Martin family attorney wanted a better jury

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Bob Schieffer reflects that "America has always led best when we led by example," but it's struggling to do that now.

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“Liberty & Justice For All”

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Jul 20, 2013
 
Muay Thai Champ wrote:
<quoted text>You are right, but these people hate to be called racists.
In fact, no testimony ever said that Martin was on top of Zimmerman. Zimmerman had said this, but he did not testify. Zimmerman told the police officer that Martin had banged his head on the concrete 23-24 times and the police officer said no way and arrested him.
A witness said that the fight was upright with the two throwing blows and Zimmerman pursuing Martin from left to right.
Of course, Trayvon almost home, he had only left during the half time of the NBA All star game to get snacks from 711.
I am a Muay Thai fighter and I also do jujitsu and if Zimmerman trained for almost 2 years and was not in control of a ground fight, then all of the students at that school need to get a refund.
Of course, Zimmerman was on the bottom, 23-24 times his heading striking and yet he continued to scream without interruptions which would occur each time his head hit the ground. Also, after the 10th strike of head to concrete Zimmerman would have a concussion and by 20 he would have fractured his skull.
Trayvon was closer to 11 and Zimmerman was closer to 40.
Only a racist jury would not come back with at least "involuntary manslaughter".
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Don't know if OJ is guilty or not, however, I know that he is in prison and begging to be let out. fat Chance.
isn't he in prosion for breaking and entering and stealing on an unrelated charge from the nicole simpson civil trial on which he was found guilty? yes, yes he is...
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OJ's karma[and the justice system]caught up with him.

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OJ's karma[and the justice system]caught up with him.
actually, his physical actions in the real world caught up with him...

karma is another myth of the supernatural with no factual basis to support it.

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I never stated what he was in prison for, I only stated he IS in prison begging for his release.
nice backpeddaling...
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i see oj wrote:
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Post #376 - both a link and quoted testimony from the trial clearly showed Martin as on top. That is the testimony. It's also widely available online if you would prefer to do your own research.
And I will believe the testimony of the ME who actually performed the autopsy over any statements not made under oath by a Crump crony, i.e. funeral director.
if anyone should be investigated for lying its the funeral director Kurtz that was in bed with the mayor?he has been involved with organizations promoting blacks for the last 25 years?he claims no blood was on travons hands and the autopsy proved travon had blood on his knuckles?kurtz is a lying racist that at least should be fired!has he been so negligent in his past?the travon lovers now think the jury was biased as well as the doctor that performed the autopsy? a better jury would have only been one that convicted Zimmerman!they initially liked the jury for they thought women would convict on emotion and not on facts!blacks cant be satisfied unless its all their way!go spend this energy on Chicago and dc where blacks are killed every day!they cant do that for the liberal press wont report on that?

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alan wrote:
<quoted text>if anyone should be investigated for lying its the funeral director Kurtz that was in bed with the mayor?he has been involved with organizations promoting blacks for the last 25 years?he claims no blood was on travons hands and the autopsy proved travon had blood on his knuckles?kurtz is a lying racist that at least should be fired!has he been so negligent in his past?the travon lovers now think the jury was biased as well as the doctor that performed the autopsy? a better jury would have only been one that convicted Zimmerman!they initially liked the jury for they thought women would convict on emotion and not on facts!blacks cant be satisfied unless its all their way!go spend this energy on Chicago and dc where blacks are killed every day!they cant do that for the liberal press wont report on that?
Martin was RIGHT HANDED. The autopsy report clearly states there were no cuts or abrasions found on Martin's right hand, The same autopsy report also clearly states there were two small abrasions on Martin's LEFT HAND, pinky and ring finger which could have been DEFENSIVE wounds, bubba. None of Zimmerman's DNA was found anywhere on Martin's hands, fingers, knuckles, wrists, forearms, or underneath his fingernails. What that means is Zimmerman LIED. Martin could not have punched or put his hands on Zimmerman's face or mouth without getting his killer's DNA all over his hands.
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<quoted text>check out his record for yourself or see the copies of it posted on this thread. a proven physically violent man...
Proven means convicted, and Zimmerman has been convicted of what again?

Oh, that's right, nothing.
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Not at all, correcting your misstatements is always a positive.
By the way, what is "backpeddaling"?
You wouldn't understand. It is an Obamabot thing where you disagree with something until Obama says it is the right thing then you support it or you support something like equal protection under the law until Obama opposes it like in this case than you oppose it.
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Little Princess Jeanntel admitted under oath at trial that Trayvon threw the first punch. She was probably egging him on. Trayvon was high as a kite, and though he could overpower the Hispanic. He was big enough to fight bear with a stick, and he got himself shot dead.
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Cat74 wrote:
Little Princess Jeanntel admitted under oath at trial that Trayvon threw the first punch. She was probably egging him on. Trayvon was high as a kite, and though he could overpower the Hispanic. He was big enough to fight bear with a stick, and he got himself shot dead.
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Cat74 wrote:
Little Princess Jeanntel admitted under oath at trial that Trayvon threw the first punch. She was probably egging him on. Trayvon was high as a kite, and though he could overpower the Hispanic. He was big enough to fight bear with a stick, and he got himself shot dead.
how did she know? did Treyvon say, "hang on, I'm gonna punch this stalker"?

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Orlando Sentinel, published details of Sanford PD's report of Zimmerman's account of the killing.

The report said Zimmerman told police that Martin attacked him from behind, punched him in the nose, wrestled him to the ground and violently bashed his head on a sidewalk. It was then, Zimmerman told the police, that he pulled out his 9mm handgun and shot Martin in the chest.

Surveillance video from the Sanford police station recorded the night of the shooting, first broadcast by ABC News on Wednesday, showed a clean-shaven and fit-looking Zimmerman being ushered in to the station without visible abrasions, bruises or bloodstains on his clothes, all of which may fail to support his account of a violent death struggle. In addition, the funeral director who handled Martin’s body reported there were no cuts or other marks on the teen's hands that would suggest violent fisticuffs.

In the days after the shooting, Martin’s family said police officers told them Zimmerman had a clean record. But a cursory search of county records showed a 2005 arrest on charges of resisting arrest and assaulting a law enforcement officer. The charges were later dropped.

Also in 2005, Zimmerman was involved in a bitter domestic violence incident with his ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo. In that case, Zuazo filed for a restraining order against Zimmerman, who she said snatched her cell phone from her hand and pushed her during an argument. The next day, both filed court petitions accusing the other of violence.

According to the Miami Herald, Zuazo said that three years earlier, Zimmerman attacked her while the two were driving to a counseling session. Zuazo said she popped her gum in his face and he repeatedly smacked her in the face. In January 2002, she added, Zimmerman became enraged that she had come home late. They wrestled and he threw her on the bed, smacking her, according to the newspaper.

In September 2003, Zimmerman called police and reported that another motorist spat on him, according to reports, Zimmerman followed the man in his car until the police arrived. Daniel Osmun, the other driver, told police that Zimmerman was tailgating and that he spit his gum out the window "out of frustration."

Osum said that Zimmerman then pulled alongside of him, and the two argued. In a police report of the incident, Osum said “at one point, he thought Mr. Zimmerman was going to attack him." No charges were filed against either man.

Zimmerman was the self-appointed captain of the neighborhood watch at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, a gated community where Martin was visiting his father and his father’s girlfriend when he was killed. Zimmerman noticed Martin, who was walking home from a store, and called 911 to report the youth as "suspicious." (Zimmerman had called 911 46 times in recent years.) According to 911 recordings the night of the killing, Zimmerman followed Martin against a dispatcher’s recommendation. The police initially said that at one point Martin noticed he was being followed, turned to ask what Zimmerman wanted, and a physical altercation ensued.

Zimmerman was questioned and released by police, who said they lacked evidence to contradict his self-defense claim. The State Attorney’s Office is considering whether to file charges. A grand jury is scheduled to be called on April 10.

Some of Zimmerman’s neighbors said he had a history of being overly aggressive and followed people whom he thought appeared suspicious back to their homes.

At an emergency homeowner’s association meeting on March 1, days after the killing,“one man was escorted out because he openly expressed his frustration because he had previously contacted the Sanford Police Department about Zimmerman approaching him and even coming to his home,” a resident who spoke on the condition of anonymity told HuffPost.“It was also made known that there had been several complaints about George Zimmerman and his tactics" in his neighborhood watch role.
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Charges were dropped,no charges filed,lack of evidence and some made up person made trumped up allegations on condition of anonymity,that about right?
The prosecution already tried to build a case advancing a narrative once and it didn't work.
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he b gone now

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Trayboon picked the wrong cracka to jack wit.

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Trayboon picked the wrong cracka to jack wit.
seems the cracka picked the wrong kid to jack with, then like the violent, sore loser he was, had to turn to his little gun to save his ass from the poor decision he made...

coward...

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Oh, how is Trayvon doing? I hope he is feeling better.
not really, the coward with his little penis replacement gun killed him cuz he couldn't defend himself against an unarmed teenager...

coward.

bet if he didn't have his gun he would have stayed cowering in his car as he should have, frightened of his own shadow...

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California Girl wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to know everything about everything and everything about everyone. You seem to have all the answers for everything. Here's an idea, why don't you get together with your brothers AL, Jesse, and Eric, and the Obama's and tell them how intelligent and clairvoyant you are and see if they'll run you for Prez in 2016. I'm sure you'd get 99.999% of the black votes. I bet you could solve all the problems in this country and all the foreign affairs issues in a New York minute.
We would be lucky to have someone as intelligent, clairvoyant, and, especially someone as affable as you are. You certainly have a way with words. I'm sure the entire country would just love you...
thank you, i will think about it...

it is telling of your own intelligence that you can spot my brilliance. good on you...

of course, if you could counter any of my posts with facts, youwould have, so you can shove your snark up your ass. there, is that affable enough for you?
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Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin to death, was fired from a job securing illegal house parties for “being too aggressive,” according to the New York Daily News, which quoted a former colleague of Zimmerman’s. According to the co-worker, Zimmerman worked for two agencies that provided security for the illegal house parties from 2001 to 2005.
“Usually he was just a cool guy,” said the former co-worker, who the newspaper didn't name.“But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When dude snapped, he snapped.” The Daily News said Zimmerman earned $50 to $100 a night for the parties. He was fired for being too aggressive with patrons.
“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying.“One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said.“It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
LOL

More unsubstantiated allegations by unknown sources,and,a drunk girl twisted her ankle?

The only thing that could make for a more slam dunk case would be if the drunk girls shoe flew off.

Lock this guy up and throw away the key already.

Creepy azz crakas gone craaayyyzzzeeeee.
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Voice of Reality wrote:
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And if frogs had wings they would not bump their butts when they hopped, however, they do not have wings, Zimmerman did have a gun and Martin is taking his dirt nap.
Better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.

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