Palestinians mark 60th anniversary of uprooting

Palestinians marked the 60th anniversary of their uprooting with rallies, sirens and black balloons yesterday - an annual ritual made even darker this year by crippling internal divisions and diminishing ...

[Ira Greenberg]

Sad and tragic. I support Israel, but things could have been done differently, maybe it would have eased some of the tension we now face today. Shalom.

[grumpy]

What nonsense.
From 1948 until 1967 Jordan was in control of the West Bank and the old city of Jerusalem. Egypt was in control of the Gaza strip. Syria was lobbing shells into Israel.
But the plight of the Palestinians is Israel's fault?
GIVE ME A BREAK!!

[Random Access]

The truth is that Israel is there to stay. Until the Arabs realize this there will never be peace. Hard liners calling for the destruction of Israel better hope that Israel continues to listen to the UN. Otherwise Israel may not stop the next time the Arabs attack and take over all of their territory.

[Ira Greenberg]

grumpy wrote:

What nonsense.
From 1948 until 1967 Jordan was in control of the West Bank and the old city of Jerusalem. Egypt was in control of the Gaza strip. Syria was lobbing shells into Israel.
But the plight of the Palestinians is Israel's fault?
GIVE ME A BREAK!!

Prior to 1948 there were Palestinians already living in the territory now known as Israel "grumpy". Many of them were forcibly evicted from their homes and their land. You think 60 years of anger, strife and warfare is all much ado about nothing?

[grumpy]

Ira Greenberg wrote:

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Prior to 1948 there were Palestinians already living in the territory now known as Israel "grumpy". Many of them were forcibly evicted from their homes and their land. You think 60 years of anger, strife and warfare is all much ado about nothing?

How many were forcibly evicted from their homes? They fled because Arab propaganda depicted Israelis as monsters. Those who were evicted were those who were in the middle of a war zone. They were not living in the land originally designated as Israel.
You qualify your opinion by equating Israel today with Israel in 1948
I keep posting these facts over and over but it doesn't seem to matter.
In 1947 the UN designated the the West Bank and the old Jerusalem as a Palestinian state and gave Jordan to mandate to create that state. Jordan didn't, and in 1967, when Jordan attacked Israel, the area came under Israeli control. The Gaza strip was part of Sinai until 1967.
The Syrians were lobbing shells from the Golan Heights into Israel until 1967.
Any income the West Bank people had was from work in Israel.
With all the Arab wealth, a viable Arab society for the Palestinians could have been created, but it suited Arab purposes to have an unhappy Arab population with which Israel has to deal.

[greg_allen]

the israelis used terrorism to steal the land. now they whine about terrorism.
the land was stolen through terrorism and propaganda. as hard as the zionists try, you cannot rewrite history.

[Jim Hayden]

Ira Greenberg wrote:

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Prior to 1948 there were Palestinians already living in the territory now known as Israel "grumpy". Many of them were forcibly evicted from their homes and their land. You think 60 years of anger, strife and warfare is all much ado about nothing?

After all. Considering that the Arabs had been illegally occupying Israel for about 1878 years. The Romans dispersed the Jews illegally and the Ahabs moved in as squatters and have been illegally occupying the land ever since.

[Jim Hayden]

greg_allen wrote:

the israelis used terrorism to steal the land. now they whine about terrorism.
the land was stolen through terrorism and propaganda. as hard as the zionists try, you cannot rewrite history.

Hey Greg please tell me this. How can a person steal what was legally his to begin with?

[Jim Hayden]

I wonder how many people know that the original deed specified the boundaries for Israel as extending from the Euphrates river in Iraq to the Nile in Egypt and from the easter most border of Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea. Israel shares her border with both Lebanon and Syria to her west and with Saudi Arabia to her east.

Now here is the interesting part Israel has yet to actually controlled all of the land that was originally deeded to her.

[sun reader]

greg_allen wrote:

the israelis used terrorism to steal the land. now they whine about terrorism.
the land was stolen through terrorism and propaganda. as hard as the zionists try, you cannot rewrite history.

the Palestinians are illiterate, ignorant, thrid world terrorists. Israel is a friend and allie to the united states..
read a history book you bum.

[greg_allen]

Jim Hayden wrote:

I wonder how many people know that the original deed specified the boundaries for Israel as extending from the Euphrates river in Iraq to the Nile in Egypt and from the easter most border of Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea. Israel shares her border with both Lebanon and Syria to her west and with Saudi Arabia to her east.
Now here is the interesting part Israel has yet to actually controlled all of the land that was originally deeded to her.

please define "deeded"

[James Shortz]

greg_allen wrote:

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please define "deeded"

gerg_alice = school marm / house-frau

[greg_allen]

James Shortz wrote:

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gerg_alice = school marm / house-frau

once again andy provides us with some brilliant insight.

[Mr Truthiness]

Jim Hayden wrote:

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After all. Considering that the Arabs had been illegally occupying Israel for about 1878 years. The Romans dispersed the Jews illegally and the Ahabs moved in as squatters and have been illegally occupying the land ever since.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You're a funny guy!!!

[Jim Hayden]

greg_allen wrote:

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please define "deeded"

Read in the Book of Genius where God describes the land grant he gave Abraham. That is a deed if I have ever read one. Most modern day deeds read the same way.

You know what? It really does not matter whether you, I or anybody else believes that deed is real or not. Very soon Israel will acquire all of the land God promised her so many centuries ago.

[Jim Hayden]

Mr Truthiness wrote:

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You're a funny guy!!!

I'm glad I was able to give you a good laugh.

[grumpy]

greg_allen wrote:

the israelis used terrorism to steal the land. now they whine about terrorism.
the land was stolen through terrorism and propaganda. as hard as the zionists try, you cannot rewrite history.

See the movie or read the book "Lawrence of
Arabia" and tell me how many people there are in the land now called Palestine. And how peace loving these dessert tribes were.
What history did you read?

[greg_allen]

Jim Hayden wrote:

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Hey Greg please tell me this. How can a person steal what was legally his to begin with?

explain"legally his to begin with"

[greg_allen]

Jim Hayden wrote:

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Read in the Book of Genius where God describes the land grant he gave Abraham. That is a deed if I have ever read one. Most modern day deeds read the same way.
You know what? It really does not matter whether you, I or anybody else believes that deed is real or not. Very soon Israel will acquire all of the land God promised her so many centuries ago.

2 problems here
1) i am agnostic
2) democracies adhere to a separation between church and state

[Jim]

Jim Hayden wrote:

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Read in the Book of Genius where God describes the land grant he gave Abraham. That is a deed if I have ever read one. Most modern day deeds read the same way.
You know what? It really does not matter whether you, I or anybody else believes that deed is real or not. Very soon Israel will acquire all of the land God promised her so many centuries ago.

Interesting since the Palestinians claim a right to Israel or parts thereof based on the Bible also--don't they?