Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer - The Greek theory

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The Greek theory

Following the publication of his Trebizond study, Fallmerayer devoted his scholarly activities to another Greek-speaking region of the Middle Ages, namely, the Morea. In particular, he developed his theory that the ancient, "Hellenic," population of the south Balkans had been replaced during the Migration Period by Slavic peoples. A similar idea had already been proposed by the British traveler William Martin Leake, but Fallmerayer turned it into a theory, which he advocated with characteristic zeal.

The first volume of Fallmerayer's Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea während des Mittelalters appeared in 1830, and he expressed his central theory in the foreword as follows:

The race of the Hellenes has been wiped out in Europe. Physical beauty, intellectual brilliance, innate harmony and simplicity, art, competition, city, village, the splendour of column and temple — indeed, even the name has disappeared from the surface of the Greek continent.... Not the slightest drop of undiluted Hellenic blood flows in the veins of the Christian population of present-day Greece.[7]

This phenomenon was further interpreted by Fallmerayer as an indication of the potential of the "Slavic" nations to overwhelm the "Latin" and the "German," a line of thought which he would later develop in his political writings. He further argued that the Great powers who had supported the Greek War of Independence had been led by a "classical intoxication" to misjudge the character of the new Greek state.

The Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea set Fallmerayer at loggerheads with the European philhellenes in general, and with the Bavarian King Ludwig I in particular, a convinced philhellene who already in 1829 had begun to advance the candidacy of his son, Otto, for the Greek throne.(Otto became "King of the Hellenes" in 1832.) Ludwig's philhellenism was in fact grounded in the conviction that the Greek revolt against Ottoman rule represented the return of antique Hellenic virtue.[8] Ludwig's displeasure with Fallmerayer led to a long delay in the confirmation of Fallmerayer's election to the Bavarian Academy of Sciences and Humanities.

The earliest scholarly reviews of Fallmerayer's work were likewise negative. He was accused of philological errors by the Slovenian linguist Jernej Kopitar, and of misreading the historical sources by the historians Johann Zinkeisen and Carl Hopf.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Philipp_Fa...

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As you can clearly see...this individual is a sick twisted person.

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there were plenty of Slavic placenames all the way down to Mani in Morea, you should take a closer look at the books by Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer:

# 1830: Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea während des Mittelalters. Teil 1: Untergang der peloponnesischen Hellenen und Wiederbevölkerung des leeren Bodens durch slavische Volksstämme (History of the Morea Peninsula during the Middle Ages. Part one: Decline of the Peloponnesian Hellenes and repopulation of the empty land by Slavic peoples)(Stuttgart).
# 1835: Welchen Einfluß hatte die Besetzung Griechenlands durch die Slawen auf das Schicksal der Stadt Athen und der Landschaft Attika? Oder nähere Begründung der im ersten Bande der Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea während des Mittelalters aufgestellten Lehre über die Enstehung der heutigen Griechen (What influence did the occupation of Greece by the Slavs have on the fate of the city of Athens and of the countryside of Attica? Or, a more detailed explanation of the theory regarding the origin of the present-day Greeks that was proposed in the first volume of the History of the Morea Peninsula during the Middle Ages)(Stuttgart).
# 1836: Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea während des Mittelalters. Teil 2: Morea, durch innere Kriege zwischen Franken und Byzantinern verwüstet und von albanischen Colonisten überschwemmt, wird endlich von den Türken erobert. Von 1250-1500 nach Christus (Part two: Morea, devastated by internal wars between the Franks and the Byzantines, and inundated by Albanian colonists, is finally captured by the Turks. From 1250 through 1500 A.D.)(Tübingen).

There are also other sources but I cant remember them now

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Mia Zoi Ellada wrote:

For all those who are not familiar with 'M'uD take a look at the link below to see his disinformation campaign:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TM...
As you can clearly see...this individual is a sick twisted person.

MZE i think that your stupidity is endless! Every day i say that you will be a better person (i pray to Jeuss for you - as "Macedonian" you would love Jesus). But, every day you are the same. Classical MZE: Hate, ignorance and propaganda. Man, what will you do if in 10 years time Macedonia and Yunanistan are friends and allies? Or a federation? Will you commit suicide, old Mega Malaka?

[kurajca]

Mia Zoi Ellada wrote:

For all those who are not familiar with 'M'uD take a look at the link below to see his disinformation campaign:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TM...
As you can clearly see...this individual is a sick twisted person.

top dreaming the trouth is you are Ethiopian,http://www.essex.ac.uk/armedcon/images/countr ...
a new country created in 1829-1832. The grikish does not exist, they are mostly Albanians, Turks, Vlahs, Armenians, Macedonians, Gypsy, kutsovlahi, Pondii,
Madgari, Kurdi and many others a country full of **** from everywere.
GRIKS, GREASE, GREECE = BASTARDEMENI,
BE PROUD FOR WHAT YOU ARE KATSIKOPOUSTARADES
"4,000 years of Greek Civilization"
(Some modern Greeks believe in a 4,000 year
existence of a so called "Greek Civilization")

[Macedonian until Death]

GREEKS AND THE ANCIENT HELLENS ARE NOT THE SAME.

IF YOU WANT TO SAY WHO YOU ARE SAID THAT YOU

ARE THE BASTARDS OF THE BALKANS AND YOU MAY USE

THE HISTORY FROM 1832 NOT BEFORE, GREECE OR

HELLASS NEVER EXISTED THEN.

WHEN YOU HEAR GREEK WHAT YOU THINK?

I THINK ALBANIANS, TURKS, VLAHS, MACEDONIANS,

GYPSIES, ARMENIANS, ITALIANS, JEWS, ETHIOPIANS,

KURDISSH, IRANIANS, GERMANS AND OTHERS.GREECE

WAS CREATED FROM THIS PEOPLE NOT TO LONG AGO SO

BE PROUD OF BASTARDEMENI HELLASS OR GAYREECE

[rumath]

I wish all balkanian and slavic states be a federation/EU is a hope.Greeks don't want to know their origin!
They believe that they are clearest , oldist , and only one nation who has right in this part of balkan (right-wingers believe that all the planet belongs to Greece)

"Greeks try to be unhappy,they live out of reallity ,and they are happy cause they are unhappy (LOL)!!!"(N.Dimou: Unhappiness to be Greek)

[Macedonian until Death]

V. Dworakowski, "Fallmerayer and Osterman-Tolstoi: story of a relationship." (in Russian).

http://ostermanniana.ru/Fallmerayer/dwor_fall...

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Universität Innsbruck, Institut für Alte Geschichte und Altorientalistik (in German)
http://www.uibk.ac.at/alte-geschichte-orient/...

[kurajca]

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

da zivee bratstvoto smrt na grcite

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kurajca wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7ntogu3NZyY
da zivee bratstvoto smrt na grcite

Brat ne mi kazuvaj deka i ti si chlen na Makbro ?

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TL...

Pozdrav

[kurajca]

Macedonian until Death wrote:

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Brat ne mi kazuvaj deka i ti si chlen na Makbro ?
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TL...
Pozdrav

uzivaj

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kurajca wrote:

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uzivaj

Ok . Jas sum relativno nov clen vo Makedonskoto bratstvo i gi znam poveketo chlenovi sto se tuka vo Makedonija . Ti sugurno si vrska na bratstvoto vo dijasporata zatoa ne si mi poznat .

Pozdrav

[kurajca]

tocno od dijasporata

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Macedonian until Death wrote:

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Ok . Jas sum relativno nov clen vo Makedonskoto bratstvo i gi znam poveketo chlenovi sto se tuka vo Makedonija . Ti sugurno si vrska na bratstvoto vo dijasporata zatoa ne si mi poznat .
Pozdrav

Ok ...

Pozdrav brat

Za Makedonija za bratstvoto za Hristijantsvoto

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kurajca wrote:

tocno od dijasporata

Ok ...

Pozdrav brat

Za Makedonija za bratstvoto za Hristijantsvoto