Macedonia & Achaia MAP
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the LION will ROAR

Australia

#1 Sep 8, 2008
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" And you became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you received the word in much affliction, with the joy of the Holy Spirit, so that you became an example to all the believers in Macedonia and in Achaia. For not only has the word of the Lord sounded forth from you in Macedonia and Achaia, but your faith in God has gone forth everywhere, so that we need not say anything. "
the LION will ROAR

Australia

#2 Sep 8, 2008
Roman Maps
These are two (of four) marble panel maps found in the ancient coliseum in Rome depicting the regions ruled by the four most prominent Roman rulers. Note the name “Macedonia” is clearly shown, also note that there is no “Greece” or “Hellas” present.
Photograph taken by Niki L. via Risto Stefov.

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STORI

Göteborg, Sweden

#3 Sep 8, 2008
I don´t know how the greeks even try to deny this.
the lie detector

Nonthaburi, Thailand

#4 Sep 8, 2008
im having a hard time finding greece anywhere prior to their fake french/english invention!!!!

i have been to rome to see the truth, but a greek will tell you this is fake, what, a fake 2300 year old map....back in your box greasy gayrecians.....MONARCHY

...of Bavarian and Danish origin.

FIRST HEAD OF STATE

'Ioannis Kapodistrias'...real name Giovanni Capo d'Istria (an Italian), of Venetian nobility residing in Corfu.

FIRST PRIME MINISTER

Josef Ludwig von Armansperg (a German), president of Otto's Privy Council.

CURRENT PRIME MINISTER

Kostas Karamanlis (an ethnic Vlach from Asia Minor).

LEGAL SYSTEM

Georg Ludwig von Maurer (a German), devised the modern Greek penal code and civil procedure.

NATIONAL FLAG

Blue, white colours and stripes (of Bavarian origin), and the cross (of Danish origin)...chosen to honor the fact that the modern Greek Royal family is...of Bavarian and Danish origin.

NATIONAL ANTHEM

Written by 'Nikolaos Mantzaros'...real name Niccoló Manzaro (an Italian), of Venetian nobility residing in Corfu.

NATIONAL DRESS

The Fustanella (Albanian).

NATIONAL MUSIC
Rembetiko - Rembetiku (Turkish), Anatolian peasant music.

NATIONAL DANCE

Zorba's dance...created in 1964 by Mexican American actor Anthony Quinn (Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca) for the movie 'Zorba the Greek' where Quinn, in an improvised effort to portray a heavily intoxicated individual attempting to dance, unknowingly created modern Greece's national dance.

CUISINE

'Dolmades'- Dolma (middle eastern).
'Tzatziki'- Cacik (Turkish).
'Gyros/Yeeros'- Döner kebab (Turkish).
'Keftedes'- Kofta (Turkish, middle eastern).
'Loukoumades'- Lokum (Turkish).
'Baklava'- Baklava (Turkish).
'Greek Coffee'- Turkish Coffee (Turkish).
'Ouzo'- Arak (Turkish).
ALEXANDER THE GREAT GREEK

Australia

#5 Sep 8, 2008
the lie detector wrote:
im having a hard time finding greece anywhere prior to their fake french/english invention!!!!
i have been to rome to see the truth, but a greek will tell you this is fake, what, a fake 2300 year old map....back in your box greasy gayrecians.....MONARCHY
...of Bavarian and Danish origin.
FIRST HEAD OF STATE
'Ioannis Kapodistrias'...real name Giovanni Capo d'Istria (an Italian), of Venetian nobility residing in Corfu.
FIRST PRIME MINISTER
Josef Ludwig von Armansperg (a German), president of Otto's Privy Council.
CURRENT PRIME MINISTER
Kostas Karamanlis (an ethnic Vlach from Asia Minor).
LEGAL SYSTEM
Georg Ludwig von Maurer (a German), devised the modern Greek penal code and civil procedure.
NATIONAL FLAG
Blue, white colours and stripes (of Bavarian origin), and the cross (of Danish origin)...chosen to honor the fact that the modern Greek Royal family is...of Bavarian and Danish origin.
NATIONAL ANTHEM
Written by 'Nikolaos Mantzaros'...real name Niccoló Manzaro (an Italian), of Venetian nobility residing in Corfu.
NATIONAL DRESS
The Fustanella (Albanian).
NATIONAL MUSIC
Rembetiko - Rembetiku (Turkish), Anatolian peasant music.
NATIONAL DANCE
Zorba's dance...created in 1964 by Mexican American actor Anthony Quinn (Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca) for the movie 'Zorba the Greek' where Quinn, in an improvised effort to portray a heavily intoxicated individual attempting to dance, unknowingly created modern Greece's national dance.
CUISINE
'Dolmades'- Dolma (middle eastern).
'Tzatziki'- Cacik (Turkish).
'Gyros/Yeeros'- Döner kebab (Turkish).
'Keftedes'- Kofta (Turkish, middle eastern).
'Loukoumades'- Lokum (Turkish).
'Baklava'- Baklava (Turkish).
'Greek Coffee'- Turkish Coffee (Turkish).
'Ouzo'- Arak (Turkish).
You know what you should do slav?! You should go and get a bulgarian passport just like the former PM of that garbage tip 3rd world barefoot peasant country you come from FYROM. Do you need me to remind you slav - Ljubco Georgievski declared he was bulgarian and became a Bulgarian citizen. Now if you own leaders are coming out and declaring they are bulgarian then what does that say about the barefoot poor hungry field working peasants of FYROM? They must be bulgars too right!! Hahaha here let me remind you slav of who your former PM was and who you are as well
Ljubco Georgievski is a poet and politician from the Republic of Macedonia and former Prime Minister and Vice President of the country. In 1999 he was listed in the Guinness Book of Records as being the world's youngest Prime Minister. He was 32 years old when he took office
Move to Bulgaria
On July 14, 2006 it was announced that Ljubčo Georgievski applied for and was granted Bulgarian citizenship on the basis that his parents are Bulgarians and that he has a Bulgarian national identity.[1] This was confirmed by an official of the Bulgarian President's Office.[2][3][4] In the summer of 2007 he began his participation in Bulgarian politics[5] as a member of the initiator's committee for nomination of Kiril Pendev as candidate for mayor's post in the city of Blagoevgrad in Bulgarian part of Macedonia, supported by the Citizens for European Development of Bulgaria (known as GERB), a political movement led by Sofia's mayor Boyko Borisov.[6]
Now how do you feel knowing you are Bulgarian?
You should feel proud. At least Bulgaria is in NATO and the EU and have a long history. I cant say the same about FYROM lol
History hmmm since 1991 lol
hahaha
Happy independence day lol
Did you even fight for independence lol
Welease Wodger

Australia

#6 Sep 8, 2008
ALEXANDER THE GREAT GREEK wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what you should do slav?! You should go and get a bulgarian passport just like the former PM of that garbage tip 3rd world barefoot peasant country you come from FYROM. Do you need me to remind you slav - Ljubco Georgievski declared he was bulgarian and became a Bulgarian citizen. Now if you own leaders are coming out and declaring they are bulgarian then what does that say about the barefoot poor hungry field working peasants of FYROM? They must be bulgars too right!! Hahaha here let me remind you slav of who your former PM was and who you are as well
Ljubco Georgievski is a poet and politician from the Republic of Macedonia and former Prime Minister and Vice President of the country. In 1999 he was listed in the Guinness Book of Records as being the world's youngest Prime Minister. He was 32 years old when he took office
Move to Bulgaria
On July 14, 2006 it was announced that Ljub&#269;o Georgievski applied for and was granted Bulgarian citizenship on the basis that his parents are Bulgarians and that he has a Bulgarian national identity.[1] This was confirmed by an official of the Bulgarian President's Office.[2][3][4] In the summer of 2007 he began his participation in Bulgarian politics[5] as a member of the initiator's committee for nomination of Kiril Pendev as candidate for mayor's post in the city of Blagoevgrad in Bulgarian part of Macedonia, supported by the Citizens for European Development of Bulgaria (known as GERB), a political movement led by Sofia's mayor Boyko Borisov.[6]
Now how do you feel knowing you are Bulgarian?
You should feel proud. At least Bulgaria is in NATO and the EU and have a long history. I cant say the same about FYROM lol
History hmmm since 1991 lol
hahaha
Happy independence day lol
Did you even fight for independence lol
LOLSKI!!

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#7 Sep 9, 2008
yes macedonia hepirus achaia thrace ALL PARTS OF GREECE

IN THIS MAP U CAN SEE ITALY AND SICILY , DOES IT MEAN SICILY ISNT OR WASNT ITALY ??

JUST COZ ROMANS PREFERRED TO MENTION ONLY THESE STATES OF GREECE ,IT DIDNT MEAN that THESSALY PELLOPONISOS ATTICA CRETE etc didnt exist

GREECE DIDNT EXIST B4 1830 ? hahahahah
stinky FYROMIANS ever heard of MAGNA GRECIA=GREAT GREECE ??????????
3000 YEARS ago??

Magna Græcia (Latin for "Greater Greece," Megalê Hellas/&#924;&#949; &#947;&#940;&#955; &#951; &#7961;&#955;&#955 ;&#940;&#962; in Greek) is the name of the area including Southern Italy and Sicily that was colonised by Greek settlers in the eighth century BCE, who brought with them the lasting imprint of their Hellenic civilization.

Greek Macedonian state was a part of Magna Grecia

the correct QUESTION IS WHERE WERE FOKEN FYROMAINS WHEN THESE MAPS WERE DRAWN ?????

hehhehehh in Mongolia living on trees eating grass fukin goats !!!

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#8 Sep 9, 2008
U FOKEN SHITSKI ACCUSE GREEKS OF LENDING FOREIGN THINGS ???
haahhahahahaha ACCUSATIONS COMING FROM professional robbers, the FYROMIANS ????
GREEKS INVENTED PRACTICALLY almost EVERYTHING AND GAVE THE WHOLE UNIVERSE MILLIONS OF THINGS
WE R ENTITLED TO LEND SOME FOREIGN.

GREEKS HAD FOREIGN KINGS FOREIGN FLAG ETC..so what??
TODAY OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE GREEK ROYALS [SPAIN DANMARK SERBIA ETC] SOME COUNTRIES HAVE GREEK MINISTERS & PRIME MINISTER IN USA DOUKAKIS STEFANOPOULOS NEARLY MADE IT BEING PRESIDENT
IN THE FUTURE FOR SURE U WILL SEE A GREEK PRESIDENT even in USA

Let me ask u, does IMPORTED kings, prime ministers a flag makes u lose ur nationality ??
DID SPANIANS AMERICANS DANISH SERBS etc BECOME GREEK coz of their GREEK politicians or queens?

Baklavas is a GREEK WORD & the recipe is mentioned in ancient texts as kopton "thin layers of baked pastry were in between smashed nuts and all is poured by honey"
Dont tell me now that turks existed in ancient years ! They were still in mongolia.While Greeks were eating Baklavas, turks were still living on trees in Mongolia eating grass & fuking goats.
The Ottoman Sultan when conquered the Greeks was impressed by two things. Greek sweets & byzantine Greek music

haha HOW STUPID CAN SOME ONE BE??
DO COLOURS HAVE TRADEMARKS AND HAVE EXCLUSIVE OWNERSHIP?
FOUSTANELLA IS GREEK ,the word is totally Greek
BOUZOUKI IS GREEK
COFFEE IS NEITHER GREEK OR TURKISH-ITS BRAZILIAN

Loukoumi is a greek word for a Greek sweet.
Turks cut the "i" at the end and made it lokoum !!
In ancient Greece Loukoulos was known for the famous feasts he had. When someone eats well, we say, he had a "lokoulio gevma' meaning "rich feast"
And the sweets or any tasty food is named loukoumi.
Thats how this particular sweet was named.
Turks in ancient years didnt exist in this region
The Ottoman Sultan when conquered the Greeks was impressed by two things. Greek sweets & byzantine Greek music

ouzo 100% greek
tzatziki 100% greek
gyros a greek word ,means turning round & round
keftes dolmas maybe turkish, but then again ,TURKS USE MUCH MORE GREEK THINGS THAN WE USE TURKISH.

Zorbas dance, zeimpekiko comes from ancient times
A DANCE TO HONOR ZEUS BY THE BACHAS in ancient Greece it was called ZUESBACHIKO
Turks came thousands years later & watched the Greeks dance it & turkized the name to zeibek !!

karamanlis 100% Greek with Macedonian roots
Ioannis Kapodistrias 100% GREEK

AND ALL THESE ACCUSATIONS COMING FROM FYROMIANS ????
the champions in claiming others possessions hahahahaah
TELL ME ANYTHING THAT IS FYROMIAN AND NOT STOLEN,,,,,ANYTHING ....CAN U???????? hahahahaa

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#9 Sep 9, 2008
AS SOME ONE CAN SEE IT IS OBVIOUS THAT FYROM AREA WAS NOT A PART OF MACEDONIAN STATE OF ROMAN EMPIRE !!!! NEITHER WAS APART OF ORIGINAL ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIAN STATE !!!!!!@#@!

ooouaahahahhahahahahaaoouaaaha hahahahahahahah

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#10 Sep 9, 2008
RealMacedonianGR wrote:
AS SOME ONE CAN SEE IT IS OBVIOUS THAT FYROM AREA WAS NOT A PART OF MACEDONIAN STATE OF ROMAN EMPIRE !!!! NEITHER WAS APART OF ORIGINAL ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIAN STATE !!!!!!@#@!
ooouaahahahhahahahahaaoouaaaha hahahahahahahah
good for us that geece did not exist before 1830.....either nor geek-macedonian state

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#11 Sep 9, 2008
RealMacedonianGR wrote:
yes macedonia hepirus achaia thrace ALL PARTS OF GREECE
IN THIS MAP U CAN SEE ITALY AND SICILY , DOES IT MEAN SICILY ISNT OR WASNT ITALY ??
JUST COZ ROMANS PREFERRED TO MENTION ONLY THESE STATES OF GREECE ,IT DIDNT MEAN that THESSALY PELLOPONISOS ATTICA CRETE etc didnt exist
GREECE DIDNT EXIST B4 1830 ? hahahahah
stinky FYROMIANS ever heard of MAGNA GRECIA=GREAT GREECE ??????????
3000 YEARS ago??
Magna Græcia (Latin for "Greater Greece," Megalê Hellas/&#924;&#949; &#947;&#940;&#955; &#951; &#7961;&#955;&#955 ;&#940;&#962; in Greek) is the name of the area including Southern Italy and Sicily that was colonised by Greek settlers in the eighth century BCE, who brought with them the lasting imprint of their Hellenic civilization.
Greek Macedonian state was a part of Magna Grecia
the correct QUESTION IS WHERE WERE FOKEN FYROMAINS WHEN THESE MAPS WERE DRAWN ?????
hehhehehh in Mongolia living on trees eating grass fukin goats !!!
idiot the maps shows the provinces of the empire, and as u remember no province named "geece,hellass,yunanistan " existed into the roman empire......

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#12 Sep 9, 2008
RealMacedonianGR wrote:
GREEKS INVENTED PRACTICALLY almost EVERYTHING AND GAVE THE WHOLE UNIVERSE MILLIONS OF THINGS
WE R ENTITLED TO LEND SOME FOREIGN.
mythology.....
ALEXANDER THE GREAT GREEK

Stanmore, Australia

#13 Sep 9, 2008
LouWeed wrote:
<quoted text>
mythology.....
tRYING TO DENY THAT WE EXISTED (WHICH IS YOUR SICK AND TWISTED PROPAGANDA) will never make you macedonian.

You should get a bulgarian passport like your former Prime Minister of FYROM Ljubco Georgievski. He came out and declared he was Bulgarian and became a bulgarian citizen. Since you the peasants of FYROM are Bulgarian as your leader, you should do the same and get a bulgarian passport. Maybe that will be the only way for your country FYROM to get in NATO and EU lol

Remember FYROM......since 1992 lol

Long history to be proud of lol
Nick the Greek

Ayr, UK

#14 Sep 9, 2008
LouWeed wrote:
<quoted text>
mythology.....
LouWeed......I know that you posess the intellectual capability to converse at a much deeper level.

Your post's are usually less than 10 words per sentence,therefor lack depth and understanding!

What is it that you wish to tell us,through the limited choice of words that you use.

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#15 Sep 9, 2008
LouWeed wrote:
<quoted text>
good for us that geece did not exist before 1830.....either nor geek-macedonian state
yes macedonia hepirus achaia thrace ALL PARTS OF GREECE

IN THIS MAP U CAN SEE ITALY AND SICILY , DOES IT MEAN SICILY ISNT OR WASNT ITALY ??

JUST COZ ROMANS PREFERRED TO MENTION ONLY THESE STATES OF GREECE ,IT DIDNT MEAN that THESSALY PELLOPONISOS ATTICA CRETE etc didnt exist

GREECE DIDNT EXIST B4 1830 ? hahahahah
stinky FYROMIANS ever heard of MAGNA GRECIA=GREAT GREECE ??????????
3000 YEARS ago??

Magna Græcia (Latin for "Greater Greece," Megalê Hellas/&#924;&#949; &#947;&#940;&#955; &#951; &#7961;&#955;&#955 ;&#940;&#962; in Greek) is the name of the area including Southern Italy and Sicily that was colonised by Greek settlers in the eighth century BCE, who brought with them the lasting imprint of their Hellenic civilization.

Greek Macedonian state was a part of Magna Grecia

the correct QUESTION IS WHERE WERE FOKEN FYROMAINS WHEN THESE MAPS WERE DRAWN ?????

hehhehehh in Mongolia living on trees eating grass fukin goats !!!

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#16 Sep 9, 2008
LouWeed wrote:
<quoted text>
idiot the maps shows the provinces of the empire, and as u remember no province named "geece,hellass,yunanistan " existed into the roman empire......
So according to ur sick logic these ROMAN MAPS ARE A DEFINITION OF WHAT EXISTED AND WHAT NOT ???

hahahahahaha poor debater

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#17 Sep 9, 2008
RealMacedonianGR wrote:
<quoted text>
So according to ur sick logic these ROMAN MAPS ARE A DEFINITION OF WHAT EXISTED AND WHAT NOT ???
hahahahahaha poor debater
hahahaha, who said that?

no, i do say geece never existed till 1830, these maps only show what i told u many times, in ancient times never a geek state or kingdom existed, not even as province into the roman and ottoman empire......

i do not need roman maps to know that geece never existed till 1830........but if u can "read" between the lines ur brain will start immediately

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#18 Sep 9, 2008
ALEXANDER THE GREAT GREEK wrote:
<quoted text>
tRYING TO DENY THAT WE EXISTED (WHICH IS YOUR SICK AND TWISTED PROPAGANDA) will never make you macedonian.
You should get a bulgarian passport like your former Prime Minister of FYROM Ljubco Georgievski. He came out and declared he was Bulgarian and became a bulgarian citizen. Since you the peasants of FYROM are Bulgarian as your leader, you should do the same and get a bulgarian passport. Maybe that will be the only way for your country FYROM to get in NATO and EU lol
Remember FYROM......since 1992 lol
Long history to be proud of lol
nice historical facts....

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#19 Sep 9, 2008
Nick the Greek wrote:
<quoted text>LouWeed......I know that you posess the intellectual capability to converse at a much deeper level.
Your post's are usually less than 10 words per sentence,therefor lack depth and understanding!
What is it that you wish to tell us,through the limited choice of words that you use.
yeah ur right, i know i am not a intellectual guy...but i do not care, because as rockstar and pothead with excellent music skills i dont give a FACK!

(pS>more than ten words now?start counting hellASS)

“NICE BOYs DONT PLAY ROCK&ROLL”

Since: Oct 07

Peiting/Obb.

#20 Sep 9, 2008
RealMacedonianGR wrote:
<quoted text>
yes macedonia hepirus achaia thrace ALL PARTS OF GREECE
do u mean as geographic description?

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