China urges Israeli prime minister to remove obstacles to restarting talks with Palestinians

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China's premier has urged Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to remove obstacles to restarting talks with the Palestinians, as Beijing seeks to bring its growing international influence to bear on the Middle East peace process.

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The Shitreali's are not interested in peace. Hitler had the right idea, too bad he couldn't finish job.
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I'm thankful for China's interest in Israel, however, I'm wondering if China really isn't interested in something else....what they can use the Middle East for themselves? Where is the Middle East going to get for them?

China, historically doesn't bother with the politics of environments. They just get in there and wiggle a million year contract for something like raw materials or land or water or natural gas or a Mediteranean port or something that they can monopolize.

China should address the real situation there: A country that
shoots back when militants toss people killing bombs over the border
all the time. What is wrong with that? Maybe China should look at
the militant Palestinians and tell them to remove their need to kill people from their minds.

When THAT happens,then parties can sit at a table and talk.
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ASIA AFRO LATIN MID EAST wrote:
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Over 139 nations support Palestine as being "Statehood" while warring US/Israel gets shafted!
Are you daft????

Nobody is in opposition to a state hood for the Arabs. It's just that the Arabs won't accept that Israel is a county and state.

Until that happens the ball won't roll.

Typical hypocrisy, want a statehood for themselves without recognition of one that has existed for decades.
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mea wrote:
I'm thankful for China's interest in Israel, however, I'm wondering if China really isn't interested in something else....what they can use the Middle East for themselves? Where is the Middle East going to get for them?
China, historically doesn't bother with the politics of environments. They just get in there and wiggle a million year contract for something like raw materials or land or water or natural gas or a Mediteranean port or something that they can monopolize.
China should address the real situation there: A country that
shoots back when militants toss people killing bombs over the border
all the time. What is wrong with that? Maybe China should look at
the militant Palestinians and tell them to remove their need to kill people from their minds.
When THAT happens,then parties can sit at a table and talk.
Maybe it's that China knows the real situation there better than most of us in the West do.

Maybe it's that the Chinese know or read the Bible better than we all do.

Maybe it's that the Chinese knows the Birth of Isaac was also the Birth of Islam.

Maybe it's that the Chinese knows there was an old injustice which had needed the whole world to address upon to resolve the present day turmoil. For more than 7 thousands years the Birth of Isaac has screwed up the whole world with our present day's issues.

Genesis Chapter 21.

Ishmael, the first borne of Abraham, a Jew, is the one who has created Islam.

Address the injustice; listen to the 11th commandment Jesus gave us,'Repent. Love thy Neighbor as Thyself'. The Palestinians are your neighbors. Perhaps, the Chinese know better.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

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Andrez Lopez wrote:
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Maybe it's that China knows the real situation there better than most of us in the West do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese know or read the Bible better than we all do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows the Birth of Isaac was also the Birth of Islam.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows there was an old injustice which had needed the whole world to address upon to resolve the present day turmoil. For more than 7 thousands years the Birth of Isaac has screwed up the whole world with our present day's issues.
Genesis Chapter 21.
Ishmael, the first borne of Abraham, a Jew, is the one who has created Islam.
Address the injustice; listen to the 11th commandment Jesus gave us,'Repent. Love thy Neighbor as Thyself'. The Palestinians are your neighbors. Perhaps, the Chinese know better.
Or , maybe China has an unquenchable thirst for oil.
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UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>sO IS 139 NATIONS ARE ALL ARABS NATION? NO! in the first place those Palestine people are aboriginal of land way before Zionist Jews invaded them and taken their land..., So Zionist jews are evil one the real invader. Wake up time dimwit, go look readup on history, do the deep research on who land beleong to, afraid to know the truth. And corrupted and war m0pnger shall be casted out! You have evil Zionist jews and jews that want to stay far away from war mongering invader Zionist jews! You Fall soon or later, as evil will fall sooner of later ! Does 139 nations tell you anything , that you are wrong!! WBHAHAHAAHHAAA
You need to read more.... these posts have over and over debunked the whole "palastinian" joke.
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Andrez Lopez wrote:
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Maybe it's that China knows the real situation there better than most of us in the West do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese know or read the Bible better than we all do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows the Birth of Isaac was also the Birth of Islam.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows there was an old injustice which had needed the whole world to address upon to resolve the present day turmoil. For more than 7 thousands years the Birth of Isaac has screwed up the whole world with our present day's issues.
Genesis Chapter 21.
Ishmael, the first borne of Abraham, a Jew, is the one who has created Islam.
Address the injustice; listen to the 11th commandment Jesus gave us,'Repent. Love thy Neighbor as Thyself'. The Palestinians are your neighbors. Perhaps, the Chinese know better.
maybe you misquoted or maybe you really do believe what you wrote, but this is the way I see it as the Word of God explains it. And I'm not being critical of you or what you believe I'm just expressing my belief. Genesis 17: 18-21 "and Abraham said unto God o that Ishmael might live before thee! And God said Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed and thou shalt call his name Isaac and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael I have heard thee behold I have blessed him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly twelve princess shall he beget and I will make him a great nation. BUT MY COVENANT WILL I ESTABLISH WITH ISAAC which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year." So the way I believe is that Islam came through Ishmael. The twelve tribes of Israel came through Isaac. Isaac had 2 sons Esau and Jacob. Jacob had sons who became the 12 tribes of Israel. God changed Jacob's name to Israel. So I hope you really don't think the world is screwed up because of the birth of Isaac .
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Allen wrote:
<quoted text>maybe you misquoted or maybe you really do believe what you wrote, but this is the way I see it as the Word of God explains it. And I'm not being critical of you or what you believe I'm just expressing my belief. Genesis 17: 18: And as for Ishmael I have heard thee behold I have blessed him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly ---------- So I hope you really don't think the world is screwed up because of the birth of Isaac .
If Ishmael was blessed why was he banished from Abraham's household to the desert fed himself with grasshoppers and drank water condensed under the leaves of the desert plants?
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Andrez Lopez wrote:
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Maybe it's that China knows the real situation there better than most of us in the West do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese know or read the Bible better than we all do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows the Birth of Isaac was also the Birth of Islam.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows there was an old injustice which had needed the whole world to address upon to resolve the present day turmoil. For more than 7 thousands years the Birth of Isaac has screwed up the whole world with our present day's issues.
Genesis Chapter 21.
Ishmael, the first borne of Abraham, a Jew, is the one who has created Islam.
Address the injustice; listen to the 11th commandment Jesus gave us,'Repent. Love thy Neighbor as Thyself'. The Palestinians are your neighbors. Perhaps, the Chinese know better.
Are you NUTS?

CHINA IS MURDERING AND TORTURING CHRISTIANS, stupid!

From :http://www.christianitytoday. com/ct/2013/february-web-only/ how-china-plans-to-wipe-out-ho use-churches.html

How China Plans to Wipe Out House Churches

Report: Govt.-sponsored persecution rose 42 percent in 2012.

Morning Star News [ posted 2/18/2013 10:04AM ]
JONATHAN SARUK / GETTY
China's Christians felt a noticeable rise in persecution in 2012 as the Communist government began the first of a three-phase plan to eradicate unregistered house churches, a new report says.
Incidents of persecution of Christians rose by about 42 percent last year compared with 2011, according to the report by human rights group China Aid. Many of these incidents involved groups of Christians. In total, the number of individual persecuted Christians rose by roughly 14 percent and total individual detentions increased by nearly 12 percent. China Aid said overall total persecution in six categories was about 13 percent worse than in 2011—though China Aid termed its statistics just "the tip of the iceberg."
At least 132 incidents of persecution affecting 4,919 Christians—442 of whom were clergy—were reported in the country last year, according to China Aid's annual report. The Texas-based group tracked detention of at least 1,441 Christians, the sentencing of nine of them, and the abuse (verbal, mental and physical, including beatings and torture) of 37 Christians.
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Beijing, administered directly under the central government, witnessed the highest number of persecution cases, at 62, affecting 934 Christians; Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in northwest China followed with at 11 cases involving 382 Christians. Persecution was also high in central China—comprising Henan and Hubei Hunan provinces—where 1,056 Christians were affected, and in east China, which includes Shandong, Anhui, Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Jiangxi provinces, which witnessed harassment of 750 Christians.
The report also notes that persecution last year was 61 percent worse than in 2010; 85 percent worse than in 2009; 120 percent worse than in 2008; 308 percent worse than in 2007; and 372 percent worse than in 2006.
Ending Unregistered House Churches
The recent appointment of Xi Jinping as the new leader of China's Communist Party has made no difference in treatment of Christians, said a member of the Shouwang Church in Beijing, a congregation authorities have harassed for more than two years.
"I recently went to see the founding pastor, Jin Tianming, and his wife [under house arrest since April 2011] in their rented apartment in west Beijing," the source told Morning Star News. "I was not allowed to enter their home, and the pastor was not allowed to go outside. We chatted for a while at their home's doorway, as two plainclothes police officers watched."
Pastor Tianming was granted the right to do his workout outside his apartment every afternoon from November 2011 to early January this year. But since he attended a Shouwang weekly evening prayer meeting in the rented facility of Xinshu (New Tree) Church, a sister congregation of Shouwang, after jogging on the afternoon on Jan. 9, Tianming has not been allowed to leave his home.
The continued rise of persecution is not the only dynamic raising serious concerns; authorities have targeted unregistered house churches in a planned manner, according to the China Aid report. In 2008 and 2009, officials "targeted house church leaders and churches in urban areas," China Aid notes. In 2010, they "attacked Christian human rights lawyers groups and using abuse, torture and mafia tactics." The focus in 2011 was on increasing the intensity of attacks against Christians and house churches.
In 2012, a new three-phase approach was adopted to wipe out unregistered house churches, which the government saw as a hostile group of dissenters, and force them to join the official Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM) church system. In the first phase, from January 2012 to June, the State Administration for Religious Affairs (SARA) secretly investigated house churches across the country and created files on them, the report says. This was followed by a wave of crackdowns on house churches, which has continued into 2013, as part of the second phase. The second phase will also entail strongly encouraging unregistered churches to become part of the TSPM—at which point they would become known as "house gatherings," with the government banning the term "house churches."

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If Ishmael was blessed why was he banished from Abraham's household to the desert fed himself with grasshoppers and drank water condensed under the leaves of the desert plants?
I think it was because he lost a lot of money playing Baccarat in Vegas .
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Maybe it's that China knows the real situation there better than most of us in the West do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese know or read the Bible better than we all do.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows the Birth of Isaac was also the Birth of Islam.
Maybe it's that the Chinese knows there was an old injustice which had needed the whole world to address upon to resolve the present day turmoil. For more than 7 thousands years the Birth of Isaac has screwed up the whole world with our present day's issues.
Genesis Chapter 21.
Ishmael, the first borne of Abraham, a Jew, is the one who has created Islam.
Address the injustice; listen to the 11th commandment Jesus gave us,'Repent. Love thy Neighbor as Thyself'. The Palestinians are your neighbors. Perhaps, the Chinese know better.
Are you NUTS??????

China is TORTURING CHRISTIANS and the CCP dictatorship is OFFICIALLY ATHEIST!!!!!

From :http://www.christianitytoday. com/ct/2013/february-web-only/ how-china-plans-to-wipe-out-ho use-churches.html

How China Plans to Wipe Out House Churches

Report: Govt.-sponsored persecution rose 42 percent in 2012.

Morning Star News [ posted 2/18/2013 10:04AM ]
JONATHAN SARUK / GETTY
China's Christians felt a noticeable rise in persecution in 2012 as the Communist government began the first of a three-phase plan to eradicate unregistered house churches, a new report says.
Incidents of persecution of Christians rose by about 42 percent last year compared with 2011, according to the report by human rights group China Aid. Many of these incidents involved groups of Christians. In total, the number of individual persecuted Christians rose by roughly 14 percent and total individual detentions increased by nearly 12 percent. China Aid said overall total persecution in six categories was about 13 percent worse than in 2011—though China Aid termed its statistics just "the tip of the iceberg."
At least 132 incidents of persecution affecting 4,919 Christians—442 of whom were clergy—were reported in the country last year, according to China Aid's annual report. The Texas-based group tracked detention of at least 1,441 Christians, the sentencing of nine of them, and the abuse (verbal, mental and physical, including beatings and torture) of 37 Christians.
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Beijing, administered directly under the central government, witnessed the highest number of persecution cases, at 62, affecting 934 Christians; Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in northwest China followed with at 11 cases involving 382 Christians. Persecution was also high in central China—comprising Henan and Hubei Hunan provinces—where 1,056 Christians were affected, and in east China, which includes Shandong, Anhui, Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Jiangxi provinces, which witnessed harassment of 750 Christians.
The report also notes that persecution last year was 61 percent worse than in 2010; 85 percent worse than in 2009; 120 percent worse than in 2008; 308 percent worse than in 2007; and 372 percent worse than in 2006.
Ending Unregistered House Churches
The recent appointment of Xi Jinping as the new leader of China's Communist Party has made no difference in treatment of Christians, said a member of the Shouwang Church in Beijing, a congregation authorities have harassed for more than two years.
"I recently went to see the founding pastor, Jin Tianming, and his wife [under house arrest since April 2011] in their rented apartment in west Beijing," the source told Morning Star News. "I was not allowed to enter their home, and the pastor was not allowed to go outside. We chatted for a while at their home's doorway, as two plainclothes police officers watched."
Pastor Tianming was granted the right to do his workout outside his apartment every afternoon from November 2011 to early January this year. But since he attended a Shouwang weekly evening prayer meeting in the rented facility of Xinshu (New Tree) Church, a sister congregation of Shouwang, after jogging on the afternoon on Jan. 9, Tianming has not been allowed to leave his home.
The continued rise of persecution is not the only dynamic raising serious concerns; authorities have targeted unregistered house churches in a planned manner, according to the China Aid report. In 2008 and 2009, officials "targeted house church leaders and churches in urban areas," China Aid notes. In 2010, they "attacked Christian human rights lawyers groups and using abuse, torture and mafia tactics." The focus in 2011 was on increasing the intensity of attacks against Christians and house churches.
In 2012, a new three-phase approach was adopted to wipe out unregistered house churches, which the government saw as a hostile group of dissenters, and force them to join the official Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM) church system. In the first phase, from January 2012 to June, the State Administration for Religious Affairs (SARA) secretly investigated house churches across the country and created files on them, the report says. This was followed by a wave of crackdowns on house churches, which has continued into 2013, as part of the second phase. The second phase will also entail strongly encouraging unregistered churches to become part of the TSPM—at which point they would become known as "house gatherings," with the government banning the term "house churches."
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The 'scribes' who wrote the text of the Bible had to compromise with the Jewish establishment of their time.

The scribes wrote verse 18 of Chapter 17 of the Genesis,'Then Abraham said to God,'Let but Ishmael live on by your favor!'(New American Bible) which shows Abraham was under enormous pressure from the establishment of his time that made him turn to God for help to have Him care for his first borne, Ishmael, Jew and older brother of Isaac who was being persecuted by the establishment.

Our God whom no one have seen but perhaps Moses only in the form of a bush-fire and whom we attribute Him as the God who created the Universe is

Omnipotent -- all powerful;
Omnipresent - who is every where
Omniscient -- who knows everything
Omnibenevolent --who is total kindness to all of his creatures; who can not single out Ishmael to suffer only to please the Jewish establishment of their time.

If you are referring to what the 'scribes' wrote as being the correct word of God, then your talking about a different God who is not totally benevolent to all His creatures impartially and a different God whom we all believe in.

Just think, if you are a father of two sons, would you be impartial or partial?

This man-created God's partiality is what has screwed up the whole world from the beginning of times to the present day.

The injustice done to Ishmael and his descendants demands to be addressed in order to have peace. Even our church is culpable for sending Crusades to bring down Islam to their knees as if God need us, human, to intervene.

Christians or not Christian, we all need to follow Jesus's 11th commandment. Love your neighbor. Love the Palestinians. They are not only your neighbors. They are your cousins with the same DNA.

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'The scribes who wrote the Old Testament --Ezra'

The Jews even today in our times continue to keep many of the rules that were given to their fathers long ago by Ezra; so next to Moses, Ezra had greater earthly power over the Jews than any other prophet or teacher or even the Son of God, Jesus.
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Are you NUTS??????

China is TORTURING CHRISTIANS and the CCP dictatorship is OFFICIALLY ATHEIST!!!!!
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I think it was because he lost a lot of money playing Baccarat in Vegas .
You think wrong! When Ishmael was alive there was no Las Vegas.

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You think wrong! When Ishmael was alive there was no Las Vegas.
How do you know that ?

You can not prove their ever was an Ishmael.
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LOVE CHINA DESTROY CCP wrote:
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Are you NUTS?
CHINA IS MURDERING AND TORTURING CHRISTIANS, stupid!
From :http://www.christianitytoday. com/ct/2013/february-web-only/ how-china-plans-to-wipe-out-ho use-churches.html
How China Plans to Wipe Out House Churches
Report: Govt.-sponsored persecution rose 42 percent in 2012.
Morning Star News [ posted 2/18/2013 10:04AM ]
JONATHAN SARUK / GETTY
China's Christians felt a noticeable rise in persecution in 2012 as the Communist government began the first of a three-phase plan to eradicate unregistered house churches, a new report says.
Incidents of persecution of Christians rose by about 42 percent last year compared with 2011, according to the report by human rights group China Aid. Many of these incidents involved groups of Christians. In total, the number of individual persecuted Christians rose by roughly 14 percent and total individual detentions increased by nearly 12 percent. China Aid said overall total persecution in six categories was about 13 percent worse than in 2011—though China Aid termed its statistics just "the tip of the iceberg."
At least 132 incidents of persecution affecting 4,919 Christians—442 of whom were clergy—were reported in the country last year, according to China Aid's annual report. The Texas-based group tracked detention of at least 1,441 Christians, the sentencing of nine of them, and the abuse (verbal, mental and physical, including beatings and torture) of 37 Christians.
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As long as you are not Nuts and not stupid you are okay.

But remember God does not need your help to intervene. He knows better than you. Judge others and you will judge the same way. Giving yourself the mandate to intervene for God will severe your schizophrenia. For your own good, leave God's creation alone.
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The above was written by someone who just extremely recently openly advocated that Taiwan should sink any Filipino boat it encounters at sea.

Schizophrenia is something you yourself suffer.
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..YOU's Communist China has IT's Own SERIOUS-Problems,here...eh..(- )...

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