Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

[MUQ]

To: Ehav

Force or coercion is never to be used for anybody to accept Islam. In reality any conversion brought about in this way has no real value and a person such converted will always be a broken reed during any period of need or adversity.

We believe that Jesus was the Messiah, but Messiah is not such a unique or strange title in the idiom of Jews. It only meant a person appointed to any post by God. Jesus was the last of such Messiah from Jews.

King of Kings and Lord of Lords are the attributes fit for God, the Creator and sustainer of this Universe alone. We do not use them for any human beings.

Why only Jesus, by not believing in any true prophet of God, one cannot have any position in they eyes of God.

So we believe in all of God’ prophets, starting from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob,. Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon….. Jesus and finally Mohammad (Peace and Mercy of God be on all of His Prophets and Messnegers).

[Mine Eyes Have Seen]

Gray wrote:

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You can easily spot the experts on "That Evil Islamic World" by the folks who have never been there and have been effectively and professionally misinformed by Faux News and Wolf Blitzer (chief "News" anchor AND actual AIPAC employee and spokesman.
I wanted to find out the other side to EVERY story, so I went there (Through out the Islamic world)
AND.......Guess What.....
America's Ziono- Media exists to train Americans to hate Muslims and fight Israel's wars
Re: "......They are mindless and full of hatred"
Here's the Mindless Hate REAL Americans pay for with blood and money
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125288.h...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125294.h...
AND Here are the "Dual" Citizens that make policy for Americans to fight for........
http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

Interesting, I have traveled extensively the ME , Africa and Asia and I dont see it that way at all. I would guess you dont see the constant , daily atrocities committed by Islam in all countries where the cult is present.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

If Islam chose to coexist peacefully with the people of the world , they could. However , fact is , they choose not to and apologists will be the cults downfall.

[MUQ]

Mine Eyes Have Seen wrote:

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Interesting, I have traveled extensively the ME , Africa and Asia and I dont see it that way at all. I would guess you dont see the constant , daily atrocities committed by Islam in all countries where the cult is present.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
If Islam chose to coexist peacefully with the people of the world , they could. However , fact is , they choose not to and apologists will be the cults downfall.

I am sure that during your extensive travels, you never saw how others threat Islam and Muslims?

You never saw how they are discriminated and persecuted in countires like India, Philipine and else where.

What is the bias and discrimination they face in US and Europe?

Your eyes seem to have a "Filter" which only see the acts of violence and attrocities committed by Muslims only.... acts of the other parts are "invisible" to you. Or you turn you face other way.

You name should be "My Eyes Have Seen- What I want to See"!!

[Frederick Noble]

MUQ wrote:

To: Fredrick Nobel
It is clear that your knowledge about Islam is very poor and is not even first hand. You have picked these epithet from some Anti Islamic sites and use them as fruits of your own research.
If Muslims worship satan, then how come they seek protection from God against the accursed satan, every time they read Quran!! Will satan teach his followers to do that?
If Jesus knew that he will be crucified…then why did he begged God to “remove this cup from me”(as recorded in the Gospel according to Luke). Was that scene a mere drama?
On the day of Resurrection, all the prophets will be in the ranks of those who are nearest to God… no prophet wills serve any one…they all will enjoy the bounties and grace of God Almighty. It does not benefit you to belittle all prophets of God….that too to just raise the level of you prophet.
Jesus will indeed come back on this Earth before the End of Times and he will indeed rule on earth as a righteous prophet. That is our belief too.

if truth is said about islam then its anti islamic sites. Very good judgement i should say.

Islam was created on the dead bodies of meccas by the so called prophet mohammad then the jihadist with killed many raped and divided the loot, and the only chat they did was convert or die. this is how islam expanded. islam was built on swords and dead bodies hope u also know the black history of islam.

jesus was a 100% human when on earth he was asked in that manner he was an angel in heaven he was created first before all the creations but on earth he was just human. he was comforted by god and gave his life for the sin of adam from him death came to all people.

through resurrection death will be abolished.

Jesus was more than any prophets his birth was miracles one not any prophet had the privilege he will rule all the earth inclding the earlier prophet as we all know jesus was the last prophet

[Mine Eyes Have Seen]

MUQ wrote:

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I am sure that during your extensive travels, you never saw how others threat Islam and Muslims?
You never saw how they are discriminated and persecuted in countires like India, Philipine and else where.
What is the bias and discrimination they face in US and Europe?
Your eyes seem to have a "Filter" which only see the acts of violence and attrocities committed by Muslims only.... acts of the other parts are "invisible" to you. Or you turn you face other way.
You name should be "My Eyes Have Seen- What I want to See"!!

Again, interesting . I have extensive experience in the Philippines. The muslim population is heavily concentrated in Mindanao not Luzon. The muslims are actively engaged in subversive activities to cause harm to the Philippines and are fully committed to the establishment of an Islamic nation in the southern Philippines. See Abu Sayyaf and Moro Islamic Liberation Front aka MILF. These groups perpetrate heinous crimes on innocents everyday, they are especially fond of spontaneous beheadings. You are quite wrong, these muslim populations discriminate and commit atrocities against non-muslims without provocation. Simply being Christian and living in the southern PI places one at extreme risk. Simply check the travel advisories issued by the US DOS.

What sort of bias and discrimination prompted muslims to burn Paris? Cartoons of Muhommad ! Muslims are stereotyped everywhere they exist in large minority numbers because of the violence and death that ALWAYS comes with their presence. This will continue. Name a few countries where muslims have a large percentage of minority population and peacefully coexist. There are none.

Ignore the rhetoric of the website http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Simply look at some of the empirical data and statistics and news articles. Clearly its past time that your Islam stops blaming others for the volatile nature of their cult and starts looking in the mirror. Wherever muslims become a significant minority , extreme, deadly violence always ensues.

To draw a silly analogy , its like a man 10 times divorced who complains he just cant find a good woman ! Time for muslims to look inward. Do you have the courage to lead that reconciliation or will you continue to be part of the problem and invent new excuses? Its your faith not mine , choose to peacefully coexist or face the inevitable.

[Mine Eyes Have Seen]

Frederick Noble wrote:

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if truth is said about islam then its anti islamic sites. Very good judgement i should say.
Islam was created on the dead bodies of meccas by the so called prophet mohammad then the jihadist with killed many raped and divided the loot, and the only chat they did was convert or die. this is how islam expanded. islam was built on swords and dead bodies hope u also know the black history of islam.
jesus was a 100% human when on earth he was asked in that manner he was an angel in heaven he was created first before all the creations but on earth he was just human. he was comforted by god and gave his life for the sin of adam from him death came to all people.
through resurrection death will be abolished.
Jesus was more than any prophets his birth was miracles one not any prophet had the privilege he will rule all the earth inclding the earlier prophet as we all know jesus was the last prophet

You're right , Jesus WAS more than a prophet. He was the son of God. Numerous EYEWITNESS accounts saw him crucified, entombed and risen. Doubting Thomas demanded to see the spear wound in his side and the nail holes in his hands and feet. When shown in front of witnesses he no longer doubted. Fairy tale ? No more a fairy tale than any eye witnessed only yet archeological supported event in history ie the exploits of Hannibal, Alexander, Cesar(s), Plato, Socrates or even the US revolutionary war.

Others are free to doubt or believe as they choose and live peacefully side by side with me. I have no doubts.

[MUQ]

To: Lipush

Yes I have read the OT, NT and also Quran carefully and that is why I wrote what I wrote.

1. When Egyptians persecuted Jews, God heard their cries and freed them from the bondage and settled them into the land of Palestine…a land flowing with milk and honey. For what purpose?

Just to enjoy that Milk and Honey? No….. To walk in the ways of life and live according to God’ Laws and Commandments, and set an example for other nations.

2. But when the same Jews rebelled against God and killed prophets, and did mischief in the land, the same Merciful God punished them and allowed Jerusalem Temple to be destroyed and Jews to be taken into captivity to Babylon for 70 years.

3. After 70 years of captivity, God again had mercy on Jews and freed them from captivity and settled them once more into Palestine and the Temple to be rebuilt. For what purpose?… That Jews should go back to their earlier ways?… No….So that Jews could once again walk into ways of God.

4. Then God sent Jesus as final Jewish prophet to Jews, to simplify their religion for them, but they behaved exactly in the same way, as their forefathers had, they not only rejected his message, but even tried to kill him.

A prophet like John the Baptist was killed in cold blood and no one from the population said a word about it.

5. Because of these crimes, God again punished Jews and once again caused the Jerusalem to be invaded, the temple to be destroyed and Jews to be evicted from the Land of Palestine, this time for 2000 years.

6. Jews had one more chance to come back to the mercy of God, this time by accepting the Last and Final prophet Mohammad, if they would have believed in him, they would have got back every thing, the land would have been theirs for ever, but as usual they behaved again as their forefathers had. From day one they became avowed enemy of the last prophet and tried every thing in their power to derail his message, and continue till this day.

[MUQ]

7. If we assume you saying that God wanted to protect Jews from the persecution of Nazis and Christians and wanted to provide them a safe place to live, then once again I ask, for what purpose?

8. Is God only interested that Jews should eat, drink and enjoy the good things of this life, or does God want some thing else? Obviously God would want that Jews should correct their ways and live according to His Laws and Commandments.

9. The present state of Israel is in no manner a state which follows God’ laws and commandments. It is a materialistic state like any other European state, run by Atheists Zionists. Why would God be happy to establish such a nation and such a state run by Jews?

10. There are indeed innocent persons in Israel, there are indeed some good persons in Israel, there are religious persons in Israel…. but as a whole the country is not run according to Laws and Commandments of God.

11. That is why I concluded that only purpose for this is either a test and trial of Muslims or gathering Jews from all corners of the world to await their Final Judgment.

12. The only option open to Jews (and Muslims too) is to repent, turn back and establish a just and law abiding state in Israel. They should prove to be better than Muslims in following God’s Laws and Commandments.

13. Let me also mention that God has given no Blank Check to Muslims either. He is a Just God and He judges impartially between people and nations. If Muslims do evil in the eyes of God, they will also face punishment of God, just like Jews.

PS:

- your statement that Arabs also persecuted Jews is not correct, before 1917, there was no Arabs – Jews problem in the world
- The movement for Jewish Homeland in Palestine has nothing to do with Holocaust; the Zionist movement started in 1899, when there was no existence of Nazi party.
- Since 1899 Zionists were trying to claim Palestine on one pretext or other, they helped in the allied victory over Turkish Empire and were rewarded for that by Britain to migrate to land of Palestine in droves.

[truth]

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[truth]

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[Lipush]

MUQ wrote:

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Hard to follow, thought I'll do my best

God brought us to this land, in order to protect us from the nemesis.

When the golden calf was built, God punished the people for 40 years in the deathly desert, instead of 11, so that the enitre generation that sined will not enter the promised land.

Moses himself, was one of being punished.

When Saul and Ahab did not follow God, he punished them. when the people followed false God, great HaShem used Eliyahu to enlighten them;

Forever and all eternity Jews has been acting many times against what is called God's will, and since he was full of mercy, he forgave us and gave us the option to fix things.

When Pharaoh tried to haunt us,God made him drown with his Army.

When Haman the wicked tried to toy with Ahasuerus's mind, God made him recall the bravery of Mordechai, who saved his life.

When the Roman people took over Messada, God showed them the Jews prefered to commite suicide and not being held captive or convert.

We defeated our enemies in six days, what showed the intire world the willpower and bravery of the Jewish soldier.

In the intire history, from the Torah till Psalms, from the 1900 til these days, we were proven that though we commited many sins, God is still with us.

God ordered us to keep and fight for Israel, or not we shall be punished. and that is what we try to do, that is an historical and religious and natural basic right.

[Ehav]

MUQ wrote:

To: My kind of Town
From your comments , it is evident that you have never visited Saudi Arabia and all your knowledge about it is from the “Biased Western Media”.
I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia…. And I am one of the millions of workers of every nation of the earth, that come and work here.
Contrary to what you have written, Saudi Arabia is one of the calmest and safest country in the world. Its crime rates are lowest in the world.
You with all of your civilization and with all of your freedoms, have the highest crime rates in the world.
Osama Bin Laden is not the role model for us. I did not even heard the name of Al Qaeda till after 9/11 events.
We do not hate every thing of Western origin. What we hate about west is their Atheism, and their Materialism, and their falling moral values. The things which are good in West (hard work, discipline, and respect for knowledge) and we try to follow them.
But if you think that you become Western by Drinking Alcohol, Eating Macdonald and drinking Pepsi, then these are false standards.
Jew’ only achievement is their survival…. But they are no match for us!!. They started 3000 years before us, but they number only 15-20 Millions, most of them from the same race.
Islam on the other hand is a major world religion, its followers number close to 1,5000 Millions and are from all nationalities , races, linguistic and ethnic back ground.
How could you compare Apple with oranges?

Nor have I visited Saudi Arabia.
I would and have welcomed Islamic into my home in an instant.
However, I donot welcome anti-Israeli sentiments in my home.
No one is perfect.
Again, all Israelis living in Israel may appear as an easy target. But I assure you, those who try to harm Isreal will suffer dearly.

[Ehav]

Monk wrote:

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Which cult do you belong to?

Your a day late and two dollars short.
But then you have heard this before.

[MUQ]

4 Israel Fredrick Nobel 677 if truth is said about islam then its anti islamic sites. Very good judgement i should say.

Islam was created on the dead bodies of meccas by the so called prophet mohammad then the jihadist with killed many raped and divided the loot, and the only chat they did was convert or die. this is how islam expanded. islam was built on swords and dead bodies hope u also know the black history of islam.

jesus was a 100% human when on earth he was asked in that manner he was an angel in heaven he was created first before all the creations but on earth he was just human. he was comforted by god and gave his life for the sin of adam from him death came to all people.

through resurrection death will be abolished.

Jesus was more than any prophets his birth was miracles one not any prophet had the privilege he will rule all the earth inclding the earlier prophet as we all know jesus was To: Fredric Nobel

How are you "sure" that "truth" is being said at those Anti Islamic sites? You have to hear the other side also and make your own research and then make your judgment.

If courts would have given their judgment only after hearing one party, you know how much injustice would have been done in this world.

You said Islam was created on the dead bodies of Makkah people, while the fact is that Makkah people persecuted our Prophet and his followers for 13 long years. He and his followers had to fled Makkah to save their lives…. Even in Medina they did not allow him to leave in peace…

Do you know what happened when the Prophet Captured Makkah? How a blood thirsty man would have done?

He forgave every one in Makkah!! Can you give any more example of this type of behaviour from Tyrants and Oppressors of the world? The best time of pardon is when you have the enemy in your power and that is what our prophet showed in that moment.

Then total number of casualties in his ten years of warfare do not even reach 1000 counting on both side!! And what were the results? Compare that with the bloodshed which Joshua and David etc did in the small area of Palestine and what results did they got?

No doubt Encyclopedia Britannica recognizes our prophet as the Most Successful of all religious personalities.

Yes, Jesus birth was miraculous, that shows the power of God and not of Jesus. Did Jesus created himself? What hand had he in his own creation?

Adam and Eve also had miraculous creation, did they became god or superhuman?

Jesus was what he was, a righteous prophet of God, Born without human father, endowed with many miracles by God, and his mission was reforming the religion of Jews. Jesus' gave good news (Gospel) of coming Kingdom of God…. Jesus did nor establish it. He left it to some one else, to the Last and Final prophet of God, Mohammad (May peace and mercy of God be on all His prophets and messengers)

[MUQ]

To: Fredric Nobel

How are you "sure" that "truth" is being said at those Anti Islamic sites? You have to hear the other side also and make your own research and then make your judgment.

If courts would have given their judgment only after hearing one party, you know how much injustice would have been done in this world.

You said Islam was created on the dead bodies of Makkah people, while the fact is that Makkah people persecuted our Prophet and his followers for 13 long years. He and his followers had to fled Makkah to save their lives…. Even in Medina they did not allow him to leave in peace…

Do you know what happened when the Prophet Captured Makkah? How a blood thirsty man would have done?

He forgave every one in Makkah!! Can you give any more example of this type of behaviour from Tyrants and Oppressors of the world? The best time of pardon is when you have the enemy in your power and that is what our prophet showed in that moment.

Then total number of casualties in his ten years of warfare do not even reach 1000 counting on both side!! And what were the results? Compare that with the bloodshed which Joshua and David etc did in the small area of Palestine and what results did they got?

No doubt Encyclopedia Britannica recognizes our prophet as the Most Successful of all religious personalities.

Yes, Jesus birth was miraculous, that shows the power of God and not of Jesus. Did Jesus created himself? What hand had he in his own creation?

Adam and Eve also had miraculous creation, did they became god or superhuman?

Jesus was what he was, a righteous prophet of God, Born without human father, endowed with many miracles by God, and his mission was reforming the religion of Jews. Jesus' gave good news (Gospel) of coming Kingdom of God…. Jesus did nor establish it. He left it to some one else, to the Last and Final prophet of God, Mohammad (May peace and mercy of God be on all His prophets and messengers)

[MUQ]

To: MEHS

Your post shows that what I was saying about you, that your Eyes only See, What you Want to see!!

It is this one sided bigoted views of events that is the cause of all problems in the present times.

If you are unable to or don’t want to analyze the problems which Muslims have in Philippines or Kashmir or in India or elsewhere, then there is no use arguing with you.

So I should leave you to your world of half truth and bigotry.

But whatever you say or do will not change the growth of Islam in the world. It will keep on growing no longer how much it pains you or demoralizes you and persons like you.

[MUQ]

To: MEHS

Sorry for rocking your boat…. There was not a single eyewitness of Jesus' Crucifixion and Resurrection, who has given his or her testimony to us.

None of the Gospel writers were an eye witness of these events, and they did not record who told them these things.

They were just writing from "hearsay" that Jesus was crucified, so they assumed that he must have resurrected.

Jesus was Son of God in the sense of Jewish language, which denotes a righteous prophet and a godly person…. Not in its literal sense as suggested by Paul.

You talk about Archeological evidence…if it was not for 1500 Million Muslims giving testimony about Jesus, it was hard to proof that Jesus even existed as a historical person!!

You have no doubt, because you have closed your mind and accept Paul's words without any analysis.

[Monk]

Ehav wrote:

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I'm a day late and two dollars short.
But then I've have heard this before.

Typical nonsense from you. Israel and US are united by our hearts and minds.
You lack both.

[MUQ]

The "Unity" between US and Israel is like Between a 50 Ture Monster Truch and a Pushbike!!

Or between a Handcuffed Thief to the "Policeman".

It is Israel which is "forcing" USA to be its "friend and protector".

It is one sided friendship, all the decks are loaded in the favor of Israel.

It is USA which has to give, give and give...and it is for Israel to take. take and take.

It is certainly a most "weired friendship and unity" in the world today!!

[truth]

muq you talking wrong story about truth..truth is hero....martyr ...in Muslim religion martyr have believe under Muslim religion its mean have ''life''...I have life because I believed in Jesus ..he is Son of God!Did I am against Israel ..not my friend why should be...but Israel is 12 tribe! Than you have to know where is that 12 tribe!Jesus is from Israeli people from house of David from Jacob...Yahweh say I am God of Isac God OF Jacob and so on...Jesus is born from ''virgin Mary'' its mean mystical...its mean where come from real Jesus seeds!Its perfection...because so many don't like that don't you...o well in ''Holy Kuran''they didn't denied Jesus and Mary but describe differently..As I told you I am ''prayer and believer''..but I give you warning be honest and tell me where is big and real historic Palestine!
How many nation posses Palestinian historic land!
Please don't tell me its been so so long trough history...as well big Israeli land is been so big trough so so long history!O well tell me something about your leaders ''incarnations''..did you recognize them...its mean body is some but spirit of what is inside.. body is just vehicle ..spirit is which side dark or light...which purpose? Where come from?
Jesus is ''light''..we are children s of light..moon are which symbol.. please don't be very angry I strongly believe that God as Creator say ''let be light''..Also I believe that fulfillment of prophecy will be with Jesus as salvation.