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"According to CNN, Savoie learned his children had been taken to Japan when they did not show up for the first day of school in Tennessee in August.

Savoie then successfully petitioned for full custody and Franklin police issued an arrest warrant for his ex-wife, Noriko, who had been living in Tennessee since the couple's divorce, according to the news report.

But Japanese law does not recognize foreign custody orders, and Savoie's attempts to recover his children through proper channels quickly proved fruitless. That's when he flew to Japan."

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp...

"Family law is very weak in Japan. There is also a cultural perception that a Japanese child is best off in Japan with a Japanese parent. Boiled down, the law is: Whoever has possession has possession and the other parent should mind his own business," Morley said.

"Culturally, there is no concept of dual custody or visitation. Once a couple gets divorced, the children are typically assigned to one parent and never again have contact with the other parent."

"Parental abduction is not a crime in Japan, but taking a child out of Japan is a crime. It is legal to abduct my own kid in Japan, but it's a crime to take her back home with me."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story...

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What a puff piece on the Today Show! The interviewer could have asked so many interesting questions. There is hardly anything to discuss. We'll try:

“Picking my kids up, hugging them and putting them in the car — I hardly thought that would be considered criminal. So it was a big shock to me that police actually took it in that manner.”

I curious why he didn't mention his gang. Maybe they could have had a group hug? He didn't mention one of his thugs "neutralizing" Noriko.

‘Please stay in Japan, and have a family court decide the custody first,’ I would have done that.”

As we have been saying all along, he could have done while in Japan. But he didn't want to, nor did he ever intend to do that. He carried out his plan.

"There wasn't much of a struggle."

Well, well! Is this finally an admission that there was a struggle. I'd really like to find out from Noriko what not "much of a struggle" means. Especially in a situation where 5 wanna-be Rambos are kidnapping your children.

"18 days of 12 hours a day interrogations."

Sure. Like Chris-kun had anything interesting to say. I imagine they were glad to see him go. It was probably 18 days of complaining about the food, Japanese toilets, and imaginary illnesses.

"It was just too horrible to recall."

He seemed to do a pretty good job of recalling it. It is probably just too much fiction to recall.

I did like it when the light popped. My wife thought he had this spooked and guilty look on his face.It does look like he is wrapped pretty tight.
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Amazing! You feel good about yourself after writing that?
You feel happy about other people's problems?
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Amazing! You feel good about yourself after writing that? You feel happy about other people's problems?
On the contrary, I am others are mad as hell that he's getting a free pass to spout off lies to the American mass media, because they don't have enough resources to check his statements (verifying international facts using a foreign language requires too much resources in different departments of the newsroom) and ask hard questions.

He knows this, which has emboldened him to continue to fabricate, because he knows that the U.S. media cannot check and verify his claims about what when on at the consulate, during the re-abduction, and in the jail.
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TNMtMan wrote:
What a puff piece on the Today Show! The interviewer could have asked so many interesting questions. There is hardly anything to discuss. We'll try:
“Picking my kids up, hugging them and putting them in the car — I hardly thought that would be considered criminal. So it was a big shock to me that police actually took it in that manner.”
I curious why he didn't mention his gang. Maybe they could have had a group hug? He didn't mention one of his thugs "neutralizing" Noriko.
‘Please stay in Japan, and have a family court decide the custody first,’ I would have done that.”
As we have been saying all along, he could have done while in Japan. But he didn't want to, nor did he ever intend to do that. He carried out his plan.
"There wasn't much of a struggle."
Well, well! Is this finally an admission that there was a struggle. I'd really like to find out from Noriko what not "much of a struggle" means. Especially in a situation where 5 wanna-be Rambos are kidnapping your children.
"18 days of 12 hours a day interrogations."
Sure. Like Chris-kun had anything interesting to say. I imagine they were glad to see him go. It was probably 18 days of complaining about the food, Japanese toilets, and imaginary illnesses.
"It was just too horrible to recall."
He seemed to do a pretty good job of recalling it. It is probably just too much fiction to recall.
I did like it when the light popped. My wife thought he had this spooked and guilty look on his face.It does look like he is wrapped pretty tight.
On the light popping situation, I kept wondering if that startled look was the same as the children had that fateful morning. It seems any decent parent would want to sheild a child from fear instead of produce it. The interview was better than the completly one-sided ones of the past. I think the hosts were more interested in that other guy who had an affair and then his wife kidnapped hereself and made a sex tape with her accomplice. That must have made for an interesting green room. Be sure to check out the other thread (a new one for some reason with an old headline).
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Where is the truth?
“Savoie then successfully petitioned for full custody.”

How can one go from by monthly week-end visitations to full custody? I mean, the court already established that “for the best interest of children”, the mother was to be the primary caregiver, but because she took them back to Japan, now “the best interest of the children” is the father as a primary caregiver??? It does not make too much sense to me…

“Franklin police issued an arrest warrant for his ex-wife, Noriko.”

This part I can understand. However, a warrant is normally issued first, and upon arrest, custody of children is being discussed. Seems the reverse happened in this case.

“But Japanese law does not recognize foreign custody orders”

Does it matter in this case? When she left for Japan, she HAD custody of the children, from both, the Japanese point of view, and the Tennessee Court.

“Family law is very weak in Japan. There is also a cultural perception that a Japanese child is best off in Japan with a Japanese parent.”

Then Chris Savoie was extremely fortunate his wife agreed to move to Tennessee with the children, knowing she had the” upper hand” in Japan. It is sad he antagonized her over time.

“Savoie’s attempts to recover his children through proper channels quickly proved fruitless. That's when he flew to Japan."

As soon as he realized his children were gone, he went to court demanding full custody, and flew to Japan. What proper channels?
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On the contrary, I am others are mad as hell that he's getting a free pass to spout off lies to the American mass media, because they don't have enough resources to check his statements (verifying international facts using a foreign language requires too much resources in different departments of the newsroom) and ask hard questions.
He knows this, which has emboldened him to continue to fabricate, because he knows that the U.S. media cannot check and verify his claims about what when on at the consulate, during the re-abduction, and in the jail.
Marry in Japan,
I don't know about that. The media has all the resources necessary, and some more, to conduct in-depth investigations and interviews. In this case, they probably didn't see the benefit in spending extra money.
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Marry in Japan,
I don't know about that. The media has all the resources necessary, and some more, to conduct in-depth investigations and interviews. In this case, they probably didn't see the benefit in spending extra money.
I wonder if they tread lightly with this case because of the push of US gov't to sign the Hague Conv.? It would be so easy for the media to poke holes in his story as has been done on these forums.
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<quoted text>I wonder if they tread lightly with this case because of the push of US gov't to sign the Hague Conv.? It would be so easy for the media to poke holes in his story as has been done on these forums.
Parhaps. As for the media poking holes, he is very, very lucky Nancy Grace did not get a hold of his story. I would have felt sorry for him.:)
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