HERODOTUS..everything greek is EGYPTIAN ORIGIN...

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About Heracles I heard the account given that he was of the number of the twelve gods; but of the other Heracles whom the Hellenes know I was not able to hear in any part of Egypt: and moreover to prove that the Egyptians did not take the name of Heracles from the Hellenes, but rather the Hellenes from the Egyptians,
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As Parmenides asserts, nothing comes out of nothing; everything has its beginning, its origin, its cause. Like all things, like all peoples, the ancient Greeks have their origins. These are largely Egyptian, it is clear; Herodotus notes that the Greek debt to Egypt is such common knowledge that he need not speak of it himself: "How it happened that Egyptians came to the Peloponnese, and what they did to make themselves kings in that part of Greece, has been chronicled by other writers; I will add nothing, therefore...." (Histories VI:55) Even acknowledging this sizable influence, Herodotus would have agreed with Hurwit that all the Greeks borrowed or stole became Greek
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Regarding the gods and the rites of their worship, he was convinced of practically all of it being imported from Egypt to Greece. He starts, almost discreetly, in the 49th chapter of the second book: "For it was Melam­pus who taught the Greeks the name of Dionysus, and the way of sacrificing to him." Next, in the fol­lowing paragraph, he broadens the revelation immensely:
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You , as Slavs , have no connection to the what Herodotus said, but we - the Macedonians - are what the rest of the Greeks !Macedonians always had greek names, greek religion, greek language . So speak, better, about the Slavobulgarians and leave us !
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Iamblichus wrote that Thales of Milete had to make it clear to Pythagoras that the latter had to go to Memphis, in Egypt, to study. Thales added that it were the Egyptian priests that were a veritable source of knowledge and information. Thales stated this at a time when he himself was Greece’s most famous and applauded philosopher, even though it would be his protégé Pythagoras who is currently best remembered as the “first philosopher”.
After Socrates’ death, Plato left for Egypt, where he studied for a period of 13 years. His mentor was Sechnuphis, a priest of Heliopolis (modern Cairo and thus near the Great Pyramid).
Years afterwards, Strabo would travel through Egypt. His Egyptian guide showed him where Plato had lived. It was how Plato learned the fable of Thoth and Amun, which he wrote down in Phaedros. Despite its clearly Egyptian source, many “scholars” interpreted that treatise as a “typically Greek” text. They “explained” their anomalous thinking by arguing that the Greeks “bragged”. They argued that the Greeks wanted to make their philosophy appear to be much older than it actually was. Though possible, it is clear that the available evidence (of which we have not even presented one percent) in this case does not warrant such a conclusion. If the Greeks stated they learned their philosophy from the Egyptians, why not simply accept that?
The answer is clear: whereas the ancient Greeks were completely comfortable with their inheritance of the Egyptian philosophy, modern scholars were not. As a result, they have had to jump through hoops to explain certain of Plato’s writings.
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Greek myths take the evidence further. They clearly state that the first “Greeks” were Egyptians, who had colonised the Greek isles and mainland. Diodorus Siculus wrote that Kekrops originated from Egypt and founded Athens as a colony of the Egyptian town of Sais. The goddess Athena was in truth the Egyptian Neith, matron of the city of Sais. Two Greek families, the Eumolpidae and the Ceryces, were said to descend from Egyptian priests. The two families were tasked with the rituals of the goddess Athena. They stated:“and their offerings and their old ceremonies were practiced by the people of Athens in the same manner as it was held with the ancient Egyptians.[These two families] are the only Greeks who swear to Isis and they resemble both facially and in mannerisms the Egyptians.”
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Iamblichus wrote that Thales of Milete had to make it clear to Pythagoras that the latter had to go to Memphis, in Egypt, to study. Thales added that it were the Egyptian priests that were a veritable source of knowledge and information. Thales stated this at a time when he himself was Greece’s most famous and applauded philosopher, even though it would be his protégé Pythagoras who is currently best remembered as the “first philosopher”.
After Socrates’ death, Plato left for Egypt, where he studied for a period of 13 years. His mentor was Sechnuphis, a priest of Heliopolis (modern Cairo and thus near the Great Pyramid).
Years afterwards, Strabo would travel through Egypt. His Egyptian guide showed him where Plato had lived. It was how Plato learned the fable of Thoth and Amun, which he wrote down in Phaedros. Despite its clearly Egyptian source, many “scholars” interpreted that treatise as a “typically Greek” text. They “explained” their anomalous thinking by arguing that the Greeks “bragged”. They argued that the Greeks wanted to make their philosophy appear to be much older than it actually was. Though possible, it is clear that the available evidence (of which we have not even presented one percent) in this case does not warrant such a conclusion. If the Greeks stated they learned their philosophy from the Egyptians, why not simply accept that?
The answer is clear: whereas the ancient Greeks were completely comfortable with their inheritance of the Egyptian philosophy, modern scholars were not. As a result, they have had to jump through hoops to explain certain of Plato’s writings.
The answer is clear:

You are a Pathetic IDIOT
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About Heracles I heard the account given that he was of the number of the twelve gods; but of the other Heracles whom the Hellenes know I was not able to hear in any part of Egypt: and moreover to prove that the Egyptians did not take the name of Heracles from the Hellenes, but rather the Hellenes from the Egyptians,
After you realize you are a Slav immigrant only then is suggested you refer to other subjects regarding Greece or Greek Macedonia.
Find yourself first Skopian Slav and then we talk.:)))
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even your historians know that greece was first colonized by the egyptians.....black gayreeks...
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even your historians know that greece was first colonized by the egyptians.....black gayreeks...
Everything on you is TurkoYugoslavian.
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About Heracles I heard the account given that he was of the number of the twelve gods; but of the other Heracles whom the Hellenes know I was not able to hear in any part of Egypt: and moreover to prove that the Egyptians did not take the name of Heracles from the Hellenes, but rather the Hellenes from the Egyptians,
We are in NATO.Are you?
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even your historians know that greece was first colonized by the egyptians.....black gayreeks...
ok white slavoskopian:)

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About Heracles I heard the account given that he was of the number of the twelve gods; but of the other Heracles whom the Hellenes know I was not able to hear in any part of Egypt: and moreover to prove that the Egyptians did not take the name of Heracles from the Hellenes, but rather the Hellenes from the Egyptians,
Everything you say on greek realities is rotten.
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even your historians know that greece was first colonized by the egyptians.....black gayreeks...
ONLY ONE WORD: IMBECILE!!!!

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...before the Pharaos of Egypt....the 1st human civilisation....
when did they establish Troy ,A VERY REFINED CIVILISATION INDEED, if the trojan war has happened between 14th-10th ce BC?

The Greek-Vlachs in your 'fine' country are their descendants.You ought not pretend you do not aknowledge their existence!
Do that first and then bother with the very deep antiquity....boxheads!

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fake , faker a a Scop....

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The THRACIANS are neither Bulgars nor Roumanians;they are simply not Asiatics of any kind...and all of you 'Zlavotatarski' stop with that vampirism on the hellenic past!
They gave our God-doctors,they had the nature-culture most probably at the base of all european Druidism they had developed architecture,and the Fine Arts long before others....
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Strabo would travel through Egypt. His Egyptian guide showed him where Plato had lived. It was how Plato learned the fable of Thoth and Amun, which he wrote down in Phaedros. Despite its clearly Egyptian source, many “scholars” interpreted that treatise as a “typically Greek” text. They “explained” their anomalous thinking by arguing that the Greeks “bragged”. They argued that the Greeks wanted to make their philosophy appear to be much older than it actually was. Though possible, it is clear that the available evidence (of which we have not even presented one percent) in this case does not warrant such a conclusion. If the Greeks stated they learned their philosophy from the Egyptians, why not simply accept that?
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Greek myths take the evidence further. They clearly state that the first “Greeks” were Egyptians, who had colonised the Greek isles and mainland. Diodorus Siculus wrote that Kekrops originated from Egypt and founded Athens as a colony of the Egyptian town of Sais. The goddess Athena was in truth the Egyptian Neith, matron of the city of Sais. Two Greek families, the Eumolpidae and the Ceryces, were said to descend from Egyptian priests. The two families were tasked with the rituals of the goddess Athena. They stated:“and their offerings and their old ceremonies were practiced by the people of Athens in the same manner as it was held with the ancient Egyptians.[These two families] are the only Greeks who swear to Isis and they resemble both facially and in mannerisms the Egyptians.”
Martin Bernal adds that Neith was written as “Ht” in Egyptian. This was pronounced “Ath” or “At”. This means that even in Sais, the ancient goddess Neith was addressed as “Athanait”, with the Greeks later chosing to call the “nait” ending for Neith, rather than the “Athan” for “Athena”. Such verbal gymnastics aside, it is known that the Greek writer Charax of Pergamon, in ca. 200 AD, wrote that the inhabitants of Sais referred to their town as “Athenai”.
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The facts are vastly different and radically speak against any such revisionist thinking. The Greek city of Thebes was founded by two brothers, Amphion and Zethos. They were claimed to be the sons of Zeus, with a mortal, known as Antiope. It was a typically Egyptian concept for the king to state that he was born of god. This was purely symbolic – but it should be realised that it was symbolic for the ancient Greeks also.
In 1971, Greek archaeologist Theodore Spyropoulos began his dig on the Amphion hill, which was the legendary burial place of the twins. He soon discovered a stone chamber, deep within the funerary mound. It contained jewellery, including four golden hangers in the shape of lilies… a typically Egyptian motif. He also discovered a vaulted tunnel that ran in several directions. Spyropoulos labelled it a “typically Egyptian tomb”. Further research showed that the tomb dated back to 2900-2400 BC, placing this Greek discovery as a veritable anomaly: there was no Greek civilisation at this time… though there was already an Egyptian civilisation.
It was not the first archaeological discovery that showed such evidence. Greek legend holds that an Egyptian king Danaos landed in Apobathmi, in the Peloponnesus with a great fleet. He made himself ruler and ordered the natives to call themselves "Danaans". Homer states that the Greeks do not call themselves Greeks or Hellenes, but Danaans. Coincidence?

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