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#1 Sep 10, 2012
ARRIVALS Slavs=650AD Turks=1024AD Albos=1520AD GREEKS=NATIVES

====The negociations between Byzantine Greeks and newcomers Slav leader Ratsislav are recorded and show very clear that Slavs came to the Balkans from their long journey from Mongolia at 650AD , all proof exists. They asked Greek emperor of bYZANTINE Michail to settle near the Greek Borders of Byzantine. Greeks agreed if they were able to protect the borders from invaders. In exchange Greeks sent the Greek monks Cyrillos and Methdios that had learnd Slavic language, to give then an alphabet and civilize them.

===Turks themselves in history books admit they came from Mongolia as nomads, never had lands or built any cities. They were constantly on the move. They were barbarian warlike theives which looted cities killing people and stealing their belongings, They reached Asia Minor at 1024 AND came to the balkans after 1400AD. They reached Austria were got defeated and slowly reduced to their modern borders which includes a great deal of ancient Greek lands such as west anatolia [constantinople ionia smyrna phrygia troia east thrace etc]\
Now some nationalists are trying to rewrite history and claim ties to ancient Greek ppls like Etruscans of even to Ancient Greeks as Herodotus Omeros etc !!!

====From Albanian Histoians we learn that...
Albos were never a real nation. They too were on the move after Romans conquered Ancient Albania in Caucasus. They slowly moved to the west and reached even the hills of Rome! They finally settled in the lands of Grecoillyrians. They neve had a national conscience and have a mix language of Caucasian Udi ,roman , turkish and ancient Arvanitik Greek [Homers Greek dialect]

Thus, the Albanians originally lived in Colchis on the Black Sea, from where they brought their language. They first emigrated to the Albanian hills near Rome.........From there the Albanians (migrated), and they now live in Macedonia and the Peloponnese.

(Marin Barleti (albanian historians)- De Vita Moribus Ac Rebus Praecipue Aduersus Turcas, Gestis, Georgii Castrioti, Clarissimi Epirotarum Principis.)

====From many ancient historians we learn that Greeks were known as Pelasgians and were authocthonous living here forever.

ACCORDING TO ISOCRATES ,GREEKS WERE AUTOCHTHONOUS PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS REGION FOREVER
Isocrates in Panegyric 23-5:
"For we did not win the country we dwell in by expelling others from it, or by seizing it when uninhabited, nor r we a mixed race collected together from many nations, but so noble
& genuine is our descent, that we have continued 4 all time in possession of the land from which we sprang,
being children of our native soil & able to address our city by the same titles that we give to our nearest relations, 4 we alone of all the Hellenes have the right 2 call our city at once nurse & fatherland & mother.

Herodotus was convinced that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Herodotus on the Pelasgians and the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57
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Greece

#2 Sep 10, 2012
Proof concerning Albanians origin

One of the ways that linguists determine the genetic proximity of languages is by comparing certain classifications of words; for example: terms related to kinship, body parts, the galaxy and natural phenomena. Also they compare personal pronouns, numerals and action verbs as well as verbs that express physiological needs such as hunger. It turns out that terms for such words in both Albanian and Udi are, indeed, very close.
-- Zaza Alexidze

One of the interesting facts that enhance the fact that Albanians came from Caucasus and that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Illyrians is the Turkish name for the Albanians. "Arnauti", which means "those who have not returned" in Arabic, for the Turks were aware of the origins of the Albanians. And they truly did not return to Caucasus, but they stayed in Byzantine lands.

WHILE ALBANIANS WERE TRAVELLING FROM CAUCASUS, IT TOOK THEM SOME CENTURIES TO REACH THE BALKANS & ITALY while..
Albanians do not have a country, cities, camps, fortifications and farms, but live rather in tents and are constantly on the move from one place to another with the help of their troops and relatives. They do have one city called Duracium (Durrës) which belongs to the Latins and from which they get textiles and other necessities.

Source:'Anonymi Descriptio Europae Orientalis' 1308

Albanians come from Caucasus
When Albania of Caucasus was destroyed by Romans, they seeked for new lands in the Balkans. Moving slowly, living in temporary camps, after some centuries they reached the Balkans
Thats why their language has close relations to the one spoke by Udis in Caucasus. It is proven by linguistic scientists and its certified by their findings. We also have the Genetic study proving the common DNA structure to the Caucasians from Kampacha.

"A 2002 genetic study shows that Albanians have ancestors who originated in an area north of Caucasus at the end of the first century AD. According to the study, modern Albanians have common genetic markers with the remains found at the Kampacha period graves in Caucasus"
Source:
INTERNATIONAL ANTHROPOLOGY RESEARCH

HONEST ALBOS SPEAK THE TRUTH, ALBOS RNT ILLYRIANS
Albanian Academic Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich:

"the Albanian professors consciously hide the truth about the origins of the Albanians and, instead truth, to their pupils and students they serve up the lies about their autochthony and illyrian origin.This is not done accidentally, but with the aim to incite the Albanians against the neighbouring nations,

HONEST ALBOS ADMIT THEY R NOT ILLYRIANS
Ardian Vebiu
famous Albanian historian writes:

My personal opinion is that the issue of Albanians descending or not from Illyrians doesn't deserve the interest it has traditionally aroused. There is absolutely NO Illyrian cultural legacy among Albanians today. In a certain sense, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism.

After him followed the Albanian scholar Dr Adrian Qosi who in the middle of Tirana openly opposed the hypothesis about the Illyrian origin of the Albanians. With me agreed via the printed media several other younger scholars of whom I would especially mention Fatos Lubonja Prof. Adrian Vebiu & others."
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#3 Sep 10, 2012
GREEK PELASGIAN ORIGIN proved by
Omiros-Sophocles-Hesiodos-Thuc ydides
Hecataeus-Apollodoros-Plutarch os
Herodotos-Strabo-Aeneas
Virgilius-Ovidius-Dionysios Alikarnasseus
ALL say ONE THING: Pelasgians were Greek

PELASGIANS, was the unitary name which represented the Greek nation as a whole, before the cataclysm of Deukalion & the following division into the known Greek tribes of Danaans, Achaeans, Dorians, Aeolians, Ionians, etc
Pelasgos was the son of Zeus & Niobis, native grandfather of Thessalos, progenitor of the Pelasgians.
[Apollodoros M. 11.2,3]

"...Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous"
(Plutarchos Peri fyges 604D-E,13)

PLUTARCHOS CALLS PELASGIANS A GREEK NATION
AND THAT GREEKS DID NOT COME FROM ELSEWHERE BUT WERE AUTOCTHONOUS

"...Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous"
(Plutarchos Peri fyges 604D-E,13)

STRABO SAYS THAT PELASGIANS WERE GREEK
AS THE DANAANS & ARGEIANS

"I think it was the glory of the city which prepared them to be called after her, the Pelasgians, the Danaans & the Argeians and the other Greeks."
(Strabo G H VI 8)

WHY DID ALL LATIN POETS CALLED THE GREEKS, PELASGI??

Virgilius as all Latin poets was calling the Greeks "PELASGI"
eg:"Reges Pelasgi" (Aeneas A624)

The Greek Pelasgians were the first to colonize Italy "Pelasgi qui primi coluisse Italiam" (AGell.Atticae A10)

Also Latin poet Ovidius refering 2 the events of the Trojan War identifies the Pelasgians with the Greeks
(Metamorphoses XII XIII)

Hectacos: Pelasgos from which Pelasgians derived was GREEK KING FROM THESSALY
Acousilaos: Pelasgos was Greek his father was Lycaon, both of Peloponnesian genealogy
In Prometheus: Pelasgian land means GREEK ARGOS
Ephoros: Pelasgian simply means prehistoric GREEK
Sophoclis: Pelasgian is synonymous to Greek
Thucydidis adopts the same general Pelasgian theory of early Greece
Dionysios Alikarnasseus: The Greek Pelasgians came to Rome
Herodotos' book "PELASGIANS THE EARLY GREEKS"

The autochthonous nature of the Hellenes — an ancient belief to which Herodotus, Isocrates, Plutarch and others attest — implies they are descended from the autochthonous Pelasgians. The Athenians deemed themselves "true Hellenes" due to their well-developed society.
In support of this interpretation, these theorists point to the passage where Herodotus deems the Hellenes a branch of the Pelasgians (Herodotus on the Pelasgians the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57

Herodotus insists that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Pelasgians the Early Hellenes) Herodotus 1.57

Herodotos never said that Pelasgians were not Greek. He said they spoke a barbarian form of Greek. ANTI-GREEKS INTENTIONALLY DISTORT THE MULTIPLE MEANING OF "BARBARIAN"
Herodotos doubts, of their language doesnt minimize their GREEKNESS. HE SAID PELASGIANS WERE GREEK

A usual worldwide misconception is the association of the word ‘Barbarian’ with non-Greeks, a claim that is useful for the propaganda of Albanian Nationalists who use it heavily but unfortunately for them ancient texts refute them.
The whole propaganda of Albanians & Scopians is based on this misconception. They often present misconceived quotes from ancient historians to prove their obscene propaganda, when at the same time these same historians in other parts clearly refute them

"Barbarian doesn't strictly mean foreign it also meant backward in terms of civilization"-Strabo
SCOPS POVERTY CHAMPIONS

Greece

#4 Sep 11, 2012
scopis go back to mongolia
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#6 Sep 16, 2012
RRIVALS Slavs=650AD Turks=1024AD Albos=1520AD GREEKS=NATIVES

====The negociations between Byzantine Greeks and newcomers Slav leader Ratsislav are recorded and show very clear that Slavs came to the Balkans from their long journey from Mongolia at 650AD , all proof exists. They asked Greek emperor of bYZANTINE Michail to settle near the Greek Borders of Byzantine. Greeks agreed if they were able to protect the borders from invaders. In exchange Greeks sent the Greek monks Cyrillos and Methdios that had learnd Slavic language, to give then an alphabet and civilize them.

===Turks themselves in history books admit they came from Mongolia as nomads, never had lands or built any cities. They were constantly on the move. They were barbarian warlike theives which looted cities killing people and stealing their belongings, They reached Asia Minor at 1024 AND came to the balkans after 1400AD. They reached Austria were got defeated and slowly reduced to their modern borders which includes a great deal of ancient Greek lands such as west anatolia [constantinople ionia smyrna phrygia troia east thrace etc]\
Now some nationalists are trying to rewrite history and claim ties to ancient Greek ppls like Etruscans of even to Ancient Greeks as Herodotus Omeros etc !!!

====From Albanian Histoians we learn that...
Albos were never a real nation. They too were on the move after Romans conquered Ancient Albania in Caucasus. They slowly moved to the west and reached even the hills of Rome! They finally settled in the lands of Grecoillyrians. They neve had a national conscience and have a mix language of Caucasian Udi ,roman , turkish and ancient Arvanitik Greek [Homers Greek dialect]

Thus, the Albanians originally lived in Colchis on the Black Sea, from where they brought their language. They first emigrated to the Albanian hills near Rome.........From there the Albanians (migrated), and they now live in Macedonia and the Peloponnese.

(Marin Barleti (albanian historians)- De Vita Moribus Ac Rebus Praecipue Aduersus Turcas, Gestis, Georgii Castrioti, Clarissimi Epirotarum Principis.)

====From many ancient historians we learn that Greeks were known as Pelasgians and were authocthonous living here forever.

ACCORDING TO ISOCRATES ,GREEKS WERE AUTOCHTHONOUS PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS REGION FOREVER
Isocrates in Panegyric 23-5:
"For we did not win the country we dwell in by expelling others from it, or by seizing it when uninhabited, nor r we a mixed race collected together from many nations, but so noble
& genuine is our descent, that we have continued 4 all time in possession of the land from which we sprang,
being children of our native soil & able to address our city by the same titles that we give to our nearest relations, 4 we alone of all the Hellenes have the right 2 call our city at once nurse & fatherland & mother.

Herodotus was convinced that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Herodotus on the Pelasgians and the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57
Miss Macedonia

Greece

#8 Sep 16, 2012
SCOPS POVERTY CHAMPIONS wrote:
scopis go back to mongolia
Neither Mongolia wants them....who wants thieves and garbages?
zika

Asia/Pacific Region

#9 Sep 16, 2012
Miss Macedonia wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither Mongolia wants them....who wants thieves and garbages?
hi baby you shuold start learning arvanitika thats if you can find a school in greece if not you can go to albania they will teach you.just like the bulgarians were teaching the fyroms. both countrys history is fake , macedonia == speak bulgarian and have bulgarian history and bulgarian heros , moder greeeks = albabians fought for there independence , first priminister albanian , oficial lingo of the navy albanian, king otto were are the greeks in atina , and thats comeing from are german, best solution for the balkans is a two state solution ,==the great republic of bulgaria and on the other side the united states of albania.
Miss Macedonia

Thessaloníki, Greece

#10 Sep 17, 2012
zika wrote:
<quoted text> hi baby you shuold start learning arvanitika thats if you can find a school in greece if not you can go to albania they will teach you.just like the bulgarians were teaching the fyroms. both countrys history is fake , macedonia == speak bulgarian and have bulgarian history and bulgarian heros , moder greeeks = albabians fought for there independence , first priminister albanian , oficial lingo of the navy albanian, king otto were are the greeks in atina , and thats comeing from are german, best solution for the balkans is a two state solution ,==the great republic of bulgaria and on the other side the united states of albania.
We are not interesting about your national fantasies which are trying to make you feel good;)
I don't know what are you but i know that you need therapy;)
Probably you are Albanian and i have to say you that....For Greece,only the Greeks fought and Colokotronis stated then....Hellenes,you are descendants of ancient Hellenes,fight for your homeland;)
Albanians were the last people who won their freedom in 1912,100 years after Greece by help of Austria and Italy;)It is not possible Albanians fought for us when they were closely alliens of Turks as Muslim brothers;)
Arvanites were and are proud Greeks and they are laughing when they hear you to research for a glorious identity;)
That's why you must learn arvanitika and the rest dialects of Greeks because all you have there is greek heritage;)Remember Ali Pasha...he used only the greek language in his state;)He knews his heritage;)
Constantin I the illyrian

Europe

#11 Sep 17, 2012
So Ali pasha is also Greek??

Just go back to mideleast, where you come from.

Fifty bastardised phoenician seagypsies
Greek RACIAL contiuity

Greece

#12 Sep 24, 2012
ARRIVALS Slavs=650AD Turks=1024AD Albos=1520AD GREEKS=NATIVES

====The negociations between Byzantine Greeks and newcomers Slav leader Ratsislav are recorded and show very clear that Slavs came to the Balkans from their long journey from Mongolia at 650AD , all proof exists. They asked Greek emperor of bYZANTINE Michail to settle near the Greek Borders of Byzantine. Greeks agreed if they were able to protect the borders from invaders. In exchange Greeks sent the Greek monks Cyrillos and Methdios that had learnd Slavic language, to give then an alphabet and civilize them.

===Turks themselves in history books admit they came from Mongolia as nomads, never had lands or built any cities. They were constantly on the move. They were barbarian warlike theives which looted cities killing people and stealing their belongings, They reached Asia Minor at 1024 AND came to the balkans after 1400AD. They reached Austria were got defeated and slowly reduced to their modern borders which includes a great deal of ancient Greek lands such as west anatolia [constantinople ionia smyrna phrygia troia east thrace etc]\
Now some nationalists are trying to rewrite history and claim ties to ancient Greek ppls like Etruscans of even to Ancient Greeks as Herodotus Omeros etc !!!

====From Albanian Histoians we learn that...
Albos were never a real nation. They too were on the move after Romans conquered Ancient Albania in Caucasus. They slowly moved to the west and reached even the hills of Rome! They finally settled in the lands of Grecoillyrians. They neve had a national conscience and have a mix language of Caucasian Udi ,roman , turkish and ancient Arvanitik Greek [Homers Greek dialect]

Thus, the Albanians&#65279; originally lived in Colchis on the&#65279; Black Sea, from where they brought their language. They first emigrated to the Albanian hills near&#65279; Rome.........From there the Albanians (migrated), and they now live in Macedonia and the Peloponnese.

(Marin Barleti (albanian historians)- De Vita Moribus Ac Rebus Praecipue Aduersus Turcas, Gestis, Georgii Castrioti, Clarissimi Epirotarum Principis.)

====From many ancient historians we learn that Greeks were known as Pelasgians and were authocthonous living here forever.

ACCORDING TO ISOCRATES ,GREEKS WERE AUTOCHTHONOUS PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS REGION FOREVER
Isocrates in Panegyric 23-5:
"For we did not win the country we dwell in by expelling others from it, or by seizing it when uninhabited, nor r we a mixed race collected together from many nations, but so noble
& genuine is our descent, that we have continued 4 all time in possession of the land from which we sprang,
being children of our native soil & able to address our city by the same titles that we give to our nearest relations, 4 we alone of all the Hellenes have the right 2 call our city at once nurse & fatherland & mother.

Herodotus was convinced that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Herodotus on the Pelasgians and the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57
Miss Macedonia

Thessaloníki, Greece

#13 Oct 11, 2012
Constantin I the illyrian wrote:
So Ali pasha is also Greek??
Just go back to mideleast, where you come from.
Fifty bastardised phoenician seagypsies
Ali-Pasha was Albanian but he had greek language as the official of his state,he had Greeks as generals,soldiers and scientists;)
He knew that he couldn't have a state in Epirus without Greeks in his side since Epirus was and is Hellas;)
Now go back to Caucasus and find your roots unshod parasite;)
DODONA

Toronto, Canada

#15 Oct 13, 2012
The only difference between a Greek and a Turk is the fact that the Greek hangs a cross around his neck and the Turks bend over their asses when they pray. Racially and genetically they are the same and there is nothing wrong with it. Being an Albanian makes me also a tolerant person.

hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahhahaah Arvanit Dialect it is NOT a Greek dialect. It is a branch of proto-albanian.
It is a Homeric Dialect which is still spoken nowadays in Greece by the Arberesh the Medieval Albanians which give the freedom to the so-called Greeks.

Marin Barleti wan an Albanian Monk from Shkodra who wrote about Gjergj Kastrioti and the Battles of the Castle of Shkodra where he fought himself as well.
I have read all his work, and he made me realize that SKANDERBEG was the king of Epirus, the same way King Phyrro was.

Alexandeer the Great, Phyrros e Epiri, Skenderbeg, Constantine the Great, and the forefathers of spartan the DORIANS they were all PELASGS a race that you as a Greek have nothing to do with them.

You sound exactly like a Serv desperately trying to be an Illyrian, a South-slav Macedonain trying to be an Ancient Macedonian, or a Bulgarian trying to be a Thracian.

Proto-Greeks were old, too bad THE NOBEL PELASGS dwell in Balkan before Greeks showed up with their Semitic philosophies,which they still try to use them today (people like yourself are a perfect example).
Greek Islander

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Oct 13, 2012
DODONA wrote:
The only difference between a Greek and a Turk is the fact that the Greek hangs a cross around his neck and the Turks bend over their asses when they pray. Racially and genetically they are the same and there is nothing wrong with it. Being an Albanian makes me also a tolerant person.
hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahhahaah Arvanit Dialect it is NOT a Greek dialect. It is a branch of proto-albanian.
It is a Homeric Dialect which is still spoken nowadays in Greece by the Arberesh the Medieval Albanians which give the freedom to the so-called Greeks.
Marin Barleti wan an Albanian Monk from Shkodra who wrote about Gjergj Kastrioti and the Battles of the Castle of Shkodra where he fought himself as well.
.
Again, the Albanian historical revisionist a work...hahaha!!

"Dorian, any member of a major division of the ancient Greek people, distinguished by a well-marked dialect and by their subdivision, within all their communities, into the “tribes”(phylai) of Hylleis, Pamphyloi, and Dymanes. These three tribes were apparently quite separate in origin from the four tribes found among the Ionian Greeks. The Dorian people are traditionally acknowledged as the conquerors of the Peloponnese (in the period 1100–1000 bc)."

Doric was one of the major dialects of the classical Greek language, along with the Ionic-Attic, Aeolic, and Arcado-Cypriot dialect groups. But because the Ionic-Attic dialect of Athens dominated Greek culture from the 5th century bc, very little remains of ancient writings in pure Doric dialect.

The Dorian peoples had a seminal influence on the later development of Greek art. Indeed, the crowning achievements of Greek art and architecture from the 5th century bc arose from the combination of the art of the Doric peoples (with its restraint, power, and monumentality) and that of the Ionian peoples (with its grace, elegance, and ornateness). The massive and simple Doric order of architecture earned its name from its origin in the Doric-populated cities of the southern Aegean. The choral lyrics in Greek tragedy were also a Doric invention.

Encyclopedia Britannica
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/169...

Definition of Dorian

noun

a member of a Hellenic people speaking the Doric dialect of Greek, thought to have entered Greece from the north circa 1100 bc. They settled in the Peloponnese and later colonized Sicily and southern Italy.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl...

You can try and twist and turn history but there is Nothing Albanian, Fyromian, Turkish, Chinese or German about the Dorians.

“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#22 Oct 14, 2012
The meaning and truth of this statement are alike in doubt; but he probably refers only to the tribe inhabiting the vicinity of Dodona, in Epirus.

At any rate, Graeci and Graecia owed their introduction practically to the Romans after their contact with the Greeks in the war with Pyrrhus, and in consequence they included

***(what "Hellenes" and "Hellas" did not) Epirus and Macedonia.***

http://www.bible-history.com/new_testament_ci ...

“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#23 Oct 14, 2012
Pyrrhus was the son of Aeacides and Phthia, a Thessalian woman, and a second cousin of Alexander the Great (via Alexander's mother, Olympias). Pyrrhus was only two years old when his father was dethroned, in 317 BC, his family taking refuge with Glaukias, king of the Taulantians, one of the largest Illyrian tribes.[4]

Glaucias restored Pyrrhus to the throne in 306 BC until the latter was banished again, four years later, by his enemy, Cassander. Thus, he went on to serve as an officer, in the wars of the Diadochi, under his brother-in-law Demetrius Poliorcetes. In 298 BC, Pyrrhus was taken hostage to Alexandria, under the terms of a peace treaty made between Demetrius and Ptolemy I. There, he married Ptolemy I's stepdaughter Antigone (daughter of Berenice, Ptolemy's mistress, and a Macedonian noble) and, in 297 BC, with Ptolemy I's financial and military aid, restored his kingdom in Epirus and had Neoptolemus II, puppet of the now-deceased Seleucus and Pyrrhus' co-ruler for a short while, murdered.

In 295 BC Pyrrhus transferred the capital of his kingdom to Ambrakia (modern Arta). Next, he went to war against his former ally and brother-in-law Demetrius and by 286 BC he had taken control over the kingdom of Macedon. Pyrrhus was driven out of Macedon by Lysimachus in 284 BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhus_of_Epiru...
GaySCOPSareTurko Shiptari

Athens, Greece

#26 Oct 14, 2012
Pyrrhus aim was the Greek unification (like and the aim of his second cousin, Alexander) in order to lead the war against the Romans.
Thus he entered Italy with a strong Greek army in a bid to subdue the Romans and he defeated the Romans, in the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC. 15,000 Roman were dead and 13,000 Greeks. The Greek cities of Croton and Locri joined Pyrrhus. He then offered the Romans a peace treaty, which was eventually rejected.
"The Cambridge Ancient History"

In 281 the Greek city of Tarentum, in southern Italy, fell out with Rome and was faced with a Roman attack and certain defeat. Rome had already made itself into a major power, and was poised to subdue all the Greek cities in Magna Graecia(the west Mediterranean Greek colonialism in nowadays Italy, France etc.). The Greeks Tarentines asked from their compatriot Greek Pyrrhus of Epirus to help them.

Pyrrhus recognized the possibility of carving out a new Hellenic empire for himself in Italy!!!

The Pyrrhus became
king of the Molossians (from 297 BC),
king of Epirus (306-301, 297-272 BC) and
king of Macedon + Epirus(288-284, 273-272 BC).
Pyrrhus and Attila were the strongest opponents of Roman Empire in history.
His aim was the Hellenic unification (like and Alexander's aim before him) in order to lead the war against the Romans.

Olympias brother Arymbas was the grandfather of the one of the most successful ancient Greek generals of the Hellenistic era the legendary ancient Greek 'Pyrrhus of Epirus' 318-272 BC.
Pyrrhus (Greek term means "Fire like") was the son of Aeacides(Greek term means "of the earth") of Epirus and Phthia(her name is the region name of Achilles house)
Also Pyrrhus was the second cousin of Alexander the Great.

Olympias was the mother of Alexander the Great.
Olympias was daughter of Neoptolemus king of Epirus.
Her father descent from Neoptolemus(son of Achilles).
This formed the basis of Alexander's claims to be a new Achilles and son of Zeus !!!

So where do the fuck Albanians fit in this conversation ? Do they think that trying to dehellenize the Greek lands in antiquity will Albanize them ? hahaha ! Were r any quotes refering to Albanians in ancient years? Polybios reference to Arvanon ? haha They were Greeks. The city was Greek.
DODONA

Toronto, Canada

#27 Oct 14, 2012
Dorians were Pelasgs and Greeks were not. Pelasgs were the Thracians, Illyrians and Etruscians.(Dardanians in Troy might have been Pelasgs as well)

Greeks were different in culture and in race.
DODONA

Toronto, Canada

#28 Oct 14, 2012
GaySCOPSareTurkoShiptari wrote:
Pyrrhus aim was the Greek unification (like and the aim of his second cousin, Alexander) in order to lead the war against the Romans.
Thus he entered Italy with a strong Greek army in a bid to subdue the Romans and he defeated the Romans, in the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC. 15,000 Roman were dead and 13,000 Greeks. The Greek cities of Croton and Locri joined Pyrrhus. He then offered the Romans a peace treaty, which was eventually rejected.
"The Cambridge Ancient History"
In 281 the Greek city of Tarentum, in southern Italy, fell out with Rome and was faced with a Roman attack and certain defeat. Rome had already made itself into a major power, and was poised to subdue all the Greek cities in Magna Graecia(the west Mediterranean Greek colonialism in nowadays Italy, France etc.). The Greeks Tarentines asked from their compatriot Greek Pyrrhus of Epirus to help them.
Pyrrhus recognized the possibility of carving out a new Hellenic empire for himself in Italy!!!
The Pyrrhus became
king of the Molossians (from 297 BC),
king of Epirus (306-301, 297-272 BC) and
king of Macedon + Epirus(288-284, 273-272 BC).
Pyrrhus and Attila were the strongest opponents of Roman Empire in history.
His aim was the Hellenic unification (like and Alexander's aim before him) in order to lead the war against the Romans.
Olympias brother Arymbas was the grandfather of the one of the most successful ancient Greek generals of the Hellenistic era the legendary ancient Greek 'Pyrrhus of Epirus' 318-272 BC.
Pyrrhus (Greek term means "Fire like") was the son of Aeacides(Greek term means "of the earth") of Epirus and Phthia(her name is the region name of Achilles house)
Also Pyrrhus was the second cousin of Alexander the Great.
Olympias was the mother of Alexander the Great.
Olympias was daughter of Neoptolemus king of Epirus.
Her father descent from Neoptolemus(son of Achilles).
This formed the basis of Alexander's claims to be a new Achilles and son of Zeus !!!
So where do the fuck Albanians fit in this conversation ? Do they think that trying to dehellenize the Greek lands in antiquity will Albanize them ? hahaha ! Were r any quotes refering to Albanians in ancient years? Polybios reference to Arvanon ? haha They were Greeks. The city was Greek.
The shorter the fustanella the bigger the myth
DODONA

Toronto, Canada

#29 Oct 14, 2012
Molossians, Chaonians, and Thesprotians were all Pelasgians. This is one of the reason why Phyrro was raised in the house of an Illyrian king (also branch of Pelasgic race)

Achille was the father of Molossians and Achilles was a Pelasg as well. He believed and worshiped Dodona.

Greeks are newcomers compared to the Nobel Pelasgs.

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Athina

#30 Oct 14, 2012
DODONA wrote:
Molossians, Chaonians, and Thesprotians were all Pelasgians. This is one of the reason why Phyrro was raised in the house of an Illyrian king (also branch of Pelasgic race)
Achille was the father of Molossians and Achilles was a Pelasg as well. He believed and worshiped Dodona.
Greeks are newcomers compared to the Nobel Pelasgs.
Ok any actual proofs?

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