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All about buddha

Denver, CO

#1 Jan 6, 2012
Very interesting discussion at the Lao National Assembly this past summer. Dr. Khampheuy Panmalaythong has hit the right spot. All Lao people should listen thoroughly into the content of his speech. It's not about communism versus capitalism. It's about how Lao people has to learn how to react to the world. Think about it, even thought Lan Xang was established approximately 500 years ago, Lao civilization has been in existence for thousand of years (in southern China), and yet Laos has always been one of the weaknesses and most behind countries in the world. For those that think Communism is the main reason, think about the era prior to communism. I believe, according to history, we got our ass kicked by everyone that wanted to kicked our ass (Burma, Siam, France, Japan, Vietnam, etc...).

Dr. Khampheuy is right. I'm not a communist. I am a very educated Lao living in the US. My education level is a Master Degree.

LPDR

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jan 27, 2012
Dr. Khampheuy for the next Laos president. You got my votes sir :)
real lao

Plainfield, IL

#3 Jan 29, 2012
Listen his speech and watch his action , did he speak out from his heart or just to sell him self?
All about buddha

Denver, CO

#4 Jan 31, 2012
I hope he speaks from his heart, but I don't think that matters. What matters is he's bringing up issues has been dragging our Lao civilization for hundreds of years. If we can improve on the areas that he mentioned, the socioeconomic status of Lao people all over the world will improve.
Bounsoung Chaika

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Jan 31, 2012
Khampheuy had the gut to exercise his freedom of speech but does the LPDR have the gut to accept democracy at their heart to promote their country. I bet not! SINCE MANY lAO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COWARD AND DARE NOT SAYING OR REVOLTING AGAINST TOTALITARIAN. This is the root problem; Lao people have allowed authoritarian to prevail. I have not seen Lao people fighting their corrupted regime like Thai did or like Egyptiana or like Lybians did. Not even like Vietnamese who burnt themselves to protest the oppressors.

Talking is cheat; need to see Lao people actions even your own life. Moving the mountain is easier than changing Lao people's behavior. Once comfortable with oppressive regime, talking won't move the needle.

B.C.
LPDR

Naperville, IL

#6 Jan 31, 2012
He speak from his heart. Good point Bounsoung. Lao like to live in peace. That's why we been invade and control by foreigner for century. :(
All about buddha

Denver, CO

#7 Feb 1, 2012
Bounsong,
Dr. Khamphuey's speech is not about communist versus democracy. He's talking about how Lao people need to change our thought process and be open minded, look and learn from our surroundings. Blaming things on communism is old news. In fact, how do you explain the poor socioeconomic status of Lao people in the US? Yes it's true that we are doing a lot better than Lao peole living in Laos, but compare to the Vietnamess, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, etc.. we are the worst. If you don't believe me, please do research on Lao American socioeconomic status. The term "model minority" doesn't applied to us. Also, if communism is the primary reason why Laos is poor, then explain to me the era prior to communism. I believe we have always been one of poorest kingdoms in the world. We've got our ass kicked by all our neighbors. All Lao people need to come together and encourage advancement, so that we can bring pride back to our Lao people. Please get your facts straight.
LPDR

United States

#8 Feb 2, 2012
Sad but true. Lao, Khmer are not doing so well compare to Chinese, Indian or Korean, but Laos wi still be way better off under democracy. Now too much corruption. Absolute power corrupt. Laos can be better.
Bounsoung Chaika

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 3, 2012
All about buddha,

Do not blame the victims so much. Lao Americans and Lao French have done well compared to many native Americans and Native French. The Lao French came from the bourgoisie class and aristocrat class - they have done well; Lao-Americans came from more lower socioeconomic lass but they are doing not too bad compared to Lao Soung and Lao Theung Americans. Don't worry so much about Lao in the U.S. and France but I do worry about Lao in Laos, Burma (Lao Loung - Lost Lao, Sipsong Phanna, and remote areas in Laos). The communist regime promised to liberate Laos from the colinists and also promised both social and economic reforms; they did great job on social reform but terrible job on economic reform; the monarchy was gone in 1975 but a new form of monarchy has prevailed - the communist machine, namely Kaisone and now Saysomphone. Come on! give me a break! nothing new and nothing proven as progress. In fact, it is getting worse due to communist regime control. The hard bpart is the economic reform. Capitalist regime is more conducive to support and assist in accelerating economic reform. Khampheua is echoing a thurst to bring economic reform and good for him but he must go beyong rhetoric at the parliamentary hall - why not challenge Thong Sing for a PM post just like the owner of New Jersey Net challengin Putting for PM; he is filing his candidacy and I respect him so much. Come on! no fear but fight, no whining but action, no cop-out but challenging the old regime for real change.

You may not like my position to oust the communist regime but I speak from my heart and it is a tough love for the current Lao leaders. No more sugar coating; no more nice Lao politicians but real change since Laotians have sufferred for years due to poor leadership and flaw regime.

B.C.
All about buddha

Broomfield, CO

#10 Feb 3, 2012
Bounsong,
I agree with you that Laos needs reform. What I don't agree with is you tend to blame communism for our people backwardness. My position is we need to look at ourselve and improve ourselve, which will then translate to the social and government level. We need to accept te fact and improve on our weaknesses.
It's true Lao American have done well, but not as well as the others. Check out the link below. We are one of the worst. As a proud Lao, I am quite embarass by this stats.
http://www.asian-nation.org/demographics.shtm...
Also, you are absolute right about the root of the problem is the Lao people itself. Now we need to be fixed.
Bounsong Chaika

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Feb 3, 2012
All about buddha,

You can't compare Lao and Hmong to Vietnamese and Chinese. Laos was the poorest country in SE. Asia whereas, many Chinese and Vietnamese have had better educational background and industrial background. Look at the Asian student body at UC-Bekerley, many Chinese students are amongst the top. However, when we carefully examine these Chinese students, only the rich Chinese here and those came from wealthy families from Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Main land China are the top ones. Poor Chinese students from Indochina and here don't fare well in their academic score too.

In Fresno Unified School district where the Hmong are the prevailing S.E.Asians, many Hmong students graduated valedictorian and salutorian and yet very few enrolled at the U.C. system compared to Lao students. My claim is that many Lao students came from middle class and bourgoisie families in Laos. On the other hand many Lao from poor families and peasantry have not done well in higher education either.

What I have found that matters the most is the educational background of their parents and the current socioeconomic status of their families influence their education tremendously.

You can blame the Lao and Hmong culture but you need to move beyond traditional culture since the political system can change our socio-economic background. The communist regime in Laos can't be excused. We need to hold Kaysone and his cronies (Thong Sing and the Politburo machine accountable and responsible. I am afraid that they know how to do revolution but they fail short to govern with democracy and new economic opportunity. Every thing is the party's control. Thailand has no perfect system but they are making daily economic progress and political progress. Yingluck Chinawat won the election and the credi went to the Thai people.

Could Lao [eople do the same ... maybe many years to come and I am afraid that you and I won't see that change in our life time.

Aung Sa Succhi just came to visit the U.S. I hope the Burmese people realize of their tardiness to catch up the world. In 1930s to 1950s, Burma and Thailand were similar in economic prosperity. After the socialism prevailed in Ne Win's regime, Burma went backward while Thailand excelled tremendously behind Singapore and Malaysia and The Philippines.

I understand that you may disagree since you believe the Communist system; not me, I hold them accountable for the failure of the communist regime in Laos to catch up others, especially the western countries. Vietnam will excell and Vietnam will be the only hope to aid or motivate or stimulate Laos to follow Vietnam. Vietnamese are smart and they don't like "Communism" but they DISLIKE THE cHINESE who had colonized them for thousand years.

So long,

B.C.
All about buddha

Broomfield, CO

#12 Feb 4, 2012
Bounsong,
Firstly, I never said I believe in communism. What I said was Lao people need to moving beyond democratic versus communism, we need to put the focus on ourself. Both Lao living in Laos and abroad needs to open up their eyes and learn from others that are better than us. It's true communism is part of the problem in Laos, but you said it yourself that the root of the problem is Lao people itself. I refer to the Lao-American socioeconomic status as an example.

Secondly, we need to compare ourself against those that are more advance than us (Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese, etc.,), that's the only way we ever going to be advance as the others.

Thirdly, when you said Vietnamese are smart, I hope you are not implying that Lao people are not as smart as Vietnamese. Becareful with the wording you are using. I believe that Lao are as smart as Vietnamese. We just need to change our thought process so that we can be as advance as the others.

Finally, you said "On the other hand many Lao from poor families and peasantry have not done well in higher education either". Since the statistics per my last post shows Lao American have not done well compare to others, most Lao people living in the US must have been poor in Laos. In that case, the royalist regime must not have done a good job either. If the royalist had done a good job, why aren't the socioeconomic status of Lao people in the US fair well against the Vietnamese, Korean, Indian, Japanese, etc.

You sound like a smart and educated person. Think about the root of the problem....

Take care.
Bounsong Chaika

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Feb 4, 2012
A.a.b.,

The right wing government and the Royal Lao Families screwed up Laos, no doubt, but they have already paid their price; Laos King, Queen, and Crown Prince were tortured and killed by whatever means in Sam Neua. Many right wing government were sent to Sam Neua and other places and never returned. The Lao Communist Gulag had achieved their revenge; I only ask them to present their rationale to eradicate these main players and demonstrated their alternative to previous regime. I am not impressed with their progress.

The technocrat and working classes had left Laos and the Lao communists have seized power since 1975, 36 years - a very long time and it is time to ask hard questions whether what their behavior suffice the progress that they claimed in their mission; smart and civil societies need not to eradicate a cadre of people, especially, your political opponents.

Your rationale is that Lao people's real problem is their culture and value, which make them behind others. I disagree because there have been many factors that hinder Lao progress, namely, social environment, division, least exposure to others that has lead Laos to close their mind to adopt others', and the internal fight amongst the different families and factions such as Lao Louang Prabang, Lao Vientiane, Lao Champassak, Lao Deng including Phat Pasasoun Pativath and Phak Neo Lao Hak Sat. Kaysone, Nouhark, PhounSipraseuth, KhamTai, Chareun, Ang Sa Laolee, and others favored extreme communism while Souphanouvong was a moderate communist. In the end, Souphanouvong lost to Kaysone, Nouhark and Khamtai. His son, Kham Sai Souphanouvong was forced to take exile in New Zealand.

I don't know how long Kham Pheua will last unless his faction is strong enough to counter Thongsing, Choumaly Sayasone, and Saysomphone Phoumvihane's pressure. You see Sombath, the Mayor of Vientiane was kicked out of power recently. Somsavath Lengsavath was ousted as opposed to move up the ladder. Lengsavath is a Chinese descent and is from Louang Prabang.

In the U.S., You and I need to work hard to overcome many barriers. Let me suggest to you that you need to unite all Lao, Hmong, Mieng, Khmu, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Chinese, and Japanese for political power. Otherwise, we won't go far. I don't pay much attention of the current statistical data. If all Asian-Americans consolidate our political power, then we will have good chance to excell. If not, we won't fare well. There is always a pcket of each group doing so well since this groups may be born with special gift. The bottom line is about the "Havs and Havenots" theory.

You take care yourself. Take good care of your kids. Make noise to make change; get out to vote and to act; make noise to make change in our motherland, including pressure the Lao communist regime.

May Buddha bless you and your concern.

B.C.
LPDR

Naperville, IL

#14 Feb 4, 2012
Bounsoung thank for sharing your knowledge.
Laos can't do much right now because of Vietnam communist backing.
LPDR

Naperville, IL

#15 Feb 4, 2012
I'm hoping for Democracy in Laos in the future.
howard wang

Australia

#16 Mar 9, 2012
laos should join china ,we will populate and potect you.
LPDR

United States

#17 Mar 19, 2012
howard wang wrote:
laos should join china ,we will populate and potect you.
Na...maybe join Thailand. About 20 million Laotian already living in Thai.
Sith Bacccam

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Mar 23, 2012
Laos never changed because the current leaders are so much behind. Only the children of the old guards can get rid or dethrone their parents. Watch out Kayson's grand son might turn against his father, Saysomphone.

Good luck to you all Lao Nai.

S B
LPDR

United States

#19 Mar 26, 2012
Laos will change when these dinosaurs Commies retired, and new generation of Lao leader are in power.
Ph Oud

Lao People's Democratic Republic

#20 Jul 9, 2012
Good speech, wish you to have good luck

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