorists, let's hope at least. I don't think any American in their right mind can see any good side in getting involved in yet another conflict, it's all just too damaging for US citizens and their country as a whole. The article points out to the fact that Obama is "secretly" supplying weopons, I don't know what more the bleating citizens need thrown at them until they decide to take a stand. They're obviously too self obsessed about themselves, well there are plenty of enemies and barbarians obsessed over them too. Where are the watchmen may I ask?!

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Jun 30, 2013
 
Falcon wrote:
This is one of the most positve signs thus far, I think congress will eventually gain enough momentum to quash Obama's devious efforts in arming the terrorists, let's hope at least. I don't think any American in their right mind can see any good side in getting involved in yet another conflict, it's all just too damaging for US citizens and their country as a whole. The article points out to the fact that Obama is "secretly" supplying weopons, I don't know what more the bleating citizens need thrown at them until they decide to take a stand. They're obviously too self obsessed about themselves, well there are plenty of enemies and barbarians obsessed over them too. Where are the watchmen may I ask?!

The watchmen are at their post , "don't worry" yourself about that.
Actually it was they who picked up the new signal.
It came from over the Arctic , the Eskimos are smoking their Igloo's !?, don't ask me how , I only hope they haven't sacrificed their morals.
American

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Jun 30, 2013
 
Unfortunately, I suspect the US strategy now is to arm some so-called moderate factions of the opposition in order to quash the extreme islamist factions from gaining power. It's a two pronged approach, against both Assad, since they've boxed themselves into an anti-Assad corner, and Qatari backed salafists. I think now Qatar is their true focus. Of course, it's all on the sly and frankly smacks of desperation, with not much more chance of success than a snowball's in hell.

Hoisted by our own petards springs to mind.
Syrian

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Jun 30, 2013
 
Falcon wrote:
This is one of the most positve signs thus far, I think congress will eventually gain enough momentum to quash Obama's devious efforts in arming the terrorists, let's hope at least. I don't think any American in their right mind can see any good side in getting involved in yet another conflict, it's all just too damaging for US citizens and their country as a whole. The article points out to the fact that Obama is "secretly" supplying weopons, I don't know what more the bleating citizens need thrown at them until they decide to take a stand. They're obviously too self obsessed about themselves, well there are plenty of enemies and barbarians obsessed over them too. Where are the watchmen may I ask?!
Good point!
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Jul 1, 2013
 
Falcon wrote:
I don't know what more the bleating citizens need thrown at them until they decide to take a stand. They're obviously too self obsessed about themselves, well there are plenty of enemies and barbarians obsessed over them too. Where are the watchmen may I ask?!
We're too busy watching the Zimmmerman trial to be bothered with that. And before that, it was the Jody Arias trial. We have too many trials and tribulations right here to bother ourselves with anything over there.

The Kardashians' new baby is quite stunning, BTW.
Syrian

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Jul 2, 2013
 
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We're too busy watching the Zimmmerman trial to be bothered with that. And before that, it was the Jody Arias trial. We have too many trials and tribulations right here to bother ourselves with anything over there.
The Kardashians' new baby is quite stunning, BTW.
LOL!!!
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#15
Jul 2, 2013
 
I wish they'd finish up with this arab springy thing. It's taking way to much air time away from the fascinating debates on gay marriage. Isn't that what the Egyptians and Turks are all rioting about now anyway, the right to walk like an Egyptian or something or other? PS: Did I spell those names right?
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Jul 2, 2013
 
Good, now get our troops out of Jordan on the syrian border and out of egypt. If oblameo is worried about egypt embassy safety then vacate it and send no troops in. Even russia had the presence of mind to vacate all presence in syria and pulled troops OUT, not send troops into another muzzie brotherhood stronghold to get themselves killed. A couple hundred marines and a million protesters, gee what are the odds ?.

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Jul 2, 2013
 
I think Falcon is having it off with somebody and can't drag herself a way.
Probably watching too much CNN.
I hope its not the Group. Ie.
She's doing it off with .
His comments are disgusting.
Poofters should be banished not encouraged.
Michael Sheroff

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Jul 2, 2013
 
Here's what we gain by arming Syria opposition.
1. They are anti-Iran.
2. They are anti-Hezbollah.
3. They are pro democracy.
4. We will have influence in a post Assad Syra.
5. We will be against tyranny.
6. We will stop the slaughter of innocents.
The salafists that have entered the battle in Syria
have arrived, after we failed to arm the secular
elements, who were looking for democracy. Isn't
that who we are, and what we are for? But by
staying out of evrything, we allowed the Salfists
to grow stronger. But even these "radicals" are against Assad, who bombs his own cities.
Obama has entered the fray as an afterthought, and
only because politial pressure has come from John
McCain, and Lindsay Graham, to arm the good guys.
He is not trying to sneak this through, he really
doesn't want it.
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Jul 2, 2013
 
Dream on, me boy. Dream on.

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Jul 2, 2013
 
John Mclame agrees with our Prez

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