Nimetz Arrives in Skopje for 'Name' T...

Nimetz Arrives in Skopje for 'Name' Talks

There are 328 comments on the BalkanInsight.com story from Jan 10, 2013, titled Nimetz Arrives in Skopje for 'Name' Talks. In it, BalkanInsight.com reports that:

Nimetz is set to meet Macedonian officials and present fresh ideas for overcoming the long-standing impasse.

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Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#1 Jan 10, 2013
My suggestions:

GREECE (region): Ancient Macedonia or Aegean Macedonia
FYROM: Republic of Northern Macedonia
BULGARIA (region): Pirin Macedonia

As I said before i don't want to see FYROM use the term "Macedonia" in any part of their new name, but that's not going to happen.

FYROM have to realise no modern day country should have the exclusive right to use the term "Macedonia", all three country should include a geographical qualifier, i think this is the only fair way to solve this problem.
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#2 Jan 10, 2013
Bill_Sydney_Aus wrote:
My suggestions:
GREECE (region): Ancient Macedonia or Aegean Macedonia
FYROM: Republic of Northern Macedonia
BULGARIA (region): Pirin Macedonia
As I said before i don't want to see FYROM use the term "Macedonia" in any part of their new name, but that's not going to happen.
FYROM have to realise no modern day country should have the exclusive right to use the term "Macedonia", all three country should include a geographical qualifier, i think this is the only fair way to solve this problem.
Failed suggestions.

No slav or other can use the Macedonian name, other than the rightful owners which are the GREEKS.
Macedonian

Skopje, Macedonia

#3 Jan 10, 2013
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.

Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#4 Jan 10, 2013
Hi Taratinga

I agree with you 100%,

But the current Greek position is that FYROM can use the term "Macedonia" as long as a geographical qualifier is added and this new composite name has to be used "Erga Omnes" i.e. by everyone on all occasions.

I'm just suggesting what is the most fair way to solve this problem, so everyone can finally move on.
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#5 Jan 10, 2013
Bill_Sydney_Aus wrote:
Hi Taratinga
I agree with you 100%,
But the current Greek position is that FYROM can use the term "Macedonia" as long as a geographical qualifier is added and this new composite name has to be used "Erga Omnes" i.e. by everyone on all occasions.
I'm just suggesting what is the most fair way to solve this problem, so everyone can finally move on.
Not happening under any circumstances. Makedonia purely Greek and will stay Greek.

Their name is Vardaska Banovina.

Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#6 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Im only putting forward a fair solution. What the Greeks are proposing is very fair, I haven't seen FYROM come up with any fair solutions. I don't see you come up with any fair solution either.

What you don't get through your thick head is that FYROM will have to accept a new composite name that is recognised by Greece, IT WILL HAPPEN, until that time comes you will remain on the sideline. Possibly for another 20 years as you slavs are pretty thick.
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#7 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
If Greece's opinion is irrelevant why are you sitting on STILL TO BE DEFINED???? HEY HEY HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#8 Jan 10, 2013
Taratinga wrote:
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Not happening under any circumstances. Makedonia purely Greek and will stay Greek.
Their name is Vardaska Banovina.
As i said before I agree with you 100%,

But what you are saying is not the current Greek position, a geographical qualifier to the term "Macedonia" will be accepted by Greece. You will have to learn to live with it, like i have.
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#9 Jan 10, 2013
Bill_Sydney_Aus wrote:
<quoted text>
Im only putting forward a fair solution. What the Greeks are proposing is very fair, I haven't seen FYROM come up with any fair solutions. I don't see you come up with any fair solution either.
What you don't get through your thick head is that FYROM will have to accept a new composite name that is recognised by Greece, IT WILL HAPPEN, until that time comes you will remain on the sideline. Possibly for another 20 years as you slavs are pretty thick.
Lets pass on Greek Legacy and Land to slavs, for the sake of being fair. Not happening.
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#10 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Sit on it then.

Albanians will sit on you. Hey hey hey hey.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Greece

#11 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Nimetz Arrives in Skopje for "Name" Talks!

Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#12 Jan 10, 2013
Taratinga wrote:
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Lets pass on Greek Legacy and Land to slavs, for the sake of being fair. Not happening.
I agree with you, but this name issue won't ever be solved if we think like you, both countries have to meet in the middle, only way this will be solved. There appears to be more current political pressure from Europe to solve this issue sooner rather than later.

The Ancient Macedonians spread a Hellenic culture that can never be disputed as it is backed up with historical evidence, Greeks have no problem here and the Nationalist in FYROM will never be able to discredit this fact. Remember it is only the nationalist in FYROM which think there is a link between their modern day country and the Ancient Macedonians.

At the end of the day Macedonia is a region which covers an area of 3 modern day countries, if a geographical qualifier is added, then the world can easily distinguish the difference between the different areas.

What suggestions do you put forward to solve this issue, I like to hear them.

Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#13 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
What suggestions do you put forward to solve this mess?
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#14 Jan 10, 2013
Bill_Sydney_Aus wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you, but this name issue won't ever be solved if we think like you, both countries have to meet in the middle, only way this will be solved. There appears to be more current political pressure from Europe to solve this issue sooner rather than later.
The Ancient Macedonians spread a Hellenic culture that can never be disputed as it is backed up with historical evidence, Greeks have no problem here and the Nationalist in FYROM will never be able to discredit this fact. Remember it is only the nationalist in FYROM which think there is a link between their modern day country and the Ancient Macedonians.
At the end of the day Macedonia is a region which covers an area of 3 modern day countries, if a geographical qualifier is added, then the world can easily distinguish the difference between the different areas.
What suggestions do you put forward to solve this issue, I like to hear them.
Have you heard of (give an inch will take a mile)??

Macedonia is an intrinsic part of Greece, never to be given away to slavs or other, for the sake of fairness. Who will be next to take from Greece??? Plenty to give away.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Greece

#15 Jan 10, 2013
http://www.balkans.com/open-news.php...
The end of Fyrom games!
The SkopianoBulgarians from Fyrom is panic!

Since: Jul 12

Brighton-Le-Sands, Sydney

#16 Jan 10, 2013
Taratinga wrote:
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Have you heard of (give an inch will take a mile)??
Macedonia is an intrinsic part of Greece, never to be given away to slavs or other, for the sake of fairness. Who will be next to take from Greece??? Plenty to give away.
Agree with you 100%,

If FYROM accept a composite name like Republic of Northern Macedonia, then both Greeks and people in FYROM would probably not be happy, but both people will have to learnt to live with it. This is what compromise means. I believe the Greek government is genuinely interested in solving this name issue once and for all.

I am just stating the current Greek position, which I believe is way too generous and is too inclined on the side of FYROM. All the nationalist bullshit your coming up with is just that, bullshit. You are starting to sound like the nationalists on the side of FYROM, emulating the bullshit they go on with on this site.

Ancient Macedonians spread a Hellenic culture. Remember we don't live in the ancient world, we live in modern day countries.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Greece

#17 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
http://youtu.be/mIRe5tnqRKM
Who cares what a stealer nation like you says?
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#18 Jan 10, 2013
Taratinga wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you heard of (give an inch will take a mile)??
Macedonia is an intrinsic part of Greece, never to be given away to slavs or other, for the sake of fairness. Who will be next to take from Greece??? Plenty to give away.
THIS ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT THE NAME!==>>IT'S ABOUT TERRITORIAL CLAIMS ON HELLENIC SOIL!A THREAT FOR WAR ==>>THE REASON WHY THE ONLY SOLUTION IS A MILITARY SOLUTION!EVEN IF THEY CHANGE THEIR NAME!THE THREAT ON HELLENIC SOIL WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST!I SAY LET THE GREEK AIRFORCE LOOSE&WIPE THEM OFF THE MAP ONCE AND FOR ALL!LIKE THE RUSSIANS DID TO THE GEORGIAN MORON ==>>Mikheil Saakashvili!!!
Taratinga

Toronto, Canada

#19 Jan 10, 2013
Bill_Sydney_Aus wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you, but this name issue won't ever be solved if we think like you, both countries have to meet in the middle, only way this will be solved. There appears to be more current political pressure from Europe to solve this issue sooner rather than later.
The Ancient Macedonians spread a Hellenic culture that can never be disputed as it is backed up with historical evidence, Greeks have no problem here and the Nationalist in FYROM will never be able to discredit this fact. Remember it is only the nationalist in FYROM which think there is a link between their modern day country and the Ancient Macedonians.
At the end of the day Macedonia is a region which covers an area of 3 modern day countries, if a geographical qualifier is added, then the world can easily distinguish the difference between the different areas.
What suggestions do you put forward to solve this issue, I like to hear them.
Have No suggestions whatsoever for solving a slavic identity problem. Greece should stay out of this, needs no recognition or identity, they are not the ones usurping land, distorting and stealing neighbours' history.

Those who are rejecting their roots trying to grow new, should be the concerned party.

BUT.........

Greece will have enormous problems once they start being generous with their legacy and land.
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#20 Jan 10, 2013
Macedonian wrote:
As I said before, it's not up to you.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
WITHOUT THE GREEK CONSENT==>>YOU WILL REMAIN FYROM FOR ANOTHER 20 YRS==>>OUT OF BOTH NATO&EU==>>UNTIL YOUR CANCEROUS FABRICATED SLAVOBULGARIAN STATELET BECOMES DIVIDED!DISSOLVED&EXTERMIN ATED!

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