Turkey & MACEDONIA TO OPEN OTTOMAN ARCHIVES!!!

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“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#1 Dec 24, 2012
The truth about MACEDONIA to be revealed!

Turkey and Macedonia co-operate to open Ottoman archives

Turkey and Macedonia are launching a joint project to catalogue, digitalise and share Ottoman archive documents as part of a pilot project that the Turkish National Archives hopes to implement in nearly 40 other countries.

The project aims to further transparent historical research and make the detailed Ottoman archives more accessible to researchers and historians to better understand the social, political and economic life of territories formerly under Ottoman rule.

Macedonia, as a centre of Ottoman rule in the Balkans for over five centuries, contains some of the richest Ottoman archives outside Turkey, including land registers, court documents (kadı) and other detailed documents from the Ottoman period.

But Mustafa Budak, the deputy director of the Prime Ministerial State Archives in Turkey, told SETimes that to date there has been a lack of comprehensive cataloguing and digital processing of the Ottoman archives available in Macedonia.

"We can provide Macedonian authorities with necessary training on archives, with all additional expert staff and equipment," he said

The project could shed light not only on the history of Macedonia, but also provide details about the political and social life of cities like Bitola, known in Turkish as Monastir, which holds a special place for Macedonians and Turks alike.

As the political, economic and cultural centre of the Balkans in the Ottoman era, Pllumi Veliu, the Mufti of Bitola, says documents in the archives will shed light on life in the region and overcome historical inaccuracies that have been created by historians, educational and scientific institutions in Macedonia.

"This project will end all taboos, the entire invented history of Bitola and will reveal the true life of the citizens of this town during Ottoman rule," Veliu told SETimes

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/e...
Bronzilla

Thessaloníki, Greece

#2 Dec 24, 2012
davudoglu 15 hours ago via tweeter

skopje is turdey

alahu akbar

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#3 Dec 24, 2012
Bronzilla wrote:
davudoglu 15 hours ago via tweeter
skopje is turdey
alahu akbar
Changing again?

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/eur...

HEHEEHEHEEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHE EHEHEHEHEHEHE...
Bronzilla

Thessaloníki, Greece

#4 Dec 24, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>Changing again?
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/eur...
HEHEEHEHEEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHE EHEHEHEHEHEHE...
no way out for you

http://www.ict.griffith.edu.au/wiseman/Roman/...
well

Hamilton, Canada

#5 Dec 24, 2012
Monkeydonia is becoming a Turkish vilayet.
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#6 Dec 24, 2012
destroy these scumbags at all costs. they sold thier souls to the devil

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#7 Dec 24, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
The truth about MACEDONIA to be revealed!.........
Let it be !!

But it is iompossible: SlavoSkopians and Turks cannot handle the truth.

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#8 Dec 24, 2012
Istor wrote:
<quoted text>
Let it be !!
But it is iompossible: SlavoSkopians and Turks cannot handle the truth.
THE END of your Never-Neverland and your fake "greex" identities!!!

All the Karajafers, Kara- and -oglu,-ov,-ev, and other minorities surnames will come out!!! NO MORE "Papapapas" and "Poopis Kakass" - ONLY SHAKALAKA BOO-YAKA!!!
Turks are subhuman Mongol

Melbourne, Australia

#9 Dec 24, 2012
Turks are subhuman animals ,pigs

Regards from
Armenian people

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#10 Dec 24, 2012
Ex-PRIME MINISTER: Kostas Karamanlis, former surname: Kalayciouglu (Turk from Asia Minor):
Earlier Karamanlis
"Karamanlis's forefathers lived in Karaman, Turkey. The family's former (Turkish) surname was Kalaycioglu. When the family left Turkey, they changed their surname into 'Karamanlis'."
(Data recently removed from Wikipedia)
But helpfully there's "View history" button, et voila - Karamanlis turned back TURK again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...


ACTUAL PRESIDENT: Karolos Papoulias (Albanian), born June 4, 1929 in Voština (renamed Pogoniani), Epir, is the current Albanian president of Greece. His ancestors changed the name and religion some 100 years ago.
He is the son of Major General Gregorios Papoulias and grandson of SULEIMAN PAPULIA who is known being related to TAHIR PAPULIA, an Albanian dervenaga from 1821.
His grandfather from his mother's side was ZULFIKIAR, a wealthy Albanian landowner from Yanina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannina_Vilayet
Papulias also maintains his friendship with fellow Cham-Albanian classmate Fuat Botsi (now a retired actor) residing in Fieri, Albania.
("History of the Greek Revolution" by Alexandros Sutsos)
http://books.google.mk/books...

Ex-FINANCE MINISTER Evangelos Venizelos (Turkish Gypsy): The journalist Mark Dragoumis questioned the origin of Venizelos' name, suggesting that E. Venizelos, or one of his ancestors, has changed his name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Venize...

And here it is - Venizelos 's real family name is TURKIOZOGLOU:
"According to information since given to this columnist by an Asian Minor scholar specialising in the names of refugee families, the name change dates from shortly after 1922 when an ancestor of the PASOK politician - probably his grandfather - came to Greece from Asia Minor bearing the name of Turkiozoglou (ie "son of a song-writer" as Turkin means song in Turkish) "
http://www.athensnews.gr/old_issue/13255/1678...

Most probably a gypsy from Turkey, as the gypsies are widely known as musicians and blacksmiths.

SOLUNS MAYOR: Yannis Boutaris (Vlach)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiannis_Boutaris

ACTUAL PRIME MINISTER A.Samaras (Vlach): Families of Vlachs from Samarina: Avelas, Agorogiannis, Vrazitikos, Gerasis, Gabetas, Gravanis, Ligouras, Lioupas, SAMARAS, Sarmaniotis, Stimoniaris, Tsaknakis.
http://hellas.teipir.gr/Thesis/Larisa/makrixo...

etc.

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#11 Dec 25, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>THE END of your Never-.........
MALAKA!
Is this Zimbabwe ??:
http://news.pathfinder.gr/world/836682.html

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#12 Dec 26, 2012
LICENSE, Gorgija Pulevski to gather a squad of fighters and fight on side of the Russian army in the Russo-Turkish War:

"To protect the country from the relentless gang grabitelski boshibozuci Cerkezi His Imperatosko Majesty the Supreme Commander allows George Pulevski store company of heroes. Acting independently, the band should remember the purpose for which it was collected and in no way not to raise arms against the peaceful inhabitants obezoruzheni Muslims and Christians. Squad is obliged to assist the Imperial armies, constantly delivering data on the number, mood and movement of the Turkish armies. "

Chief of Staff of the active Army

Adjutant General Nepokojchicki, August 31, 1877

(Artur. A. Nepokojchicki Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Army in the Balkans, NB)

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#13 Dec 26, 2012
LICENSE, Gorgija Pulevski to gather a squad of fighters and fight on side of the Russian army in the Russo-Turkish War:

"In order to protect the country from the relentless gang of bashibuzuk Cerkezians His Majesty Emperor, the Supreme Commander, allows George Pulevski to gather a company of heroes. Acting independently, the band should remember the purpose for which it was formed and in no way to raise arms against the peaceful Muslim and Christian inhabitants. Squad is obliged to assist the Imperial armies, constantly delivering data on the number, mood and movement of the Turkish armies. "

Chief of Staff of the active Army

Adjutant General Nepokojchicki, August 31, 1877

(Artur. A. Nepokojchicki Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Army in the Balkans, NB)
http://www.mn.mk/istorija/7192-General---Agut...

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#14 Dec 27, 2012
Pulevski was Bulgarian: In the poem Samovila Makedonska ('A Macedonian Fairy') published in 1878 in Sofia[11] and also later in a request to the Bulgarian Parliament he expressed his regret about the failure of this unification.[12] Pulevski finally received a government pension in recognition of his service as a Bulgarian volunteer, until his death in 1895.

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Pulevski

Bre Filipako, do you cry with Pulevski when reading Samovila ??

hahahaha
MALAKA !

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#15 Dec 27, 2012
Istor wrote:
MALAKA !
NO MORE "Papapapass" and "Poopis Kakass" - ONLY SHAKALAKA BOO-YAKA!!!
Makedonija is Makedonia

Hausmannstatten, Austria

#16 Dec 27, 2012
Not existed the titoistic Skopian Yugoslavian pseudonation before 1945!

See Ottoman documents!!
II. Statistical information from the Osman yearbook of 1902 for the Monastiri Vilayet.
In the Appendix No 3 there are given the following data for the city of Monastir ( In Slavobulgarian Bitola):
The total population of the city is given as 89.985 people consisting of:
a) Moslems 24.713
b) Greeks and Vlahs 30.036
c) Bulgarians 30.891
d) Jews 4.264

No idea bre fakedonskis Fyromians??

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#17 Dec 27, 2012
Ex-PRIME MINISTER: Kostas Karamanlis, former surname: Kalayciouglu (Turk from Asia Minor):
Earlier Karamanlis
"Karamanlis's forefathers lived in Karaman, Turkey. The family's former (Turkish) surname was Kalaycioglu. When the family left Turkey, they changed their surname into 'Karamanlis'."
(Data recently removed from Wikipedia)
But helpfully there's "View history" button, et voila - Karamanlis turned back TURK again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...


ACTUAL PRESIDENT: Karolos Papoulias (Albanian), born June 4, 1929 in Voština (renamed Pogoniani), Epir, is the current Albanian president of Greece. His ancestors changed the name and religion some 100 years ago.
He is the son of Major General Gregorios Papoulias and grandson of SULEIMAN PAPULIA who is known being related to TAHIR PAPULIA, an Albanian dervenaga from 1821.
His grandfather from his mother's side was ZULFIKIAR, a wealthy Albanian landowner from Yanina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannina_Vilayet
Papulias also maintains his friendship with fellow Cham-Albanian classmate Fuat Botsi (now a retired actor) residing in Fieri, Albania.
("History of the Greek Revolution" by Alexandros Sutsos)
http://books.google.mk/books...

Ex-FINANCE MINISTER Evangelos Venizelos (Turkish Gypsy): The journalist Mark Dragoumis questioned the origin of Venizelos' name, suggesting that E. Venizelos, or one of his ancestors, has changed his name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Venize...

And here it is - Venizelos 's real family name is TURKIOZOGLOU:
"According to information since given to this columnist by an Asian Minor scholar specialising in the names of refugee families, the name change dates from shortly after 1922 when an ancestor of the PASOK politician - probably his grandfather - came to Greece from Asia Minor bearing the name of Turkiozoglou (ie "son of a song-writer" as Turkin means song in Turkish) "
http://www.athensnews.gr/old_issue/13255/1678...

Most probably a gypsy from Turkey, as the gypsies are widely known as musicians and blacksmiths.

SOLUNS MAYOR: Yannis Boutaris (Vlach)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiannis_Boutaris

ACTUAL PRIME MINISTER A.Samaras (Vlach): Families of Vlachs from Samarina: Avelas, Agorogiannis, Vrazitikos, Gerasis, Gabetas, Gravanis, Ligouras, Lioupas, SAMARAS, Sarmaniotis, Stimoniaris, Tsaknakis.
http://hellas.teipir.gr/Thesis/Larisa/makrixo...

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#18 Dec 27, 2012
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>NO MORE "Papapapass" and "Poopis Kakass" - ONLY SHAKALAKA BOO-YAKA!!!
Bre hayanako, do you cry when reading samovila, like Pulevski ??

MALAKA !!

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

Solun, Occupied Macedonia [+]

#19 Dec 27, 2012

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#20 Dec 27, 2012
Bre hayanako, do you cry when reading samovila, like Pulevski ??

MALAKA !!

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