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INDONESIA - The Unlawful, Land Of Lies

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Benny Kristanto

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If you need any proof of how endemically nasty and unlawful the Indonesian government and authorities are to this very day, research the case of Munir Said Thalib, an Indonesian human rights activist poisoned on an international Garuda flight to Amsterdam (where he was going to study International law). It seems clear the Indonesian authorities committed this murder as they tried to fool the Dutch he had died from a heart attack and now, despite the Indonesian President Yudhoyono's two year long promises to properly investigate this case, the Indonesian Government have let the murderer off and refused to allow a UN investigator to get involved. It is believed the Indonesian intelligence agency ordered Munir's death to protect Suharto; Suharto has recently been pardoned for his crimes by President Yudhoyono.

The claims cases made by Indonesian over Malaysian heritage is really understandable, yet again another Javanese cheap diversion to cover their crimes from their citizens.

The more facts I learn about Indonesia, the more I detest the Republic. God bless Munir Said Thalib!

to be continued...
Benny Kristanto

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Indonesia, land of lies (why you do not hear much about what goes on).

It is documented fact that even the Indonesian president lies to their own citizens and international community about important issues such as H5N1 bird flu (the Indonesian Government denied there was any until an Indonesian medic turned whistle blower). The media is 100% suppressed; journalists have been jailed for reporting things such as how the power military backed Golkar party offered cash to voters to elect their preferred candidate (now President Yudhoyono) and then refused to pay! The citizens of Indonesia dare not report what goes on because the much abused "Criminal Libel" law which means you can not say anything bad about anyone more powerful or connected than you without their permission; really, this is not a joke. Indonesia misrepresents it tsunami warning system (it is highly unlikely to help anyone in Bali.

There is evidence Indonesia even lies about how many foreign tourists arrive at its airports to try and make westerners feel good and safe in a sheep like way about going to Bali, when they should not.
Benny Kristanto

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Indonesia, unlawful state which should not be tolerated or even exist under international law.
Many people say Indonesia does not just act unlawfully and murderously both within and outside its national borders, the actual Republic of Indonesia is unlawful under international law. Some of the arguments are;

It is likely the Indonesian Government can not investigate the murder of Munir properly because a) they are the murderers and b) any honest report would probably result in the end of their unlawful government.

Munir is the tip of the iceberg. Thousands of people have been murdered, tortured and otherwise violated by the Indonesian Authorities who continue to do so while the duplicitous international community stands by and allows such crimes against humanity, protected by the sweeping under the carpet and whitewashing mechanisms of diplomacy, in return for trade involving Indonesia's vast mineral wealth, much of which is in West Papua (see: Foreign Government Policies). You see, Indonesia has not signed up to the important "first protocols" of the International Conventions on Human Rights, which means individuals can not make complaints with the UN appointed body but instead have to file them with the Department of Justice (yeh right) in Jakarta where they will get denied or buried. Human Rights crimes in Indonesia such as those committed (clearly documented) in East Timor in 1999 go nowhere fast. Should Indonesia agree to the first protocol which would allow fair and just cases to be conducted by highly regulated and trained 3rd parties, the Indonesian government would collapse under the weight of complaints and International pressure / sanctions. The fact that Indonesia so deliberately renages on its international guarantees make the government unlawful.
Benny Kristanto

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Indonesia was founded by a war criminal (Sukarno) who was an axis leader working with the Japanese. Indonesia's sole territorial claim to the region was for everything controlled by the Dutch (Dutch East Indies), not according to any ethnic or other legitimate claim. Sukarno should not have been recognized as leader of Indonesia (then just parts of Java and Sumatra) but tried for his crimes and the islands of the archipelago should have been restored to their former colonial states under international law.

Indonesia's formation was and therefore still is unlawful.
Benny Kristanto

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Indonesia was a federation of two republics, the nasty Jakarta based Republik Indonesia and neighboring Negara Indonesia Timor (Bali and everything to the East) which came about mostly because of US lead international wishes for them to do so and because the Negara Indonesia Timoracted in good faith believing the trading benefits made sense as long as their rights (e.g. to independence if they wanted it) were protected. Negara Indonesia Timor's rights were enshrined in the infamous “Round-Table Conference” at The Hague which all parties (including the Dutch) signed off on in 1949.

However, because Sukarno's ruthless and now well equipped (from Dutch weapons) was made the Federal Army and because individual states were excluded from having their own national armies, Sukarno was able to effect unlawful control over the entire federation. Despite the fact UN monitors agreed The South Moluccas had legally declared independence from the Republic Indonesia, Jakarta invaded the islands and described it as an "internal matter" while the international community stood by and watched.
Benny Kristanto

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The same too with West Papua, whose people of Melanesian decent are completely distinct and different genetically, culturally and historically from the rest of Indonesia. The Papuans had already achieved an independent country state aided by the Dutch but were forced into the Republik Indonesia by the US led UN on the basis they would be given a fair referendum on independence. This referendum was never held, just a sham involving a few islanders loyal to Jakarta; this is a recorded fact.
Benny Kristanto

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Oct 17, 2009
 
This is going to be interesting, I gonna post more & more of their garbage & lies!

FREE I N D O N E S I A FROM OPPRESSIONS!
LONG LIVE HUMANITY!!!
Truth Hurts

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EXCELLENT THREAD...LINK IT AND RELAY THIS TRUTH TO JAKARTA POST FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
Human Rights

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Benny Kristanto wrote:
The same too with West Papua, whose people of Melanesian decent are completely distinct and different genetically, culturally and historically from the rest of Indonesia. The Papuans had already achieved an independent country state aided by the Dutch but were forced into the Republik Indonesia by the US led UN on the basis they would be given a fair referendum on independence. This referendum was never held, just a sham involving a few islanders loyal to Jakarta; this is a recorded fact.
Benny..Lets move forward and fight for our rights!
Tak Takut

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Benny Kristanto wrote:
This is going to be interesting, I gonna post more & more of their garbage & lies!
FREE I N D O N E S I A FROM OPPRESSIONS!
LONG LIVE HUMANITY!!!
Negara pembunuh!

1. Peristiwa pembantaian terhadap lebih dari 500 orang (Sultan-sultan Melayu dan ahli warisnya di Sumatera, Sulawesi dan Kalimantan) oleh TNI dalam
dekade Desember 1945-1947, yang Sukarno sebut sebagai Revolusi sosial;
2. Pembantaian terhadap 20,000 bangsa Sunda oleh TNI semasa meletusnya Darul Islam antara 1950-1958;
3. Pembantaian terhadap 30,000 bangsa Acheh oleh TNI semasa meletusnya Darul Islam antara 1953-1961;
4. Pembantaian terhadap 30,000 bangsa Minangkabau, Riau dan Jambi oleh TNI semasa meletusnya PRRI antara 1957-1959;
5. Pembantaian terhadap 5,000 bangsa Melayu di Kalimantan oleh TNI semasa meletusnya Permesta PRRI tahun 1957-1958 oleh TNI;
6. Pembantaian terhadap 6,000 bangsa Papua oleh TNI sejak tahun 1962-63;
7. Pembantaian terhadap 1000,000 (1 juta) manusia dalam peristiwa G-30S/PKI tahun 1965 oleh TNI. Sebelumnya telah terjadi pembantaian terhadap 7000
orang Jawa dalam peristiwa PKI di Madiun, tahun 1948.
8. Pembantaian terhadap lebih dari 6,000 bangsa Papua oleh TNI sejak tahun 1969-sekarang;
9. Pembantaian terhadap lebih dari 450,000 (1/4% dari bangsa Timor Timur)oleh TNI antara tahun 1975-1998;
10. Pembantaian terhadap 20,000 bangsa Acheh antara tahun 1976-sekarang;
11. Pembantaian terhadap 900 jama'ah Masjid At-Taqwa Tanjung Priok oleh TNI tahun 1994;
12. Pembantaian terhadap 1,500 penduduk Talang sari, Palembang Sumatera, oleh TNI tahun 1995;
13. Pembantaian terhadap 39 penduduk Bima oleh TNI tahun 1994;
14. Pembantaian terhadap 1,600 penduduk bekas tahanan PKI Pulau Buru di Kedung Gemboh oleh TNI tahun 1994;
15. Pembantaian terhadap 700 penyokong PDI kubu Megawati di jln. Diponegoro, Jakarta oleh TNI pada 27 Maret 1997;
16. Pembantaian terhadap 1,300 bangsa Dayak di Kalimantan Barat dan Utara oleh TNI tahun 1998;
17. Pembantaian terhadap 200 orang penyokong PPP dan PDI di Kalimantan oleh TNI antara April-Mei tahun 1998;
18. Pembantaian terhadap 300 orang penyokong PPP dan PDI di Tasik Malaya oleh TNI yang menuntut reformasi, April tahun 1997;
19. Pembantaian terhadap 150 orang penyokong PPP dan PDI di Situbondo oleh TNI yang menuntut reformasi, April tahun 1997;
20. Pembantaian terhadap 100 orang penyokong PPP dan PDI di Sampang, Madura oleh TNI yang menuntut reformasi, April tahun 1997;
21. Pembantaian terhadap 1,500 orang pro reformasi di Jakarta oleh TNI yang menuntut reformasi, tahun 1998;
22. Pembantaian terhadap 3,000 bangsa Maluku oleh TNI yang menuntut merdeka awal tahun 2000
Alex Manuputty

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Truth Hurts wrote:
EXCELLENT THREAD...LINK IT AND RELAY THIS TRUTH TO JAKARTA POST FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
Thanx my friend, stupid javanese regime came this far & trying to sell us tons of their heritage garbage bla bla bla over Malaysian, but don't worry, we ain't buy it!
Alex Manuputty

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Oct 17, 2009
 
More, the hideous crimes over North Sulawesi, Papua, South Maluku & Balinese sufferings will be posted soon!
Alex Manuputty

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Me & Mr. Kristanto have some unfinished business, we have to go, so guys until the next post..

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Aussies Aussies Aussies

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Alex Manuputty wrote:
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Thanx my friend, stupid javanese regime came this far & trying to sell us tons of their heritage garbage bla bla bla over Malaysian, but don't worry, we ain't buy it!
Sometimes, when we are frustrated we loose our self control. At the spur of the moment, everything can happen. Ease the hostilities. IM AN AUSSIE EXPAT living in KL and love the Msian and Indon people!
Think positive and channel the energy for good use. UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN NEVER GET THE TRUTH
Human Rights

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Oct 17, 2009
 
NAFI...OPINIONS AND OPEN INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSIONS IF INTERESTED
Nafi Sahgem

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Human Rights : NAFI...OPINIONS AND OPEN INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSIONS IF INTERESTED

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Let us see what our neighbours have to say about your posts here first.

Could be interesting to read what they have to say if they come to this thread..
PpP

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Can Indonesian denied it?

It's so true the fact brought by Benny Kristanto and believe me soon they will start mocking him ^_^
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Oct 17, 2009
 
Opps correction

Can Indonesian deny it?@ Java ^_^
Anti Indon

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Oct 17, 2009
 
mantap!!! orang indon pasti terbirit2 ke jamban.
Benny Kristanto

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Hello again, where was I?
Benny Kristanto wrote:
The same too with West Papua, whose people of Melanesian decent are completely distinct and different genetically, culturally and historically from the rest of Indonesia. The Papuans had already achieved an independent country state aided by the Dutch but were forced into the Republik Indonesia by the US led UN on the basis they would be given a fair referendum on independence. This referendum was never held, just a sham involving a few islanders loyal to Jakarta; this is a recorded fact.
Oh yes, about Indonesia..the unlawful & lies of land..

Consequently Indonesia has never lived up to its signed International agreements and constitution and is therefore illegal.
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