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“The Rose”

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Athens: a history, from ancient ideal to modern city
By Robin Waterfield

Book overview
Perhaps no other city looms larger in our cultural and historical imagination than Athens. For two and a half millennia, people have looked to the city's past as a beacon of genuine democracy, artistic expression, and the classical ideal. In this engaging narrative, noted classicist Robin Waterfield traces the life and history of Athens, a city whose idealized past continues to inspire the present.

This is the only book to cover the entire history of Athens, from its brief period of classical greatness through its decline under a series of ****occupying empires-Macedonian,****Roman,* ***Byzantine, and Turkish-to**** its resurrection in the modern era. Waterfield brings the city vividly to life through the colorful and varied individuals who shaped her history, from Solon, the founder of her democracy, to Pericles, Socrates, Euripides, and the other geniuses of the fifth century, and right up to more recent figures, such as Lord Byron and Baron de Coubertin, founder of the modern Olympics.As Waterfield shows, the memory of Athens' glorious past-even if that memory is a myth-has inspired generations, and offers vital lessons for the current era.

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Mlle Lenormand

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#15307
Nov 11, 2009
 
david wrote:
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present day greeks are slavic tattars with a touch of pheonician egyptic blood. have a good day.
Hi! You must be new..well..looks like we have a lot of pseudo scientists on here. We greeks kicked slavo tatar behind. We didn't mate with it though. Nice try....next!
dodona

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#15308
Nov 11, 2009
 
arbanitia it will be again and revolution will break ,this will end the perverted and corrupted stop playing with our people..Arbanon language will be spoken for thousands of years more afterwards ...!
Andre Hesou

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Nov 11, 2009
 
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dodona wrote:
arbanitia it will be again and revolution will break ,this will end the perverted and corrupted stop playing with our people..Arbanon language will be spoken for thousands of years more afterwards ...!
ahahhahahahaha you are so delusional its funny!! "arbanitia it will be again and revolution will break" ahahhhahahahahha

You are a funny bloke!!
MEGA HATER

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#15310
Nov 11, 2009
 
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Calm down, calm down.....man...don't be angry..
No body will call you a persian or avar.....
You are a Turk.
HE IS NOT EVEN A TURK.
HE IS.... SOMEONE OR SOMETHING.
THEY STILL ARE LOOKING FOR IDENTITY -LIKE FYROMIANOMALAKES.
Mlle Lenormand

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#15311
Nov 11, 2009
 
dodona wrote:
arbanitia it will be again and revolution will break ,this will end the perverted and corrupted stop playing with our people..Arbanon language will be spoken for thousands of years more afterwards ...!
It's okay to dream.
MEGA HATER

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#15312
Nov 11, 2009
 
dodona wrote:
arbanitia it will be again and revolution will break ,this will end the perverted and corrupted stop playing with our people..Arbanon language will be spoken for thousands of years more afterwards ...!
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
KOKORETSI ANYONE;
syd

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#15313
Nov 11, 2009
 
LOLLOLOL!
david

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#15314
Nov 11, 2009
 
Dodona is right, Arbanon will be spoken again, because it was the first language of greeks before the arrival of persian christians, and christian turks in the peloponessus,

he is right about that, i will give you that much,

albaniansare the true atheniana,and epirians,

like i said forty five percent of greece was albanian territory, thessaly, epirus and athens,

albanian speaking cities,
Mlle Lenormand

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#15315
Nov 11, 2009
 
david wrote:
Dodona is right, Arbanon will be spoken again, because it was the first language of greeks before the arrival of persian christians, and christian turks in the peloponessus,
he is right about that, i will give you that much,
albaniansare the true atheniana,and epirians,
like i said forty five percent of greece was albanian territory, thessaly, epirus and athens,
albanian speaking cities,
Can you David... give us a whole definition of where we came from?Are you a historian? I didn't think so either. You are just all jealous Slavs and Slobos trying to steal Greece's rich history.It's sad when people like yourselves don't like yourselves.
Mlle Lenormand

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#15316
Nov 11, 2009
 
david wrote:
Dodona is right, Arbanon will be spoken again, because it was the first language of greeks before the arrival of persian christians, and christian turks in the peloponessus,
he is right about that, i will give you that much,
albaniansare the true atheniana,and epirians,
like i said forty five percent of greece was albanian territory, thessaly, epirus and athens,
albanian speaking cities,
By the way...those monkey faces have the Albos have a different look from the Greeks. Where are their marbles? Inscriptions on coins with Greek writing to prove that they were greeks too.
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albanians know who they are, okay, the real question is who are the present day greeks,

thats what i want to know,

when the entire cities in greece including athens were all speaking albanians, the ancient tongue of epirians, and athenians,
Mlle Lenormand

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david wrote:
albanians know who they are, okay, the real question is who are the present day greeks,
thats what i want to know,
when the entire cities in greece including athens were all speaking albanians, the ancient tongue of epirians, and athenians,
Can I ask you a question ass hat? Why do you stop at us greeks of who we are today. You don't think the other trash in the balkans have not been f***ked by Turks in their territory? Mind you the Slavs had them on their turf longer and even kept them?Look at Albos and Armenians.. you don't think? You think we don't know what you filthy scum is up to? You know it's sad that you people have to steal another's identity for sake of feeling better about yourselves. I think it's sad. We speak our language till this day. All languages evolve too. But we still have our alphabet. We can still read what our ancestors wrote and pretty much understand it till this day. Can a damn Slav understand it? Can an Albanian? No! Who does it belong to this history? That's right us.
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Mlle Lenormand wrote:
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Can I ask you a question ass hat? Why do you stop at us greeks of who we are today. You don't think the other trash in the balkans have not been f***ked by Turks in their territory? Mind you the Slavs had them on their turf longer and even kept them?Look at Albos and Armenians.. you don't think? You think we don't know what you filthy scum is up to? You know it's sad that you people have to steal another's identity for sake of feeling better about yourselves. I think it's sad. We speak our language till this day. All languages evolve too. But we still have our alphabet. We can still read what our ancestors wrote and pretty much understand it till this day. Can a damn Slav understand it? Can an Albanian? No! Who does it belong to this history? That's right us.
no i stop at you, because you guys are the biggest racists and oppressors plus,

why are you fckers stealing albanian history,

by the way i dont hate greek culture, okay, i hate idiots for doing stupid shit,

okay albanians know who they are,

if the greeks always spoke greek, why didnt they speak greek around seventeenth century when all of greece was albanian speaking population, forty five percent to be exact,

okay like i said i know who the albanians are,

plus we know where the real albanian peripehery is,

you keep dreaming about fairy tales and unicorns,

okay ancient epirians, illyrians and thessalians, hated the persian greeek, as the matte of fact alexander the great killed two hundred colonies of greeks,

albanian deserve a place in greece, because they have been there for three thousand years, it has nothing to do with religion,

okay, we are the autochtones, pure and simple.
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#15320
Nov 12, 2009
 
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if i was turkish i would say i am turkish but i am not, i do hate avaric asiatic fckers like you though because you guys are butchers and killers,
it has nothing to do with race,.
be happy of who you are you fck SERVINE, AVARIC SHIT,
dont preach to me little Nobody turko. You are writting your pathetic venoms about race, you are the fascist imbecille that curses the Greeks with all sort of names, your are the poor bastard barking out of envy.

Now little nazi prick kneel and get what you deserve as the rest of your turkopathetic bastards of our lands.
Dont ever talk like that about the Greeks that gave you your life, and pay respect to the strugles that the GREEKS and their allies in the balkans achieved. READY HISTORY miserable bastard. READY and cry.
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Nov 12, 2009
 
david wrote:
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no i stop at you, because you guys are the biggest racists and oppressors plus,
why are you fckers stealing albanian history,
by the way i dont hate greek culture, okay, i hate idiots for doing stupid shit,
okay albanians know who they are,
if the greeks always spoke greek, why didnt they speak greek around seventeenth century when all of greece was albanian speaking population, forty five percent to be exact,
okay like i said i know who the albanians are,
plus we know where the real albanian peripehery is,
you keep dreaming about fairy tales and unicorns,
okay ancient epirians, illyrians and thessalians, hated the persian greeek, as the matte of fact alexander the great killed two hundred colonies of greeks,
albanian deserve a place in greece, because they have been there for three thousand years, it has nothing to do with religion,
okay, we are the autochtones, pure and simple.
stop talking out of your ass little bastard. if you are Albanian pay respects to the ones that have BUILD your country and continue to support it.

Stop this pathetic and hillarius rascist attack , because you are discrasing the Albanians as a whole.

AND NEVER TALK ABOUT THE OTTOMAN ERA, YOU LITTLE PRICK, WE ALL KNOW WHAT SOME WELL KNOWN ALBANIANS WERE DOING.

AND NO, THE FACT THAT ALBANIAN WAS SPOKEN DOESNT MAKE ANYONE ALBANIAN AND DOESNT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SUGGEST SO, LITTLE UNEDUCATED BASTARD.

WE ARE THE ONES . follow as your generations are doing from the time of their arrival.

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#15322
Nov 12, 2009
 
david wrote:
albanians know who they are, okay, the real question is who are the present day greeks,
thats what i want to know,
when the entire cities in greece including athens were all speaking albanians, the ancient tongue of epirians, and athenians,
the present day greeks know far better than you fascist prick who they are.
Get your fascist attidude to the toilet where you belong. Turkoslaves you deserve what you get.

now talk to me about my history envious poor bastard. Try to be somebody Mr Nobody.
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#15323
Nov 12, 2009
 
dodona wrote:
arbanitia it will be again and revolution will break ,this will end the perverted and corrupted stop playing with our people..Arbanon language will be spoken for thousands of years more afterwards ...!
another albanian preaching .... to the Greeks.

we have a saying in Greece, "give courage to the villager and he will get on your bed."

NOBODY IS PLAYING WITH YOUR (lol) PEOPLE LITTLE FASCIST PRICK No2.

The ottoman leftovers are gathered in your country like it or not.
The dialect that our people were speaking, they did it for survival little TURKOLOVER.

NOW SHUT YOUR VENOMUS MOUTH BOTH OF YOU. pathetic vultures
GREEK MACEDON

Athens, Greece

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#15324
Nov 12, 2009
 
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present day greeks are slavic tattars with a touch of pheonician egyptic blood. have a good day.
make up your mind. when slavs of skopia say macedonians are slavs you say yes. then you continue by sayings greeks are persian. now you state that greeks are slavic tattars. Hence you mean greeks are macedonians by skopian standards. have a good day marsian.
dodona

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Nov 12, 2009
 
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another albanian preaching .... to the Greeks.
we have a saying in Greece, "give courage to the villager and he will get on your bed."
NOBODY IS PLAYING WITH YOUR (lol) PEOPLE LITTLE FASCIST PRICK No2.
The ottoman leftovers are gathered in your country like it or not.
The dialect that our people were speaking, they did it for survival little TURKOLOVER.
NOW SHUT YOUR VENOMUS MOUTH BOTH OF YOU. pathetic vultures
who is the villager ? and what dialect you were speaking just because turkolover ..nobody loves them here what we say " per hir te vjerres shko e fle me mullixhine" we are liberators not fascist and you are slav detector and not albanian ..you mix things a lot ..but you do not have courage to change greece what you ask from the others confused people you are ..
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