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Is Macedonia Hellenic YES or NO

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I voted YES because i know my history.
Alexander the Great was Greek not Yugoslavian
hahahahahaha never heard a dumber answer!!

HAIL TO GEEK INTELLIGENCE!!
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Macedonia is Hellenic
FYRON is Vardarska Banovina

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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh man i die laughing...the geeks act today PERFECT clowns!!

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Vardarska
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Gia sou re LouLou
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POUSTARA tURKOGYFTE
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MAKEDONIA is GREECE !!!
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LouWeed wrote:
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“call these songs Bulgarian and not Slavic, because if someone today should ask the Macedonian Slav "what are you?" he would be immediately be told: "I am Bulgarian" and would call his language "Bulgarian".
*Stefan Verkovich, Bosnian folklorist, "Folk Songs of the Macedonian Bulgarian", Vol. 1

Moreover, the Foreign Minister of the FYROM, Slobodan Casule, in an interview to Utrinski Vesnik of Skopje on December 29, 2001, said that he mentioned to the Foreign Minister of Bulgaria, Solomon Pasi, that they “belong to the same Slav people.”

The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians.
* Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press,(December 1995), p.64

We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are Slavs and our language is closely related to Bulgarian. There is some confusion about our identity.
*Gyordan Veselinov, Macedonia's Ambassador to Canada

24 February 1999: In an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM’s Ambassador to Canada, admitted, "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian." He also commented "there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country."

There is no doubt that they are southern Slavs; they have a language, or a group of varying dialects, that is grammatically akin to Bulgarian but phonetically in some respects akin to Serbian, and which has certain quite distinctive features of its own......In regard to their own national feelings, all that can safely be said is that during the last eighty years many more Slav Macedonians seem to have considered themselves Bulgarian, or closely linked to Bulgaria, than have considered themselves Serbian, or closely linked to Serbia (or Yugoslavia). Only the people of the Skopje region, in the north west, have ever shown much tendency to regard themselves as Serbs. The feeling of being Macedonians, and nothing but Macedonians, seems to be a sentiment of fairly recent growth, and even today is not very deep-rooted.
*Elisabeth Barker, "Macedonia, Its Place in Balkan Power Politics"

..and Uskub, the great majority of the population is Slavic,[...] the middle ages until 1913 called themselves and were called by their neighbors Bulgarians.
*George Hubbard Blakeslee, "The Journal of International Relations"

We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves.
Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", Macedonian Review Editions 1974,(Sofia 1903)

But even stranger is the name Macedonians, which was imposed on us only 10 to 15 years ago by outsiders, and not as something by our own intellectuals... Yet the people in Macedonia know nothing of that ancient name, reintroduced today with a cunning aim on the one hand and a stupid one on the other. They know the older word: "Bugari", although mispronounced: they have even adopted it as peculiarly theirs, inapplicable to other Bulgarians. You can find more about this in the introduction to the booklets I am sending you. They call their own Macedono-Bulgarian dialect the "Bugarski language", while the rest of the Bulgarian dialects they refer to as the "Shopski language".
*Kuzman Shapkarev, in a letter to Prof. Marin Drinov of May 25, 1888
THESSALONIKI

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ofcourse and we are greeks-hellenes our ancestors alexander the great (alexander the second -typical name ) and his faher (filipos ) write in a greek dialect believed in greek ancient gods (12 gods) macedonians participate in ancient olympics where only greek tribes have the permission to participate.in concern of the word hellenes and greek ,hellenes is the ancient name until the first roman years of occupation refered to our great ancestors the romans later gave the name grekoi (greeks) for the people living in the south region of the balkans note that in this era the slavs did not exist in balkania ,later for the byzantines the word hellenes ment the people who believed in the ancient 12-gods relegion and for that were not used because byzantine as an empire and state tried to bring christianity (orthodox) to the regions tha were occupied nevertheless only in the first years of his existance uses the latins as official languege later change into greeks ,our land the stones and the remnand of our glorious past say the truth and will naver be defeated from human stupidity
skopians in their effort to build history in order to maintain their fake state builded by western allies for only to destroy former yugoslavia want to be called macedonians ,well my fellow FRIENDS macedonian blood were spilled in our lands many many times in the past vollontearly
for the glory of our matherland greece we shall not spare it in the future. PEACE AND FRIENDSHIP TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN EARTH!!!

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hahahahahahahah geek dialect, geek gods...etc....

did u ever know that geece and geeks didnt exxist at these times???
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My vote was yes.
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The Olympic Games accepted only athletes from the hellenic land, Hellas. Macedonians were participating in Olympic Games. Macedonia area is like we say Thebes area, Sparta area, Arcadia, Fthiotida area. DIfferent cities but all of them under Hellas.
For example, either you are from London or Manchester it is the same because both cities are english.
Every population with no significant proof of history would like to have history, and what history!!! The macedonian one! Why no one asks a part of the egyptian or roman history?? Pretty comfortable....

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HELL-ASS and BUL-GUSS wrote:
Realizing they will never be a world power, the Greece have decided to settle for being a world nuisance
excuse me, have you realize that you put a GREEK EPIGRAPH in front of your parliament??????????

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

So? Are you try to be Greeks?

Btw, can u read the epigraph? i am here if you want my help mate ;)

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AlexandrosTheGreatGreek wrote:
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excuse me, have you realize that you put a GREEK EPIGRAPH in front of your parliament??????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
So? Are you try to be Greeks?
Btw, can u read the epigraph? i am here if you want my help mate ;)
u speak of self experience??

http://makedonika.wordpress.com/files/2008/11...
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yes macedonia is greek!!
look back to history and you will understand!!

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yes macedonia is greek!!
look back to history and you will understand!!
yes we know, by the treaty signed in 1913 51% of MAKEDONIA become geek!!
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I vote yes
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hey .. if you are as you say macedonian.. speak greek to understand you .. slav ashole .. you are from Vardaska .. and if Greece haven't support you (with business companys as Cosmote and many more) you will not have any money to buy ONE sandwich..:p.. for the freedom of (YOUR) LAND as you saying.. i'm from SERRES i was born here.. and i don't remeber to be a (SLAVE) from greeks.. BECAUSE I'M GREEK-MACEDONIAN.. you was a slave from yugoslavia.. so long.. xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa .. sooooo many years you was a SLAVE... xaxaxaxaxa , and now you wake up and say.. Ohhh i don't have history .. let steal some from Greeks.. GIVE ME ONE PAPER OF A LETTER FROM ALEXANDER WHO HAVE WROTED IN SLAV.. AND I WILL BELIEVE YOU :p

So.. COME AND KISS MY ASS SLAV(E) MAN ...
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yes we know, by the treaty signed in 1913 51% of MAKEDONIA become geek!!
correction only 51% got liberated. Nowdays there are only a few 200.000 Greeks still left in occupied Macedonia,However our brothers in need our brothers in the occupied part of Pelagonia (upper macedonia) need our help so that we ensure that the West Bulgarian regime of Scopia respects their rights even though they dont respect their wish to unite with the rest of the Macedonians and the rest of the Greeks.

However this name dispute is a great chance for the UN Nato and EU and examine closely as they did with Kossovo the rights of the 200.000 North macedonians in Fyrom and their desire to join Greece and thus live outside the fascist oppresive regime of the Scopia.
Maybe the day of liberty for our Macedonian brothers is close and thus the remaining Greeks that were not freed in 1913 by the Turks and the slavs are liberated now.

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Maniot wrote:
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correction only 51% got liberated. Nowdays there are only a few 200.000 Greeks still left in occupied Macedonia,However our brothers in need our brothers in the occupied part of Pelagonia (upper macedonia) need our help so that we ensure that the West Bulgarian regime of Scopia respects their rights even though they dont respect their wish to unite with the rest of the Macedonians and the rest of the Greeks.
However this name dispute is a great chance for the UN Nato and EU and examine closely as they did with Kossovo the rights of the 200.000 North macedonians in Fyrom and their desire to join Greece and thus live outside the fascist oppresive regime of the Scopia.
Maybe the day of liberty for our Macedonian brothers is close and thus the remaining Greeks that were not freed in 1913 by the Turks and the slavs are liberated now.
liberated??

so why ur former king didnt thought so?
Georgios I - The King of the Greeks

Taking into account the developed need for the urgent and temporary organization of the administration of the territories in Macedonia, occupied by the Greek army. At the proposal of the Ministerial Council, we have decided and command the following. The Minister of Justice Mr. K. Raktivan, as representative of the Greek Government, is instructed to organize the affairs concerning the temporary administration of the occupied territories. The president of the Ministerial Council is to announce and carry out this decree.

Salonika, October 31, 1912

Georgios Ministerial Council President Elefterios Venizelos Members:L.K.Koromilas K.D.Raktivan Eman Repulis I.D.Cirimokos L.Mihalakopulos H.A.Stratos
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HELL-ASS and BUL-GUSS wrote:
modern greeks seem to be living in a frappe fantasy, and dont they just love to announce their greekness. no matter what the circumstances are they will always exclaim proudly how greek they are. it defines them completely no matter what the question their first response is well i am greek and blah blah blah. very insecure motherfcukers and so besotted with their turkish culture.
apart from bein a complete fucked up loser who doesnt have anythin to be proud of...have u got anythin at all to say that is not bullshit?
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F_Y_R_ of _McDonalds wrote:
<quoted text> apart from bein a complete fucked up loser who doesnt have anythin to be proud of...have u got anythin at all to say that is not bullshit?
dont worry about him mate he enjoys Hell in his Ass

go for a coffee at Royal and let the idiot talk his bullshit
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