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From wiki:

Bart D. Ehrman (born 5 October 1955) is an American New Testament scholar, currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Ehrman is a leading New Testament scholar, having written and edited over twenty-five books, including three college textbooks. He has also achieved acclaim at the popular level, authoring four New York Times bestsellers: Misquoting Jesus, Jesus, Interrupted, God's Problem, and Forged. Ehrman's work focuses on the New Testament, New Testament textual criticism, the Historical Jesus, and early Christianity.

Ehrman grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, and attended Lawrence High School, where he was on the state champion debate team in 1973. He began studying the Bible and its original languages at the Moody Bible Institute and is a 1978 graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois. He received his PhD and M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he studied under Bruce Metzger. He received magna cum laude for both his BA in 1978 and PhD in 1985.

Ehrman became an Evangelical Christian as a teen. In his books, he recounts his youthful enthusiasm as a born-again, fundamentalist Christian, certain that God had inspired the wording of the Bible and protected its texts from all error.[4] His desire to understand the original words of the Bible led him to the study of ancient languages and to textual criticism. During his graduate studies, however, he became convinced that there are contradictions and discrepancies in the biblical manuscripts that could not be harmonized or reconciled. He remained a liberal Christian for fifteen years but later became an agnostic after struggling with the philosophical problems of evil and suffering.
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Eric wrote:
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That is not what Joel said. Joel said he stopped being a Jew and became a Christian. Joel understands. If you have a problem, talk to Joel. Your rant above proves my point.
HughBe---Once again, I say. The man changed his RELIGION from Judaism a RELIGION to Christianity another RELIGION.

He cannot change his RACE whatever that maybe.
He cannot change who his ancestors were.

Eric---Joel said he stopped being a Jew and became a Christian. Joel understands.

HughBe--- Joel is NOT a flocking IDIOT.

Joel KNOWS that one cannot change one's BIOLOGY.

Joel KNOWS that one cannot change one's PARENTS.

Joel KNOWS that one cannot change one's GRANDPARENTS.

Joel KNOWS that one cannot change one's FOREFATHERS.

Joel KNOWS that one cannot change one's GENES.

Joel KNOWS that one cannot change the fact that Israel and his seed Israelites predated the giving of the law to Moses by approximately 400 years. This tells Joel that his IDENTITY as a Jew is INDEPENDENT of ALL RELIGIONS.

Joel KNOWS that one should ALWAYS obey God over men or your god-men who are called rabbis. These gods of Judaism have fabricated their own laws so that BLIND sheep like YOU will esteem them above your Creator but you are too DUMB to even realize it.

Joel knows ALL of these things. I doubt that you know even ONE of them.

Later.
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Eric wrote:
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That is not what Joel said. Joel said he stopped being a Jew and became a Christian. Joel understands. If you have a problem, talk to Joel. Your rant above proves my point.
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Joel---Dr Henry Makow has turned to Christianity after quitting Judaism - a case of dumping one evil and embracing another. LOL.

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JOEL THUMBS UP---Dr Henry Makow has turned to Christianity after quitting Judaism - a case of dumping one evil and embracing another. LOL.

ERIC----pssst, don't tell Hugh. Hugh will force him to remain a Jew.

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HughBe---The man changed his RELIGION from Judaism a RELIGION to Christianity another RELIGION.
He cannot change his RACE whatever that maybe.
He cannot change who his ancestors were.

Eric---That is NOT what Joel said. Joel said he stopped being a Jew and became a Christian.

HughBe--- Eric's BLATANT LIE is typical of him and his cult members. Joel spoke about RELIGION i.e. JUDAISM. See above.
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Joel---Dr Henry Makow has turned to Christianity after quitting Judaism - a case of dumping one evil and embracing another. LOL.
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JOEL THUMBS UP---Dr Henry Makow has turned to Christianity after quitting Judaism - a case of dumping one evil and embracing another. LOL.
ERIC----pssst, don't tell Hugh. Hugh will force him to remain a Jew.
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HughBe---The man changed his RELIGION from Judaism a RELIGION to Christianity another RELIGION.
He cannot change his RACE whatever that maybe.
He cannot change who his ancestors were.
Eric---That is NOT what Joel said. Joel said he stopped being a Jew and became a Christian.
HughBe--- Eric's BLATANT LIE is typical of him and his cult members. Joel spoke about RELIGION i.e. JUDAISM. See above.
Hugh, why did you dishonestly fail to post this one?

"JOEL THUMBS UP

#58705 Yesterday

Dr Henry Makow is an ex-Jew."

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and the jihad by hughbe continues....
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Hugh if you have a problem with Joel saying that some is "AN EX-JEW", take it up with Joel.

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This much I shall say, there are a number of utterances from rabbis over the past 10 years that are full of HATE of others.
Those Rabbis preaching hatred and murder of the goyim (and of anyone opposed to their plan of global domination that they share in common with Free Masons) were/are most likely the Sabbatean Frankist types.

Ordinary Rabbis preach G-d, family values, Torah (Chukim, Edot, Mishpatim and so on), provide guidance to Jews on typical Jewish questions related to faith and life and make no mention of global domination, clash of civilizations or of non-Jews.

So, please refrain from issuing ill-informed blanket statements of condemnation.



OK, Mon?

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My post focused on the fact that "white lotion" is all natural. Indulgence was not under consideration, at that time.
I make a statement in jest - like the one on Newton's 4th law (a hand in motion secretes a white lotion)- and then you keep harping on that showing your sexual perversion.

Why can't you simply let go of the issue when I say and said so in the past that masturbation is not my thing though it may be the way most men relax or seek release aside from sexual intercourse.

Just respect my statement and know that I'm not one of the common herd who plays with himself or seeks out sexual partners.

Ok, Mon?

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Joel---Frijoles, Eric, Rick and other scum are riff raff who will meet a bad end if they're not careful of their karma and they will also suffer from irregular vibrational pulls in the disembodied state after death.

Hugh--- The first two certainly are deceptive and a bit short on integrity.
Be happy that you're like them.

Do good and do even better in thought, word and deed and do break free of religious fanaticism and scriptural dogma - remember, "there are many more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are contained in your philosophy!".

So, grow up and expand your horizons.

As for those posters who're of the distorted kind (Frijoles, Eric, etc and especially Frijoles), well, I will not be surprised if disaster strikes them sooner or later given their bad karma and degraded character....

Take care, Mon.

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Sep 24, 2013
 
TYPO

Be happy that you're NOT like them.

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Joel---Best Regards, Brother.

Hugh--- Does this mean that we are now "VIBRATORY" brothers? Sounds, exciting to me.:D
We should vibrate more on a common frequency of good karma, good character, self-control, love for justice, burning desire to know the truth firsthand through direct experiences, secularism and seek to rise above pettiness and parochialism.

Good, better, best;

Never let it rest;

Until your good is better;

And your better is best!

You're doing good in certain critical departments, so, do better and then aim for best, Mon.

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Dearest Joel, I once had an interest in such matters.
You had interest in the science of detachment, transcendence and transformation? LOL.

Then, by now, you should have been a great philosopher or in the practical sense, a great Yogi.

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Ok, Hugh, I am going back to bed as the descent of the Higher Force in me is quite strong and so I need to open up and assimilate. Later. Bye.

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Those Rabbis preaching hatred and murder of the goyim (and of anyone opposed to their plan of global domination that they share in common with Free Masons) were/are most likely the Sabbatean Frankist types.
Ordinary Rabbis preach G-d, family values, Torah (Chukim, Edot, Mishpatim and so on), provide guidance to Jews on typical Jewish questions related to faith and life and make no mention of global domination, clash of civilizations or of non-Jews.
So, please refrain from issuing ill-informed blanket statements of condemnation.
OK, Mon?
The "Sabbatean Frankists" (to use your term) were a lot of things, but global imperialists they definitely were not. They were inward focused and self-destructive, not out-wordly.

The idea of global domination comes from the outside, not the inside. Google the history of the "Protocols of the elders of zion" sometime.

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Hugh if you have a problem with Joel saying that some is "AN EX-JEW", take it up with Joel.
For the 100 millionith time, I find it bizarre anyone would care that anyone else says someone is ex-something, so much so as to waste multiple lines on a post. Over and over again.

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The "Sabbatean Frankists" (to use your term) were a lot of things, but global imperialists they definitely were not. They were inward focused and self-destructive, not out-wordly.

The idea of global domination comes from the outside, not the inside. Google the history of the "Protocols of the elders of zion" sometime.
You know very little, fool.

I repeat, watch your karma - you're heading for disaster in relationships, health and business.

Learn to be a better human being, fast!

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Sep 24, 2013
 
The Higher Force is descending with intensity but I can't rest in bed and am trying to assimilate it while sitting/typing...
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Eric wrote:
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Hugh, why did you dishonestly fail to post this one?
"JOEL THUMBS UP
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Dr Henry Makow is an ex-Jew."
I did NOT see that post. I am working with what I saw and not with what I have not seen.
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Eric wrote:
Hugh if you have a problem with Joel saying that some is "AN EX-JEW", take it up with Joel.
Again, Joel is NOT an ASS and a deceiver like you.
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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Those Rabbis preaching hatred and murder of the goyim (and of anyone opposed to their plan of global domination that they share in common with Free Masons) were/are most likely the Sabbatean Frankist types.
Ordinary Rabbis preach G-d, family values, Torah (Chukim, Edot, Mishpatim and so on), provide guidance to Jews on typical Jewish questions related to faith and life and make no mention of global domination, clash of civilizations or of non-Jews.
So, please refrain from issuing ill-informed blanket statements of condemnation.
OK, Mon?
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