O'Reilly: Benghazi is Obama's Watergate! Yeah, That's the Ticket

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Look, Bill: All that happened after the horrendous incident in Libya was that Susan Rice went on air and repeated to the media what information was given to her by the CIA.

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2016, not 2017 thank God!<quoted text>
No. Obama will be president until the 3rd week of january 2017. Some people are just pennywise and dollardumb!!!!!LOL
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2016, not 2017 thank God!<quoted text>
Actually the better date is 2014 and it can't come soon enough.
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<quoted text>No. Obama will be president until the 3rd week of january 2017. Some people are just pennywise and dollardumb!!!!!LOL
Arguing idiocy again? Obamaton can't get enough of Obama whereas the rest of us are long sick of him and his policies to destroy America.

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Arguing idiocy again? Obamaton can't get enough of Obama whereas the rest of us are long sick of him and his policies to destroy America.
I don't argue with idiots. I was merely stating a fact and then offered an opinion.
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<quoted text>I don't argue with idiots. I was merely stating a fact and then offered an opinion.
Most of your fellow posters seem to argue liberal idiocy and you like their work.

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<quoted text> Most of your fellow posters seem to argue liberal idiocy and you like their work.
When it comes to foreign policy, I side with the Libertarians. I feel that it is pointless to have an embassy loaded with staff in any country that we do not consider an ally. The Benghazi incident, while unfortunate, is a good example why. Blaming the president will only result in increased staffing and security everywhere which will of course raise cost's.
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<quoted text>When it comes to foreign policy, I side with the Libertarians. I feel that it is pointless to have an embassy loaded with staff in any country that we do not consider an ally. The Benghazi incident, while unfortunate, is a good example why. Blaming the president will only result in increased staffing and security everywhere which will of course raise cost's.
An ambassador and his staff is not too many, but they should have least a security patrol which was requested for months and not provided. Don't put your people in danger and not cover them. That is malfeasance, IMHO.

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<quoted text> An ambassador and his staff is not too many, but they should have least a security patrol which was requested for months and not provided. Don't put your people in danger and not cover them. That is malfeasance, IMHO.
the security requests were for Tripoli, not Benghazi. get your facts straight.

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Canepole wrote:
<quoted text>When it comes to foreign policy, I side with the Libertarians. I feel that it is pointless to have an embassy loaded with staff in any country that we do not consider an ally. The Benghazi incident, while unfortunate, is a good example why. Blaming the president will only result in increased staffing and security everywhere which will of course raise cost's.
Well, the Libertarians live in this fantasy world where our strong diplomacy will bend other nations to our will.

the rest of us would like to live in the real world, and have accurate info on our allies and enemies alike and back up our diplomacy with the force needed in todays world.

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<quoted text> An ambassador and his staff is not too many, but they should have least a security patrol which was requested for months and not provided. Don't put your people in danger and not cover them. That is malfeasance, IMHO.
I can appreciate your position. I'm sure the Obama administration will bolster security worldwide. However, nothing will bring the four victims back. I have no problem with an internal investigation of the incident but the last thing we need is another republican witch hunt like the failed attempt to impeach Bill Clinton. There are many problems facing this country and our outdated/expensive/intrusive foreign policy is one of the biggest.
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<quoted text>the security requests were for Tripoli, not Benghazi. get your facts straight.
I got my facts straight as they were from Benghazi as Ambassador Steven made the request. Don't you ever get your source correct from non-socialist nor far left sources.

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Documents Back Up Claims of Requests for Greater Security in Benghazi

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Republicans on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform have released new documents backing up claims by security personnel previously station in Libya that there was a shortage of security personnel in Benghazi.

The documents contain previously unreleased cables from Ambassador Stevens and his staff reflecting concerns about safety in the country.

The U.S. State Department did not have an immediate comment.

One signed by Stevens and titled “LIBYA’S FRAGILE SECURITY DETERIORIATES AS TRIBAL RIVALRIES, POWER PLAYS AND EXTREMISM INTENSIFY,” dated June 25, 2012, assess the increase in violence.”From April to June, Libya also witnesses an increase in attacks targeting international organizations and foreign interests,” Stevens wrote, describing attacks on a United Nations official in Benghazi, International Committee for the Red Cross buildings in Benghazi and Misrata, and IED at the mission in Benghazi, and RPG fired at the British Ambassador’s convoy, and an attack on the consulate of Tunisia.

A Libyan government national security official told Stevens “that the attacks were the work of extremists who are opposed to western influence in Libya. A number of local contacts agreed, noting that Islamic extremism appears to be on the rise in eastern Libya and that the Al-Qaeda flag has been spotted several times flying over government buildings and training facilities in Derna,” a village to the east in Benghazi. Other contacts disagreed with that assessment, however.

Another cable from Stevens, titled “The Guns of August; security in eastern Libya” and dated August 8, 2012, states “Since the eve of the (July) elections, Benghazi has moved from trepidation to euphoria and back as a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape during the Ramadan holiday.” Stevens describes the incidents as “organized, but this is not an organized campaign.” The Supreme Security Council, the interim security force, he says,“has not coalesced into a stabilizing force and provides little deterrence.”

Stevens wrote that the people of Benghazi want a security apparatus but “inherently fear abuse by the same authorities. This debate, playing out daily in Benghazi, has created the security vacuum that a diverse group of independent actors are exploiting for their own purposes.”

A cable signed by Stevens on the day of his murder, September 11, described a meeting with the Acting Principal Officer of the Supreme Security Council in Benghazi, commander Fawzi Younis, who “expressed growing frustration with police and security forces (who were too weak to keep the country secure)…”

The documents also included an “ACTION MEMO” for Under Secretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy dated December 27, 2011, and written by US Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Jeffrey Feltman. With the subject line:“Future of Operations in Benghazi, Libya,” the memo states:“With the full complement of five Special Agents, our permanent presence would include eight U.S. direct hire employees.”

MORE Proof that Benghazi is a cover up with inadequate security for the US ambassador.
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<quoted text>I can appreciate your position. I'm sure the Obama administration will bolster security worldwide. However, nothing will bring the four victims back. I have no problem with an internal investigation of the incident but the last thing we need is another republican witch hunt like the failed attempt to impeach Bill Clinton. There are many problems facing this country and our outdated/expensive/intrusive foreign policy is one of the biggest.
As shown above there 4-5 memos sent to increase security and they left the ambassador and his people out to dry. Like I said I believe that is malfeasance for the state department not to take care of them in a dangerous part of the world. Like I said that Obama and his administration did not care about them. SHowing me that he cares little about Americans.

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As shown above there 4-5 memos sent to increase security and they left the ambassador and his people out to dry. Like I said I believe that is malfeasance for the state department not to take care of them in a dangerous part of the world. Like I said that Obama and his administration did not care about them. SHowing me that he cares little about Americans.
We have over 60,000 personnel at 275 embassies around the world. This is currently costing about $14B annually. With all of the communication options available today, there is absolutely no need for them to be stationed in places like Libya. BRING THEM HOME! And your malfeasance argument is weak. It only gives blowhards like Limbaugh and Rove something to complain about leading to false hopes for Obama haters like you. Obama WILL be the president until 2017 so deal with it.

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<quoted text>Well, the Libertarians live in this fantasy world where our strong diplomacy will bend other nations to our will.
the rest of us would like to live in the real world, and have accurate info on our allies and enemies alike and back up our diplomacy with the force needed in todays world.
Seems to me that your the one living in fantasyland. In your delusional mind paranoia runs rampant. I do live in the real world. The one where I get up and go to work everyday, dealing with hundreds of customers, tens of thousands over the years and not once have I felt threatened by their color, religion or culture. That IS the real world in America. You should move to the middle east or Sudan where your delusional fears can become reality.
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<quoted text>We have over 60,000 personnel at 275 embassies around the world. This is currently costing about $14B annually. With all of the communication options available today, there is absolutely no need for them to be stationed in places like Libya. BRING THEM HOME! And your malfeasance argument is weak. It only gives blowhards like Limbaugh and Rove something to complain about leading to false hopes for Obama haters like you. Obama WILL be the president until 2017 so deal with it.
Shoot Obama had them in Libya and he didn't take care of them. Like I said I believe that is malfeasance for the state department not to take care of them in a dangerous part of the world as other parts of the world like Germany or France are not the same level of danger and terror. So, to use the argument that there are other embassies in the world and we did not know which ones to protect is insane. I mean besides a newly formed government there was the memos to say there was violence. BTW, you need to complain to the Obama administration as they were the ones that placed them in danger in Libya, not me. Obama and his administration did not care about them and that shows me that he cares little about Americans. I (as well as many other Americans) will point all Obama's problems and anti-American attitudes until he is out of office and like you said "so deal with it".
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<quoted text>Seems to me that your the one living in fantasyland. In your delusional mind paranoia runs rampant. I do live in the real world. The one where I get up and go to work everyday, dealing with hundreds of customers, tens of thousands over the years and not once have I felt threatened by their color, religion or culture. That IS the real world in America. You should move to the middle east or Sudan where your delusional fears can become reality.
IMHO, woodtick57 and others lost it a long time ago. You provide them proof with links and other means and they still deny it.

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Tell me and use facts and truth not opinion. What has Obama done wrong on Benghazi.

USE FACTS AND PROVEN TRUTH.....
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Tell me and use facts and truth not opinion. What has Obama done wrong on Benghazi.
USE FACTS AND PROVEN TRUTH.....
I do use facts with links and you don't. You live in La La land where up is down and down is up. Obamatons never post the truth. BTW, I'll stop posting to you as you never make sense.

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I do use facts with links and you don't. You live in La La land where up is down and down is up. Obamatons never post the truth. BTW, I'll stop posting to you as you never make sense.
Please then give those links to facts. If there was some real facts Obama would already be infront of congress. You only have opinion. Not fact. What do you think Obama did wrong on Benghazi? Oha nd what proof you got to that end.

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I do use facts with links and you don't. You live in La La land where up is down and down is up. Obamatons never post the truth. BTW, I'll stop posting to you as you never make sense.
Here are some facts for you:

FACT: While bush was in office 11 US embassies were attacked
FACT: 54 Americans were murdered in these attacks.
FACT: GOP outrage for these attacks was NON EXISTENT

Tell me again how this isn't sore loser politics.

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