Philip II (359-336 BC) and ancient Greek coins

There are 37 comments on the history-of-macedonia.com story from Jun 26, 2012, titled Philip II (359-336 BC) and ancient Greek coins. In it, history-of-macedonia.com reports that:

Ancient Macedonia - Ilya Zlobin, expert in coins and artifacts of the ancient Greek, Roman and Byzantine times reads the biography of the ancient Greek king of Macedonia Philip II of Macedonia. He was the father of Alexander the Great and won the Olympic games in ancient times and he made coins commemorating his victory. You can own these authentic ancient Greek coins today, which feature a head of Apollo and a nude youth riding a horse.

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MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#1 Jun 26, 2012
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#2 Jun 26, 2012
http://youtu.be/DwY5cLtyyYw
Ancient Macedonian coins!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#3 Jun 26, 2012
http://youtu.be/9l-hrwSYn7k
Ancient Macedonian coins!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#4 Jun 26, 2012
http://youtu.be/u5KqWqUbxBg
Ancient Macedonian language!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#5 Jun 27, 2012
http://youtu.be/55tGPVKi3rw
Macedonians is Greek!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#6 Jun 27, 2012
http://youtu.be/WkRgOhdfSak
Ancient Macedonian language!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#7 Jun 27, 2012
http://youtu.be/Bne8vSlqJj4
Ancient Macedonian language,is the Greek language!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#8 Jun 28, 2012

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9 Jun 28, 2012
"The Usable Past" - 2003
By K.S Brown & Professor Yannis Hamilakis

Page 140:

"...As a result of a number of historical factors, much of the rural population in central Greece was Albanian-speaking by the time of the creation of modern Greek state in the 1830s"

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"ALBANIA - The Rise of a Kingdom"
By J.Swire - 1971

Page 11:

"...In an article in the Greek monthly magazine, Parnassos - February 1916, it is stated that "the majority of our soldiers speak to one another in the Albanian language....a very deplorable habit.....It is expedient that this habit be destroyed by all necessary and vigorous means". Prince Lichonowsky wrote: "the so-called Greek national dess itself is of Albanian orgin".

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VENIZELOS (Famous Greek Statesman - Prime Minister: 1910-1920, 1932)

By Herbert Adams Gibbons, Ph.D
[At The Peace Conferance]

Page 346:

"...Venizelos advanced the famous theory of national consciousness as the test of nationality..."One may be temped", he said, "to raise the objection that a substantial portion of the Greek population uses Albanian as its mother tongue, and is, consequently, in all probability, of Albanian orgin"

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MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#10 Jun 28, 2012
Greek Malaka wrote:
"The Usable Past" - 2003
By K.S Brown & Professor Yannis Hamilakis
Page 140:
"...As a result of a number of historical factors, much of the rural population in central Greece was Albanian-speaking by the time of the creation of modern Greek state in the 1830s"
==========
"ALBANIA - The Rise of a Kingdom"
By J.Swire - 1971
Page 11:
"...In an article in the Greek monthly magazine, Parnassos - February 1916, it is stated that "the majority of our soldiers speak to one another in the Albanian language....a very deplorable habit.....It is expedient that this habit be destroyed by all necessary and vigorous means". Prince Lichonowsky wrote: "the so-called Greek national dess itself is of Albanian orgin".
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VENIZELOS (Famous Greek Statesman - Prime Minister: 1910-1920, 1932)
By Herbert Adams Gibbons, Ph.D
[At The Peace Conferance]
Page 346:
"...Venizelos advanced the famous theory of national consciousness as the test of nationality..."One may be temped", he said, "to raise the objection that a substantial portion of the Greek population uses Albanian as its mother tongue, and is, consequently, in all probability, of Albanian orgin"
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http://youtu.be/55tGPVKi3rw
You are NOT a Macedonian......but this you already know!
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#11 Jun 28, 2012
Greek Malaka wrote:
"The Usable Past" - 2003
By K.S Brown & Professor Yannis Hamilakis
Page 140:
"...As a result of a number of historical factors, much of the rural population in central Greece was Albanian-speaking by the time of the creation of modern Greek state in the 1830s"
==========
"ALBANIA - The Rise of a Kingdom"
By J.Swire - 1971
Page 11:
"...In an article in the Greek monthly magazine, Parnassos - February 1916, it is stated that "the majority of our soldiers speak to one another in the Albanian language....a very deplorable habit.....It is expedient that this habit be destroyed by all necessary and vigorous means". Prince Lichonowsky wrote: "the so-called Greek national dess itself is of Albanian orgin".
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VENIZELOS (Famous Greek Statesman - Prime Minister: 1910-1920, 1932)
By Herbert Adams Gibbons, Ph.D
[At The Peace Conferance]
Page 346:
"...Venizelos advanced the famous theory of national consciousness as the test of nationality..."One may be temped", he said, "to raise the objection that a substantial portion of the Greek population uses Albanian as its mother tongue, and is, consequently, in all probability, of Albanian orgin"
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Ridiculous Timeless!
samostojna MK

Canberra, Australia

#12 Jun 30, 2012
It has bin prooven alredy that ancient Macedonian
coins have Macedonian ancient print. Not Greek.
At time of their making, there was no Greece, Greeks Hellenis or Elas. Stop holding on to Macedonian history, today you have biger problem to solve.
To bad, you can not solve it, because you ignore the truth.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#13 Jun 30, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
It has bin prooven alredy that ancient Macedonian
coins have Macedonian ancient print. Not Greek.
At time of their making, there was no Greece, Greeks Hellenis or Elas. Stop holding on to Macedonian history, today you have biger problem to solve.
To bad, you can not solve it, because you ignore the truth.
http://youtu.be/9l-hrwSYn7k
Ancient Macedonian coins!!!!
p.s Stop drugs,because they make you more idiot!

“MACEDONIA & THE REST OF GREECE”

Since: May 11

Greece

#14 Jun 30, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
It has bin prooven alredy that ancient Macedonian
coins have Macedonian ancient print. Not Greek.
Ti les re Malaka, asxete Slavovulgare?
Macedonians ignored your presence wherever then.
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Athens, Greece

#15 Jun 30, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
It has bin prooven alredy that ancient Macedonian
coins have Macedonian ancient print. Not Greek.
At time of their making, there was no Greece, Greeks Hellenis or Elas. Stop holding on to Macedonian history, today you have biger problem to solve.
To bad, you can not solve it, because you ignore the truth.
http://youtu.be/u5KqWqUbxBg
Stop "think" that the whole world are mega idiot,like you!
Miss Macedonia

Thessaloníki, Greece

#16 Sep 21, 2012
samostojna MK wrote:
It has bin prooven alredy that ancient Macedonian
coins have Macedonian ancient print. Not Greek.
At time of their making, there was no Greece, Greeks Hellenis or Elas. Stop holding on to Macedonian history, today you have biger problem to solve.
To bad, you can not solve it, because you ignore the truth.
You only "prove" that the macedonian coins include a so called macedonian language!
We Macedonians say that we speak greek like the other Greeks!You fake Macedonian/Fyromian...stop talking about Macedonians and the rest of Greeks!
You are not Macedonians,you are Bulgarians and you ignore everything about us since you removed everything greek from your "education"!
Stop talking in the name of Macedonians,you have nothing to do with us!
You are a fyromian propagandist who are trying to steal and distort our history!
Go away rejected slavic pig!
Miss Macedonia

Kilkís, Greece

#17 Sep 27, 2012
Arrianos wrote:
<quoted text>
Ti les re Malaka, asxete Slavovulgare?
Macedonians ignored your presence wherever then.
Philip's son found their ancestors on the trees of Mongolia and he showed them his big "sarisa" in their assez;)

“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#19 Sep 27, 2012
All Greeks are imposters in denial of their real heritage!!

Well let’s see who is Greek?

Let’s see what make you a Greek as stated by a priest.

GREEK IDENTITY - WHAT IS GREEK


To be Greek threes only one requirement baptism by a Greek priest in a Greek church.

Meaning of the word "GREEK" - Greek constitution 1827
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

THE ALBANIAN CULTURE OF MODERN GREECE! IS THERE ANYTHING HELLENIC ABOUT THE MODERN GREEKS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Greece First President Albanian

First Hellenic Republic (1828-1833)

First Hellenic Republic Governorate

***Excluding Greece’s First President George Konduriottes (1828-1833)***

not noted in any moden text because of Greek political sensitivity about his Albainian

identity as noted by George Finlay, in his book History of the Greek Revolution

Published by W. Blackwood and sons in 1861.

Georgios Kountouriotis (1782 - 1858) was a Greek politician who served as prime minister from March to October 1848. He was born in 1782 on the Saronic island of Hydra to an*** Arvanite*** family.[1] He was the brother of Lazaros Kountouriotis, who fought in the Greek War of Independence and grandfather of Pavlos Kountouriotis who fought in the First Balkan War and later served as first President of the Greek Republic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgios_Kountou...
Arvanites are a population group in Greece who traditionally speak Arvanitika, a dialect of the Albanian language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvanites

***According to Ljalja´s findings, 27 out of the 57 former Greek Prime Ministers are of Albanian descent.***
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/vie...

The 1923 population exchange between Greece and Turkey

The Treaty of Lausanne affected the populations as follows: almost all Greeks of Asia Minor including a small Turkish speaking Greek Orthodox population from middle Anatolia (Karamanlides), the Ionia region (e.g. Smyrna, Aivali), the Pontus region (e.g. Trapezunda, Sampsunta), Prusa (Bursa), the Bithynia region (e.g., Nicomedia (&#304;zmit), Chalcedon (Kad&#305;köy), East Thrace, and other regions were either expelled or formally denaturalized from Turkish territory, numbering up to 1.5 million people (for many authors more than 3 million). About 500,000 people were expelled from Crete, predominantly Turks, but including other Muslims, those speaking a Greek dialect intermingled with some Turkish loanwords, Muslim Roma, Pomaks, Cham Albanians, and Megleno-Romanians.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Popu...

***Why do you hate the Turks so much when half off the Greek populating was born in Turkey?***the only thing they need to become Greek was to be christened?

11 November, 2010 3:36PM AEST
Dr Maria Hill
By Richard Fidler

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/11/1...

“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#20 Sep 27, 2012
Your heroes sure loved you by treating to destroy your city states just like Thebes!!
Alexander demolished Thebes!!!
Quote;
The neighboring states and the cities of Greece rebelled against Macedonian rule now that they saw a boy on the throne. Alexander's council advised him to give up trying to subjugate the Greeks and to concentrate his resources on keeping the barbarian nations of the north under control. Treat the Greeks kindly, they said, and that will dissipate the first impulses of rebellion.

But Alexander rejected this advice. If any sign of weakness were perceived at the beginning of his government, everyone would be encouraged to attack, so only in bravery was there safety. First Alexander marched to the Danube and beat down all opposition from the tribes in that area. When everything there was peaceful again, he turned south and marched to Greece.

There had been a revolution in Thebes. The demagogues there were urging all of the other Greeks to join Thebes and free themselves from Macedonian domination. Athens also was being agitated by talk of war and rebellion, particularly from the demagogue Demosthenes. 6

After a march of two weeks, Alexander appeared at the walls of Thebes and demanded that the city send him the two leaders of the rebellion. To show how willing he was to forgive what was in the past, Alexander offered a full pardon for all those that would take it. The Thebans gave him an insulting reply, so Alexander killed six thousand of them, demolished their city, and sold all of the surviving inhabitants as slaves.

*** This severe example would make the other Greeks think twice about the consequences of disobedience. And soon the Athenians repented and reaffirmed their allegiance to Macedonia. Whether Alexander's new gentleness toward the Athenians was the result of remorse over the horrible cruelty done to Thebes,***

or merely that his passion for blood was satisfied, is not certain. However, from then on Alexander always showed kindness to any Theban survivor he could find.

Soon afterwards, representatives of the Greeks assembled at Corinth and named Alexander to lead them in a war against Persia. 7 While Alexander was at Corinth, politicians and philosophers came to congratulate him, but he noticed that the famous philosopher Diogenes, who lived there in Corinth, did not come.

http://www.e-classics.com/ALEXANDER.ht

“"MAKEDONKA"”

Since: Jul 08

Bitola

#21 Sep 27, 2012
Alexander may have killed at least 50,000 Greeks who where fighting on the Persian side and you clam his Greek your stupidity is beyond belief.

[1] Arrian's The Campaigns of Alexander "The cavalry action which ensued was desperate enough, and the Persians broke only when they knew that the Greek mercenaries were being cut and destroyed by the Macedonian infantry." [p.119-20]
[ancient Greeks fighting against ancient Macedonians and the modern Greeks called Alexander's conquest Greek? Something doesn't add up here.]
[2] Arrian "The Campaigns of Alexander" "When received the report that Alexander was moving forward to the attack, he sent some 30,000 mounted troops and 20,000 light infantry across the river Pinarus, to give himself a chance of getting the main body of his army into position without molestation. His dispositions were as follows: in the van of his heavy infantry were his 30,000 Greek mercenaries, facing the Macedonian infantry, with some 60,000 Persian heavy infantry- known as Kardakes." [p.114]
[Paradoxical juncture: Alexander's conquest can not be called Greek conquest while 30,000 Greeks are actually fighting against Alexander and his Macedonians, while far less,(7,000) were part of the Macedonian army.]
[3] Quintus Rufus "The History of Alexander" Patron, the Greek commander, speaks with Darius:
"Your Majesty", said Patron, "we few are all that remain of 50,000 Greeks. We were all with you in your more fortunate days, and in your present situation we remain as we were when you were prospering, ready to make for and to accept as our country and our home any lands you choose. We and you have been drawn together both by your prosperity and your adversity. By this inviolable loyalty of ours I beg and beseech you: pitch your tent in our area of the camp and let us be your bodyguards. We have left Greece behind; for us there is no Bactria; our hopes rest entirely in you - I wish that were true of the others also! Further talk serves no purpose. As a foreigner born of another race I should not be asking for the responsibility of guarding your person if I thought anyone else could do it." [p.112-13]
[50,000 Greeks serving with Darius’ army and fighting Alexander's Macedonians. A legitimate and a very obvious question: If Alexander’s army was in fact a ‘Greek army’, as the modern Greeks claim, then how is it possible for a ‘Greek king’- Alexander, to hire mercenaries - Greeks, from his 'own' country? 50,000 strong Greeks were with Darius fighting the Macedonians, while Alexander took only 7,000 Greeks next to his Macedonians which served him as "hostages" and "were potential trouble makers" (Green), which he got rid of only when he learned that the rebellion in Greece against the Macedonian occupation forces there was suppressed (Green, Badian, Borza). The fact that 50,000 Greeks were fighting Alexander’s Macedonians shows clearly that their loyalty and their numerical superiority lies with Darius and his Persians, not with Alexander and his Macedonians. As Peter Green puts it: "if this was a Greek conquest where were the Greek troops?" Alexander’s conquest can not therefore be at all a Greek conquest, but simply a Macedonian conquest.]
[4] "The turning point in the evolution of Alexander's army appears to have been the year 330. Until then the Macedonian component was progressively reinforced, reaching peaks before Issus and after the arrival of Amyntas' great contingent late in 331. Alexander then thought it safe to divest himself of non Macedonian troops. The forces from the Corinthean League, infantry and cavalry, were demobilized from Ecbetana in the spring of 330;

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