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Mar 3, 2009
 
Yesus dari Nazaret (kurang lebih antara 6 SM–4 SM - 29–33) adalah seorang tukang kayu, pengkhotbah/pengajar, penyembuh, guru/rabbi, pembuat mujizat, dan tokoh Yahudi yang paling terkenal; di dalam kekristenan Yesus Kristus. Orang Kristen percaya, Yesus adalah Anak Allah, Tuhan, Mesias, dan Juru Selamat umat manusia; dalam Islam, Isa Almasih adalah seorang nabi penting (Nabi Isa).

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KRISTEN MEMBENARKAN SUMBANG MAHRAM

Genesis

19:31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

19:33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

19:34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.[Brick Testament] The Seduction of Lot

19:35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

Sekarang hujahkan kebenaran kristen ini.

Apakah benar kitab tuhanmu mengisahkan tentang PORNOGRAFI...

BIBLE MU SA-PERTI MAJALAH PORNOGRAFI...

AYOH BINCANGKAN BERSAMA-SAMA...
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God is real wether or not he is Jesus or Alah...
what is the most important thing is that we live by example...i wont say all christians are bad or all of them are pure just like muslims....tell me that all muslims are pure and holy and have never committed sin...ill be muslim right away.Who ever god is...he will never be pleased to see his followers to be talking so cheap about another believe like this...shame on you.....u are the worst example a muslim can have to have others to convert into muslim....
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wilis wrote:
KRISTEN MEMBENARKAN SUMBANG MAHRAM
Genesis
19:31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
19:33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
19:34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.[Brick Testament] The Seduction of Lot
19:35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
Sekarang hujahkan kebenaran kristen ini.
Apakah benar kitab tuhanmu mengisahkan tentang PORNOGRAFI...
BIBLE MU SA-PERTI MAJALAH PORNOGRAFI...
AYOH BINCANGKAN BERSAMA-SAMA...
haiya....jangan bising lagi, you terlalu sensitif lah. tanya sini, tanya sana, kalau mahu tahu semua semua, pergi lah masuk ke gereja sana lalu tanya paderi situ. you ni, tak bermaruah, tak malu lah, berani cakap prono sana, prono sini, hey, Jesus itu ialah tuhan amat besar, baik you diam, jangan tanya lagi.nanti you di landa sumpah (curse) oleh Jesus. Silence is golden.
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#168
Mar 9, 2009
 
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jika islam bersetuju membunuh org murtad...saya tidak ada halangan.sedia murtad sedia dibunuh.
Awak pun sama Lisa...MURTAD
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korang nie dah tau datuk azhar mansur tu dah kristian tak reti reti lagi nak pi bunuh dia ..memang sapa name Azhar memang celaka janganlah taruk nama anak Azhar

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#170
Mar 9, 2009
 
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haiya....jangan bising lagi, you terlalu sensitif lah. tanya sini, tanya sana, kalau mahu tahu semua semua, pergi lah masuk ke gereja sana lalu tanya paderi situ. you ni, tak bermaruah, tak malu lah, berani cakap prono sana, prono sini, hey, Jesus itu ialah tuhan amat besar, baik you diam, jangan tanya lagi.nanti you di landa sumpah (curse) oleh Jesus. Silence is golden.
Sorry I failed to see why you cannot answer my question (no argument in your statement above)

If you are Christian, perhaps you read the porno book oppsss sorry I mean bible.

You should at least, leave some comment for the above mentioned statement.
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#171
Mar 9, 2009
 
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Sorry I failed to see why you cannot answer my question (no argument in your statement above)
If you are Christian, perhaps you read the porno book oppsss sorry I mean bible.
You should at least, leave some comment for the above mentioned statement.
Byk perkara lagi jika kami org2 islam/beriman boleh pertikaikan agama forumer2 yg hentam islam ni TAPI Nabi mulia kami Nabi saw dah ajar kami tentang akhlak & jgn hina/hentam agama org lain dgn syarat org agama lain jgn mulakan dulu.Ada faham???

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#172
Mar 9, 2009
 
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God is real wether or not he is Jesus or Alah...
what is the most important thing is that we live by example...i wont say all christians are bad or all of them are pure just like muslims....tell me that all muslims are pure and holy and have never committed sin...ill be muslim right away.Who ever god is...he will never be pleased to see his followers to be talking so cheap about another believe like this...shame on you.....u are the worst example a muslim can have to have others to convert into muslim....
Whoaaaaaaaaa.... your statement "God is real wether or not he is Jesus or Alah..." to me is non-sense.

In Christian = Jesus is God although he's human and died horribly.
While Muslims = jesus is prophet, Allah the only GOD.

It is different.

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#173
Mar 9, 2009
 
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Byk perkara lagi jika kami org2 islam/beriman boleh pertikaikan agama forumer2 yg hentam islam ni TAPI Nabi mulia kami Nabi saw dah ajar kami tentang akhlak & jgn hina/hentam agama org lain dgn syarat org agama lain jgn mulakan dulu.Ada faham???
On which side are you???

Please read through all post in this thread before you commenting others.

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#174
Mar 9, 2009
 
Here I give you a contradiction statement in bible in which in my opinion that bible & Christian is not holy and pure.

1. Was Jesus a peaceful man?

Statement A (peace)
JOHN 14:27 "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you."
ACTS 10:36 "The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ."
LUKE 2:14 " ... on earth peace, good will toward men."
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statement B (not peace)
MATTHEW 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."
LUKE 22:36 "Then said he unto them,... he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

Why bible giving a contradiction statement.
J Cibai

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#175
Mar 9, 2009
 
brat pitt wrote:
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agama kristian ialah agama tertua di dunia.
Dah obselete... agama modified.... dah outdated... tak boleh pakai lgi di zaman moden ni....
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Mar 10, 2009
 
wilis wrote:
Here I give you a contradiction statement in bible in which in my opinion that bible & Christian is not holy and pure.
1. Was Jesus a peaceful man?
Statement A (peace)
JOHN 14:27 "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you."
ACTS 10:36 "The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ."
LUKE 2:14 " ... on earth peace, good will toward men."
vs.
statement B (not peace)
MATTHEW 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."
LUKE 22:36 "Then said he unto them,... he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Why bible giving a contradiction statement.
Jesus kamu orang dah mati kena salib... Jesus orang Islam (Nabi Isa) di angkat ke langit dan akan diturunkan kemudian utk menyelamat manusia dari Dajjal.... Jesus orang Islam lahir secara misteri dan hilang cara misteri...
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Mar 10, 2009
 
J Cibai wrote:
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Jesus kamu orang dah mati kena salib... Jesus orang Islam (Nabi Isa) di angkat ke langit dan akan diturunkan kemudian utk menyelamat manusia dari Dajjal.... Jesus orang Islam lahir secara misteri dan hilang cara misteri...
Baca kitab kamu benar2, jangan baca tafsirnya karena tafsir itu bukan kitab kamu karena tidak di turunka Allah.

TAFSIR ITU MENYESATKAN.

Apakah kamu akan bilang islam berdasarkan al quran atau berdasarkan kitab tafsir ?

Jika kamu menjawab islam berdasarkan al quran, maka setelah faham isi al quran mari kita diskusi tentang kebenaran Nabi Isa A S/Yesus Kristus berdasarkan quran kamu.
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#178
Mar 10, 2009
 
Realita_Donk wrote:
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Baca kitab kamu benar2, jangan baca tafsirnya karena tafsir itu bukan kitab kamu karena tidak di turunka Allah.
TAFSIR ITU MENYESATKAN.
Apakah kamu akan bilang islam berdasarkan al quran atau berdasarkan kitab tafsir ?
Jika kamu menjawab islam berdasarkan al quran, maka setelah faham isi al quran mari kita diskusi tentang kebenaran Nabi Isa A S/Yesus Kristus berdasarkan quran kamu.
al quran menyatakan lahirnya nabi Isa a.s punyai bapa, tidak pernah disalib, akan mati sebagai pesuruh Allah awt, seorg yg taat serta akur akan perintahNya...
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#179
Mar 10, 2009
 
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al quran menyatakan lahirnya nabi Isa a.s punyai bapa, tidak pernah disalib, akan mati sebagai pesuruh Allah awt, seorg yg taat serta akur akan perintahNya...
"- lahirnya nabi Isa a.s punyai bapa ?"

BACA Al Quran loe yg bener, jgn tafsirnya.

"- tidak pernah disalib"

buat apa di Al quran di sebut-sebut kata "salib" kalau tidak di salib, PAHAMI Al Quran loe yg bener.
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Sorry I failed to see why you cannot answer my question (no argument in your statement above)
If you are Christian, perhaps you read the porno book oppsss sorry I mean bible.
You should at least, leave some comment for the above mentioned statement.
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The Deity of the Holy Spirit

Christianity has traditionally taught that the Holy Spirit is the third Person or Hypostasis of the Godhead. Some, however, have taught that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal force used by God. Is the Holy Spirit God, or simply a power of God? Let's examine the biblical teachings.

I. The Deity of the Holy Spirit

Scripture speaks repeatedly of the Holy Spirit, known also as the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Jesus Christ. Scripture indicates that the Holy Spirit is of the same essence as the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit is ascribed with the attributes of God, is equated with God and does work that only God does.

A. Attributes of God

1. Holiness: In more than 90 places, the Bible calls the Spirit of God "the Holy Spirit." Holiness is a basic characteristic of the Spirit. The Spirit is so holy that blasphemy against the Spirit cannot be forgiven, although blasphemy against Jesus could be (Matt. 12:32). Insulting the Spirit is just as sinful as trampling the Son of God under foot (Heb. 10:29). This indicates that the Spirit is inherently holy, holy in essence, rather than having an assigned or secondary holiness such as the temple had.

The Spirit also has the infinite attributes of God: unlimited in time, space, power and knowledge.

2. Eternality: The Holy Spirit, the Counselor, will be with us "forever" (John 14:16). The Spirit is "eternal" (Heb. 9:14).

3. Omnipresence: David, praising God's greatness, asked, "Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there" (Ps. 139:7-8). God's Spirit, which David uses as a synonym for the presence of God himself, is in heaven and in sheol (v. 8), in the east and in the west (v. 9).

God's Spirit can be said to be poured out on someone, to fill a person, or to descend — yet without implying that the Spirit has moved away from or vacated some other place. Thomas Oden observes that "such statements are grounded in the premises of omnipresence and eternality — attributes ascribed properly only to God" (Life in the Spirit, p. 18).

4. Omnipotence: The works that God does, such as creation, are also ascribed to the Holy Spirit (Job 33:4; Ps. 104:30). Miracles of Jesus Christ were done "by the Spirit" (Matt. 12:28). In Paul's ministry, the work that "Christ has accomplished" was done "through the power of the Spirit" (Rom. 15:18-19).

5. Omniscience: "The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God," Paul said (1 Cor. 2:10). The Spirit of God "knows the thoughts of God" (v. 11). The Spirit therefore knows all things, and is able to teach all things (John 14:26).

Holiness, eternality, omnipresence, omnipotence and omniscience are attributes of God's essence, that is, characteristic of the nature of divine existence. The Holy Spirit has the basic attributes of God.

B. Equated with God

1. Triadic formulas: Several passages discuss the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as equals. In a discussion of spiritual gifts, Paul puts the Spirit, the Lord, and God in grammatically parallel constructions (1 Cor. 12:4-6). Paul closes a letter with a three-part prayer: "May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all" (2 Cor. 13:14). Peter begins a letter with this three-part formula: "who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood" (1 Peter 1:2).
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Of course, the triadic formulas used in these and other scriptures do not prove equality (for example, Eph. 4:5 puts unequal elements in parallel construction), but they do suggest it. The baptismal formula has an even stronger implication of unity — "in the name [singular] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). The Father, Son, and Spirit share a common name, indicating common essence and equality. This verse indicates both plurality and unity. Three names are given, but all three share one name.

2. Word interchanges. Acts 5:3 says that Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit; verse 4 says that Ananias lied to God. This indicates that "the Holy Spirit" and "God" are interchangeable and thus that the Holy Spirit is God. Some people try to explain this by saying that Ananias lied to God only indirectly, simply because the Holy Spirit represented God. This interpretation might be grammatically possible, but it would imply the personality of the Holy Spirit as a divine representative, for one does not lie to an impersonal power. Moreover, Peter told Ananias that he lied not to humans, but to God. The force of the passage is that Ananias has lied not merely to God's representatives, but to God himself, and the Holy Spirit is God to whom Ananias lied.

Another word interchange can be seen in 1 Cor. 3:16 and 6:19. Christians are not only temples of God, they are also temples of the Holy Spirit; the two expressions mean the same thing. A temple, of course, is a habitation for a deity, not a habitation for an impersonal power. When Paul writes "temple of the Holy Spirit," he implies that the Holy Spirit is God.

Another type of verbal equation between God and the Holy Spirit is seen in Acts 13:2: "The Holy Spirit said,`Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." Here, the Holy Spirit speaks on behalf of God, as God. In the same way, Heb. 3:7-11 tells us that the Holy Spirit says the Israelites "tested and tried me"; the Holy Spirit says that "I was angry.... They shall never enter my rest." The Holy Spirit is equated with the God of the Israelites. Heb. 10:15-17 also equates the Spirit and the Lord who makes the new covenant. The Spirit who inspired the prophets is God. This is the work of God the Holy Spirit, which leads us to our next section.

C. Divine work

1. Creating: The Holy Spirit does work that only God can do, such as creating (Gen. 1:2; Job 33:4; Ps. 104:30) and expelling demons (Matt. 12:28).

2. Begetting: The Spirit begot the Son of God (Matt. 1:20; Luke 1:35), and the full divinity of the Son (Col. 1:19) implies the full divinity of the Begetter.

The Spirit begets believers, too — they are born of God (John 1:12) and equally born of the Spirit (John 3:5). "The Spirit gives [eternal] life" (John 6:63). The Spirit is the power by which we will be resurrected (Rom. 8:11).

3. Indwelling: The Holy Spirit is the way in which God lives in his children (Eph. 2:22; 1 John 3:24; 4:13). The Holy Spirit "lives" in us (Rom. 8:11; 1 Cor. 3:16)— and because the Spirit lives in us, we are able to say that God lives in us. We can say that God lives in us only because the Holy Spirit is in some way God. The Spirit is not a representative or a power that lives in us — God himself lives in us. Geoffrey Bromiley gives a concise conclusion: "to have dealings with the Spirit, no less than with the Father and the Son, is to have dealings with God" ("The New Holy Spirit," in The New Life, edited by Millard Erickson, p. 23).

4. Sanctifying: The Holy Spirit makes people holy (Rom. 15:16; 1 Pet. 1:2). The Spirit enables people to enter the kingdom of God (John 3:5). We are saved "through the sanctifying work of the Spirit" (2 Thess. 2:13).

In all these things, the works of the Spirit are the works of God. Whatever the Spirit says or does, God is saying or doing; the Spirit is fully representative of God.
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II. Personality of the Holy Spirit

Scripture describes the Holy Spirit as having personal characteristics: The Spirit has mind and will, speaks and can be spoken to, and acts and intercedes for us. All these indicate personality in the theological sense: The Holy Spirit is a Person or Hypostasis in the same sense that the Father and Son are. Our relationship with God, which is accomplished by the Holy Spirit, is a personal relationship.

A. Life and intelligence

1. Life: The Holy Spirit "lives" (Rom. 8:11; 1 Cor. 3:16).

2. Intelligence: The Spirit "knows" (1 Cor. 2:11). Rom. 8:27 refers to "the mind of the Spirit." This mind is able to make judgments — a decision "seemed good" to the Holy Spirit (Acts 15:28). These verses imply a distinct intelligence.

3. Will: 1 Cor. 12:11 says that the Spirit "determines" decisions, showing that the Spirit has a will. The Greek word means "he or it determines." Although the Greek word does not specify the subject of the verb, the most likely subject in the context is the Spirit. To find a different subject, one would have to backtrack through five verses and six mentions of the Spirit. But this grammatical leapfrogging is not necessary. Since we know from other verses that the Spirit has mind and knowledge and judgment, there is no reason to reject the conclusion in 1 Cor. 12:11 that the Spirit also has will.

B. Communication

1. Speaking: Numerous verses say that the Holy Spirit spoke (Acts 8:29; 10:19; 11:12; 21:11; 1 Tim. 4:1; Heb. 3:7; etc.). Oden observes that "the Spirit speaks in the first person as `I'; `It was I who sent them'(Acts 10:20)....`I have called them'(Acts 13:2). None but a person can say `I' " (The Living God, p. 200).

2. Interaction: The Spirit may be lied to (Acts 5:3), which indicates that the Spirit may be spoken to. The Spirit may be tested (Acts 5:9), insulted (Heb. 10:29) or blasphemed (Matt. 12:31), which implies personal status. Oden gathers additional evidence: "The apostolic testimony applied intensely personal analogies: guiding (Rom. 8:14), convicting (John 16:8), interceding (Rom. 8:26), calling (Acts 13:2), commissioning (Acts 20:28).... Only a person can be vexed (Isa. 63:10) or grieved (Eph. 4:30)" (Life in the Spirit, p. 19).

3. Paraclete: Jesus called the Holy Spirit the parakletos — the Comforter, Advocate or Counselor. The Paraclete is active, teaching (John 14:26), testifying (15:26), convicting (16:8), guiding (16:13) and making truth known (16:14).

Jesus used the masculine form of parakletos; he did not consider it necessary to make the word neuter or to use neuter pronouns. In John 16:14, masculine pronouns are used even after the neuter pneuma is mentioned. It would have been easy to switch to neuter pronouns, but John did not. In other places, neuter pronouns are used for the Spirit, in accordance with grammatical convention. Scripture is not finicky about the grammatical gender of the Spirit, and we need not be either.
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C. Action

1. New life: The Holy Spirit regenerates us, giving us new life (John 3:5). The Spirit sanctifies us (1 Pet. 1:2) and leads us in that new life (Rom. 8:14). The Spirit gives various gifts to build the Church up (1 Cor. 12:7-11), and throughout the book of Acts, we see that the Spirit guides the Church.

2. Intercession: The most "personal" activity of the Holy Spirit is intercession: "We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us.... The Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will" (Rom. 8:26-27). Intercession implies not only receiving communication, but also communicating further on. It implies an intelligence, a concern, and a formal role. The Holy Spirit is not an impersonal power, but an intelligent and divine Helper who lives within us. God lives within us, and the Holy Spirit is God.

III. Worship

There are no scriptural examples of worshipping the Holy Spirit. Scripture talks about praying in the Spirit (Eph. 6:18), the fellowship of the Spirit (2 Cor. 13:14), and baptism in the name of the Spirit (Matt. 28:19). Although baptism, prayer and fellowship are involved in worship, none of these verses is a valid proof-text for worship of the Spirit.

As an opposite of worship, however, we note that the Spirit can be blasphemed (Matt. 12:31).

There are no scriptural examples of praying to the Holy Spirit. However, Scripture indicates that a human can talk to the Spirit (Acts 5:3). If this is done in reverence or request, it is, in effect, praying to the Spirit. If Christians are unable to articulate their desires and they want the Spirit to intercede for them (Rom. 8:26-27), they are praying, directly or indirectly, to the Holy Spirit. When we understand that the Holy Spirit has intelligence and fully represents God, we may ask the Spirit for help — never thinking that the Spirit is a separate being from God, but recognizing that the Spirit is the Hypostasis of God interceding for us.

Why then does Scripture say nothing about praying to the Spirit? Michael Green explains: "The Holy Spirit does not draw attention to himself. He is sent by the Father to glorify Jesus, to show Jesus' attractiveness, and not to take the centre of the stage" (I Believe in the Holy Spirit, p. 60). Or, as Geoffrey Bromiley puts it, "The Spirit is self-effacing" (p. 21).

Prayer or worship directed specifically to the Holy Spirit is not the scriptural norm, but we nonetheless worship the Spirit. When we worship God, we worship all aspects of God, including the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. A fourth-century theologian explained it this way: "The Spirit is jointly worshipped in God, when God is worshipped in the Spirit" (Ambrose, Of the Holy Spirit III.X.82, quoted in Oden, Life in the Spirit, p. 16). Whatever we say to the Spirit we are saying to God, and whatever we say to God we are saying to the Spirit.

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