Scopia NOT EVEN part of Ancient Maced...

Scopia NOT EVEN part of Ancient Macedonia, xpt 5% near Monastiri

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Since: Jun 07

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#2 May 5, 2012
FYROM WASNT EVEN A PART OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA !!
THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO USE THE NAME OF MACEDONIA. Not even as a geographical term, as Tito defined it,when he assured the Greeks back then in 1945 , when Greeks objected the renaming of Vardaska to "Macedonia"
ONLY 5% of Fyrom was a part of Ancient Macedonia.
That 5% of fyrom isnt even a 2% of aNCIENT mACEDONIA
The center of Macedonia was & still is in Greece.

Since: Jun 07

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#3 May 5, 2012
FYROM=Created by one man TITO
FYROM=Bulgarian language
FYROM=Bulgarian Heroes
FYROM=Bulgarian customs
FYROM=Bulgarian heritage
FYROM=Bulgarian cuisine
FYROM=Constitution by Tito
FYROM=Abused by Serbia and TITO
FYROM=First President Bulgarian
FYROM=Flag changed three times
FYROM=Only country vetoed for NATO
FYROM=First prime minister Bulgarian
FYROM=Language created by Serbian/Croats
FYROM=Names changed to "ski"ending by TITO
FYROM=The only Turk's friends in Balkans

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#4 May 5, 2012
FOKEN FYROMIANS FOUGHT AGAINST MACEDONIANS
MY GRANDFATHER FOUGHT AGAINST FYROMIANS AND SAVED MACEDONIA FROM BULGARIAN OCCUPATION FROM TODAYS FYROMSKSIS
The Macedonian Struggle one of the most important struggles of Modern Greece, is, it has turned out, not over, & will never b over "so long as generations of barbarians sweep down to choke the Greek seed", as Ion Dragoumis said. The present threat comes from Skopje which has never fallen within the geophysical & historical boundaries of Macedonia

Since: Jun 07

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#5 May 6, 2012
Why do Slavobulgars ignore that From the dawn of history even through the ottoman empire in Greek [kryfo sholio] "hidden schools" always Greeks studied about their macedonian culture-THEY NEVER STOPPED CALLING THIS STATE OF GREECE, MACEDONIA-IT WAS ALWAYS A PART OF GREECE .THEY NEVER STOPPED BEING PROUD OF THEIR PAST-but never in the past SOMEONE DARED TO QUESTION THE GREEKNESS OF MACEDONIA-So how do u think anyone would believe GYPSOSLAVOSCOPIANS sudden desire to be called Macedonians?

Since: Jun 07

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#11 May 8, 2012
scopis cry cry cry
Tina

Ainslie, Australia

#12 May 8, 2012
How can I coment when you are not serious.
The constant anoying repetition of who we are, is tiresom. Anoying. Boring.
You say, Skopje is not ancient and does not belong to ancient Macedonia, you mean as geogradical land?
Funny to mention that.
I think you should google Skopje in ancient time and see how old it is.
But if you know about Macedonians way before they become the Kingdom of Makedon, Well, its very interesting historic development.

Since: Jun 07

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#13 May 8, 2012
scopia is ur whole country
it was never part of original Macedonian state of greece, except a small part of Monastiri or bitola like u renamed all Greek toponyms to stupid slavobulgarian or something
it was called Paeonia , no one said that it was not old
it became part of the Greek empire of Macedonia , just like even Persia was, So its like Persia wants to be called Macedonia today !!!
ALL WHAT I SAY IS PROVEN BY HISTORICAL SOURCES, EVEN HAMMOND TODAY CONFIRMS THIS----do ur research
pellazg Illirian forever

United States

#14 May 8, 2012
All the names of the places mentioned above are nothing but Pellazg Illyrian names and territories

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#15 May 8, 2012
pellazg Illirian forever wrote:
All the names of the places mentioned above are nothing but Pellazg Illyrian names and territories
exactly Greek pelasgian Illyrian ,same thing

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#16 May 8, 2012
[Apollodoros M. 11.2,3]:
PELASGIANS, was the unitary name which represented the Greek nation as a whole, before the cataclysm of Deukalion & the following division into the known Greek tribes of Danaans, Achaeans, Dorians, Aeolians, Ionians, etc
Pelasgos was the son of Zeus & Niobis, native grandfather of Thessalos, progenitor of the Pelasgians.

"...Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous"
(Plutarchos Peri fyges 604D-E,13)

PLUTARCHOS CALLS PELASGIANS A GREEK NATION
AND THAT GREEKS DID NOT COME FROM ELSEWHERE BUT WERE AUTOCTHONOUS

"...Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous"
(Plutarchos Peri fyges 604D-E,13)

STRABO SAYS THAT PELASGIANS WERE GREEK
AS THE DANAANS & ARGEIANS

"I think it was the glory of the city which prepared them to be called after her, the Pelasgians, the Danaans & the Argeians and the other Greeks."
(Strabo G H VI 8)

WHY DID ALL LATIN POETS CALLED THE GREEKS, PELASGI??

Virgilius as all Latin poets was calling the Greeks "PELASGI"
eg:"Reges Pelasgi" (Aeneas A624)

The Greek Pelasgians were the first to colonize Italy "Pelasgi qui primi coluisse Italiam" (AGell.Atticae A10)

Also Latin poet Ovidius refering 2 the events of the Trojan War identifies the Pelasgians with the Greeks
(Metamorphoses XII XIII)

Hectacos: Pelasgos from which Pelasgians derived was GREEK KING FROM THESSALY
Acousilaos: Pelasgos was Greek his father was Lycaon, both of Peloponnesian genealogy
In Prometheus: Pelasgian land means GREEK ARGOS
Ephoros: Pelasgian simply means prehistoric GREEK
Sophoclis: Pelasgian is synonymous to Greek
Thucydidis adopts the same general Pelasgian theory of early Greece
Dionysios Alikarnasseus: The Greek Pelasgians came to Rome
Herodotos' book "PELASGIANS THE EARLY GREEKS"
pellazg Illirian forever

United States

#17 May 8, 2012
RealMacedonianGR wrote:
<quoted text>
exactly Greek pelasgian Illyrian ,same thing
. Exactly pellasgian Illyrian Albanian

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#18 May 8, 2012
pellazg Illirian forever wrote:
<quoted text>. Exactly pellasgian Illyrian Albanian
ILLYRIANS were never Albanian
Albanians came from caucasus
WE HAVE REFERENCES FROM ANCIENT HISTORIANS THAT ILLYRIANS DERIVED FROM PELASGIANS, WHICH WERE DEFENETLY GREEKS
Illyrios was a Greek from Greek city Thebes son of Kadmos & Harmonia. All we know about Illyrians comes from Greeks, and describes them as Greeks. They spoke unsophisticated proto-pelasgian Greek..

"for the Pelasgians, too, were a Greek nation originally from the Peloponesus"
(Dionysios Alikarnasseus-Roman Antiquities)
pellazg Illirian forever

United States

#19 May 9, 2012
I did not say Illyrian are Albanian , but Albanians ARE Illyrians , and if you are jelous and trying to change the reality and the history , than you got a problem which is your OWN problem ,,, feel sorry for you , wish you get better , and find some time to check with a docter and get some treatment before you get worse !!!!

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#20 May 9, 2012
pellazg Illirian forever wrote:
I did not say Illyrian are Albanian , but Albanians ARE Illyrians , and if you are jelous and trying to change the reality and the history , than you got a problem which is your OWN problem ,,, feel sorry for you , wish you get better , and find some time to check with a docter and get some treatment before you get worse !!!!
HONEST ALBOS ADMIT THEY R NOT ILLYRIANS
Ardian Vebiu
famous Albanian historian writes:

My personal opinion is that the issue of Albanians descending or not from Illyrians doesn't deserve the interest it has traditionally aroused. There is absolutely NO Illyrian cultural legacy among Albanians today. In a certain sense, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism.

Albanian scholar Dr. Adrian Qosi
SAYS THAT, ILLYRIAN & EPIROTE DESCENT OF MODERN ALBANIANS IS A MYTH !! I courageously accept the scientific truth that Albanians are not whatsoever connected to ILLYRIAN OR EPIROTE peoples.

HONEST ALBOS SPEAK THE TRUTH, ALBOS RNT ILLYRIANS
Albanian Academic Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich:

"the Albanian professors consciously hide the truth about the origins of the Albanians and, instead truth, to their pupils and students they serve up the lies about their autochthony and illyrian origin.This is not done accidentally, but with the aim to incite the Albanians against the neighbouring nations,

ALBOS, ITS TIME TO WAKE UP, or u prefer to dream u r GREEK?
TO ALBOS THAT DREAM THEY R ILLYRIANS Wilkes writes:

Human Genome Projects Y-chromosome study of European populations confirmed:
ALBOS DO NOT SHARE ANY ILLYRIAN OR INDO-EUROPEAN LINEAGE
ILLYRIANS WERNT&#65279; SHORT & DARK AS MODERN ALBOS
Albos migration is well documented 'Anonymi Descriptio Europae Orientalis' 1308
DNA PROVES U RNT ILLYRIAN
IAR: Modern Albos have common genetic markers with the remains found at the Kampacha period graves in Caucasus"
Ur language is similar to Udi not Greekillyrian

Since: Jun 07

REAL Macedonia-Greece

#21 May 9, 2012
About the Albanians, Wilkes writes "NOT MUCH RELIANCE SHOULD PERHAPS BE PLACED ON ATTEMPTS TO IDENTIFY AN ILLYRIAN ANTHROPOLOGICAL TYPE AS SHORT AND DARK SKINNED SIMMILAR TO MODERN ALBANIANS."

Wilkes was proven CORRECT by science when the Human Genome Project's Y-chromosome study of European populations, confirmed that the vast majority of contemporary Albanians do not share an Illyrian or any Indo-European lineage.

WHILE ALBANIANS WERE TRAVELLING FROM CAUCASUS, IT TOOK THEM SOME CENTURIES TO REACH THE BALKANS & ITALY while..
Albanians do not have a country, cities, camps, fortifications and farms, but live rather in tents and are constantly on the move from one place to another with the help of their troops and relatives. They do have one city called Duracium (Durrës) which belongs to the Latins and from which they get textiles and other necessities.

Source:'Anonymi Descriptio Europae Orientalis' 1308

Allabanians ARE THE MOST RECENT HABITATS OF THE BALKAN PENNISULA
HAVING A MIXED LANGUAGE CONTAINING WORDS FROM THE LANGUAGES OF PEOPLE THEY CONTACTED AS THEY MARCHED FROM CAUCASUS TO THE BALKANS .
who says so ??? KAPLAN RESULI ALBANOLOGIST

Albanians come from Caucasus
When Albania of Caucasus was destroyed by Romans, they seeked for new lands in the Balkans. Moving slowly, living in temporary camps, after some centuries they reached the Balkans
Thats why their language has close relations to the one spoke by Udis in Caucasus. It is proven by linguistic scientists and its certified by their findings. We also have the Genetic study proving the common DNA structure to the Caucasians from Kampacha.

"A 2002 genetic study shows that Albanians have ancestors who originated in an area north of Caucasus at the end of the first century AD. According to the study, modern Albanians have common genetic markers with the remains found at the Kampacha period graves in Caucasus"
Source:
INTERNATIONAL ANTHROPOLOGY RESEARCH
pellazg Illirian forever

Auburndale, MA

#22 May 9, 2012
You're just an idiot .refering to your comment, that's all I can say goodbye !!!

Since: Jun 07

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#23 May 28, 2012
U STUPID CUuNTS , FYROM AREA WSNT even A PART OF ORIGINAL MACEDONIAN STATE OF GREECE- FYROM AREA WAS ANCIENT PAEONIA
FILIPPOS CONQUERED FUKEN PAEONIANS
comprente assholes ? U dont even have a Geographical reason to claim the name of Macedonia
IF U BELIEVE U SLAVIC INVADERS MINGLED WITH NATIVES, ur supposed ancestors r the Paeonians-

FILIPPOS CONQUERED PAEONIANS & MADE THEM SLAVES SERVING THE GREEKS, they fought in Macedonian army as Paeonians, not as Greek Macedonians

FROM Historian HAMMOND'S interview (PHILIP conquered Fyrom area)

THE AREA OF FYROM WASNT A PART OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA
BUT KNOWN AS PAEONIA & ITS HABITATS AS PAEONIANS.
It should be emphasized that Macedonia occupied only the area of
Pieria, as is characteristically mentioned by Hesiod and Thucydides. It
had to wait until Philip II ascended to the throne and expanded his
kingdom by occupying, among others, the Thracians and the PAEONIANS.
Philip CONQUERED PAEONIA
Paeonians were allowed to keep their customs, which was a sign of liberal policy of Philip after each conquest From Homer we learn that the Paeonians had their own language & that they fought on the side of the Trojans
THEY LIVED IN THE AREA of SKOPJE, & this is the
reason I suggested to Patrick L Fermor to suggest in his article in the Independent the name of “PAEONIA”

Since: Jun 07

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#24 Jun 2, 2012

U STUPID CUuNTS , FYROM AREA WSNT even A PART OF ORIGINAL MACEDONIAN STATE OF GREECE- FYROM AREA WAS ANCIENT PAEONIA
FILIPPOS CONQUERED FUKEN PAEONIANS
comprente assholes ? U dont even have a Geographical reason to claim the name of Macedonia
IF U BELIEVE U SLAVIC INVADERS MINGLED WITH NATIVES, ur supposed ancestors r the Paeonians-

FILIPPOS CONQUERED PAEONIANS & MADE THEM SLAVES SERVING THE GREEKS, they fought in Macedonian army as Paeonians, not as Greek Macedonians

FROM Historian HAMMOND'S interview (PHILIP conquered Fyrom area)

THE AREA OF FYROM WASNT A PART OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA
BUT KNOWN AS PAEONIA & ITS HABITATS AS PAEONIANS.
It should be emphasized that Macedonia occupied only the area of
Pieria, as is characteristically mentioned by Hesiod and Thucydides. It
had to wait until Philip II ascended to the throne and expanded his
kingdom by occupying, among others, the Thracians and the PAEONIANS.
Philip CONQUERED PAEONIA
Paeonians were allowed to keep their customs, which was a sign of liberal policy of Philip after each conquest From Homer we learn that the Paeonians had their own language & that they fought on the side of the Trojans
THEY LIVED IN THE AREA of SKOPJE, & this is the
reason I suggested to Patrick L Fermor to suggest in his article in the Independent the name of “PAEONIA”
AS THE MOST SUITABLE FOR SKOPJE
HELLASS-ETHIOPAN -APES

Australia

#25 Jun 2, 2012
==
====HELL ASS ]THE MORONS ARE PURE AFRICAN TRIBE==
====BLOOD ;;ETHIOPIAN[GAY REEKS]]]SO CRAZY OVER MACEDONIAN KINGDAM;;;;OBSSES MONKEYS;;;GO BACK IN ZOOO ;;DAM APES;;;;;;;;;;;;YOU CRAZY BABOOONS ;;DREAM ON HOW TO BE COME EUROPEANS;;; AFRICAN CAN NEVER BE MACEDONIANS;;EUROPEANS;;;;;;;;
[[[LONG LIVE FREE''MACEDONIA[REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA=
NO NATO FOR YOU FYROM

Greece

#26 Jun 2, 2012
HELLASS-ETHIOPAN-APES wrote:
==
====HELL ASS ]THE MORONS ARE PURE AFRICAN TRIBE==
====BLOOD ;;ETHIOPIAN[GAY REEKS]]]SO CRAZY OVER MACEDONIAN KINGDAM;;;;OBSSES MONKEYS;;;GO BACK IN ZOOO ;;DAM APES;;;;;;;;;;;;YOU CRAZY BABOOONS ;;DREAM ON HOW TO BE COME EUROPEANS;;; AFRICAN CAN NEVER BE MACEDONIANS;;EUROPEANS;;;;;;;;
[[[LONG LIVE FREE''MACEDONIA[REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA=
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