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#1 Jul 27, 2012

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#2 Jul 27, 2012

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

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#3 Jul 27, 2012
khalyutsinirat

Toronto, Canada

#4 Jul 27, 2012
What happened to your own designs, why Grecian Doric Columns, why Grecian heroes???

You made a good start by erecting your own Bulgarian heroes.

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

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#5 Jul 27, 2012
khalyutsinirat wrote:
What happened to your own designs, why Grecian Doric Columns, why Grecian heroes???
You made a good start by erecting your own Bulgarian heroes.
?

IGNORANCE AND INFERIORITY CAN BE FOUGHT

The "Dorian invasion" is a concept devised by historians of Ancient Greece to explain the replacement of pre-classical dialects and traditions in southern Greece by the ones that prevailed in Classical Greece.

Classical scholars saw in the legend a HYPOTHETICALLY REAL event they termed the "Dorian invasion".

Despite nearly 200 years of investigation the historicity of the "Dorian invasion" has NEVER been established.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_invasion

"The theory of the Dorian invasion (based on Hdt. 9.26, followed by Thuc. I.12) is largely an INVENTION OF A NINETEENTH -CENTURY historiography, and is otherwise UNSUPPORTED by either archeological or linguistic evidence.
The Dorians are INVISIBLE ARCHEOLOGICALLY."
(Eugene Borza, Professor of Ancient History at the Pennsylvania State University.)
Ioannis

Athens, Greece

#6 Jul 27, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>?
IGNORANCE AND INFERIORITY CAN BE FOUGHT
The "Dorian invasion" is a concept devised by historians of Ancient Greece to explain the replacement of pre-classical dialects and traditions in southern Greece by the ones that prevailed in Classical Greece.
Classical scholars saw in the legend a HYPOTHETICALLY REAL event they termed the "Dorian invasion".
Despite nearly 200 years of investigation the historicity of the "Dorian invasion" has NEVER been established.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_invasion
"The theory of the Dorian invasion (based on Hdt. 9.26, followed by Thuc. I.12) is largely an INVENTION OF A NINETEENTH -CENTURY historiography, and is otherwise UNSUPPORTED by either archeological or linguistic evidence.
The Dorians are INVISIBLE ARCHEOLOGICALLY."
(Eugene Borza, Professor of Ancient History at the Pennsylvania State University.)
http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexand...

"Alexander's biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea states that Alexander the Great founded no less than seventy towns, which were important centers of the GREEK cultures in the East. By these foundations, the sage of Chaeronea implies, the Macedonian conqueror changed the nature of his oriental subjects from BARBARIANS into CIVILIZED people.

This in exaggerated. As far as we know, Alexander founded some twenty towns: REAL GREEK towns (poleis)-which Plutarch must have had in mind-, permanent military garrisons (katoikiai) and temporary military settlement (phrouria). Other towns were simply repopulated or just renamed."

Do not worry BARBARIAN-SKIES. We MACEDONIANS therefore HELLENES, will do what our ANCESTOR did.

WE WILL CIVILIZE YOU, SLAVSKIES!
poutsos for lie detector

Athens, Greece

#7 Jul 28, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>?
IGNORANCE AND INFERIORITY CAN BE FOUGHT
The "Dorian invasion" is a concept devised by historians of Ancient Greece to explain the replacement of pre-classical dialects and traditions in southern Greece by the ones that prevailed in Classical Greece.
Classical scholars saw in the legend a HYPOTHETICALLY REAL event they termed the "Dorian invasion".
Despite nearly 200 years of investigation the historicity of the "Dorian invasion" has NEVER been established.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_invasion
"The theory of the Dorian invasion (based on Hdt. 9.26, followed by Thuc. I.12) is largely an INVENTION OF A NINETEENTH -CENTURY historiography, and is otherwise UNSUPPORTED by either archeological or linguistic evidence.
The Dorians are INVISIBLE ARCHEOLOGICALLY."
(Eugene Borza, Professor of Ancient History at the Pennsylvania State University.)
the dorain invasion is wrongly reffered to as a invasion form out of Greece
IN reality the Dorian invasion refers to the invasion of this Greek tribe from north greece to south greece. Some modern authors and propagandists use this to wrongly prove that greeks werent autochthonous and invaded Greece. But the autochthonous origin of Greeks is proved by isocratis and others
samostojna MK

Curtin, Australia

#8 Jul 28, 2012
khalyutsinirat wrote:
What happened to your own designs, why Grecian Doric Columns, why Grecian heroes???
You made a good start by erecting your own Bulgarian heroes.
You think Greeks creted columns, or Parthemon?, or anything ancient?
They did not. And You do not have that right to this day, neighbour, dear.
The ancients architects are of Macedonian blood line.
The Mikenians. Macedonians have more right to all ancient
crup, you Greeks are so proud of. You stile, but we inherit from our ancestors. Yet we let you ejoy, so far. But not longer. We seek of your arogance.
Bulgars, hah, now there is a nation of imbasils. Macedonian city of
Sofija is build by Macedonians. Catedral St. Sofija, we build it, and it was finished, before Mongols invasion.
You see how inviders ruin everything Macedonian. Just like Greek invasion and destruction in Macedonia.
If you do not know that, you are not Greek, or Macedonian who lives in Greece. I don't know who and what you are. I'll live that desision to you.
FILIP II REINCARNATED

Macedonia

#9 Jul 28, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
<quoted text>
You think Greeks creted columns, or Parthemon?, or anything ancient?
They did not. And You do not have that right to this day, neighbour, dear.
The ancients architects are of Macedonian blood line.
The Mikenians. Macedonians have more right to all ancient
crup, you Greeks are so proud of. You stile, but we inherit from our ancestors. Yet we let you ejoy, so far. But not longer. We seek of your arogance.
Bulgars, hah, now there is a nation of imbasils. Macedonian city of
Sofija is build by Macedonians. Catedral St. Sofija, we build it, and it was finished, before Mongols invasion.
You see how inviders ruin everything Macedonian. Just like Greek invasion and destruction in Macedonia.
If you do not know that, you are not Greek, or Macedonian who lives in Greece. I don't know who and what you are. I'll live that desision to you.
So-called "greex":

Ex-PRIME MINISTER: Kostas Karamanlis, former surname: Kalayciouglu (Turk from Asia Minor):

Earlier Karamanlis
"Karamanlis's forefathers lived in Karaman, Turkey. The family's former (Turkish) surname was Kalaycioglu. When the family left Turkey, they changed their surname into 'Karamanlis'."
(Data recently removed from Wikipedia)

But helpfully there's "View history" button, et voila - Karamanlis turned back TURK again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...


ACTUAL PRESIDENT: Karolos Papoulias, born June 4, 1929 in Voština (renamed Pogoniani), Epir, is the current Albanian president of Greece. His ancestors changed the name and religion some 100 years ago.
He is the son of Major General Gregorios Papoulias and grandson of SULEIMAN PAPULIA who is known being related to Tahir Papulia, an Albanian dervenaga from 1821.
His grandfather from his mother's side was ZULFIKIAR, a wealthy Albanian landowner from Yanina.
Papulias also maintains his friendship with fellow Cham-Albanian classmate Fuat Botsi (now a retired actor) residing in Fieri, Albania.

"History of the Greek Revolution" by Alexandros Sutsos
http://books.google.mk/books...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannina_Vilayet

Ex-FINANCE MINISTER: The journalist Mark Dragoumis questioned the origin of Venizelos' name, suggesting that E. Venizelos, or one of his ancestors, has changed his name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Venize...

And here it is - Venizelos 's real family name is TURKIOZOGLOU:
"According to information since given to this columnist by an Asian Minor scholar specialising in the names of refugee families, the name change dates from shortly after 1922 when an ancestor of the PASOK politician - probably his grandfather - came to Greece from Asia Minor bearing the name of Turkiozoglou (ie "son of a song-writer" as Turkin means song in Turkish) "
http://www.athensnews.gr/old_issue/13255/1678...

Most probably a gypsy from Turkey, as the gypsies are usualy known of being musicians and blacksmiths.

SOLUNS MAYOR: Yannis Boutaris (Vlach)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiannis_Boutaris
Ioannis

Athens, Greece

#10 Jul 28, 2012
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
<quoted text>So-called "greex":
Ex-PRIME MINISTER: Kostas Karamanlis, former surname: Kalayciouglu (Turk from Asia Minor):
Earlier Karamanlis
"Karamanlis's forefathers lived in Karaman, Turkey. The family's former (Turkish) surname was Kalaycioglu. When the family left Turkey, they changed their surname into 'Karamanlis'."
(Data recently removed from Wikipedia)
But helpfully there's "View history" button, et voila - Karamanlis turned back TURK again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...
ACTUAL PRESIDENT: Karolos Papoulias, born June 4, 1929 in Voština (renamed Pogoniani), Epir, is the current Albanian president of Greece. His ancestors changed the name and religion some 100 years ago.
He is the son of Major General Gregorios Papoulias and grandson of SULEIMAN PAPULIA who is known being related to Tahir Papulia, an Albanian dervenaga from 1821.
His grandfather from his mother's side was ZULFIKIAR, a wealthy Albanian landowner from Yanina.
Papulias also maintains his friendship with fellow Cham-Albanian classmate Fuat Botsi (now a retired actor) residing in Fieri, Albania.
"History of the Greek Revolution" by Alexandros Sutsos
http://books.google.mk/books...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannina_Vilayet
Ex-FINANCE MINISTER: The journalist Mark Dragoumis questioned the origin of Venizelos' name, suggesting that E. Venizelos, or one of his ancestors, has changed his name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Venize...
And here it is - Venizelos 's real family name is TURKIOZOGLOU:
"According to information since given to this columnist by an Asian Minor scholar specialising in the names of refugee families, the name change dates from shortly after 1922 when an ancestor of the PASOK politician - probably his grandfather - came to Greece from Asia Minor bearing the name of Turkiozoglou (ie "son of a song-writer" as Turkin means song in Turkish) "
http://www.athensnews.gr/old_issue/13255/1678...
Most probably a gypsy from Turkey, as the gypsies are usualy known of being musicians and blacksmiths.
SOLUNS MAYOR: Yannis Boutaris (Vlach)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiannis_Boutaris
http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexand...

"Alexander's biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea states that Alexander the Great founded no less than seventy towns, which were important centers of the GREEK cultures in the East. By these foundations, the sage of Chaeronea implies, the Macedonian conqueror changed the nature of his oriental subjects from BARBARIANS into CIVILIZED people.

This in exaggerated. As far as we know, Alexander founded some twenty towns: REAL GREEK towns (poleis)-which Plutarch must have had in mind-, permanent military garrisons (katoikiai) and temporary military settlement (phrouria). Other towns were simply repopulated or just renamed."

Do not worry BARBARIAN-SKIES. We MACEDONIANS therefore HELLENES, will do what our ANCESTOR did.

WE WILL CIVILIZE YOU, SLAVSKIES!
poutsos for lie detector

Athens, Greece

#11 Jul 28, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
<quoted text>
You think Greeks creted columns, or Parthemon?, or anything ancient?
They did not. And You do not have that right to this day, neighbour, dear.
The ancients architects are of Macedonian blood line.
The Mikenians. Macedonians have more right to all ancient
crup, you Greeks are so proud of. You stile, but we inherit from our ancestors. Yet we let you ejoy, so far. But not longer. We seek of your arogance.
Bulgars, hah, now there is a nation of imbasils. Macedonian city of
Sofija is build by Macedonians. Catedral St. Sofija, we build it, and it was finished, before Mongols invasion.
You see how inviders ruin everything Macedonian. Just like Greek invasion and destruction in Macedonia.
If you do not know that, you are not Greek, or Macedonian who lives in Greece. I don't know who and what you are. I'll live that desision to you.
NOW MYCAENS ARE NOT GREEK ?ehehhehe
go back to mongolia fken invaders

And since when Myceaens lost their Greeknes ?
When was their Greekness ever doubted ?
didnt they speak Greek ? didnt they worship same Gods?
How come all survived ancient Myceaen words still exist in modern Greek language? In fact Mycaeans never called themselves other than Achaeans. The term Mycaeans was placed on them by others

Linguistic analysis of Linear B texts ties the Mycenaean language to Greek dialects of subsequent ages, but to the Ionian, Attic, and Aeolian dialects rather than to the Achaean dialects of the Classical Age. The first are thus derivates of Mycenaean, while the second are similar to it but belonged to a group already distinct from Mycenaean in the Late Bronze Age.

Emeperor Michail of Byzantine agreed to let SLAVS settle at 600AD if became christians & protect Greek borders of Byzantium, he even sent Greek monks Kyrillos & Methodios to give them an alphabet. Slav leader Ratsilav agreed to all
This was the biggest mistake that Greeks committed, allowing these bastards to settle in Greek lands!
LOOK NOW WHAT HAPPENED!
FIRST WE OFFER HOSPITALITY & THE NEXT THING U KNOW, THEY ASK FOR OUR LANDS!!
INCREDIBLE!
FOKEN SHITSKIS SHOULD BE DEPORTED BACK TO MONGOLIA

ALL ANCIENT MACEDONS SAID THEY WERE PROUD GREEKS AND HAPPY TO HAVE GREEK BLOOD

SCOPIS SPEAK BULGARIAN AND R NEWCOMERS TO THE BALKANS

all is proven NEVER DOUBTED B4
Born free - Molon lave

Adelaide, Australia

#12 Jul 28, 2012
These buildings are all new.......what a laugh there are no originals in FYROM...They are all fabricated like their history.....my god I am still laughing over this....they are copying the Greeks. HOLY SHIT!!!!!! How stupid are these people???
Born free - Molon lave

Adelaide, Australia

#13 Jul 28, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
<quoted text>
You think Greeks creted columns, or Parthemon?, or anything ancient?
They did not. And You do not have that right to this day, neighbour, dear.
The ancients architects are of Macedonian blood line.
The Mikenians. Macedonians have more right to all ancient
crup, you Greeks are so proud of. You stile, but we inherit from our ancestors. Yet we let you ejoy, so far. But not longer. We seek of your arogance.
Bulgars, hah, now there is a nation of imbasils. Macedonian city of
Sofija is build by Macedonians. Catedral St. Sofija, we build it, and it was finished, before Mongols invasion.
You see how inviders ruin everything Macedonian. Just like Greek invasion and destruction in Macedonia.
If you do not know that, you are not Greek, or Macedonian who lives in Greece. I don't know who and what you are. I'll live that desision to you.
What about the 10000 other temples scattered across the Hellenic world????

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

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#14 Jul 28, 2012
Macedonia: Building Begins On Four Tall Towers In Skopje

http://www.eurasiareview.com/17072012-macedon...
Ioannis

Athens, Greece

#15 Jul 28, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
Macedonia: Building Begins On Four Tall Towers In Skopje
http://www.eurasiareview.com/17072012-macedon...
Fake. As EVERYTHING in VARDARSKA BANOVINA...

http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexand...

"Alexander's biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea states that Alexander the Great founded no less than seventy towns, which were important centers of the GREEK cultures in the East. By these foundations, the sage of Chaeronea implies, the Macedonian conqueror changed the nature of his oriental subjects from BARBARIANS into CIVILIZED people.

This in exaggerated. As far as we know, Alexander founded some twenty towns: REAL GREEK towns (poleis)-which Plutarch must have had in mind-, permanent military garrisons (katoikiai) and temporary military settlement (phrouria). Other towns were simply repopulated or just renamed."

Do not worry BARBARIAN-SKIES. We MACEDONIANS therefore HELLENES, will do what our ANCESTOR did.

WE WILL CIVILIZE YOU, SLAVSKIES!
Mallen

Tervel, Bulgaria

#16 Jul 28, 2012
Ioannis wrote:
<quoted text>
Fake. As EVERYTHING in VARDARSKA BANOVINA...
http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexand...
"Alexander's biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea states that Alexander the Great founded no less than seventy towns, which were important centers of the GREEK cultures in the East. By these foundations, the sage of Chaeronea implies, the Macedonian conqueror changed the nature of his oriental subjects from BARBARIANS into CIVILIZED people.
This in exaggerated. As far as we know, Alexander founded some twenty towns: REAL GREEK towns (poleis)-which Plutarch must have had in mind-, permanent military garrisons (katoikiai) and temporary military settlement (phrouria). Other towns were simply repopulated or just renamed."
Do not worry BARBARIAN-SKIES. We MACEDONIANS therefore HELLENES, will do what our ANCESTOR did.
WE WILL CIVILIZE YOU, SLAVSKIES!
Delusional!!! What is an Albano-Turko-Vlacho-Gypso-Mutt like you doing in here?

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

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#18 Jul 28, 2012
Ioannis

Athens, Greece

#19 Jul 28, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my- images/189/dsc02355o.jpg/sr=1
Fake-ski. Like EVERYTHING in VARDARSKA BANOVINA...

Real-SKI.(for SLAVS. To understand):

http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexand...

"Alexander's biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea states that Alexander the Great founded no less than seventy towns, which were important centers of the GREEK cultures in the East. By these foundations, the sage of Chaeronea implies, the Macedonian conqueror changed the nature of his oriental subjects from BARBARIANS into CIVILIZED people.

This in exaggerated. As far as we know, Alexander founded some twenty towns: REAL GREEK towns (poleis)-which Plutarch must have had in mind-, permanent military garrisons (katoikiai) and temporary military settlement (phrouria). Other towns were simply repopulated or just renamed."

Do not worry BARBARIAN-SKIES. We MACEDONIANS therefore HELLENES, will do what our ANCESTOR did.

WE WILL CIVILIZE YOU, SLAVSKIES!
Mallen

Tervel, Bulgaria

#20 Jul 28, 2012
Ioannis wrote:
<quoted text>
Fake-ski. Like EVERYTHING in VARDARSKA BANOVINA...
Real-SKI.(for SLAVS. To understand):
http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexand...
"Alexander's biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea states that Alexander the Great founded no less than seventy towns, which were important centers of the GREEK cultures in the East. By these foundations, the sage of Chaeronea implies, the Macedonian conqueror changed the nature of his oriental subjects from BARBARIANS into CIVILIZED people.
This in exaggerated. As far as we know, Alexander founded some twenty towns: REAL GREEK towns (poleis)-which Plutarch must have had in mind-, permanent military garrisons (katoikiai) and temporary military settlement (phrouria). Other towns were simply repopulated or just renamed."
Do not worry BARBARIAN-SKIES. We MACEDONIANS therefore HELLENES, will do what our ANCESTOR did.
WE WILL CIVILIZE YOU, SLAVSKIES!
Delusional old man who thinks the Cold War is still going on!!! What is an Albano-Turko-Vlacho-Gypso-Mutt like you doing in here?

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

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