Indian court bars Italian ambassador from leaving, demands answers in marine shooting case

Mar 14, 2013 Full story: canada.com 21

India's Supreme Court barred Italy's ambassador from leaving the country Thursday and demanded that he explain why his country is refusing to return two Italian marines to stand trial for the killing of two Indian fishermen, according to the Press Trust of India.

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yatendra singh

Chandigarh, India

#1 Mar 14, 2013
Only solution,arrest italian ambassador and give that bastard the highest punishment.
john

Ashburn, VA

#2 Mar 14, 2013
yatendra singh wrote:
Only solution,arrest italian ambassador and give that bastard the highest punishment.
ya we should declare war against italy
David

UK

#3 Mar 15, 2013
Yatendra Singh I take it democracy has touch India yet as you can't punish a man for something he didn't do. You have the death penalty so your saying he must die, how stupid are you?
You country is breaking international law by refusing to let the diplomat leave, it's called the Vienna convention. Your country can't just make up your own rules.

The marines made a mistake in international waters, where its out of your rule of law. It was intentional you need to look around 17th century justice and join 2013
Pravesh

Kharagpur, India

#4 Mar 15, 2013
Mr. David, you fail to acknowledge the fact that the Italian ambassador has signed a sworn affidavit in the supreme court of India which makes him personally responsible for the return of the two marines effectively voids his diplomatic immunity in this particular case. Therefore the Italian ambassador can ans should be detained until this matter is resolved and the marines are returned. Rome can't expect an easy escape from this matter.
David

UK

#5 Mar 18, 2013
They were in international water you have no power to enforce your law. That's the lawof the sea. Piracy killed that fish man sadly. The marines made a mistake serving and protect crews of ships, don't be so narrowmind.
On the ambassador am sure he believed that they would be returned but if the higher power in Italy stop them it's hard for him to do anything.
Gautam

Adelaide, Australia

#7 Mar 20, 2013
David wrote:
They were in international water you have no power to enforce your law. That's the lawof the sea. Piracy killed that fish man sadly. The marines made a mistake serving and protect crews of ships, don't be so narrowmind.
On the ambassador am sure he believed that they would be returned but if the higher power in Italy stop them it's hard for him to do anything.
Your statement is factually wrong. First, the incident happened in Indian waters (your word against ours); Second, you are implying that murderers are off the hook if the murder was a mistake, right?; Thirdly, Piracy didnt kill the fishermen, the marines did! and finally, an ambassador of a country speaks on behalf of that government, if this wasn't the case, then there is no point in having them, at all.
David

Derby, UK

#8 Mar 21, 2013
No because its not murder then it's manslaughter and if you say it's your word against are you can't prove it was in your waters then you can't say they was.
No piracy did kill them, if there wasn't piracy then the marine wouldn't have been there.
No an ambassador represents the country really he has no power over his elected government.
At the end of the day you have to ask yourself did they full go out to kill a fisherman no they fully believed it was a pirate, they've go to live with that for the rest of there life's.
it shouldn't be the death penalty and you know it, what ever happen they should serve there sentence in Italy.

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#9 Mar 21, 2013
David you will lie through your teeth. Would they kill US citizens in US waters. Is
Italy not a catholic country any more for fabricating all the lies.
David

Derby, UK

#10 Mar 22, 2013
Well because there is no piracy in the US so you point isn't a valid point.
How am I lying? Explain.
The very fact that if they are in international waters is where the rule of law apply and if its international waters then its going to have to go to the United Nations.
Gautam

Adelaide, Australia

#11 Mar 22, 2013
Manslaughter. You said it! Would you care to explain the punishment for manslaughter? Think about it, these are professional soldiers, how can they make a misktake like that? Did their brief say they should shoot at anyone in sight? Did they not have to be 101% sure? We are talking about human lives here, have some heart. Think about the families who have lost the sole bread winner, have some heart! And yes they should be tried in the country they have committed the crime/mistake. I agree that the punishment for manslaughter shouldn't be death penalty and I trust our courts.

Since: Apr 12

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#12 Mar 22, 2013
David believe's you can kill any one in the international waters. horrible. The fisher men were not in the international waters. They had small boat which could never ever
Be safe in the big wide sea. They were fishing in Indian waters. Only arrogant Italians
Fish in International waters and kill humans just making their livelihood to feed their family.

“Grow the power within yourself”

Since: Feb 11

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#13 Mar 22, 2013
Italians and foreign policies. Something new? Or more of the same? As a well-versed European with historical roots to nations that have managed to keep its head above all garbage the last century. What about Italy at same time?

•World war one: was flirting with the Central powers for several years, then joined the other side and even with that added frontage upon the Austrians the entire Italian front almost collapsed and they would have been history if it weren't for a combination of other nations aid, slowness of advances in general and not the least how overextended the Habsburgs were.

•30's: invade another sovereign nation because they can and with overwhelming force kills thousands and terrorizes many others.
Then they send troops into another country's civil war as well.

•WW2: "neutral" from the beginning, then stabbed the French in the back when it was obvious the Germans already had beaten the French on K.O. It gets better!! One year later the Italians decided to invade Greece. A Greek army with third rate arms, but first-class passion drove them into Albania and if it weren't for nazi-units rushed in the Italians would all have been Greek POW's.
•finally, it took Italians very brief moment to roll flat and surrender the moment their mainland had enemy troops upon it. This last thing is their greatest contribution to the entire war, besides tying up high-level German troops that enabled allied and Sovjet units to advance quicker.

David knows EXCACTLY what is implied by never shooting at US fishermen on US coast. Crying for the UN is what cowards do. Be a man and own up to it!!! Also, were you all Italians surprised by a nation that holds people's word and honor to something besides empty words?

A morally bankrupt nation known for corruption, surrender ism, bravado and fraud is trying to take on a power it cannot even touch the toe nails of. Don't mess with India!! I would have said the same if it were on the US coast, but we all know Italians would never dare brandishing an empty cartridge anywhere where they may risk accountability. I guess that includes India fr now on.....

“Grow the power within yourself”

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#14 Mar 22, 2013
David wrote:
No because its not murder then it's manslaughter and if you say it's your word against are you can't prove it was in your waters then you can't say they was.
No piracy did kill them, if there wasn't piracy then the marine wouldn't have been there.
No an ambassador represents the country really he has no power over his elected government.
At the end of the day you have to ask yourself did they full go out to kill a fisherman no they fully believed it was a pirate, they've go to live with that for the rest of there life's.
it shouldn't be the death penalty and you know it, what ever happen they should serve there sentence in Italy.
You sound like a super-idiot!! So if a cop shoots someone erroneously it's criminals that killed that person? That's like saying if there were no crimes, there would be no cops, so let them just kill whoever.

The arrogance of Italy and its feeble apologists here will just make India even MORE determined to punish MURDERERS. Just like Italians would have demanded. You guys screwed up. Owe up to it, apologize, offer restitution and otherwise STFU and be at the mercy of the Indian judicial system. The families of two dead fishermen deserve at least THAT much!!

“Grow the power within yourself”

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#15 Mar 22, 2013
10-20 Years to life sounds appropriate. Since they opted not to sit in jail, there should be no deductions here..

“Grow the power within yourself”

Since: Feb 11

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#16 Mar 23, 2013
Finally, Italian justice system is probably not going to give these "heroes" a fair trial, that us fair towards the families if two MURDERED fishermen.

A well-disciplined army would execute them itself, but then again, it appears obvious that the Italians were doing everything they could to dodge justice here.

Again, don't mess with India suckers!! That country ain't Ethiopia or Albania, you know. If you take on someone much bigger than you and basically start the confrontation with telling them to fuck off or go to He11, expect at least some spanking and don't keep playing tough guy unless you want more..

Finally, if this was a nation Italy had respect for, this would not happen. Don't come up with that lame azz excuse about pirates!! Should the cops all over the place just start shooting randomly at anyone they see using such lame excuses??

“Grow the power within yourself”

Since: Feb 11

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#17 Mar 23, 2013
Humhainna wrote:
David believe's you can kill any one in the international waters. horrible. The fisher men were not in the international waters. They had small boat which could never ever
Be safe in the big wide sea. They were fishing in Indian waters. Only arrogant Italians
Fish in International waters and kill humans just making their livelihood to feed their family.
Yap!!! The guts and shamelessness of the Italians here is nothing but disgusting. The use legal nit picking and obscure verbiage to dodge responsibility for the death of two absolutely innocent people. I'm personally opponent of death penalty, but will not fell sorry if the Indian media and public pressure leads to such after how the disgusting Italians lied and tried to scam away from owing up to this atrocity!!

Finally, what's up with giving them silky conditions? They MURDERED two Indians in India. They deserve Indian jail conditions, but then again, the Indian authorities have tried to ease it somewhat for them, but that was obviously not good enough for them. Maybe they expected medals for killing someone they thought were pirates??

Since: Apr 12

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#18 Mar 23, 2013
Italians are trigger happy. They wanted the medal for killing two innocent people. They must face the full force of law. They did not kill two people. They killed the
Whole families. In the west nobody depends upon any body. Every body is individual but in India the whole family is one unit and they could never ever come out of the mourning their whole life will be like a living dead. They will do every thing they can to get off the hook.
The Iron Dictator

Podgorica, Montenegro

#19 Mar 23, 2013
There are to much Indians...who care ?

Italians need another Mussolini!!!
AntiGlobalist westerner

Spokane, WA

#20 Mar 25, 2013
Unfortunately, lots of holier-than-thou disgusting idiot Western powers still think France is a super power, Italians have a similar claim to Western grandeur and everybody who doesn't sign a blanco approval of anything "international", must clearly be a lesser nation!!

Great of India to stand up to simple villains trying to over dress themselves in globalist party outfit! I hope they just lock them up and throw they keys. Italians tried to dodge justice and must pay for that...

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#21 Mar 25, 2013
Italians or Indians must face the law. I have no disrespect for Italians.ntheynare lovely
People a bit arrogant but it's ok.

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