The Greatest lie ever told:The Bible - Part 8

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#1 Jun 29, 2011
PRAYER:

If God, who knows everything, even before you say it, he knows the difference between your thoughts and wishes, and when you are actually addressing him. Why do you need to tell him what your needs? Should he know all of these since hes a provider?

Matthew 21:21: it is stated that "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer"

You can gather a million faithful believers together into a giant prayer circle to pray to god to grow a pinkie of Xhosa (wo)man who wishes to have it back and I can tell you now that it wont happen.


Believers will many different ways to explain why such prayers are not answered quoting bible verses.

Matthew 17:20 - Jesus says: Jesus says: For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

The fact is that thousands of things are impossible for you no matter how much you pray, and NO one (including god) will ever move a mountain.

Prayer is nothing but pure superstition and god is imaginary.

“Ha kea tsoalloa ho hlopheha!”

Since: Aug 10

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#2 Jun 29, 2011
Ebe re tla una molemo ofeng ka matlakala a??

Hee Molelengaoene eee! Molelengoane, weeeee!!!

a KO TLE LE PHAFA KOANO HLE. Re na le lehlanya!!!

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Since: Sep 10

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#3 Jun 29, 2011
Coppa-Cabana wrote:
PRAYER:
If God, who knows everything, even before you say it, he knows the difference between your thoughts and wishes, and when you are actually addressing him. Why do you need to tell him what your needs? Should he know all of these since hes a provider?
Matthew 21:21: it is stated that "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer"
You can gather a million faithful believers together into a giant prayer circle to pray to god to grow a pinkie of Xhosa (wo)man who wishes to have it back and I can tell you now that it wont happen.
Believers will many different ways to explain why such prayers are not answered quoting bible verses.
Matthew 17:20 - Jesus says: Jesus says: For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.
The fact is that thousands of things are impossible for you no matter how much you pray, and NO one (including god) will ever move a mountain.
Prayer is nothing but pure superstition and god is imaginary.
o ntse o ja khomo ea fatse moshana? Kea we tseba, e na le ho nahanisa toti feela! kekekekekekekekekeke!
Mashamplane

Maseru, Lesotho

#4 Jan 14, 2013
Coppa,
I have read most of your postings. I like the way you present your staff. I would say to you that if you critise the bible, do it in a possitive way. For example, do not say, the greatest lie told (your heading) because that makes the poeple that you are aurguing with to be defensive and their immediate understanding is that you are attacking their religion and their source of information (bible, koran or whatever it could be).
Make it a sincere conversation and put forward your point of view. The proplem is that even then, you will have people attacking you but I think they will try come up with reasons to counter your argument.
I agree with you 100%. Religion is something imaginary, it does not exist. The whole story in garden of Eden does not make sense at all. I do not even want to go into details. Poeple who came up with the idea of God and Religion, have made a commendable effort to try to have people living together in harmony and helping each other. This is brilliant effort and I commend them.
The only thing I do not like about religion is that they promise people that they will have their reward at some point after they have died, impossble. Just tell people to do good because it is the right thing to do, not because they will get their reward sowhere after they have died, please!
So in short brother, I like they way you present your arguments but just be careful in future not to appear to be attacking people who believe in religion or God because that is how they see life and they subscribe to that believe system. I think they have a right to think the way they do if they are able to put sense in what they believe (but you and me cannot).
Religious people are funny at times, look at the guy you are arguing with (Katakapelekamora), what kind of a name is this, for a Christian, you know, just saying? I am not necessarily attacking you Kataka what-what,I am just comparing your name and your believe, thats all.
Makhooa ntho eo ke ba rateleng eona ke hore they, respect you even if you do not believe in God but in Africa, people think you are mad if you critise the bible or the concept of God.
People, you need to understand that we are diffent and we are meant to think differently. I will not just accept something for the sake of it, even if it does not make sense.

Since: Jan 12

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#5 Jan 14, 2013
Mashamplane wrote:
Coppa,
I have read most of your postings. I like the way you present your staff. I would say to you that if you critise the bible, do it in a possitive way. For example, do not say, the greatest lie told (your heading) because that makes the poeple that you are aurguing with to be defensive and their immediate understanding is that you are attacking their religion and their source of information (bible, koran or whatever it could be).
Make it a sincere conversation and put forward your point of view. The proplem is that even then, you will have people attacking you but I think they will try come up with reasons to counter your argument.
I agree with you 100%. Religion is something imaginary, it does not exist. The whole story in garden of Eden does not make sense at all. I do not even want to go into details. Poeple who came up with the idea of God and Religion, have made a commendable effort to try to have people living together in harmony and helping each other. This is brilliant effort and I commend them.
The only thing I do not like about religion is that they promise people that they will have their reward at some point after they have died, impossble. Just tell people to do good because it is the right thing to do, not because they will get their reward sowhere after they have died, please!
So in short brother, I like they way you present your arguments but just be careful in future not to appear to be attacking people who believe in religion or God because that is how they see life and they subscribe to that believe system. I think they have a right to think the way they do if they are able to put sense in what they believe (but you and me cannot).
Religious people are funny at times, look at the guy you are arguing with (Katakapelekamora), what kind of a name is this, for a Christian, you know, just saying? I am not necessarily attacking you Kataka what-what,I am just comparing your name and your believe, thats all.
Makhooa ntho eo ke ba rateleng eona ke hore they, respect you even if you do not believe in God but in Africa, people think you are mad if you critise the bible or the concept of God.
People, you need to understand that we are diffent and we are meant to think differently. I will not just accept something for the sake of it, even if it does not make sense.
You have said a lot but you and your friend ask questions that should be asked by kids from primary school.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#6 Jan 14, 2013
Coppa-Cabana wrote:
PRAYER:
If God, who knows everything, even before you say it, he knows the difference between your thoughts and wishes, and when you are actually addressing him. Why do you need to tell him what your needs? Should he know all of these since hes a provider?
Matthew 21:21: it is stated that "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer"
You can gather a million faithful believers together into a giant prayer circle to pray to god to grow a pinkie of Xhosa (wo)man who wishes to have it back and I can tell you now that it wont happen.
Believers will many different ways to explain why such prayers are not answered quoting bible verses.
Matthew 17:20 - Jesus says: Jesus says: For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.
The fact is that thousands of things are impossible for you no matter how much you pray, and NO one (including god) will ever move a mountain.
Prayer is nothing but pure superstition and god is imaginary.
Don't claim that the binle is a lie when you do not know anything about what is written inside.

Matthew 17:20 - Jesus says: Jesus says: For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

The above verse talks about your faith and not about the moving mountains. It tell us that we need the smallest faith in order ro grow spiritually. Understand the true concept before you start saying stuff.

Since: Jan 13

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#7 Jan 14, 2013
Coppa-Cabana wrote:
PRAYER:
If God, who knows everything, even before you say it, he knows the difference between your thoughts and wishes, and when you are actually addressing him. Why do you need to tell him what your needs? Should he know all of these since hes a provider?
Matthew 21:21: it is stated that "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer"
You can gather a million faithful believers together into a giant prayer circle to pray to god to grow a pinkie of Xhosa (wo)man who wishes to have it back and I can tell you now that it wont happen.
Believers will many different ways to explain why such prayers are not answered quoting bible verses.
Matthew 17:20 - Jesus says: Jesus says: For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.
The fact is that thousands of things are impossible for you no matter how much you pray, and NO one (including god) will ever move a mountain.
Prayer is nothing but pure superstition and god is imaginary.
I hope for your'e part that you are right.

“ * Ich bin wieder da*”

Since: Jul 12

Makoeteng

#8 Jan 14, 2013
Mashamplane wrote:
Coppa,
I have read most of your postings. I like the way you present your staff. I would say to you that if you critise the bible, do it in a possitive way. For example, do not say, the greatest lie told (your heading) because that makes the poeple that you are aurguing with to be defensive and their immediate understanding is that you are attacking their religion and their source of information (bible, koran or whatever it could be).
Make it a sincere conversation and put forward your point of view. The proplem is that even then, you will have people attacking you but I think they will try come up with reasons to counter your argument.
I agree with you 100%. Religion is something imaginary, it does not exist. The whole story in garden of Eden does not make sense at all. I do not even want to go into details. Poeple who came up with the idea of God and Religion, have made a commendable effort to try to have people living together in harmony and helping each other. This is brilliant effort and I commend them.
The only thing I do not like about religion is that they promise people that they will have their reward at some point after they have died, impossble. Just tell people to do good because it is the right thing to do, not because they will get their reward sowhere after they have died, please!
So in short brother, I like they way you present your arguments but just be careful in future not to appear to be attacking people who believe in religion or God because that is how they see life and they subscribe to that believe system. I think they have a right to think the way they do if they are able to put sense in what they believe (but you and me cannot).
Religious people are funny at times, look at the guy you are arguing with (Katakapelekamora), what kind of a name is this, for a Christian, you know, just saying? I am not necessarily attacking you Kataka what-what,I am just comparing your name and your believe, thats all.
Makhooa ntho eo ke ba rateleng eona ke hore they, respect you even if you do not believe in God but in Africa, people think you are mad if you critise the bible or the concept of God.
People, you need to understand that we are diffent and we are meant to think differently. I will not just accept something for the sake of it, even if it does not make sense.
agree with you 100%. believing in the bible does not necessarily make you a good person; there are other means of ethical ways of living your life. and I stress that word "ethical" here.

Since: Jan 12

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#9 Jan 14, 2013
Tlepere wrote:
<quoted text>
agree with you 100%. believing in the bible does not necessarily make you a good person; there are other means of ethical ways of living your life. and I stress that word "ethical" here.
Critical thinking hmmm?

“ * Ich bin wieder da*”

Since: Jul 12

Makoeteng

#10 Jan 14, 2013
Sash_ wrote:
<quoted text>Critical thinking hmmm?
yes. and quoting those bible passages don't make you a more moral person than me. and being good is very very hard, however quoting those bible passages and interpreting them anyhow you want, is as easy as a,b and c.

Since: Jan 12

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#11 Jan 14, 2013
Tlepere wrote:
<quoted text>
yes. and quoting those bible passages don't make you a more moral person than me. and being good is very very hard, however quoting those bible passages and interpreting them anyhow you want, is as easy as a,b and c.
Lol, kana topic e reng Mr critical thinker? Let me remind you. It says "The Greatest lie ever told:The Bible - Part 8". Do you agree or disagree with the topic?
Mashamplane

Maseru, Lesotho

#12 Jan 14, 2013
Sash_ wrote:
<quoted text>Lol, kana topic e reng Mr critical thinker? Let me remind you. It says "The Greatest lie ever told:The Bible - Part 8". Do you agree or disagree with the topic?
My point to Coppa is that, we cannot say the bible is a lie, because in so doing, you are offending other people.
Just put your point forward, agreeing on disagreeing. I am not necessarily saying bible is a lie myself but there are lot of things that I disagree with in the bible and I would like them to be clarified to me. Who knows, someone might come up with a reasonable explanation!
But one thing I like about Coppa is that he seems to have done his reseach and he does not take anything for granted.
Mashamplane

Maseru, Lesotho

#13 Jan 14, 2013
Tlepere wrote:
<quoted text>
agree with you 100%. believing in the bible does not necessarily make you a good person; there are other means of ethical ways of living your life. and I stress that word "ethical" here.
My point ntate, thanks.

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