Israel to authorize four West Bank settler outposts

May 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

Israel plans to declare legal four unauthorized West Bank settler outposts, a court document showed on Thursday, days before U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry returns to the region to try to restart peace talks.

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lambroni ardziv

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stealing more PALESTINIAN lands soon the Palestinians will not own any lands they will become strangers in their homeland i do not want to hear any one tell me that GOD gave this land to israelites i want see the deed and dont tell me the Bible tells so end
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God gave the land to the Jews. It's in the Bible.
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lambroni ardziv wrote:
stealing more PALESTINIAN lands soon the Palestinians will not own any lands they will become strangers in their homeland i do not want to hear any one tell me that GOD gave this land to israelites i want see the deed and dont tell me the Bible tells so end
Can you give any evidence that a Palestinian owned this land at any point?
Can you give any evidence that the Palestinian nation as a legal right to the land???
Nothing to do with god but the League of Nations/Mandate for Palestine/UN and international law.
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These settlers are doing the right thing. Israel needs to expand , not contract.
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Nutjobs here wrote:
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Can you give any evidence that a Palestinian owned this land at any point?
Can you give any evidence that the Palestinian nation as a legal right to the land???
Nothing to do with god but the League of Nations/Mandate for Palestine/UN and international law.
now let us turn your answers on its head can you give evidence that an jew from Europe or the then soviet union owned this land at any point .can you give any evidence that the israeli nation is a legal right to the land where did the league of nations/mandate got the authority.
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PLEASE! Do your credibility a favor and drop the Hasbara Script/ Ziono-Mythology Chant.

It doesn't matter what you call the non Jewish, neo-Canaanites that have inhabited the Levant for Thousands of years.

There's no "Evidence" of Solomon's Temple either:

"Solomon's Temple"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Solomo...
According to the Hebrew Bible, Solomon's Temple, also known as the First Temple, was the Holy Temple (Hebrew: &#1489;&#1461;&#14 68;&#1497;&#1514;& #1470;&#1492;&#1463; &#1502;&#1460;&#14 68;&#1511;&#1456;& #1491;&#1464;&#1468; &#1513;&#1473;&#82 06;: Bet HaMikdash) in ancient Jerusalem, on the Temple Mount (also known as Mount Zion), before its alleged destruction by Nebuchadnezzar II after the Siege of Jerusalem of 587 BCE.“There is no direct archaeological evidence for the existence of Solomon's Temple, and no mention of it in the surviving contemporary extra-biblical literature.”CONTINUED

I use the term "Neo-Canaanites because a Jewish geneticist has proven, beyond a doubt that Levantine Arabs are the most closely related to pre Bronze Age inhabitants of what other people call "Palestine"

“New Genome Study Destroys Zionist Claims to Palestine”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/01/new-g...
EXCERPTS “ On December 14, 2012, Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of Jewish genome research upside down.
“But he went even further. The young Israeli-American geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up.”

“How could those those eminent Jewish scientist before him have been so wrong? Easy says Dr. Elhaik,“First these researchers decided what conclusions they wanted to find, and then they set off to find evidence to support it.” I was not bashing Jewish scientists. What Elhaik has described is a slam dunk fraud.

“But why? Why would Jews who take such pride in the academic achievement risk exposing themselves to a group deception which was bound to be discovered later? Dr. Elhaik does not delve into the quicksand of the politics,” CONTINUED
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There's no Extra Biblical mention of "Israel" either:

“IN ANCIENT EGYPT, CANAAN REVISITED WITHOUT ISRAEL”

http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/in-a...

EXCERPT "In his article “Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho“, appearing in Ha’aretz (29 October 1999), Ze’ev Herzog calls the mention of Israel on the stele a reference to “population group of nomads” who most probably were always on the move, looking for fertile land to herd their animals. In the article Herzog concludes.

“Following 70 years of intensive excavations in the Land of Israel, archaeologists have found out:

The patriarchs’ acts are legendary stories, we did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, and we did not conquer the land.

Neither is there any mention of the empire of David and Solomon.

Those who take an interest have known these facts for years, but Israel is a stubborn people and doesn’t want to hear about it.”

Did you know that Egypt is mentioned in the Holy Bible approximately 700 times (Egypt: 595 times, Egyptian(s): 120 times).

Israelites were mentioned in the ancient Egyptian records once or … maybe none at all."CONTINUED
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"Israel" is only occupied by recent FOREIGN Ashkenazi/Khazarian, Brooklynite Invaders with NO recient connection to the Land

According to the most reputable source *"The British Mandatory Survey & Census of Palestine" only 2% of the approx. population 2% of the (estimated)

The Jewish Pop. doubled from 1922 to 1931 by FOREIGN INVADERS!

Zionist Terrorist Gangs have been "Genociding" native neo Canaanites ever since the 1940s

* Look it up yourself

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It's nice to see the Israelis making good use of their land.
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lambroni ardziv wrote:
<quoted text>now let us turn your answers on its head can you give evidence that an jew from Europe or the then soviet union owned this land at any point .can you give any evidence that the israeli nation is a legal right to the land where did the league of nations/mandate got the authority.
You are the one who claimed that Palestinian land is being stolen so it is you who has to prove what you say. I am denying it and asking for evidence.

You obviously have no evidence as there isn't any. The land is legally for a Jewish state.
When you tak about international legality than the UN-league of nations and mandates are the law. You may not like it but that is the reality.
There is plenty of evidence that many of the landowners of Palestine sold land to Jews from Europe. You are obviously in denial blinded by your hate for Israel.
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You are the one who claimed that Palestinian land is being stolen so it is you who has to prove what you say. I am denying it and asking for evidence.
You obviously have no evidence as there isn't any. The land is legally for a Jewish state.
When you tak about international legality than the UN-league of nations and mandates are the law. You may not like it but that is the reality.
There is plenty of evidence that many of the landowners of Palestine sold land to Jews from Europe. You are obviously in denial blinded by your hate for Israel.
i do not deny that some arabs sold the land to the jews but not all of Palestine was sold the only thing i agree that the winner takes the spoils of war but do not preach to me the bible which i consider as a history book some true and some fiction.
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lambroni ardziv wrote:
<quoted text>i do not deny that some arabs sold the land to the jews but not all of Palestine was sold the only thing i agree that the winner takes the spoils of war but do not preach to me the bible which i consider as a history book some true and some fiction.
Most of WESTERN PALESTINE was not owned by individuals but by the Ottoman Empire who gave it up in the Treaty of Servaise in the 1920's. The League of Nations mandate for Palestine passed public land on to a Jewish state.
YOUR FIRST MISTAKE IS IGNORING THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF PALESTINE WAS BROKEN OFF FROM THE MANDATE ALMOST BEFORE IT WAS SIGNED AND TRANS-JORDAN WAS CREATED.
When did i ever preach the bible i am an Atheist and agree with your opinion on the bible.

you made a claim on Palestinian ownership of the land so give some evidence or shut up already.
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"Israel" is only occupied by recent FOREIGN Ashkenazi/Khazarian, Brooklynite Invaders with NO recient connection to the Land
You still have not given ONE international legal document giving the rights of the land to a Palestinian nation. Since you can't your claim that the land is occupied is a lie.
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Israel should never stop building new settlements. Arabs can't and will not do anything about it. Arabs are talk only. By the way right now they're busy killing each other in Syria.
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You still have not given ONE international legal document giving the rights of the land to a Palestinian nation. Since you can't your claim that the land is occupied is a lie.
You're avoiding my point made earlier and employing the same Weasel Words inherent in Hasbasraese and Ziono-Mythology.

"Palestinians" Neo Canaanites already had possession of the land and subsequent Takings are inherently illegal by all International Standards; hence, Israel's criminal standing under International Law

You are implying that because there are no Postcards or Stamps that say "Welcome to Sunny Palestine" that Native Residents don't have a right to their Native land.

The burden is on the Invader and criminal Occupier. I don't have receipts for everything I own but, legally, my possessions are still mine.

The following proves the illegality of the Zionist Invasion/Occupation

"Here’s how Lord Balfour, Foreign Minister of England, of the famed “Balfour Letter”(Declaration) described this fact in 1919.
 “In Palestine, we do not even propose to consult the inhabitants of the country and (Zionism’s) immediate needs and hopes for the future are much more important than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who presently inhabit Palestine”.

The French didn't agree to be invaded by Germany; does the de facto Occupation, then become "Legal"

Please stop avoiding the Fact that Israel is, under International Law, regarded as a criminal occupier without a Constitution establishing fixed boundaries.

The fact remains that Peace is impossible until Israel adheres to UN Resolutions #181,#242.#338 etc.

Obviosly, Israel does not want peace.

PS Please note that I haven't regarded you as a Paid, Full Time & Scripted Hasbarat while Israel clearly employs tens of thousands of them who use the same Weasel Words/Terms.
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Gray wrote:
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You're avoiding my point made earlier and employing the same Weasel Words inherent in Hasbasraese and Ziono-Mythology.
"Palestinians" Neo Canaanites already had possession of the land and subsequent Takings are inherently illegal by all International Standards; hence, Israel's criminal standing under International Law.....
The following proves the illegality of the Zionist Invasion/Occupation
"Here’s how Lord Balfour, Foreign Minister of England, of the famed “Balfour Letter”(Declaration) described this fact in 1919.
 “In Palestine, we do not even propose to consult the inhabitants of the country and (Zionism’s) immediate needs and hopes for the future are much more important than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who presently inhabit Palestine”.
The French didn't agree to be invaded by Germany; does the de facto Occupation, then become "Legal"
Please stop avoiding the Fact that Israel is, under International Law, regarded as a criminal occupier without a Constitution establishing fixed boundaries.
The fact remains that Peace is impossible until Israel adheres to UN Resolutions #181,#242.#338 etc.
Obviosly, Israel does not want peace.
PS Please note that I haven't regarded you as a Paid, Full Time & Scripted Hasbarat while Israel clearly employs tens of thousands of them who use the same Weasel Words/Terms.
Speaking of avoiding points you claim international law but can't give me one legally binding document backing up your claim??
You have repeated the resolutions which i have already explained to you in depth. AGAIN YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN FACT OR REALITY AND EVEN WHEN SHOWN THE TRUTH YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT AND CONTINUE WITH YOUR BS POSTS.

I am not implying anything but you seem to have no answer to my questions EVER.
What do you not understand about land ownership?? LETS TRY AGAIN.
The majority of W.Palestine was controlled by the Ottoman Empire no private person owned the majority of the land. When the Ottomans gave up their claim and passed it onto the league of nations in the 1920's the Mandate for Palestine agreed upon by 52 nations in the San Remo conference in 1920 became the legal document for the land.
Please give me any evidence its illegal if not stop saying that.

WOW do you have a split personality??? The Arabs on the land did not own the land they lived on nor all the land surrounding it. They rented the land from wealthy landowners who lived in Damascus and Cairo. MOST OF THE LAND WAS NOT OWNED BY ANYONE.

The quote you have posted doesn't exist as usual you are making things up out of thin air.

lets try again. You wrote:-
"The fact remains that Peace is impossible until Israel adheres to UN Resolutions #181,#242.#338 etc.
Obviosly, Israel does not want peace."

do you understand the meaning of a fact??
Res 181 is a GA res so has no legal basis and is pure opinion.
res 242 makes no mention of a Palestinian people or state nor for Israel to leave all the land.
Res 338 just reaffirms res 242.
So your statement makes no sense when you take into account the above which i got from the UN website.
Not sure why Israel OBVIOUSLY doesn't want peace? It has been the Arabs who refuse to make peace unless Israel pulls back to the armistice lines which it has no legal necessity to do and allow millions of Palestinians into Israel as citizens on-top of a Palestinian state. Even after this there is no guarantee of Jews being safe in this new majority Arab state once called Israel. Looks more like the only way for peace is the destruction of Israel. According to you and the Arab Leagues nonsense.

p.s. so sweet of you to not see me as a paid hasbarat when i wasn't in the first place. I have worked in the field for years and never met one of these so called hasbarats nor have i been able to get paid for this kind of activity. Although at the beginning of your post you imply i am a hasbarat or reading the same book as them.
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Nasty, nasty, nasty!

Hasbarats do eventually show their colors when debunked, even nicely debunked

Lets try this:

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know
the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography
books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are
not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place
of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the
place of Tal al- Shuman.

There is not a single place built in this country that
did not have a former Arab population." -- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The
Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.


The establishment of Israel is illegal, even UN never gave Israel any legacy;

1)The United Nations was not competent under Internaional Law to partition or otherwise dispose of the territory of Palestine against the wishes of the clear majority of its inhabitants.

2)The Partition plan of Palestine was adopted by the General Assembly, not the Security Council.

Resolution of the General Assembly have the force of recommendations to member states of the Unites Nations but do not (unlike those of the Security Council) have any mandatory force.

Therefore, the UN General Assembly vote to accept the recommendations of UNSCOP to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab state did not mean that one or another state was being created over the objection of one of the parties.

The UN General Asssembly vote was not an override of the Arab rejection.

How many quotes do you want from Zionist Terrorist gangs admitting that they stole Arab land

The major reason why Arabs rejected the partition resolution was on the ground of fairness. It is proposed to give the minority an exclusive right to the majority of the land.

In 1947, there were more than 1,237,332 Arabs and 608,225 Jews in Palestine.

Thought Jewish people made up less than 33% of total population of Palestine and own only 6,59% of the land, UNGA resolution 181 suggested allocating 54% of Palestine to the proposed Jewish state.

That plan was set to kick out 75% of Palestinian population from the part dedicated to an alien foreign minority who were never native to the land but immigrants from all over the world. Palestinians back then owned and operated 93% of Palestinian lands.
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Please note "occupied":

"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them
to." -- Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

AND....."drive them out" ....of where?

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they
can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will
stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them." -- Ariel Sharon, Israeli
Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France
Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

'EVERYTHING WE TAKE"!

How many MORE Zionist quotes do you want from Zionist Terrorist gangs admitting that they stole Arab land?

Do you have proof that everything in your house is yours?

Don't go away mad......

Just go away!
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Gray wrote:
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"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know
the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography
books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are
not there either. population." -- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The
Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.
The establishment of Israel is illegal, even UN never gave Israel any legacy;
1)The United Nations was not competent under Internaional Law to partition or otherwise dispose of the territory of Palestine against the wishes of the clear majority of its inhabitants.
2)The Partition plan of Palestine was adopted by the General Assembly, not the Security Council.
Resolution of the General Assembly have the force of recommendations to member states of the Unites Nations but do not (unlike those of the Security Council) have any mandatory force.
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Thought Jewish people made up less than 33% of total population of Palestine and own only 6,59% of the land, UNGA resolution 181 suggested allocating 54% of Palestine to the proposed Jewish state....
Palestinians back then owned and operated 93% of Palestinian lands.
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Please note "occupied":
"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them
to." -- Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.
AND....."drive them out" ....of where?
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they
can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will
stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them." -- Ariel Sharon, Israeli
Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France
Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
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THE REAL QUOTE YOU MISSED PART.
In considerable areas of the country we bought the lands from the Arabs.....
The QUOTE is from an address at the Technion in April of 1969

There is not one place built in Israel that did not have a former Arab population - some time in history. And there is not one place that did not have a former Jewish population either whats your point.

1) It was the League of Nations which made the Mandate. Mandate according to Article 80 of the UN charter can't be changed in any way you claim.
2)That is what i said the UN GA had no legal right to change the mandate which gave the land for a Jewish state.

What REAL quotes have you given the one above was misrepresented and you missed out an important part showing how your sources intentionally delete parts of quotes to suit your agenda.

Again you ignore the reality. Trans-Jordan which was around 80% of Mandate Palestine was broken away from the Jewish state almost immediately in 1920's to create a Palestinian one. Although at the time they were called Arabs not Palestinians.

YOU CONTINUOUSLY MISREPRESENT WESTERN PALESTINE AS THE WHOLE OF PALESTINE WHEN IT IS ONLY AROUND 20%. So the Jews were offered 54% of 20%.

MORE LIES. GIVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT PALESTINE ARABS OWNED 93% OF THE LAND? The Palestine Arabs owned around the same % as the Jews at that time. The rest was meant according to the Mandate for Palestine for Jewish settlement.
Golda Meir Quote which you didn't even post is easily answered if she ever said it. Since the land never belonged to any nation (Jordan illegally occupied it) there was noone to return it to.
as for Ariel Sharons quote can you verify it?? Even if its true so what. Look at what the Palestinians are doing instead of building numerous cities in the parts of the Wb which they control they are trying to build them ontop of Israel towns. If as i have explained Israel has the rights to the land than there is nothing wrong with building on it. He never claimed he was building ontop of Arab cities. So where is this admission of stolen Arab land???
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THE REAL QUOTE YOU MISSED PART.
In considerable areas of the country we bought the lands from the Arabs.....
The QUOTE is from an address at the Technion in April of 1969
There is not one place built in Israel that did not have a former Arab population - some time in history. And there is not one place that did not have a former Jewish population either whats your point.
1) It was the League of Nations which made the Mandate. Mandate according to Article 80 of the UN charter can't be changed in any way you claim.
2)That is what i said the UN GA had no legal right to change the mandate which gave the land for a Jewish state.
What REAL quotes have you given the one above was misrepresented and you missed out an important part showing how your sources intentionally delete parts of quotes to suit your agenda.
Again you ignore the reality. Trans-Jordan which was around 80% of Mandate Palestine was broken away from the Jewish state almost immediately in 1920's to create a Palestinian one. Although at the time they were called Arabs not Palestinians.
YOU CONTINUOUSLY MISREPRESENT WESTERN PALESTINE AS THE WHOLE OF PALESTINE WHEN IT IS ONLY AROUND 20%. So the Jews were offered 54% of 20%.
MORE LIES. GIVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT PALESTINE ARABS OWNED 93% OF THE LAND? The Palestine Arabs owned around the same % as the Jews at that time. The rest was meant according to the Mandate for Palestine for Jewish settlement.
Golda Meir Quote which you didn't even post is easily answered if she ever said it. Since the land never belonged to any nation (Jordan illegally occupied it) there was noone to return it to.
as for Ariel Sharons quote can you verify it?? Even if its true so what. Look at what the Palestinians are doing instead of building numerous cities in the parts of the Wb which they control they are trying to build them ontop of Israel towns. If as i have explained Israel has the rights to the land than there is nothing wrong with building on it. He never claimed he was building ontop of Arab cities. So where is this admission of stolen Arab land???
You keep ignoring the fact that FOREIGN JEWS/ZIONISTS CAME TO INVADE AND OCCUPY

I repeat FOREIGN JEWS/ZIONISTS CAME FROM AFAR AND TOOK INHABITED LAND

"The British Mandatory Census and Survey of Palestine" establishes that fact, in detail.

The Jewish population doubled from 1922 - 1931

"The Survey...." even details who many bushels of what came from which region.

PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, COPTS WERE THERE AND WORKING THE LAND OVER 1,000 YEARS BEFORE THE GIANT INFLUX OF FOREIGN JEWS ZIONISTS.

It doesn't matter to a Native Culture what slippery, FOREIGN Machinations were employed to expel and exterminate NATIVE RESIDENTS.

No matter what sort of Hasbaraesque Weasel Words you employ, NON-JEWS WERE THERE AND FLOURISHING FIRST!

PLEASE Look at "The British Mandatory Census and Survey of Palestine" and read "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"

The British promised the Arabs Palestine if they would help fight the Ottomans which they did.

Blame the mess on the British and the British Zionists who manipulated the Colonial Power of Britain not the hapless Palestinians who suddenly found the place swarming with FOREIGN ZIONIST JEWS.:

Here’s how Lord Balfour, Foreign Minister of England, of the famed “Balfour Letter”(Declaration) described this fact in 1919.
 “In Palestine, we do not even propose to consult the inhabitants of the country and (Zionism’s) immediate needs and hopes for the future are much more important than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who presently inhabit Palestine”.

You continue to ignore the DNA Study I keep mentioning.

The quotes I cite are valid, factual and in context; if they contradict you don't blame me.....
Look them up yourself as no one else has had a problem with any of them.
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Do you admit that Nazis and Zionists worked together to steal Palestine in order to oppose the British?

“THE NAZI ZIONIST PACT”
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/Zionist_no...
“IT HAS BEEN LONG FORGOTTEN THAT THE ONLY TWO FLAGS TO FLY IN THE THIRD REICH WERE THE SWASTIKA AND THE BLUE-AND-WHITE ZIONIST BANNER”
CONTINUED

“Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis”
http://www.wrmea.com/jews_for_justice/holocau...
EXCERPT "As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun(NMO)...

[The proposal stated:]'The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian Pd bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East...

The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany's side'...
' " CONTINUED

“THE NAZI ZIONIST PACT”
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/Zionist_no...
“THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST”
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/holocaust-zion...

EXCERPT “The Ashkenazi Jews, who migrated to Israel from Germany, while sympathetic to Communism and support it, tend to favour the practises of Nazi-style fascism.

During World War II in Germany these elite Zionist Ashkenazi Jews worked closely with Hitler’s Gestapo in persecuting the lower class German Jews and delivering them to concentration camps.

Now living in Israel, these elite Zionist Jews, who were well trained in Nazi-style fascism and favour it, have imposed many facets of fascism on Israel.”CONTINUED
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“Nazi Support of Zionism”
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitis...

EXCERPT “Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.

Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.

During the 1930's, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.

As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized "Kibbutz" training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of "Israel".

The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism.

Through this agreement, Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930's to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals”
CONTINUED.
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Settle. Hahaha. Like settling somewhere, and also having a settlement about a problem? hahaha. I can't believe how governments always use worlds to take common people like fools. Or maybe most common people are fools. I'm not sure of that part..!
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Gray wrote:
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You keep ignoring the fact that FOREIGN JEWS/ZIONISTS CAME TO INVADE AND OCCUPY
I repeat FOREIGN JEWS/ZIONISTS CAME FROM AFAR AND TOOK INHABITED LAND
"The British Mandatory Census and Survey of Palestine" establishes that fact, in detail.
The Jewish population doubled from 1922 - 1931
"The Survey...." even details who many bushels of what came from which region.
PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, COPTS WERE THERE AND WORKING THE LAND OVER 1,000 YEARS BEFORE THE GIANT INFLUX OF FOREIGN JEWS ZIONISTS.
It doesn't matter to a Native Culture what slippery, FOREIGN Machinations were employed to expel and exterminate NATIVE RESIDENTS.
No matter what sort of Hasbaraesque Weasel Words you employ, NON-JEWS WERE THERE AND FLOURISHING FIRST!
PLEASE Look at "The British Mandatory Census and Survey of Palestine" and read "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"
The British promised the Arabs Palestine if they would help fight the Ottomans which they did.
Blame the mess on the British and the British Zionists who manipulated the Colonial Power of Britain not the hapless Palestinians who suddenly found the place swarming with FOREIGN ZIONIST JEWS.:
Here’s how Lord Balfour, Foreign Minister of England, of the famed “Balfour Letter”(Declaration) described this fact in 1919.
 “In Palestine, we do not even propose to consult the inhabitants of the country and (Zionism’s) immediate needs and hopes for the future are much more important than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who presently inhabit Palestine”.
You continue to ignore the DNA Study I keep mentioning.
The quotes I cite are valid, factual and in context; if they contradict you don't blame me.....
Look them up yourself as no one else has had a problem with any of them.
I have conceded to you a while ago that it can be considered even very unfair but legally its another matter.
Why do you start from the 1900's check the few hundred years before and population movements and growth. For example in 1840's Jerusalem was only the old city and the majority religion was Jewish.

You continuously claim that all the Arabs of the land have been here for a thousand years. While they may have resided in the region for that long they did not all reside in Western Palestine but you seem to consider that as a given.
Also there are around 100,000 Arabs/Bedouins who were Jews until a couple of centuries ago. They still follow the customs and often keep within their tribe. ie they are still Jews according to the birth laws.

I constantly make it clear that I blame the Brits and French for slightly different reasons to you. Firstly the mandate included S.Syria and S.Lebanon. Jordan was ceded which should have been the Arab state in Palestine.
But if you look at the region it was not split up logically as though they intended to divide the different peoples and cause chaos for decades.
It was the League of Nations not the Brits who created the Mandate, Balfour declaration has no legal significance without it.

Brits didn't include Palestine in the promise only the rest of the region.
MacMahon explained:
I feel it my duty to state, and I do so definitely and emphatically, that it was not intended by me in giving this pledge to King Hussein to include Palestine in the area in which Arab independence was promised. I also had every reason to believe at the time that the fact that Palestine was not included in my pledge was well understood by King Hussein.

700,000 Arabs mentions by Balfour included those in E.Palestine/Jordan no?

I don't really care about the racial significance of Jews as i focus on the legal aspects since people keep on telling me Israel is illegal. I do know that my family traces back through Spain not Kazharia. While many Ashkenazi Jews may be partly descended from other groups that was a long time ago.
Many people here have had a problem with the DNA studies and many studies dispute your assertions.

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