Greek Crisis Shows Weak International...

Greek Crisis Shows Weak International Ethics

There are 25 comments on the Global Politician story from Nov 11, 2012, titled Greek Crisis Shows Weak International Ethics. In it, Global Politician reports that:

One good thing that may come out of the Greek and Euro debt crisis is a better understanding that truth has a monetary value and turning a blind eye to dishonesty can cost dearly.

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Xenofon

Toronto, Canada

#1 Nov 11, 2012
Victor Bivell, the author of this article, is a turkoslav that believes his own bullsh!t. He's obviously grasping at straws. These animals are ashamed of their Slav Bulgarian past so they try their hardest to find some diluded connection between their miserable insignificant Slavic history and tie it to the great Hellenic kingdom of Macedon. You animals are just a bunch of settlers!

Makedonia was born Greek!
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#2 Nov 11, 2012
VICTOR BIVELL==>>LIKE THE ROMNEY RIDICULE IS A SHAMELESS SLAVOSKOPIAN TURKOFILE PROSTITUTE!WHO TRIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EUROPEAN CRISIS!AFFECTING MOST OF THE EUROZONE STATES INCLUDING GREECE!HE DESPERATELY TRIES TO DEFAME GREECE BY SPREADING YUGOSLAVIAN COMMUNIST LIES&PROPAGANDA!THE YUGOCOMMIE IMBECILE COMPLETELY DISREGARDS AND DEFENDS THE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY THE OTTOMAN GENOCIDE BLOOD THIRSTY MUSLIM SAVAGES!WHO MURDERED MILLIONS OF COMPLETELY INNOCENT ARMENIAN&PONTIAN GREEK PEOPLE INCLUDING WOMEN&CHILDREN!TORTURING THEM WITH IMPALEMENT THE MOST HORRIFIC FORM OF TORTURE KNOWN TO MAN!
*** HE DISREGARDS AND DEFENDS THE TURKISH ATROCITIES COMMITTED ON THE CYPRIOT PEOPLE!WHO EXPATRIATED THOUS OF GREEK CYPRIOTS BY KILLING THOUS&ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED THEIR HOMES!CONDEMNED AND NOT RECOGNIZED BY ALL UN MEMBERS!
*** HE DISREGARDS AND SUPPORTS THE DAILY PROVOCATIONS AND VIOLATIONS BY THE TURKISH SAVAGES OVER THE GREEK AIR SPACE!
*** HE DISREGARDS AND SUPPORTS THE TURKISH INTERFERENCE AND INVOLVEMENT OVER THE GREEK MUSLIMS IN EASTERN THRACE!
GREECE!
*** HE DISREGARDS AND SUPPORTS FYROMS COLLABORATION WITH THE TURKISH SAVAGES!AGAINST GREECE!!
*** HE COMPLETELY DISREGARDS THE DEEDS OF HIS YUGOCOMMIE FATHERS WHO IMPOSED COMMUNISM UPON GREECE!KILLING THOUS OF INNOCENT GREEK PEOPLE&THE KIDNAPPING OF THE GREEK CHILDREN FROM ALL OVER GREECE DURING THE CIVIL WAR OF 1945!!
*** HE DISREGARDS THE MISTREATMENT OF FYROMS ETHNIC ALBANIANS OF 2001!AND THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS EVEN TODAY!FORCING THEM TO REBEL AND GO TO WAR!
*** HE DISREGARDS THE FACT THAT GREECE HAS ALLOWED THESE SLAVOSKOPIAN RAINBOW PROSTITUTES TO FORM THEIR OWN SLAVOSKOPIAN RAINBOW PARTY!WHICH IS UNHEARD IN ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!
*** THIS LYING SLAVOSKOPIAN IMBECILE IS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE WORLD THAT BY MISAPPROPRIATING THE HELLENIC NAME MACEDONIAN IN NAMING HIS SLAVOBULGARIAN DIALECT!IT'S A MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE!==>>WHEN IN FACT IT'S MACEDONIAN NOTHING==>>IT'S A SLAVIC LANGUAGE WHICH BELONGS TO THE SAME FAMILY TREE OF ALL THE SLAVIC LANGUAGES!SPOKEN BY SLAVS==>BUT NEVER BY MACEDONIANS!THE REASON WHY THEY ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE NOT EVEN ONE NON HELLENIC MACEDONIAN INSCRIPTION IN THEIR SLAVOBULGARIAN DIALECT!
*** THIS LYING SLAVIC RIDICULE SHOULD BE HANGED BY THE TONGUE!

“Makedonija”

Since: Nov 12

e Vecna

#4 Nov 12, 2012
HAHAHA!

Hey Greex, how's the Wienerschnitzel working out for you?

Stupid Ethiopians!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Greece

#5 Nov 12, 2012
Makedonia Zasekogas wrote:
HAHAHA!
Hey Greex, how's the Wienerschnitzel working out for you?
Stupid Ethiopians!
http://youtu.be/H6aFucV9EtM
You still believe that,your "language" is a Macedonian??
Even the sheeps in Fyrom knows that,your language is Bulgarian.
GayreeksareTurko Shiptari

United States

#6 Nov 12, 2012
Just keep ignoring the truth and proof in the facts in my posts that I post to you Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) cause it won't get you's Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) far when it finally defaults on their countries debt, declares bankruptcy, gets kicked out of the Eurozone and the European Union then sell all of their countries land and islands to their neighbor countries for money to pay off their countries debts as they watch the land that used to be Gayreece (Hell Ass) become part of Greater Albania, Greater Turkey, Greater Serbia and Greater United Macedonia and as we watch the Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) run back to their mother lands mother Albania and mother Turkey and watch them look for their long lost ancestors and real roots in Albania and Turkey so they can get their Shiptare (Albanian) and Turkish passports so they can go back to their Shiptare (Albanian) and Turkish roots.
Lmfao!
XD
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#7 Nov 12, 2012
GayreeksareTurkoShiptari wrote:
Just keep ignoring the truth and proof in the facts in my posts that I post to you Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) cause it won't get you's Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) far when it finally defaults on their countries debt, declares bankruptcy, gets kicked out of the Eurozone and the European Union then sell all of their countries land and islands to their neighbor countries for money to pay off their countries debts as they watch the land that used to be Gayreece (Hell Ass) become part of Greater Albania, Greater Turkey, Greater Serbia and Greater United Macedonia and as we watch the Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) run back to their mother lands mother Albania and mother Turkey and watch them look for their long lost ancestors and real roots in Albania and Turkey so they can get their Shiptare (Albanian) and Turkish passports so they can go back to their Shiptare (Albanian) and Turkish roots.
Lmfao!
XD
YUGOSLAVIAN PROSTITUTE==>>WE WILL INSURE THAT YOUR GRAVE WILL BE DUG IN ADVANCE!BEFORE YOU CAN SET FOOT ON HELLENIC SOIL EVER AGAIN!THAT'S WHEN ALL YOUR RAINBOW QUEERS WILL BE INSTANTLY DECAPITATED!
FyroSkopjan Clowns

Thessaloníki, Greece

#8 Nov 12, 2012
lack of ethics gives rise to ethnic clownism

a must watch
http://youtu.be/ZC_Lpi2ssx4
Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#9 Nov 12, 2012
The "Jew World Order" is coming for a sovereign nation near you...
BulgayriansareTa rtars

United States

#10 Nov 12, 2012
Like I said before and I quote "Just keep ignoring the truth and proof in the facts in my
posts that I post to you Gayreek Gypsies from Gayreece
(Hell Ass) cause it won't get you's Gayreek Gypsies from
Gayreece (Hell Ass) far when it finally defaults on their
countries debt, declares bankruptcy, gets kicked out of
the Eurozone and the European Union then sell all of their
countries land and islands to their neighbor countries for
money to pay off their countries debts as they watch the
land that used to be Gayreece (Hell Ass) become part of
Greater Albania, Greater Turkey, Greater Serbia and
Greater United Macedonia and as we watch the Gayreek
Gypsies from Gayreece (Hell Ass) run back to their
mother lands mother Albania and mother Turkey and
watch them look for their long lost ancestors and real
roots in Albania and Turkey so they can get their Shiptare
(Albanian) and Turkish passports so they can go back to
their Shiptare (Albanian) and Turkish roots.".
Lmfao!
XD
The Lie Detector

Malvern, Australia

#11 Nov 13, 2012
Xenofon wrote:
Victor Bivell, the author of this article, is a turkoslav that believes his own bullsh!t. He's obviously grasping at straws. These animals are ashamed of their Slav Bulgarian past so they try their hardest to find some diluded connection between their miserable insignificant Slavic history and tie it to the great Hellenic kingdom of Macedon. You animals are just a bunch of settlers!
Makedonia was born Greek!
hahahah, said the gypsy prosfyg turk settler , even your fake king otto said WHERE ARE ALL THE GREKS IN ATHENS..go home gypsy spawn, you are nothing but street scum handout junkies!!!
samostojna MK

Canberra, Australia

#12 Nov 13, 2012
Mis Xsenofobia is mentaly undeveloped to think further from Greeco Bulgar concept. To bad.
Bu many pretend historic concepts, Macedonians can not be self proclaimed individual nation of people.
This naro minded concept is killing history and its
meaning on this planet.
Alehander did not invent name Makedon.
he just repossesed it from his father, and so on in ancient time, name Makedon survived from antiquity to Alehander time. Greeks or Elas, or anybody else, did not exist in ancient time before Makedon tribes setled in. There was no Tesalia, or any other well known names, you Greeks took to your selfe existance.
Trust me, ancient Macedonians did not stop reprodusing after Alehander's death.
Descendants still here. Stop rendering us non existant. You have no right to our history heritag and name. Plus many other trinkets Greece is hiding.

“Verba vo BogMakedonec do grob”

Since: Apr 10

London, UK

#14 Nov 13, 2012
HERE IS THE FULL STORY AND IT IS SO TRUE WHAT HE SAYS:
Victor Bivell - 11/11/2012

One good thing that may come out of the Greek and Euro debt crisis is a better understanding that truth has a monetary value and turning a blind eye to dishonesty can cost dearly.

By submitting false data so it could enter the Eurozone, the Greek Government has cost its European partners, its bankers and its own people very dearly. It has become an example of what can happen when a country’s commitment to international agreements and treaties is weak and the international community does not follow-up to ensure compliance.

But rather than work to restore its reputation, Greece has hurt it further with its weak commitment to fully implement the terms of its financial bailout agreement, the largest in history.

Politicians, bankers and the public should not be surprised at this behaviour. Even a cursory look at Greece’s record shows that Greek governments have a long history of little regard for international organizations and agreements that do not suit it. Along with the European Union, these organizations include the United Nations, the European Court of Human Rights and the International Court of Justice.

This lack of respect is particularly poor with human rights, and goes back a long way.

An early example that still reverberates today was disregard for the League of Nations. In 1920, Greece signed the Treaty Concerning the Protection of Minorities in Greece (see http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/dfat/treat... ). It did so because 11 years earlier after the Balkan Wars, Greece annexed half of the territory of what had been Ottoman Macedonia and took control of its large and diverse population.

Macedonia was famous for its multicultural population, and its many ethnic, religious and linguistic groups became minorities in Greece. It was international concern about these people that led Greece to sign the Treaty with the League of Nations.

Yet from the beginning Greece failed to honour the Treaty and even today, 92 years later, it continues to assert that it has no ethnic minorities and only one religious minority (the Muslims in western Thrace).

Even today the co-signatories to the Treaty continue to allow Greece to continue to make these two false assertions. The co-signatories are Britain, France, Italy, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and India.

When during the 1990s and 2000s the European Court of Human Rights told Greece to recognize specific minorities, Greece ignored its judgements. For example, in 1998 the Court told Greece to allow the establishment of a Home of Macedonian Culture. 14 years later this still has not happened.

The United Nations, which is the successor organization to the League of Nations, has also tried to steer Greece in the right direction.

“Verba vo BogMakedonec do grob”

Since: Apr 10

London, UK

#15 Nov 13, 2012
CONT:
In 2008 its independent expert on minority issues told Greece to recognize its Turkish, Roma, Macedonian, Pomak and other ethnic minorities. It also told Greece to recognize its religious minorities - Catholics, Baha’i, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Jews, non-Greek Orthodox Christians, and Muslims outside of western Thrace.(see http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refwor... )

The Greek government refused. It repeated that it has no ethnic minorities and only one religious minority, and ignored the United Nations and its report.

Human rights group Greek Helsinki Monitor says ‘Greece systematically fails to execute European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) judgments, European Committee for Social Rights (ECSR) decisions and UN Human Rights Committee (UN HRC) views.’

To that list we can now add the International Court of Justice (ICJ). The ICJ is part of the United Nations and the highest court on Earth. Its decisions cannot be appealed.

In December 2011, the Court found that Greece had violated a 1995 Interim Accord under which it had signed not to block Macedonia’s entry into international organizations if Macedonia entered under the name former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

Despite the Interim Accord, in 2008 Greece vetoed Macedonia’s entry into NATO. Although the Greek government defended its action, the Court agreed with Macedonia that Greece had broken its commitment.(see http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/142/16827... )

Although Greece was found in the wrong, the Greek government did not comply with the decision. On the contrary. At the NATO Summit in Chicago earlier this year, Macedonia sought to have its membership put on the agenda. This would have given Greece the chance to correct its stance, fulfill its legal commitment, and add another brick to world security.

Instead, Greece was reported to have fought hard to have the issue left off the Agenda, thus continuing to deny Macedonia entry to NATO and showing it has not learnt its lesson from the International Court of Justice decision.

After many years Europe is now alert to Greece’s record as an international citizen. Before the Greek election in May, Germany and France insisted that Greek politicians sign a pledge that after the election they would not back down on the commitments they made as part of the massive Greek financial bailout.

Yet the follow-up Greek election in June was presented as a referendum on whether Greece would stick to the agreed bailout, and the party that wanted to renege on the bailout was a close second in the election.

At its root the Greek debt crisis is about fairness and truth.

“Verba vo BogMakedonec do grob”

Since: Apr 10

London, UK

#16 Nov 13, 2012
CONT:
It is about fairness as Greece’s long suffering minorities wonder how the world can be so generous in its debt forgiveness and patience with Greece, while Greece is so consistently ungenerous with its own people.

It is about truth as it shows that international ethics need to be stronger. It is not enough to be for truth. The international community needs to be against deceit. It needs to show more resolve to ensure countries do what they say they will do. Perhaps events would have worked out differently, and a lot cheaper, if way back in 1920 and in the 1990s the international community had made Greece stick to its word and honour its international agreements and judgements.

That may have shown Greece that its word should mean something. Instead of the mess it is in today, Greece might have developed into an honest and valued international citizen.
It’s not too late.

Victor Bivell is the publisher of 12 books on human rights in Greece.

THE MAN KNOWS WAHT HE IS TALKING ABOUT'
greeks I know you don,t like the truth but you got to suck it up.
samostojna MK

Canberra, Australia

#17 Nov 14, 2012
Xenofon wrote:
Victor Bivell, the author of this article, is a turkoslav that believes his own bullsh!t. He's obviously grasping at straws. These animals are ashamed of their Slav Bulgarian past so they try their hardest to find some diluded connection between their miserable insignificant Slavic history and tie it to the great Hellenic kingdom of Macedon. You animals are just a bunch of settlers!
Makedonia was born Greek!
There are many schools but not for you.
You can not diferenciate betwin truth and fantazy.
All you prove is that Greeks are MAD with rasisam.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Dráma, Greece

#18 Nov 14, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
<quoted text>
There are many schools but not for you.
You can not diferenciate betwin truth and fantazy.
All you prove is that Greeks are MAD with rasisam.
http://youtu.be/mIRe5tnqRKM
What a shame to be Fyromian.
Xenofon

Canada

#19 Nov 14, 2012
"It did so because 11 years earlier after the Balkan Wars, Greece annexed half of the territory of what had been Ottoman Macedonia and took control of its large and diverse population."

What you Turkoslavs call the annexation of Makedonia we and the rest of the civilized world call liberation and reconnection to the the historic Hellenic motherland! You animals are just a bunch of settlers!

Remember, Megas Alexandros didn't spread Slavism on his conquests. He spread Hellenism!

Makedonia was born Greek not Vardarskan Turkoslavic!

“Makedonija”

Since: Nov 12

e Vecna

#20 Nov 14, 2012
Bye bye Grease

Since: Oct 12

Thessaloníki, Greece

#21 Nov 15, 2012
Makedonia Zasekogas wrote:
Bye bye Grease
Bye bye Monkeydonia.
GayreeksareTurko Shiptari

United States

#22 Nov 18, 2012
Bye bye Hell Ass and say hello to Greater Albania! Greater Turkey and Greater United Macedonia.

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