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Herodotos: GREEKS= autochthonous, natives

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CONSTANTINOS ILLYRIOS

Athens, Greece

#1 Sep 13, 2012
The autochthonous nature of the Hellenes — an ancient belief to which Herodotus, Isocrates, Plutarch and others attest — implies they are descended from the autochthonous Pelasgians. The Athenians deemed themselves "true Hellenes" due to their well-developed society.
In support of this interpretation, these theorists point to the passage where Herodotus deems the Hellenes a branch of the Pelasgians (Herodotus on the Pelasgians the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57

Herodotus insists that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Pelasgians the Early Hellenes) Herodotus 1.57
CONSTANTINOS ILLYRIOS

Athens, Greece

#2 Sep 13, 2012
ACCORDING TO ISOCRATES ,GREEKS WERE AUTOCHTHONOUS PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS REGION FOREVER
GREEKS DIDNT ARRIVE TO THE BALKANS
GREEKS WERE & ARE AUTOCHTHONOUS PEOPLE

Isocrates in Panegyric 23-5:
"For we did not win the country we dwell in by expelling others from it, or by seizing it when uninhabited, nor r we a mixed race collected together from many nations--->
-> but so noble & genuine is our descent, that we have continued 4 all time in possession of the land from which we sprang, being children of our native soil & able to address our city by the same titles that we give to our nearest relations, 4 we alone of all the Hellenes have the right 2 call our city at once nurse & fatherland & mother."

HOW CAN SOMEONE CLAIM THAT GREEKS ARRIVED 2 THE BALKANS WHEN THE GREEK PELASGIANS XSTED LONG B4 6000BC?
ISOCRATIS-HERODOTOS & others, know better than scops
Miss Macedonia

Greece

#3 Sep 13, 2012
Another big joke in this miserable world!
Albanians have opinion about history and civilization!
The garbages of the Europe who live because of Greece!
Anyway.....nobody is perfect;))))
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#4 Sep 15, 2012
The autochthonous nature of the Hellenes — an ancient belief to which Herodotus, Isocrates, Plutarch and others attest — implies they are descended from the autochthonous Pelasgians. The Athenians deemed themselves "true Hellenes" due to their well-developed society.
In support of this interpretation, these theorists point to the passage where Herodotus deems the Hellenes a branch of the Pelasgians (Herodotus on the Pelasgians the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57

Herodotus insists that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Pelasgians the Early Hellenes) Herodotus 1.57
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#5 Sep 16, 2012
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
From Hesiodos we learn that Greek King Pelasgos named his ppl Pelasgians
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#6 Sep 16, 2012
Miss Macedonia wrote:
Another big joke in this miserable world!
Albanians have opinion about history and civilization!
The garbages of the Europe who live because of Greece!
Anyway.....nobody is perfect;))))
indeed
Constantin I the illyrian

Europe

#7 Sep 16, 2012
Hehehehe

look at these bastardised dogs bark.

You Greeks where our slaves for 5oo years.

Stupid phoenician semitic seagypsies
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#9 Sep 16, 2012
Constantin I the illyrian wrote:
Hehehehe
look at these bastardised dogs bark.
You Greeks where our slaves for 5oo years.
Stupid phoenician semitic seagypsies
hahahah albos won a war ??? when did ever albos win a war ?????
thats a good one heheeheh
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#10 Sep 16, 2012
Albos r ppl that think they xstd in Ancient yrs in the Balkans!
They think they r descendants of Greek Pelasgians & Illyrians!
They think their language is older than Greek!
They deliberately overlook the fact that they came to the Balkans from Caucasus
They r jealous of Greeks & adopt
Greek history-Heroes-Culture-clothin g as their own
BUT IF U ASK M TO PROVE WHAT THEY CLAIM, THEY CANNOT FIND A SINGLE proof
Poor obsessed Albos I pity u-U WISH TO BE GREEKS
BUT U WILL BE stinky ALBO 4ever
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#11 Sep 16, 2012
IS THERE Any Albanian achievment THAT COULD WHATSOEVER MAKE A STINKY SUB-HUMAN ALBO FEEL ANY KIND OF PRIDE ??

IS THERE ANYTHING ALBANIAN,, WHICH SOMEONE COULD REFER TO AND REMEMBER THESE STINKY SUB HUMANS WHICH ALLIED WITH ALL CONQUERERS OUT OF FEAR, as useful people?
WHEN DID ALBOS EVER WIN A WAR ??
WHY U WERE ALWAYS DEFEATED BY THE GREEKS >>??
ALBOS=PROFESSIONAL HISTORY DISTORTERS
JEALOUS OF THE GLORIOUS GREEKS
ALL DAY U DREAM U R GREEK EPIROTANS
HAHAHAHAA

ALBOS WANT TO BE ILLYRIANS BUT THE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS !!! eheheheheh
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#12 Sep 16, 2012
WHAT ON EARTH AN ALBO CAN B PROUD ABOUT? DREAMING OF BEING GREEK?
OBEYING ALL CONQUERORS WHILE OTHERS WERE FIGHTING M?
ALLYING WITH NAZIS& MOUSOLINI?
STEALING GREEK HISTORY NAMES SYMBOLS HEROES CLOTHES etc?
Using albo etymology to xplain Greek words?
Becoming muslims out of fear? Never winning a single war? UR ZERO CONTRIBUTION TO MANKIND? BEING JEALOUS OF GREEKS?
ALL OF ALBOS BACKROUND IS FULL OF DISGRACE & DISHONESTY
If ur ancestors were so inglorious & dishonorable dont blame the Greeks
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#13 Sep 16, 2012
When did Albanians win a war ? ALBANIANS R BALKANS COWARDS. A DISGRACE 4 MANKIND.U ALWAYS OBEYED ALL CONQUERERS WHILE OTHERS WERE FIGHTING THEM. LOOK HOW U OBEYED OTTOMANS OUT OF FEAR TO CONFRONT THEM.LOOK HOW U OBEYED MOUSOLINI & Hitler, INSTEAD OF FIGHTING.FUKEN COWARDS, u became moslims out of fear ! Greeks Serbs Bulgarians refused to betray orthodox belief, even if they were slaughtered
U R AFFRAID EVEN OF GREEKS SHADOWS, u fart out of fear hehe -U R FREE THNKS TO GREEK GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS
Miss Macedonia

Greece

#14 Sep 16, 2012
Constantin I the illyrian wrote:
Hehehehe
look at these bastardised dogs bark.
You Greeks where our slaves for 5oo years.
Stupid phoenician semitic seagypsies
Come on Albo...wake up,stop dreaming.....
You always were slaves and you were the last country which won its freedom by the help of Austria and Italy in 1912!
And then you became a "nation"!
Tall and blond Albanians from Cosovo...
Short and redhead Gegs...
Short and brown Tosks....
Tribes that they hate each other...
Parmenides still wait your answer....
Are you Illyrians because Pelasgians,Epirotans and Macedonians you are not sure;)
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#15 Sep 16, 2012
S THERE Any Albanian achievment THAT COULD WHATSOEVER MAKE A STINKY SUB-HUMAN ALBO FEEL ANY KIND OF PRIDE ??

IS THERE ANYTHING ALBANIAN,, WHICH SOMEONE COULD REFER TO AND REMEMBER THESE STINKY SUB HUMANS WHICH ALLIED WITH ALL CONQUERERS OUT OF FEAR, as useful people?
WHEN DID ALBOS EVER WIN A WAR ??
WHY U WERE ALWAYS DEFEATED BY THE GREEKS >>??
ALBOS=PROFESSIONAL HISTORY DISTORTERS
JEALOUS OF THE GLORIOUS GREEKS
ALL DAY U DREAM U R GREEK EPIROTANS
HAHAHAHAA

ALBOS WANT TO BE ILLYRIANS BUT THE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS !!! eheheheheh
The lie Detector

Helensvale, Australia

#16 Sep 16, 2012
Lie Detector is GAY wrote:
S THERE Any Albanian achievment THAT COULD WHATSOEVER MAKE A STINKY SUB-HUMAN ALBO FEEL ANY KIND OF PRIDE ??
IS THERE ANYTHING ALBANIAN,, WHICH SOMEONE COULD REFER TO AND REMEMBER THESE STINKY SUB HUMANS WHICH ALLIED WITH ALL CONQUERERS OUT OF FEAR, as useful people?
WHEN DID ALBOS EVER WIN A WAR ??
WHY U WERE ALWAYS DEFEATED BY THE GREEKS >>??
ALBOS=PROFESSIONAL HISTORY DISTORTERS
JEALOUS OF THE GLORIOUS GREEKS
ALL DAY U DREAM U R GREEK EPIROTANS
HAHAHAHAA
ALBOS WANT TO BE ILLYRIANS BUT THE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS !!! eheheheheh
talk all you want peder..THE GREATEST JOY FOR ME IS GREECE COMING TO AN END..ECONOMICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY...soo a civil war will end greece once and for all...then we will see if you are still online to post bullshit!!! i and all macedonians will have the last laugh and say!!!
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#17 Sep 16, 2012
The lie Detector wrote:
<quoted text>talk all you want peder..THE GREATEST JOY FOR ME IS GREECE COMING TO AN END..ECONOMICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY...soo a civil war will end greece once and for all...then we will see if you are still online to post bullshit!!! i and all macedonians will have the last laugh and say!!!
U R NOT ONLY GAY BUT AN ALBO ALSO?
OOUAHAHAHA !!! ECONOMIES GO UP AND DOWN, UR BLOOD WILL REMAIN MONGOLIAN , thats the real joy for real macedonians like me hehehehe
Constantin I the illyrian

Europe

#18 Sep 17, 2012
shalom to Gayreeks
Why are you Greeks changing the subject when presented whith evidence you only turn insult back and fake storys and outdated books.
Are you ever gona grow up?
Or is it some Phoenician seaGypsie philosophy?
I think so
Your Greek founder: Cadmus phoenician(semitic tribe(s) from mideleast)
your language: phoenician,Persia/Armanic
your alfabet: phoenician
your greek gods: phoenician and others
cultur: phoenician
Evrything Greek is imported even the ancient and modern people.
So how come you belong in the Balkans?
Or europe?
Please tell me
Hallo hallo earth is calling.
You GREEK founder CADMUS A PHOENICIAN
The so called Greek ancient civil-wars and even Macedonian-Greek war was a ETHNIC war not a civil war.
Native against Foreigners.
Whites against blacks
read : Cadmus, boeotia, phoenicians, sea people, alexander the not so great, greek dark age, myceian, liner a+b, dorian, black Athena, troy, and more
Stupid seaGypsies
Lie Detector is GAY

Athens, Greece

#19 Sep 20, 2012
The autochthonous nature of the Hellenes — an ancient belief to which Herodotus, Isocrates, Plutarch and others attest — implies they are descended from the autochthonous Pelasgians. The Athenians deemed themselves "true Hellenes" due to their well-developed society.
In support of this interpretation, these theorists point to the passage where Herodotus deems the Hellenes a branch of the Pelasgians (Herodotus on the Pelasgians the Early Hellenes). Herodotus 1.57

Herodotus insists that the Hellenes were descendants of Pelasgians:

"The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me. It was a branch of the PELASGIC, which separated from the main body, & at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread & increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians."
(Pelasgians the Early Hellenes) Herodotus 1.57
Miss Macedonia

Greece

#21 Sep 21, 2012
The lie Detector wrote:
<quoted text>talk all you want peder..THE GREATEST JOY FOR ME IS GREECE COMING TO AN END..ECONOMICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY...soo a civil war will end greece once and for all...then we will see if you are still online to post bullshit!!! i and all macedonians will have the last laugh and say!!!
Hey...you who always talk about gays and peders because you love them...
Three years now you are dreaming greek default but...
We still are here,members of EU and Eurozone while you still live in the most miserable and
poor country in Europe based on Economist and you still sell each other for a few euros....hahahaha!
Poor guy....we know you...you speak about us because you already know that you can't save your fake country and you are trying to cover your empty lifes by using some mistakes of the others....typical fyromian autistic reactions of the losers....hahahahaha;)
We already laugh by this and we Macedonians say you are the biggest joke in the world;)
Don't talk in the name of Macedonians,you don't belong to our race,you are Bulgarians!
We Macedonians say we are proud Greeks;)
Go now and sell your wife for a few euros,you must eat dinner;)hahahahaha
Miss Macedonia

Greece

#22 Sep 21, 2012
Constantin I the illyrian wrote:
shalom to Gayreeks
Why are you Greeks changing the subject when presented whith evidence you only turn insult back and fake storys and outdated books.
Are you ever gona grow up?
Or is it some Phoenician seaGypsie philosophy?
I think so
Your Greek founder: Cadmus phoenician(semitic tribe(s) from mideleast)
your language: phoenician,Persia/Armanic
your alfabet: phoenician
your greek gods: phoenician and others
cultur: phoenician
Evrything Greek is imported even the ancient and modern people.
So how come you belong in the Balkans?
Or europe?
Please tell me
Hallo hallo earth is calling.
You GREEK founder CADMUS A PHOENICIAN
The so called Greek ancient civil-wars and even Macedonian-Greek war was a ETHNIC war not a civil war.
Native against Foreigners.
Whites against blacks
read : Cadmus, boeotia, phoenicians, sea people, alexander the not so great, greek dark age, myceian, liner a+b, dorian, black Athena, troy, and more
Stupid seaGypsies
You still refuse to answer Parmenides's questions!
That's means you are afraid to face the truth;)
Normal....what can you say?NOTHING!
That's why you sniff your drugs there and you live in your own world;)
If you are Gegs....stay away from Tosks....they hate you.....hahahahaha!
Unshod garbage of Europe....go back to Caucasus in Asia and leave Europe in peace and its greek heritage;)

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