“Swalakahla”

Since: Sep 10

Ka hare ho batho

#41 Oct 10, 2012
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.(Luke 1:28)
Blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:41-42a,Luke 1:48),
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:42b)
Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43)
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen (Luke 2:35, John 2:3-5

Moo le ka tholang tse ding tsa taba tsena, to ease ur curiousity!
Christ Follower

Maseru, Lesotho

#42 Oct 10, 2012
Honkha Phu wrote:
like Mokgatla's quote mentioned:the Rosary is merely used as a means of meditation. There wouldn't be the lord's prayers first and all the other prayers, together with the Hail Mary.
Ha re rapela, ha re rapele maria. The vocal part of the Rosary has prayers straight to Jesus.It is not a "Marian Prayer." That is because we are asking Mary to Pray for us. She is interceding the same way a pastor might pray for you or me. We think she is a kicking prayer warrior.
If hase hantle to ask Mary to pray for us; its therefore an unGodly request to Pastors to pray for you!
But bible says the only mediator between man and God is Jesus hence we dont need to go through Mary when we pray.
1Timothy2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus
Acts4:10-12
let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’[a] 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
John 14:6
Jesus said to him,“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Taba ea lithapelo Maria le rosari ke taba ea kereke ea roma hase ea bible joalokaha Lai-Lai a boletse
Christ Follower

Maseru, Lesotho

#43 Oct 10, 2012
Honkha Phu wrote:
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.(Luke 1:28)
Blessed art thou among women (Luke 1:41-42a,Luke 1:48),
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:42b)
Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43)
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen (Luke 2:35, John 2:3-5
Moo le ka tholang tse ding tsa taba tsena, to ease ur curiousity!
Luke2:35
35 (yes, a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed
John2:3-5
And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him,“They have no wine.”
4 Jesus said to her,“Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”
5 His mother said to the servants,“Whatever He says to you, do it.”
Temana tsena hoha moo li reng re ise lithapelo tsa rona ho Maria

“Bring it on!”

Since: Aug 08

Johannesburg

#44 Oct 10, 2012
LAI-LAI WA TERENE wrote:
<quoted text>kenahana o tshwanetse o tsebe dipotso tse nyenyefatsang letse batlang kutlwisiso. Ntho e etsuwang kerekeng etshwanetse ebe ena le reference moo bible, jwale tabataba ke hore rosari eo ya lona hahona moo e hlahellang in the bible. The next thing ke hore haho ntho efe kapa efe eka etswang ke motho ebe hothwe ena matla aka lekangwang lea Jesu. Hahona motho yaka lekangwang le Jesu. Jwale ntho e hlokehang ke ho phela kgalalelo o amohele Jesu bophelong ba hao. Rosari ke material haena kgalalelo okeke wa thola pholoho ho yona empa ho Jesu ke hona moo oka etholang
Le wena I am going to ask you to tell us which denomination you belong to, akere we have already established that I am Catholic, who or what do you identify as?

I will try and explain the purpose of the rosary according to MY understanding in the most elementary way possible.
It is a tool that helps those who use it to meditate and to remain focused through earnest prayer as well as to remember certain events or mysteries according to the Bible that forms part of our Christian faith.
No one has ever said it possess some supernatural power, it is just a religious symbol no more than you wearing a pendant of a cross on your necklace. No one has ever equated Mary to same level of divinity as Jesus. We believe in the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Our credo, tumelo ya Baapastola, nowhere does it say we believe in Mary.

Catholic dogma is inspired by certain events, apparations, miracles that happened throughout history but mostly by scripture. It depends purely on an individual if they choose to belief or not.No church tha exists today can be traced back to biblical times. I could never understand why one denomination would claim superiority over another. It is mind boggling. We all choose our faith based on how it best serves our own spiritual needs as spirituality too is diverse.

“Bring it on!”

Since: Aug 08

Johannesburg

#45 Oct 10, 2012
Korana wrote:
<quoted text> moea fatse mora mokhatla convince me with the bible about the rosary. U are a more enlightened christian i belive u can teach me better.stop telling me about peoples feelings and sugestions Show me from Gods infallible word
I have never been calmer.

“Swalakahla”

Since: Sep 10

Ka hare ho batho

#46 Oct 10, 2012
Ha re rapela, re isa dithapelo ho Ntate, Mora le Moya. We belive in Christ the saviour.

The use of a rosary ha e re etse ba sa dumeleng ho Christ. Like hose mo hlalositswe. The use of a rosary, ka tumelo ya Romeng, is to Meditate, not mediate.

Ke itse, Maria ho rona o tshwana feela le wena when going to ur Pastor asking him ho o rapella. by so doing, are u making ur Pastror a mediator btwn u & ur God? I don't think soo!

The use of a rosary is more about Jesus in Scripture than Mary. There are two layers to the Rosary. 1) The physical layer which is the repeating of prayers and 2) the meditation on the "Mysteries" which are scenes from Scripture of Jesus' life.
Sash_

Johannesburg, South Africa

#47 Oct 10, 2012
Hahaha, its interesting how we defend our beliefs when the truth is clear in the bible. Jesus is the only way.

“Bring it on!”

Since: Aug 08

Johannesburg

#48 Oct 10, 2012
Korana wrote:
<quoted text> u theole moea Jesu ona kena kereke efe roma? Hahahaha lol lmao Jeso roma ,ekare ke ea bona Morena Jesu a roetse rosari a ja sakaramente a ntsa etsa li hail mary a ooe banna
Your sense of humour is charming. Jesus IS the sacrament it never existed before him.

“Swalakahla”

Since: Sep 10

Ka hare ho batho

#49 Oct 10, 2012
Feela hee, kese ke boile tsena. A Christian is someone who believes in GOD. In believing we praise him in soo many ways.

All churches have their own cultures.
For nna as a Christian, I won't Judge nor condemn other churches practices, as they recognize Jesus as I don't he our saviour.

But if I don't hear the name of Jesus in a Church to me its not Christ. & in Roman Catholic Church Jesus ke lejwe la motheo.

Kea leboha!
Christ Follower

Maseru, Lesotho

#50 Oct 10, 2012
Ha ke re moruti/motsoalle a nthapelle haho tsoane leha u kopa hore Maria a u rapelle hobane Maria eena ha sa phela.Ho kopa ho rapelloa ke motho ea seng a sa phele ho tsoana le ho kopa balimo 'me hoo ke phoso mahlong a Jehova
Also bible say when we pray we should not make useless repetition.
Matthew 6:7
And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#51 Oct 10, 2012
Mokgatla wrote:
<quoted text>Your sense of humour is charming. Jesus IS the sacrament it never existed before him.
Hape ke ee ke utloe eka rosari e kenyeletsa tsela eo Jeso a ila e tsamaea ho tloha kahlolong ea hae ho ea sefapanong eleng moo a shoetseng teng. Joale ha ke utloe na motho a ka etsa khopotso ea lefu la hae joang. Oho ke bua feela lemoseleme lane le ske mpe la tla nhlapaola ho latela tumelo ea lona

“Bring it on!”

Since: Aug 08

Johannesburg

#52 Oct 10, 2012
Christ Follower wrote:
Ha ke re moruti/motsoalle a nthapelle haho tsoane leha u kopa hore Maria a u rapelle hobane Maria eena ha sa phela.Ho kopa ho rapelloa ke motho ea seng a sa phele ho tsoana le ho kopa balimo 'me hoo ke phoso mahlong a Jehova
Also bible say when we pray we should not make useless repetition.
Matthew 6:7
And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
You don't get it do you? Christ condemns thoughtlessness in prayer, of mindlessly repeating empty words. A rosary is a guide to earnest intense prayer and meditation where you loose focus of what is happening around you but only focusing in the meditation or the silence it is only through silence when you will hear God speak.

“TERENE HAE EME KOTEISING”

Since: May 12

KA TERENENG

#53 Oct 10, 2012
@Honkga Phuu! Wa mmakatsa hobane o tseba hantle hore Roma hona le setshwantsho sa Maria se kgumamelwang ose bolella mathata a hao. Jwale ebile hona le dithapelo le difela tse worshipang Maria movirego. Otlo mpolelle na tsena tsohle di tshwana kae leha ore moruti ao rapelle. Hape bothata ke hore le entse Maria modingwana le morapela le ho mojarisa mojaro wa Jesu. Le iphapanyetsa lengolo la John moo Jesus are "ke nna tsela, nnete le bophelo haho yatla ya ho ntate haese ka nna". Ke sono ka lona badumedi ba roma hoba ka nnete lona le dumela ka tiyo leha lesa utlwisise moelelo wa ntho eo le dumelang ho yona. Nna kere haeba o phela semoyeng bibele is your manual. Jwale roma le dumela ho dingolwa tse ding tse o sa tsebeng na motho ya dingotseng one ale tlasa tshutshumetso ya moya ofeng. Hlokomela mmadi hore mona ke hlaisa maikutlo aka hoya ka moo bibele e buang ka teng. Hoka etsahala hore keo hate kontshe empa eya bibeleng ya hao o obatle leho batlisisa hore na ho rapela Maria le ho rapela ka rosari diteng na ka morao ho moo etla otla lahlela wa hao molangwana. Lebitso la Morena Jesu le bokwe!!

“Bring it on!”

Since: Aug 08

Johannesburg

#54 Oct 10, 2012
But seriously though, when are people on this forum going to learn that Catholics are the hardest to convert, because we understand the deeper meaning and the significance of the rituals, the traditions, the reciatations and scriptural relevance thereof, no matter how non-sensical they may appear to those who don't understand them.

Catholics never undermine, judge nor condemn other religions nor denominations but we are constantly on the firing line.

There is part of hymn that goes: "Re ntse re tsekisoa mme re loantshoa ke dira, oho Pelo Ya Jeso" It has never been so apt!
Christ Follower

Maseru, Lesotho

#55 Oct 10, 2012
Mokgatla wrote:
But seriously though, when are people on this forum going to learn that Catholics are the hardest to convert, because we understand the deeper meaning and the significance of the rituals, the traditions, the reciatations and scriptural relevance thereof, no matter how non-sensical they may appear to those who don't understand them.
Catholics never undermine, judge nor condemn other religions nor denominations but we are constantly on the firing line.
There is part of hymn that goes: "Re ntse re tsekisoa mme re loantshoa ke dira, oho Pelo Ya Jeso" It has never been so apt!
My aim is not to judge, undermine or condemn any denomination but to show the from the Bible as it is so that someone who does not have info may know and make informed decision about the way to follow Jesus our Saviour
Sash_

Johannesburg, South Africa

#56 Oct 10, 2012
Christ Follower wrote:
<quoted text>My aim is not to judge, undermine or condemn any denomination but to show the from the Bible as it is so that someone who does not have info may know and make informed decision about the way to follow Jesus our Saviour
That is what happens when you say the truth. You will be labelled being judgemental.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#57 Oct 10, 2012
Joale nke ke bolelloe ke bo Mr Judge le Lemoseleme (for i see they have now joined forces to discredit the Catholic church) hore na nako ea ho rapela le ho bua le Molimo ba e thola neng, ea ho ba setulong sa boahloli eona ba e thole neng? Le ha ke se Moroma, feela kea utloa a tla hlola ba bangata hoba ona boholo ba nako ba khumame b'a rapela ha their counterparts bona ba emellane le ho tlosa tshiea e ka leihlong la ba bang n to stone the adulterous woman.
Those with ears....
Nko

Europe

#58 Oct 10, 2012
Nna le ea mmakatsa hale emellane le ho ahlola kereke e Catholic feela le lihlong ho paka hore le kena likereke li feeng? Answer pls. I'm a proud catholic for life and I'm not shy because on this platform ke hona moo ke tsebileng Jesu ele Motho ruri ebile ele Molimo ruri.
Nko

Europe

#59 Oct 10, 2012
Rosari ha e roaloe ke makatholiki feela le likereke tse ling tse kang ea Churche ba ea e roala. Joale ena ea Catholic e le t'soenya ka eng. Taba e teng moo. Hare rapele rosari empa rosari ke mokhoa o itseng oa ho rapela. Ka eeona re tseba ho hlahlamantsa lithapelo tseo tse khethehileng. Joale mamela mona hle ngoaneso,eeona Rosari eeo Molimo o kenya Matla a hae ho eeona hore e halalele joalo ka li olie,metsi esita le lijo akere o ee o rapele pele o ja hore Molimo a theolele moea oa hae ho tsona hore li halalele. Joale o oa bona hore ntho engoe e kholo ke khalalelo so rea elelloa hore a se lirosari tsohle tse kopetsoeng mohau kapa hlohonolo fatso tse o libona li roetsoe ke batho.
Nko

Europe

#60 Oct 10, 2012
Nnete ke hore le hare ahloloa re sonngoa, hahona kereke e tebang joalo ka khatholic litabeng tsa Mahlooko aao Jesu a kileng a utloa ho tloha serapeng sa kethesemane ho ea fihla sefapanong. Ha ke bue ka ho ithorisa etsoe kea tseba hore le likereke tse ling li na le karolo eeo li e bapalang hantle hore feeta feela rona hare tlholisang re mpa re phetha karolo eeo Molimo a re fileng eeona.

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