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Greater khorasan warrior

Hertford, UK

#997 Jun 22, 2013
Vasiliy Terkin wrote:
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Since when UK is an islamic country?
Why don`t you go and live in your shitty Afganistan?
You may take your mother with you as well.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in Britain, more than 100 Brits convert to Islam everyday.
I'm staying right here, why should I or my mother go anywhere!?
Afghanistan is not shitty, it became shitty when russkies and NATO troops invaded!
If it's so shitty why did russkies invade it then!?
Greater khorasan warrior

Hertford, UK

#998 Jun 22, 2013
hmphh wrote:
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Then the both of you should be committed.
We are!
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#999 Jun 22, 2013
Shem wrote:
If the West left Islamic world alone - there would be no Islamic Extremism. Extremism is a response to western invasion. You could say that Vietkong fighting the Americans were extremist but they were in no way Muslim... Americans receive the same response everywhere they invade.
Islam is no bigger threat than Christianity. The difference is though that Christianity reformed many times through ages - the renaissance saw the biggest change in social perception of God and religion, then later it changed during the age of enlightenment where most Christians became de-facto secular or agnostic. I believe perhaps Islam needs its own reform, but they will never let the West dictate in which direction that process goes. Extremism is not the way to go but I think it's best to leave the muslims decide the fate of Islam on their own. Violence doesn't solve anything.
Oh really? What abot islamic extremism in western Europe itself? Do you think the west invaded islamic UK, France and Germany either? Islamic extremists talk about world`s khalifat. That means they want all the world to become islamic. The west does not try to destroy islam as a religoin. All the west wants is that islamic countries would respect rights of none muslims and women`s rights. Christianity is the most opressed religion in the world. and in is opressed in islamic countries only. Muslims are not opressed in christian countries just because they are muslims. No one sentences to death converts from christianity into islam in the west, while coverts from islam are often sentenced to death in islamic countries, acordingly sharia law.
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1000 Jun 22, 2013
Greater khorasan warrior wrote:
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Islam is the fastest growing religion in Britain, more than 100 Brits convert to Islam everyday.
I'm staying right here, why should I or my mother go anywhere!?
Afghanistan is not shitty, it became shitty when russkies and NATO troops invaded!
If it's so shitty why did russkies invade it then!?
Afganistan was better under Russians when it ever was before or after that. This is simply the fact. Russians were ones which tried to civilize native barbarians and did a good job in that. It would be really better for people of Afganistan if USSR would have won.

Why should you go? Why do you say Cromwell should go to Syria, which was not shitty until the west and Al Quada made this civil war? If anyhing, Syria is a way more better than Afganistan, which is cosidered to be one of the worst countries in the world to live in.

Islam is not a true British thing. British people are christian ones and should remain such. If you like islam so much, Afganistan is the place for you. If islam will prevail in UK, it will be as shitty as Afganistan, because islam means poverty and war. Even here in Russia the poorest regions of country are islamic republics of Caucasis and terrorism is thriving there. Take a look at ex Soviet republics in Asia! They are stil a way better than neibghoring Afganistan, yet they have no jobs there and go to Russia to find a job. It was not so when they were a part of Russia. In that time there were so many jobs that Russians from European part of the country moved there!
Islam = poverty.
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1001 Jun 22, 2013
Vasiliy Terkin wrote:
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Oh really? What abot islamic extremism in western Europe itself? Do you think the west invaded islamic UK, France and Germany either? Islamic extremists talk about world`s khalifat. That means they want all the world to become islamic. The west does not try to destroy islam as a religoin. All the west wants is that islamic countries would respect rights of none muslims and women`s rights. Christianity is the most opressed religion in the world. and in is opressed in islamic countries only. Muslims are not opressed in christian countries just because they are muslims. No one sentences to death converts from christianity into islam in the west, while coverts from islam are often sentenced to death in islamic countries, acordingly sharia law.
The problems in UK, France and Germany for the most part are none of my business :) Since there's no armed resistance yet from local population I assume the problem is not as big as some people are trying to paint it.

I'm aware that the Sharia-law extremist elements exist, personally I don't think they could ever control even half of the Islamic world itself, let alone Western Europe... Have faith in humanity, Sharia Law will never claim a global victory, the same way as the West will never control the Islamic world. Your mistake perhaps is that you believe that Muslims are somehow different, but they are exactly the same as you and me. Even if they achieve some temporary victory, sooner or later will be faced with their own personal objections, the same you are raising here.
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1002 Jun 22, 2013
I grew up in a region in Russia where there was 40% Christian and 40% Muslim, but like I never heard of the meaning of the word "violence". I am of mostly East Slavic Christian background all the way back as far as I know. I grew up with many Muslims as my friends, I mean I know they are different, but I'm not used to perceive them as a threat - not from the world where I grew up.

My brother who is same blood as me - basically Slavic Christian, had an operation once and needed blood transfusion - I can name you by name all the Muslims who showed up to help and donated their blood. This is what I know, if you know something different it's OK, but I can only share what I know :)
Avenger

Hamilton, Canada

#1003 Jun 22, 2013
Shem wrote:
I grew up in a region in Russia where there was 40% Christian and 40% Muslim, but like I never heard of the meaning of the word "violence". I am of mostly East Slavic Christian background all the way back as far as I know. I grew up with many Muslims as my friends, I mean I know they are different, but I'm not used to perceive them as a threat - not from the world where I grew up.
My brother who is same blood as me - basically Slavic Christian, had an operation once and needed blood transfusion - I can name you by name all the Muslims who showed up to help and donated their blood. This is what I know, if you know something different it's OK, but I can only share what I know :)
The anti-Canadian fanatic is a Ruskie big surprise.
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1004 Jun 22, 2013
Shem wrote:
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The problems in UK, France and Germany for the most part are none of my business :) Since there's no armed resistance yet from local population I assume the problem is not as big as some people are trying to paint it.
I'm aware that the Sharia-law extremist elements exist, personally I don't think they could ever control even half of the Islamic world itself, let alone Western Europe... Have faith in humanity, Sharia Law will never claim a global victory, the same way as the West will never control the Islamic world. Your mistake perhaps is that you believe that Muslims are somehow different, but they are exactly the same as you and me. Even if they achieve some temporary victory, sooner or later will be faced with their own personal objections, the same you are raising here.
They don`t encounter with resistence from native European peoples just because these people are civlized. That doesn`t mean they are happy with the invasion of islamic hordes in their countries and with their behavior. As for Russia you can see a lot of resistence in many regions. For example Kondopoga or riot on Maneznaya square in Moscow city. No one is happy with muslims in Europe. Muslims make troubles in Europe. They are agressive and uncivilized people. They should keep out of Europe and the civilized secular world with their religion. If they come to civilized countries, they should respect the law which says all people have equal rights including women and all people can choose what religion to practice or don`t practice any. as long as muslims are agree with it, I`m ok with them.
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1005 Jun 22, 2013
Avenger wrote:
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The anti-Canadian fanatic is a Ruskie big surprise.
What is there in Cadada anyways to anti Canadian?

Except that Canadian prime minister which thinks that Canada is something in this world.
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1006 Jun 22, 2013
Avenger wrote:
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The anti-Canadian fanatic is a Ruskie big surprise.
Don't flatter yourself, you are not important enough for anyone to be anti-you fanatic :)
Cirockone chuckie

Brooklyn, NY

#1007 Jun 22, 2013
Who really running America the ex president who are in Congress obama was a black token so they could silence Americans mc cain and kerry are the ones really telling what goes and what doesnt following where bush left off bankruptcy of the American tax dollars in iraq with spent all that money for what wmd on saddam bunch of lies and we trying the same in syria this time we will finish with a zillion of deficit thanks to this fools
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1008 Jun 22, 2013
Vasiliy Terkin wrote:
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They don`t encounter with resistence from native European peoples just because these people are civlized. That doesn`t mean they are happy with the invasion of islamic hordes in their countries and with their behavior. As for Russia you can see a lot of resistence in many regions. For example Kondopoga or riot on Maneznaya square in Moscow city. No one is happy with muslims in Europe. Muslims make troubles in Europe. They are agressive and uncivilized people. They should keep out of Europe and the civilized secular world with their religion. If they come to civilized countries, they should respect the law which says all people have equal rights including women and all people can choose what religion to practice or don`t practice any. as long as muslims are agree with it, I`m ok with them.
I hear about these problems all the time. I just hope that people don't get carried away with all of this, because you're forgetting about Muslims like tatars and bashkirs, and probably other who are really well adjusted with the Russians and have been for centuries. I'm yet to meet a Tatar whom I would perceive as "uncivilized" :)
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1009 Jun 22, 2013
Shem wrote:
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I hear about these problems all the time. I just hope that people don't get carried away with all of this, because you're forgetting about Muslims like tatars and bashkirs, and probably other who are really well adjusted with the Russians and have been for centuries. I'm yet to meet a Tatar whom I would perceive as "uncivilized" :)
If anything, islam as it is, is an uncivilized religion.
I mean islam descreminates women and religious minorities.
It`s philosophy is agressive. It supports violent converting into islam and says that none muslims should pay extra taxes in islamic countries. Such islamic countries as SA Iran and others have sharia law which says that converting from islam into other religion is felony liable to death sentence. Ordinary muslims are can be good people, however and this big however, their islamic philosophy is disgusting. Islam is the last religion I`d like to convert.
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1010 Jun 22, 2013
Shem wrote:
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I hear about these problems all the time. I just hope that people don't get carried away with all of this, because you're forgetting about Muslims like tatars and bashkirs, and probably other who are really well adjusted with the Russians and have been for centuries. I'm yet to meet a Tatar whom I would perceive as "uncivilized" :)
What about Chechens, Dagestanians and others from Northern Caucasis?
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1011 Jun 22, 2013
You know since Cain killed Abel, or how that story goes, it was obvious we'll never live in perfect world - many problems we'll never rid ourselves of... But there are certain examples in Russia of ethnic and religious co-existence which in my opinion can serve as a global example for others. Globalization started 1000 years ago in reality. In many places in Russia in my opinion you can find traces of success of merging religions and civilizations. It should be studied and analyzed and hopefully some good can be extracted from it.

In many places I see some fake attempts at bringing the world together- London , Paris, Berlin - they are all failures. It doesn't have to be Russia's fate, Russia has been involved in process of bringing civilizations together for over 1000 years, in my opinion it's already a success :)
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1012 Jun 22, 2013
Vasiliy Terkin wrote:
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What about Chechens, Dagestanians and others from Northern Caucasis?
Well, I hear a lot of criticism about them. But you know ever since we adopted them - they are our responsibility whether we like it or not :)
Give it time. Muslims from Caucasus fall more or less under the same stereotype as all people of Caucasus, so I don't think religion is the key factor there :)
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1013 Jun 22, 2013
I don`t want to merge with islamic civilization.
I want it to be away from me.
Vasiliy Terkin

Podolsk, Russia

#1014 Jun 22, 2013
Shem wrote:
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Well, I hear a lot of criticism about them. But you know ever since we adopted them - they are our responsibility whether we like it or not :)
Give it time. Muslims from Caucasus fall more or less under the same stereotype as all people of Caucasus, so I don't think religion is the key factor there :)
So you think people hate them just because of the stereotype?
Oliver Cromwell

Accrington, UK

#1015 Jun 22, 2013
I have a great idea,why don't people get on and follow whatever Religion they want and leave the rest of us out of it?
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#1016 Jun 22, 2013
Vasiliy Terkin wrote:
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So you think people hate them just because of the stereotype?
I don't hate them. But I find some of their manners unpleasant - it's merely cultural differences - they live in different communities and interact differently with each other, I think sometimes they mean well, but we interpret their behavior incorrectly, because Russian culture is very different. Like in any companionship - both sides must make effort to understand each other, otherwise it doesn't work...

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