Is dual citizenship the way forward

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Letlama

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May 13, 2007
 
Some ppl have assumed a firm stance to source foreign ID cards thereby warranting them to be citizens of other countries whilst on the other hand they still have profound sentiments with their country of birth, Lesotho, for they still hold valid Lesotho passports, and of-course we all know this is not legitimate. What does this say to us, should we legislate for dual citizenship? this is the situation on the ground we cannot ignore it, its a reality that cuts across the board from high ranking officials to ordinary ppl on the street. Lets debate.
Mamokholi Tsoane

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May 14, 2007
 

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Well, if Lesotho is not doing anything visible for its people...then I guess its the way forward.
Senqu

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May 14, 2007
 
Why should Lesotho isolate its citizens when other countries allow thier ppl to choose where to reside and welcome them when they return.If we do not allow dual citizenship let it apply to all of us.

Since: May 07

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May 14, 2007
 

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There is nothing wrong with dual citizenship. But if my memory serves me well, I think it's only allowed up to a certain age (18 I think). As for ppl who hold more than one citizenships, as much as it's illegal, ke bohlaleng ba motho. The only problem ke ha motho ena a na le an SA ID feela a sa batle ba bang ha ba na le tsona. Like our ministers. Most of them have SA IDs le bana ba bona. I know e mong a e nketseng Matatiele e mong ena o e nkile JHB. So le lona ha le li batla you can get then just as easily.
Max

Maynooth, Ireland

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#5
May 14, 2007
 
Letlama wrote:
Some ppl have assumed a firm stance to source foreign ID cards thereby warranting them to be citizens of other countries whilst on the other hand they...
The only reason why South Africa may be sensitive about dual citizenship is because they are understandably trying to protect their market. Apartheid, while corrupting the black man's education, gave whites education without working for it. There is a serious gap in terms of skill in that country worsened by emigration.

The ideal world would be free movement of factors between us (or other SADC countries as well) but influx leading to congestion, e ka t'sabeha. The benefits of dual citizenship, I believe could offset the negatives brought by it. So, my answer is, in a situation in which Lesotho is, dual citizenship would solve problems of many.
NTATO LONA

Bellville, South Africa

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May 14, 2007
 
I met one true south african,someone who understands how south africa came to be what it is 2day. U can not underestimate the efforts done by Basotho to build the economy of that country, even at hardtimes when apartheid was at its peak. This gentlemen said he doesnt see why south africans can be allowed to hold lesotho citizenship. most of the communities near mining areas are all basotho, bana ba entsoe ke bontata bona ba basotho, ka ho rialo, le basotho ba lokela ho fumantsoa li id tsa SA. I think its time we allow dual citizenship, its for our benefit
thoboshoana

Maseru, Lesotho

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May 14, 2007
 
xpt for those guys ba batlang ho ja ba le bang it makes perfect sense to have dual citizenship. if u think that it will benefit u then there is no problem with that. I mean the "top" guys in gov hav it, their children hav it and why not the ordianry guy on kingsway if he can afford it and thinks it will benefit him!!
I know that crime aint crime unless u get caught but aish, why shud they make such obvious things that we all know are true. ke bona eka we need to do something drastic.
eish guys lalang kahle.
Letlama

Lithuania

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May 14, 2007
 
Late last year there was talk about a motion to be tabled before Lesotho parliament regarding dual citizenship, any latest developments, and Panther we need to research more about age restrictions. Let me also say that most western countries allow dual citizeship following some evaluations and most African countries excluding RSA are still protective so the point is we are at liberty to seek dual citizenship even outside RSA. Lets find out how far its gone in parliament.

“Mofokeng e motona”

Since: May 07

Leribe Ts'ifa-li-mali

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#9
May 14, 2007
 
Ba heso thusetsang hle! Rona ba sebetsang ka ntle ho naha re bolaoa ke leqeme la litaba. Radio Lesotho ha e na thuso hohang malebane le tlaleha litaba tsa bohlokoa tse etsahalang mono hae; le ho e mamela motho u se u etsoa ke ho hloka mokhoa o mong. web-site ea 'muso eona ha ke tsebe hore na webmaster oa eona o e nchafatsa kamor'a lilemo tse kae.
Ke ntse ke thoholetsa ka matla Public Eye eo e leng eona feela e bonahalang e ikemiselitse ho phatlalatsa litaba ka web-site ea eona. Feela leha ho le joalo motho u ee u lakatse ho li utloa ka mafapaha a fapaneng hore u tle u tsebe ho iketsetsa qeto ea hau e rutehileng. How about the various media houses out there taking up the challenge and joining Public Eye in this sterling task - I believe a dose of some healthy competition can only do all of us enormous good. Ha e lale!

Since: May 07

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#10
May 14, 2007
 
Ao!! Oa Bochabela motsoalle mona re bua la dual citizenship hle. Litaba u tla li thola hona mona ke hona moo li buuoang. Seke ua tsoa lekoteng haholo hle.
letlama

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May 15, 2007
 
Our task therefore is to be vocal about this subject until it is taken to parliament if it not taken already, i align my view with Senqu's opinion that other nations allow multiple citizenship, what about us particularly when it is so clear from what we see that this is what we want.
senqu

Bellville, South Africa

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May 15, 2007
 
Letlama as far as i know Lesotho is the one that does not allow its ppl to have dual citizen. As soon as u become a citizen of another country u have to submit ur Lesotho passport to whoever gives u a new passport. That Lesotho passport will be sent back to Lesotho.This information is clarified before u take an oath.

If something is on table in parliament then it is a good start provided it goes thru
letlama

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May 15, 2007
 
Yes Senqu, what you just said is the basis for this discussion, if the present laws of the country are not in the best interest of citizens then they should be modified such that they favour the same citizens, it looks like the information on the motion in parliament is scanty then i would say the way forward is to investigate on how advanced the matter is in parliament, for that will determine our next step as a nation. If our assumptions are wrong that this matter is before parliamanent, then parliament represents the interests of the general public therefore the onus is on us to take it there through our representatives.

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May 15, 2007
 

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Ts'oarelo Panther ngoan'eso! Molaetsa oa ka o kene tabeng tsa lona ka phoso. Le ha ho le joalo e re le 'na nke ke lahlele oa ka molangoana. Lesotho stands to benefit by allowing its citizens to adopt citizenships of other countries. for instance it is mostly professionals and people who contribute significantly who become eligible for citizenships of other states (no one will volunteer to give 'mokoao' citizenship ea naha ea hae). Therefore, if one were forced to choose between let us say South Africa and Lesotho; obviously far more people would rather surrender their Lesotho passport than lose out on the opportunities offered by the citizenship of SA. Furthermore, for the aforementioned person to choose to retain their Lesotho passport it is because they do not want to cut ties with the Fatherland but rather continue contributing to its development; this is to say make money in SA and support family, invest and promote economic activity back home. I think it is time the people of Lesotho and its leadership took a firm stand and face facts. Dual citizenship will not harm Lesotho in any way; instead our Fatherland stands to benefit from it. Ke eo taba he baheso!
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Dec 12, 2008
 
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Dec 17, 2008
 
'na ke tsoere ea UK passport empa haho kamoo nka busetsang passport eaka e Lesotho. Lesotho High commissioner London, ba ne ba batla ho ntloahla hampe tje. Ntho e ngoe eo ba sa e hlokomeleng, ke hore Lesotho le hloloa ke ho phelisa batho ba lona ka hona Basotho ba phasaletse le linaha ho fumana tse eang ka maleng. Hase phosong ea bana ba Basotho ke phoso ea 'muso e senang thuso ena e re busang. Re patala tax e boima ka mokhoa o makatsang empa qetellong ea letsatsi ha re bone bohlokoa ba hore na re henyetsoe melala ka mabaka a feng haese feela ho rekela mosisili le balateli ba hae likoloi tse turu tseo ba tsamaeang ka tsona babe ba qetelle ba li utsuitse. Khaohanang le Basotho
Red Dragon

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I legally have passports from three different countries. They enable me to get work more easily overseas and send money back home to Africa. If my RSA citizenship had been restored in 1994 I probably would not have had such a financially successful existence.
KB-London

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#19
Sep 19, 2009
 
Ke lumellana le batho ba reng lesotho le fetohe le linako and allow dual nationality for the sake of its people re tle re tsebe ho atleha ele hore bana ba rona ba tle ba be le bokamoso bo chabileng.

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#20
Sep 19, 2009
 
I personally have UK and Lesotho passports. It is ridiculous that the Lesotho government thinks that I should not have a dual nationality for some unexplained reason. At the moment my UK passport is more important as it allows me to work in the UK and Europe without any problems as well as travelling around the world easier than when using the Lesotho passport (this includes travelling in most African countries which I think is a fuss). Before anyone has a go it is really difficult to travel around the world using your Lesotho passport and you get given such a hard time. If Lesotho tried to force me to give either one of my nationality, I would drop the Lesotho one purely for convenience reasons as the UK allows me to be a dual national. Besides I will always be a Mosotho so no official whether be the premier of Lesotho can ever take that away from me. So my conclusion is if having a dual nationality benefits you and your family then the government should allow you to and failing that they should provide you with the means to support yourself and your family in Lesotho which is not yet the case as most of us have to earn our crust abroad or in neighbouring countries.
tsakajoe

Maseru, Lesotho

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#21
Oct 19, 2009
 
Ka nnete le bua nnete baheso, haele mona lesotho teng ke masoabisa lihlong feela haholo ha o sheba maemo a meputso ea bahlanka ba mmuso le ba lifemeng. K e lumellana le hore dual citizenship e ea hlokahala ho basotho

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