Story: New DNA Science Research Confirms...Jews Are Not Descendents of Abraham

Apr 2, 2013 Full story: Palo Alto Weekly 356

'I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan.' Who should possess the land of Israel? Christian evangelicals say it should be the descendants of Abraham.

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#348 May 1, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Actually Max, I am asexual, not sexual. Sex is of the flesh, I'm not carnal, I'm spiritual and besides that, 80% of people are bi sexual.
rabbee: that sounds more like, it is from halooseefer. thats worse than the worship of hasatan, and baal hamolech.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#349 May 1, 2013
Susan B---God changed Jacobs name to Israel which means overcomer.

HughBe--- Thanks for the info.

Susan B---God also observes the names given by men to people and places and the term Jew comes from a member of the house of Judah.

HughBe--- So when God realizes His mistake He yields to the BETTER REPLACEMENT meaning name given by man.

Is Israel no longer an overcomer?



Susan-- Collectively, we are all called Israel.

HughBe--- Really?

Susan---The Jewish nation calls themselves Israel and they are a small part of the chosen people.

HughBe--- I see. Is it common practice TODAY for a member of Asher or a member of another Northern tribe to call himself a Jew?

Susan---The serpent didn't speak, Adam did and he deceived Eve into oral sex.

HughBe--- My dear Susan you have been DECEIVED. Prove that the serpent did not speak.

Explain this text "Now the serpent was cunning, more than all the beasts of the field that the Lord God had made, and IT said to the woman, "Did God indeed say,'You shall not eat of any of the trees of the garden?'"

What is the IT in the text above?

Who is speaking, Susan?

Susan--- Eve "gave" it to him.

HughBe--- Gave what, Susan? Answer from the scriptures " And the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was a delight to the eyes, and the tree was desirable to make one wise; so she TOOK OF ITS FRUIT, and SHE ATE, and SHE GAVE ALSO to her HUSBAND with her, and HE ATE." Genesis 3:6

So the scriptures PLAINLY states that the woman/EVE gave the FRUIT that she picked to her husband and he ate it.

Your rabbis clearly teaches something else and YOU in an inexplicable way accept and believe the UTTER NONSENSE that the dimwits teach.

Susan--- God is omniscient but asked Adam what he had done to give him the opportunity to confess.

HughBe--- So?

Susan--- Not only does Adam blame Eve for performing the act, he also blames God for giving him the woman.

HughBe---performing which act? which words in Genesis 3 translates into ORAL SEX?

In the context of the story where do YOU read that Adam KNEW his wife?

Where else in the Tanach do YOU see ORAL SEX?

Susan--- Adam is the culprit and is responsible for what happened in the garden of Eden. Sexual relations is also called carnal "knowledge"

HUghBe--- Take your time to STUDY the scriptures. What you are saying makes absolutely no sense.

Outstanding matters---

1.Did God make a covenant with the "JEWS" when they came out of Egypt?

2.Did He make a covenant with the house of ISRAEL, after the exodus?

3.How does a reference to the southern kingdom as Judah in a later verse change the fact that earlier they were called by their God given name, Israel?

4. are YOU saying to me that the Northern kingdom was taken into captivity by Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon?

5.Please explain the meaning of FIRST in the text and LAST after which explain the full text.
"ISRAEL is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: FIRST the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and LAST this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones" Jeremiah 50:17
.
6. Explain, "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#350 May 1, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>10% each are heterosexual and homosexual.
Susan---80% of people are bi sexual

HughBe--- I take it that your 80% is a reference to your group and I also take it that the remaining 20% are homosexuals.

Susan---10% each are heterosexual and homosexual.

HughBe--- So, 90% of your group are engaged in UNNATURAL intercourse.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#351 May 1, 2013
HughBe---Genesis 3:6--- "she TOOK OF ITS FRUIT, and SHE ATE, and SHE GAVE ALSO to her HUSBAND with her, and HE ATE."

Susan B--- Adam did and he deceived Eve into oral sex.

HughBe--- What an amazing; TWISTING, MISREPRESENTATION and CORRUPTION of the scriptures.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#352 May 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Susan---80% of people are bi sexual
HughBe--- I take it that your 80% is a reference to your group and I also take it that the remaining 20% are homosexuals.
Susan---10% each are heterosexual and homosexual.
HughBe--- So, 90% of your group are engaged in UNNATURAL intercourse.
Most bi sexuals have followed their heterosexual inclinations which is preferable. A full marriage should only be between a man and a woman for purposes of raising a family, but procreation is no longer necessary and I do believe in civil unions. Times change.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#353 May 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
HughBe---Genesis 3:6--- "she TOOK OF ITS FRUIT, and SHE ATE, and SHE GAVE ALSO to her HUSBAND with her, and HE ATE."
Susan B--- Adam did and he deceived Eve into oral sex.
HughBe--- What an amazing; TWISTING, MISREPRESENTATION and CORRUPTION of the scriptures.
The Adam and Eve story is a parable and some things are allegorical. If the "fruit" was literally an apple there would be a commandment prohibiting its consumption. Adam may have tasted the fruit, that's what the scripture says. This will be the parable at the Messiahs' trial, it explains a lot of things. "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#354 May 2, 2013
Hughbe, "Subtil" means having an intellect, and man was the only being with an intellect. That's what separates us from the animals. My theology is my own and is not shared by the Rabbis or any established rabbinical authority. There is a law in the OT prohibiting sodomy by the children of Israel but not Gentiles. The "first and the last" comes from a circle, they are joined together and a circle represents eternity.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#355 May 2, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The Adam and Eve story is a parable and some things are allegorical. If the "fruit" was literally an apple there would be a commandment prohibiting its consumption. Adam may have tasted the fruit, that's what the scripture says. This will be the parable at the Messiahs' trial, it explains a lot of things. "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."
rabbee: now we are quoting ben franklin, from the scriptures of little richards almanac? why not, cleanliness is next to G-Dliness, or G-D helps those, who help themselves - also?

if what you say produces no fruit, then it must be secular. but i am not so sure, about the hot apple pie thingy - not being allegorical. but quite frankly, no pun intended. i believe G-D, only helps those, who let G-D help them more than anyone else.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#356 May 2, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Hughbe, "Subtil" means having an intellect, and man was the only being with an intellect. That's what separates us from the animals. My theology is my own and is not shared by the Rabbis or any established rabbinical authority. There is a law in the OT prohibiting sodomy by the children of Israel but not Gentiles. The "first and the last" comes from a circle, they are joined together and a circle represents eternity.
rabbee: no! subtle means, an indirectly or finely altered intent. a deception, ploy, head-game, a fraud for personal gain or gratification, to decieve with errant, misleading knowledge, a misdirection of intent, a highly polished liar.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#357 May 2, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Most bi sexuals have followed their heterosexual inclinations which is preferable. A full marriage should only be between a man and a woman for purposes of raising a family, but procreation is no longer necessary and I do believe in civil unions. Times change.
Susan B---A full marriage should only be between a man and a woman for purposes of raising a family,

HughBe--- Is that what you were taught or are you just expressing a personal opinion?

What is the difference between a "full marriage" and one that is not FULL? What is the marriage FULL of?

Note, your view is certainly at variance to what is in the Tanach.

Susan B-- but procreation is no longer necessary

HughBe--- Based on what?

Susan B--and I do believe in civil unions. Times change.

HughBe---1. You are always,in my mind, free to believe whatever makes you comfortable but that does not make it RIGHT.

2. Indeed "times change" and no doubt your god "OBSERVES" the changing LAWS and STANDARDS of man BUT the God of Abraham NEVER changes."For I am the Lord, I change NOT" Malachi 3:6

Recall you said "God also OBSERVES the names given by men to people"

When you spoke of OBSERVES what exactly do you mean?

Do you mean God abides by or KEEPS or follows the names that men gives even though they are different than the name He has given?

Support your view.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#358 May 2, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The Adam and Eve story is a parable and some things are allegorical. If the "fruit" was literally an apple there would be a commandment prohibiting its consumption. Adam may have tasted the fruit, that's what the scripture says. This will be the parable at the Messiahs' trial, it explains a lot of things. "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."
Previously

Susan---The serpent didn't speak, Adam did and he deceived Eve into oral sex.

HughBe--yet the scriptures plainly states "And the SERPENT SAID(spoke) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die" Genesis 3:4

NOW

HughBe---Genesis 3:6--- "she TOOK OF ITS FRUIT, and SHE ATE, and SHE GAVE ALSO to her HUSBAND with her, and HE ATE."

Susan B--- Adam did and he deceived Eve into oral sex.

HughBe--- What an amazing; TWISTING, MISREPRESENTATION and CORRUPTION of the scriptures.

Susan B--The Adam and Eve story is a parable and some things are allegorical.

HughBe--- If that is how you felt why not state it before?

Your position is nonsensical. Explain the parable. What is a parable?

Explain genealogies with Adam?

Did a non-existent Adam begat Seth?

Explain this text, "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:"

Does your religion Judaism speaks in terms of years from Adam? If so explain the sense in numbering years from a fictitious character Adam?

Is there any sound and sensible doctrine in Judaism?

Susan B--- If the "fruit" was literally an APPLE there would be a commandment prohibiting its consumption.

HughBe--- Leave Judaism, Susan it is BS. Cite the scripture that says the fruit was an APPLE.

Susan B--- Adam may have tasted the fruit, that's what the scripture says.

HughBe--- Is it that you are doubting your ability to understand simple words? It must be otherwise you could NEVER have expressed doubts i.e. "Adam MAY have tasted the fruit"

Do you regard yourself as even of average intelligence?

If so why do you swallow the utter BS from dim-witted fools/rabbis?

Susan B--This will be the parable at the Messiahs' trial, it explains a lot of things. "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."

HughBe--- Poor Susan, you are DECEIVED by tools of the Serpent
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#359 May 2, 2013
Dear Hughbe, Your posts are very longwinded and difficult to fully reply to. I believe only heterosexual couples should raise children, that is what I meant by a full marriage. Gods character does not change, not his laws. With 7 billion people in the world, we don't need anymore although heaven and hell are never full. People can be called by a number of different names, like nicknames. As for the story of Adam and Eve, you'll have to wait for the Messiahs trial along with everybody else.
Max

Montréal, Canada

#360 May 2, 2013
susanblange wrote:
I believe only heterosexual couples should raise children
Indeed, we don't need more gay people raising kids to be gay themselves, we have enough already.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#361 May 2, 2013
Max wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed, we don't need more gay people raising kids to be gay themselves, we have enough already.
rabbee: especially since even one, is over the legal limit according to G-D. it means your society, is about to come unglued from all your pretend greater G-Dless corruption.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#362 May 2, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Dear Hughbe, Your posts are very longwinded and difficult to fully reply to. I believe only heterosexual couples should raise children, that is what I meant by a full marriage. Gods character does not change, not his laws. With 7 billion people in the world, we don't need anymore although heaven and hell are never full. People can be called by a number of different names, like nicknames. As for the story of Adam and Eve, you'll have to wait for the Messiahs trial along with everybody else.
God bless you abundantly, Susan. May He bless you with knowledge, wisdom, understanding and peace.

Take care, Susan.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#363 May 2, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
God bless you abundantly, Susan. May He bless you with knowledge, wisdom, understanding and peace.
Take care, Susan.
Thank you Hughbe, God bless you too.

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