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Macedonian History is better then Greek History

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“Ziv Gospodar”

Since: Oct 08

Trinity, State of

#1 Nov 13, 2012
Why are Greeks so jealous about my Macedonian history ?

Why do Greeks wish they were a Macedonian like me ?

Can Greece survive without Macedonia ?

Why are Greeks not happy about being Ethiopian/Albanian/Bulgarian/V lach/Gypsies ?
Bronzilla

Thessaloníki, Greece

#2 Nov 13, 2012
Mehmeto-Goranic Monkey

Aberdeen, UK

#3 Nov 13, 2012
Abdul-Monkey

Since: Oct 12

Athens, Greece

#4 Nov 13, 2012
Blagoja wrote:
Why are Greeks so jealous about my Macedonian history ?
Why do Greeks wish they were a Macedonian like me ?
Can Greece survive without Macedonia ?
Why are Greeks not happy about being Ethiopian/Albanian/Bulgarian/V lach/Gypsies ?
The answer is very simple dear Vardarski.
Greece survided for 4000 years and has no need of a fake neighbour to support her.
You are free to say as many lies you wish. As you have realized so far history wont change in order to satisfy your fake dreams.
So keep dreaming and lying. Everybody is laughing at you!!!
Dejan

Macedonia

#5 Nov 13, 2012
Bronzilla wrote:
Slava brat Pokakanovski
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Greece

#7 Nov 13, 2012
Blagoja wrote:
Why are Greeks so jealous about my Macedonian history ?
Why do Greeks wish they were a Macedonian like me ?
Can Greece survive without Macedonia ?
Why are Greeks not happy about being Ethiopian/Albanian/Bulgarian/V lach/Gypsies ?
SkopianoBulgare "thinks" that he is a Macedonian!
http://youtu.be/mIRe5tnqRKM
Macedonian history is part of Greek history!
You are joke nation.
samostojna MK

Canberra, Australia

#8 Nov 14, 2012
Why Greeks so fule of Mad racizam against Macedonians? Yet they boast about Macedonian antiquity. We let you come to us and let you live with us, even tolerated your slavery castoms, but we could not alow you to imprizon our people in slavery, so we fought against you and your slave army.
And today historians lie, by exsajuration, that Greeks fought against Greek states?
Stupid historians, stupid Greeks.
You are Nacy posesiv nation of Nimrods.

Since: Oct 12

Athens, Greece

#9 Nov 14, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
Why Greeks so fule of Mad racizam against Macedonians? Yet they boast about Macedonian antiquity. We let you come to us and let you live with us, even tolerated your slavery castoms, but we could not alow you to imprizon our people in slavery, so we fought against you and your slave army.
And today historians lie, by exsajuration, that Greeks fought against Greek states?
Stupid historians, stupid Greeks.
You are Nacy posesiv nation of Nimrods.
You let us come to you and live with you?
Hahahahahahahahaahahhahaahhaha hahahhhahaahaha
P.S Stop posting comments because you make fool15 of yourself!!!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Dráma, Greece

#10 Nov 14, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
Why Greeks so fule of Mad racizam against Macedonians? Yet they boast about Macedonian antiquity. We let you come to us and let you live with us, even tolerated your slavery castoms, but we could not alow you to imprizon our people in slavery, so we fought against you and your slave army.
And today historians lie, by exsajuration, that Greeks fought against Greek states?
Stupid historians, stupid Greeks.
You are Nacy posesiv nation of Nimrods.
http://youtu.be/mIRe5tnqRKM
The English historian is very correct!
You are ridiculous and fake nation!
Macedonians born Greek!
Semitic Greek gypsies

Europe

#11 Nov 14, 2012
Lord Byron

For Byron, "Greece" was not so much a territory as an idea.
He would have considered Albania to be "Greece" at a time when the largest Albanian city was Ianinna (then an important Ottoman center of administration and now the regional capital of Epirus) and Albanian was spoken as far south as the then-small town of Athens. The Greece that achieved independence was only a fraction of the size that it is now, after a century of expansion and attempted land-grabbing (the two Macedonian Wars of 1912 and 1913), and the forced "assimilation" of Slavs and Albanians, whose languages are still suppressed in the "Hellenic Democracy" that is part of the European Union.

Since: Oct 12

Athens, Greece

#12 Nov 14, 2012
Semitic Greek gypsies wrote:
Lord Byron
For Byron, "Greece" was not so much a territory as an idea.
He would have considered Albania to be "Greece" at a time when the largest Albanian city was Ianinna (then an important Ottoman center of administration and now the regional capital of Epirus) and Albanian was spoken as far south as the then-small town of Athens. The Greece that achieved independence was only a fraction of the size that it is now, after a century of expansion and attempted land-grabbing (the two Macedonian Wars of 1912 and 1913), and the forced "assimilation" of Slavs and Albanians, whose languages are still suppressed in the "Hellenic Democracy" that is part of the European Union.
Show us a link lobotomized Mother Tereza!
Semitic Greek gypsies

Europe

#13 Nov 14, 2012
Hey gypsie

can't you Google

Lord Byron
??????????

Are you so handicapped??
Or dosnt lord byron exist in your fake church history??

Hehehehe

stupid propaganda kleptomanic seaGypsies

Since: Oct 12

Athens, Greece

#14 Nov 14, 2012
Semitic Greek gypsies wrote:
Hey gypsie
can't you Google
Lord Byron
??????????
Are you so handicapped??
Or dosnt lord byron exist in your fake church history??
Hehehehe
stupid propaganda kleptomanic seaGypsies
Once more you are wrong lobotomized Mother Tereza.
Greeks introduced the word "kleptomaniac" for people like you.
Idiot kleptomaniac Slavs.

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#15 Nov 14, 2012
Blagoja wrote:
Why are Greeks so jealous about my Macedonian history ?.........
This for: http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TO...
Semitic Greek gypsies

Europe

#16 Nov 14, 2012
Epiriots and Macedonians, were never Greeks.
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This strabo explain very clear.
Read
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...in the ancient times the whole Greece was a settlement of barbarians(non Greek)....
...Pelops brought over peoples from Phrygria( Asia minor)....
...Danaus from Egypt...
...Daulis in Phocis by Tereus (Thracians,barbarians)...
...the Phoenicians who came whith Cadmus( Lebanon/Palestine)...
...Attica( Athens) was once held by the Thracians(barbarians)...
... And Boetia itself by Aeones and Temmices and Hyantes(native Pelasgians,barbarians)...
...Indeed most of the country that at the present time (around 30bc) is indisputably Greece is held by barbarians- Macedonia and certain parts of Thessaly by the Thracians( barbarians)... And above Arcania and Aetolia by Epiriot tribes ( barbarians)...
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Strabo Book VII chap.7, 1
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who the fak are you Greeks???
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This is even after Romans gave you a province.
And you still was groups of gypsies, who knew who was whom.
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stupid parasite seaGypsies
Mitch

Doncaster, Australia

#17 Nov 14, 2012
Hey Skoupidia, whilst it might be personally satisfying to immerse yourselves in the fraudulent musings of the likes of Stefov, Grezlovski and Rossos (Skopian propagandists all), you might find this small sample of what the rest of the world knows and understands of ancient Macedonia, Macedonians and Macedonian history an interesting learning experience. Read on and weep, filarakia.

ON THE GREEKNESS OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS (SOME MODERN GENERAL SOURCES TO CONSIDER)

“Alexander’s vision of a unified Europe and Asia was evidently one in which Europe would have the undisputed upper hand. Yet, LIKE MOST GREEKS OF HIS TIME, ALEXANDER’S contempt for Asia was at best ambiguous.”(Source: Pagden, A, Worlds at War, Oxford University Press)

“Eight hundred years on, and the fame of Alexander the Great still blazed undiminished. To many, and not only in the West, he remained a figure of incomparable glamour: KING OF A ONCE-BACKWARD GREEK KINGDOM BY THE TIME HE WAS TWENTY; master of the empire founded by Cyrus five years later; dead, having marched to the limits of the world, at the age of thirty-three.”(Source: Holland, T, In the Shadow of the Sword et al)

“Less than two centuries later, THE MACEDONIAN GREEK ALEXANDER THE GREAT conquered Egypt,….. etc”(Source: Strathern, P, Napoleon in Egypt et al)

“What was just possibly a genuine tragedy in his life became an opportunity to make an ever closer identification with THE MOST FAMOUS GREEK OF THEM ALL, ALEXANDER.”(Source: Speller, E, Following Hadrian et al)

“Alexander the Great spent his brief life trying to bring back the heroic world of Achilles. THE LAST FLOWER OF HELLENIC GREATNESS, there was a wild and manic desperation to his adulthood as he flashed – a brilliant, unforgettable star, across the stage of world history.”(Source: Carroll, J, Greek Pilgrimage et al)

“WE LEARNED HOW GREEK CULTURE SURVIVED AND WAS SPREAD THROUGH THE CONQUESTS OF A GREEK MACEDONIAN, ALEXANDER THE GREAT.”(Source: Kaplan, R D, Balkan Ghosts et al)

“THE PTOLEMIES WERE IN FACT MACEDONIAN GREEK,…..”(Source: Schiff, S, Cleopatra: A Life et al)

“Ptolemy’s greatest rivals were the two other successor dynasties to Alexander’s empire, the Antigonids in Macedon and the Seleucids in Syria and Asia Minor. THOUGH SHARING THE SAME MACEDONIAN GREEK HERITAGE, their territorial ambitions would clash for centuries with those of Cleopatra’s family until Rome finally subdued them all.”(Source: Preston, D, Cleopatra & Antony et al)

“But when, at the behest of Ptolemy (GREEK KING OF EGYPT and a great patron of the arts and sciences),….. etc”(Source: Rieu, E V (translator), The Odyssey – Homer et al)

“In 330, B.C. as we shall tell later in some detail, a GREEK CONQUEROR, ALEXANDER THE GREAT, is looking on the murdered body of the last of the Persian rulers.”(Source: Wells, H G, The Outline of History)

“The Byzantine Empire was no genuine continuation of it; it was a resumption of the HELLENIC EMPIRE OF ALEXANDER;”(Source: Wells et al)

Macedonian history is part of Greek history. It was game, set and match to the Greek perspective on that question long, long ago.
Semitic Greek gypsies

Europe

#18 Nov 14, 2012
All your sources, gypsie, have nothing to do whith academic wiev of Macedonians.

You have brought poets, modern balkan history, third hand sources and people brainwashed by fake Greek propaganda.

Are you so stupid ?

You have all ancient historians, you can read, like all other modern historians have done, because they didn't live 2400 years ago.

And you forgot to mention your favorit whores, modern historians, Hammond and fox lane and some others.

So what do you think people are stupid, like you Turks who have been brainwashed to think you are ancient Greeks?

Get a life monkey.

And go forge and spam whith fake propaganda somewhere else.

Stupid kleptomanic bastardized seaGypsies
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#19 Nov 14, 2012
Blagoja wrote:
Why are Greeks so jealous about my Macedonian history ?
Why do Greeks wish they were a Macedonian like me ?
Can Greece survive without Macedonia ?
Why are Greeks not happy about being Ethiopian/Albanian/Bulgarian/V lach/Gypsies ?
ILLITERATE YUGOSLAVIAN LYING RIDICULE==>>MACEDONIAS HISTORY==>>IS GREEK HISTORY!IT'S ABOUT HELLENISM!NOT ABOUT BULGARISM!
*** EVERYTHING MACEDONIAN IS IN THE ANCIENT GREEK KOINI LANGUAGE ONLY==>>NOTHING MACEDONIAN IS IN YOUR SLAVOBULGARIAN CRAP!NOT EVEN ONE INSCRIPTION!
Mitch

Doncaster, Australia

#20 Nov 14, 2012
Hey Skoupidia, whilst it might be personally satisfying to immerse yourselves in the fraudulent musings of the likes of Stefov, Grezlovski and Rossos (Skopian propagandists all), you might find this small sample on the Greekness of ancient Macedonia and Macedonians from classical sources an interesting learning experience. Read on and weep, filarakia.

ON THE GREEKNESS OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS (SOME CLASSICAL SOURCES TO CONSIDER – PART 1)

HESIOD:

"And she conceived and bore to Zeus, who delights in the thunderbolt, two sons, Magnes and Macedon, rejoicing in horses, who dwell round about Pieria and Olympus."
(Hesiod, Catalogues of Women and Eoiae 3 [Loeb, H.G. Evelyn-White])

HERODOTUS:

"For in the days of king Deucalion it (i.e. a Makednian tribe) inhabited the land of Phthiotis, then in the time of Dorus, son of Hellen, the country called Histiaean, under Ossa and Olympus; driven by the Cadmeians from this Histiaean country it settled about Pindus in the parts called Macedonian; thence again it migrated to Dryopia, and at last came from Dryopia into Peloponnesus, where it took the name of Dorian."
(Herod. I, 56, 3 [Loeb, A.D. Godley])

"Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy (Alexander I) of Macedonia has received you hospitably."
(Herod. V, 20, 4 [Loeb])

"Now, that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know."
(Herod. V, 22, 1 [Loeb])

"But Alexander (I), proving himself to be an Argive, was judged to be a Greek; so he contended in the furlong race and ran a dead heat for first place."
(Herod. V, 22, 2)

"The Peloponnesians that were with the fleet were ... the Lacedaimonians,... the Corinthians,... the Sicyonians,... the Epidaurians,... the Troezenians,... the people of Hermione there; all these, except the people of Hermione, were of Dorian and Macedonian stock and had last come from Erineus and Pindus and the Dryopian region."
(Herod. VIII, 43 {Loeb])

"Three brothers of the lineage of Temenos came as banished men from Argos to Illyria, Gauanes and Aeropos and Perdiccas."
(Herod. VIII, 137, 1 [Loeb])

"For I (Alexander I) myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery."
(Herod. IX, 45, 2 [Loeb])
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#21 Nov 14, 2012
Semitic Greek gypsies wrote:
All your sources, gypsie, have nothing to do whith academic wiev of Macedonians.
You have brought poets, modern balkan history, third hand sources and people brainwashed by fake Greek propaganda.
Are you so stupid ?
You have all ancient historians, you can read, like all other modern historians have done, because they didn't live 2400 years ago.
And you forgot to mention your favorit whores, modern historians, Hammond and fox lane and some others.
So what do you think people are stupid, like you Turks who have been brainwashed to think you are ancient Greeks?
Get a life monkey.
And go forge and spam whith fake propaganda somewhere else.
Stupid kleptomanic bastardized seaGypsies
SHAMELESS YUGOSLAVIAN LYING RIDICULE==>>YOU DON'T NEED NEITHER HISTORIANS!ANCIENT OR MODERN!==>>MACEDONIAS HELLENIC IDENTITY IS ENGRAVED IN STONE!AND UNLIKE THE LYING FORMER YUGOCOMMIES OF FORMER YUGOSLAVIA!==>>STONES DO NOT LIE!!

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