What Can Washington Do About Iran?

Dec 6, 2012 Full story: Mother Jones 165

The current U.S. strategy is not exactly a raging success-perhaps detente rather than military power is how we might breach that Wall of Mistrust with Iran.

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“bless the USA”

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#62 Dec 9, 2012
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude
The CIA was behind the coup.
I tolf you to go and consult official sources from your own country but you have proved so many times that you are just a lying ASSFERHIRE that i am not going to waste much time with you hoping that you have one ounce of intelligence to acomplish that single self educational task.
Research ability of Kanthunt inoperative.
Next
Iranians only got back what was due to them.
For a long time the reaps of petrol extraction were for the oil cies & a few in the iranian gvmt and close rels.
The people got nothing out of that.
next
Iran cozied with communists.
1/ cozying with communists is not a crime. iranians chose to cozy with who they wanted to
2/ besides the us policy was obviously hostile so it was a natural choice to go east.
next
the embassy was sacked, the Airbus was shot down.
Hostages on one side who eventually returned home, 295 dead on the other side who never made it back home.
Time to stop.
next
Iran armed Syria as Russia did.
Nothing illegal about that.
Maybe american weapons were unavailable ?
As to Iran arming taliban & Al Qaeda, LIES.
next
Iran N korea Venezuela , the axis of Evil ?
off topic go play with yourself
next
Israel ?
off topic go play with yourself
Washington will not do anything major about Iran, they have been trying very hard, oh yes they are doing nasty tricks, but Iran is off-limits.
Were you not the one that said the iran currency drop in value was going to be the end of Iran ?
What happened Kenny Boy ?
Made a real fool of yourself...
Why don't you go and educate yourself and let the people of Iran deal with the change for themselves.
After all you would not care an iota for any of them anyway.
No, it was the brainchild of the MI5.
Put cozying with the communists in its rightful time and place as I did. Big mistake by Moseewhatsisname..
Nationalization of another country's hard-earned assets is just thievery by someone without the brains and balls to gain them legally. And when they got them, they fucked them up.
Damned right Iran arms Al Qaeda and the Taliban. To deny that is an outright lie, one of many from you.
You continue to dodge the question as to why Iran's pals are the scum of this planet. You dodge the question of why the Arabs detest Iran. You dodge the question as to why the IAEA distrusts Iran.
No, I am not the one that claimed Iran's currency devaluation would drop Iran, but indeed it might.
I hope the Iranian people do something about their sorry-assed, corrupt, nut-case theocracy, and yes, I don't give a shit what happens to them collectively, short of war.
Your lies just dig you in deeper. No wonder you are stuck in the anus of the world, Reunion.
bohart

Newport, TN

#63 Dec 9, 2012
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude
The CIA was behind the coup.
I tolf you to go and consult official sources from your own country but you have proved so many times that you are just a lying ASSFERHIRE that i am not going to waste much time with you hoping that you have one ounce of intelligence to acomplish that single self educational task.
Research ability of Kanthunt inoperative.
Next
Iranians only got back what was due to them.
For a long time the reaps of petrol extraction were for the oil cies & a few in the iranian gvmt and close rels.
The people got nothing out of that.
next
Iran cozied with communists.
1/ cozying with communists is not a crime. iranians chose to cozy with who they wanted to
2/ besides the us policy was obviously hostile so it was a natural choice to go east.
next
the embassy was sacked, the Airbus was shot down.
Hostages on one side who eventually returned home, 295 dead on the other side who never made it back home.
Time to stop.
next
Iran armed Syria as Russia did.
Nothing illegal about that.
Maybe american weapons were unavailable ?
As to Iran arming taliban & Al Qaeda, LIES.
next
Iran N korea Venezuela , the axis of Evil ?
off topic go play with yourself
next
Israel ?
off topic go play with yourself
Washington will not do anything major about Iran, they have been trying very hard, oh yes they are doing nasty tricks, but Iran is off-limits.
Were you not the one that said the iran currency drop in value was going to be the end of Iran ?
What happened Kenny Boy ?
Made a real fool of yourself...
Why don't you go and educate yourself and let the people of Iran deal with the change for themselves.
After all you would not care an iota for any of them anyway.
Whoa! is it possible? Kenhunt is the sidekick to the super hero Ayreshit? It has to be , he posts with the same disdain of facts and has the same hatred of arabs and persians. Batman had Robin and Ayreshit has Kenhole, the co pilot of the jet shit.
bohart

Newport, TN

#64 Dec 9, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it was the brainchild of the MI5.
Put cozying with the communists in its rightful time and place as I did. Big mistake by Moseewhatsisname..
Nationalization of another country's hard-earned assets is just thievery by someone without the brains and balls to gain them legally. And when they got them, they fucked them up.
Damned right Iran arms Al Qaeda and the Taliban. To deny that is an outright lie, one of many from you.
You continue to dodge the question as to why Iran's pals are the scum of this planet. You dodge the question of why the Arabs detest Iran. You dodge the question as to why the IAEA distrusts Iran.
No, I am not the one that claimed Iran's currency devaluation would drop Iran, but indeed it might.
I hope the Iranian people do something about their sorry-assed, corrupt, nut-case theocracy, and yes, I don't give a shit what happens to them collectively, short of war.
Your lies just dig you in deeper. No wonder you are stuck in the anus of the world, Reunion.
Kenhole, the Iranian govt. in 1952 wanted to be paid more for their oil than what the Brits paid them, the Brits said no, and contacted Eisenhower whO instigated the coup through the CIA, and we installed our guy the Shah who unleashed the Saavak the dreaded secret police on the people for years. The Iranian revolution was blowback due to our operation, Hell even the CIA admits it and warned of it! If you'd get Sean Hannity's nutsack out of your eyes and learn a little real history and news you might increase the factual content of your posts.Say hello to Professor Ayreshit for me.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

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#65 Dec 9, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Kenhole, the Iranian govt. in 1952 wanted to be paid more for their oil than what the Brits paid them, the Brits said no, and contacted Eisenhower whO instigated the coup through the CIA, and we installed our guy the Shah who unleashed the Saavak the dreaded secret police on the people for years. The Iranian revolution was blowback due to our operation, Hell even the CIA admits it and warned of it! If you'd get Sean Hannity's nutsack out of your eyes and learn a little real history and news you might increase the factual content of your posts.Say hello to Professor Ayreshit for me.
Blowhole, The Brits did the exploration, drilling, pumping, and refining at their expense and then the Iranians grabbed it all, outright theft. The coup was in 1953 and was the brainchild of the Brits with the full participation of the USA. The Brits were pissed about their enterprise being stolen and the USA was concerned about Mossewhatsisname's seemingly pro-communist leanings and mental instability. I pointed out this was the cold war and much was seen as at stake besides just crude. You overlook facts to suit your own view. Maybe if you'd take your own advice you might carry some water. As it is, you mostly just pass water.

I am no fan of Hannity, voted for Ron Paul, and I have the balls to allow the public to see my past comments on my profile. Grow a pair.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#66 Dec 9, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoa! is it possible? Kenhunt is the sidekick to the super hero Ayreshit? It has to be , he posts with the same disdain of facts and has the same hatred of arabs and persians. Batman had Robin and Ayreshit has Kenhole, the co pilot of the jet shit.
Whoa! Is it possible? Blohard is the butt buddy of oxy, the hermit of Reunion? It has to be, he posts with the same disdain of facts and has the same hatred of America and the Brits. Ellen has Portia and Blohard has oxy, the bumblefucks of bullshit.
bohart

Newport, TN

#67 Dec 9, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Blowhole, The Brits did the exploration, drilling, pumping, and refining at their expense and then the Iranians grabbed it all, outright theft. The coup was in 1953 and was the brainchild of the Brits with the full participation of the USA. The Brits were pissed about their enterprise being stolen and the USA was concerned about Mossewhatsisname's seemingly pro-communist leanings and mental instability. I pointed out this was the cold war and much was seen as at stake besides just crude. You overlook facts to suit your own view. Maybe if you'd take your own advice you might carry some water. As it is, you mostly just pass water.
I am no fan of Hannity, voted for Ron Paul, and I have the balls to allow the public to see my past comments on my profile. Grow a pair.
Wow! so the Brits drill for Iranian oil, they paid the Iranians below market prices for the oil and the Iranians elect a leader to do something abou It. Did the BritS agree to pay fair price for the oil? NO! they simply got the U.S. TO TOPPLE A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THE CHEAP FLOW OF OIL TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE.No one was fighting commies here, and we weren't making the world safe for democracy,are you so blind to think that U.S. foreign policy is driven by freedom? there's a word for what we did, it's called imperilism. Have Ayreshit google it for you.
bohart

Newport, TN

#68 Dec 9, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoa! Is it possible? Blohard is the butt buddy of oxy, the hermit of Reunion? It has to be, he posts with the same disdain of facts and has the same hatred of America and the Brits. Ellen has Portia and Blohard has oxy, the bumblefucks of bullshit.
There it is , the old hatred of America line, Were you one of those patriots during the Vietnam war who where yelling America, love it or leave it while we killed 3.5 million people ? You have no clue how to love your country, a real patriot speaks up when his nation is in the wrong, like General Smedly Butler,or Thomas Jefferson who warned his countrymen NOT to trust government . When we are in the wrong it takes real courage to stand against the mob. Only three members of the house of representatives voted against the Tonken gulf resolution , which history PROVED never happened, that gave Johnson the go ahead to wage an illegal murderous war that killed millions and poisoned an entire region.Can you handle truth? we were in the wrong! We were in the wrong with Iran and we were wrong in Iraq. Men face the truth, immaturity aids in clinging to lies and beliefs.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#69 Dec 9, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! so the Brits drill for Iranian oil, they paid the Iranians below market prices for the oil and the Iranians elect a leader to do something abou It. Did the BritS agree to pay fair price for the oil? NO! they simply got the U.S. TO TOPPLE A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THE CHEAP FLOW OF OIL TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE.No one was fighting commies here, and we weren't making the world safe for democracy,are you so blind to think that U.S. foreign policy is driven by freedom? there's a word for what we did, it's called imperilism. Have Ayreshit google it for you.
. It is revisionist history to take an event out of its place in time and judge it by modern mores as you just did. The fact is, the Cold war and fear of communist expansion were realities in that place and time, and you cannot discount that quite so blithely as you just did. Your approach is naive and sophomoric.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#70 Dec 9, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
There it is , the old hatred of America line, Were you one of those patriots during the Vietnam war who where yelling America, love it or leave it while we killed 3.5 million people ? You have no clue how to love your country, a real patriot speaks up when his nation is in the wrong, like General Smedly Butler,or Thomas Jefferson who warned his countrymen NOT to trust government . When we are in the wrong it takes real courage to stand against the mob. Only three members of the house of representatives voted against the Tonken gulf resolution , which history PROVED never happened, that gave Johnson the go ahead to wage an illegal murderous war that killed millions and poisoned an entire region.Can you handle truth? we were in the wrong! We were in the wrong with Iran and we were wrong in Iraq. Men face the truth, immaturity aids in clinging to lies and beliefs.
.

I simply reversed your line. Dont dish out what you cannot take.

I was not in a position to debate the Vietnam war ar the time. I believe it was not justified, in retrospect. Monday morning quarterbacks like you are no patriots at all. As for tonkin, I googled it and found there two incidents, one of which was real and the second was wrong. Beyond that, flap your stupid jowls all you want. You still carry no water on the subject. I believe we were in the right for the first gulf war, and completely wrong for the second. I do not know what you are referring to reference your pal, Iran. You are no man at all, just chunking after the facts rocks at what I do indeed believe to be a great country, not perfect, but great beyond its proportions. And yes, I believe you hate the USA.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#71 Dec 9, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Kenhole, the Iranian govt. in 1952 wanted to be paid more for their oil than what the Brits paid them, the Brits said no, and contacted Eisenhower whO instigated the coup through the CIA, and we installed our guy the Shah who unleashed the Saavak the dreaded secret police on the people for years. The Iranian revolution was blowback due to our operation, Hell even the CIA admits it and warned of it! If you'd get Sean Hannity's nutsack out of your eyes and learn a little real history and news you might increase the factual content of your posts.Say hello to Professor Ayreshit for me.
Your knowledge is welcomed in this thread!
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! so the Brits drill for Iranian oil, they paid the Iranians below market prices for the oil and the Iranians elect a leader to do something abou It. Did the BritS agree to pay fair price for the oil? NO! they simply got the U.S. TO TOPPLE A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THE CHEAP FLOW OF OIL TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE.No one was fighting commies here, and we weren't making the world safe for democracy,are you so blind to think that U.S. foreign policy is driven by freedom? there's a word for what we did, it's called imperilism. Have Ayreshit google it for you.
Your scathing wit is also welcomed!
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Right from you Imam's mouth, eh! Give us a credible hypertexted reference, boy. BTW, the CIA has no authority within the USA.
It seems as though taking things out of context is Kenny's only talent. Yet he says ........
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>. It is revisionist history to take an event out of its place in time
He should talk? My cup runneth over with laughter.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#72 Dec 9, 2012
BTW: It goes in this order -

* The democratic government of Iran nationizes its oil production, thus removing Britain's controll of Iran's natural reource and putting it into the hands of the Iranian people, thus sharing the prosperity with the Iranian people whose lives improved "over night".

* Britain calls "foul" and asks the CIA for help.

* Britain and the U.S. boycott Iran's oil thus freezing Iran's establised outlet.

* Enter the USSR who are willing to "do business" with Iran.

* This pisses off Britain and the U.S. who had hoped to strangle Iran's economy.

* The CIA is given a million dollars to topple the democratic government of Iran and uses the threat of "communism" as their excuse. For those of you who do not know who the CIA is, it is an American (NOT British) agency that the U.S.(not the UK) uses CLANDESTINELY abroad to their own advantage.

NOTE: The same procedure was used against Cuba later on. Neither Castro nor Mossedeq were communists, but by the implementation of U.S sanctions both Cuba and Iran were compelled to "do business" with the USSR. The rest is history. Two histories actually:(1) the Whine House/Pentagram version ..... and then (2)the truth.
ocxz

Mayotte

#73 Dec 10, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it was the brainchild of the MI5.
Put cozying with the communists in its rightful time and place as I did. Big mistake by Moseewhatsisname..
Nationalization of another country's hard-earned assets is just thievery by someone without the brains and balls to gain them legally. And when they got them, they fucked them up.
Damned right Iran arms Al Qaeda and the Taliban. To deny that is an outright lie, one of many from you.
You continue to dodge the question as to why Iran's pals are the scum of this planet. You dodge the question of why the Arabs detest Iran. You dodge the question as to why the IAEA distrusts Iran.
No, I am not the one that claimed Iran's currency devaluation would drop Iran, but indeed it might.
I hope the Iranian people do something about their sorry-assed, corrupt, nut-case theocracy, and yes, I don't give a shit what happens to them collectively, short of war.
Your lies just dig you in deeper. No wonder you are stuck in the anus of the world, Reunion.
MI5 is involved only in your fantasy world.
You cannot provide proof of that. Liar.

Iran arms Al Qaeda in your fantasy world.
You cannot provide proof of that. Liar.
You stated it, the onus is on you to prove it. Liar.
Not on me to confirm your lies. Liar.

So you have now been exposed as a lying Assferhire.
What a fool you are.

And you did say Iran would collapse.
You even refuse to admit what you actually wrote.
You are a lying assferhire.

Shame...
ocxz

Mayotte

#74 Dec 10, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
Iran supports various Palestinian antiIsrael NGOs financially and militarily. Iran purports to be the base and catalyst for the coming of the 12th Imman. Iran generates mountains of antiWestern and antiIsrael propaganda. They are all interconnected and pertinent to this topic.
Stop lying Assferhire, you do not know what you are talking about.
Are you related to Barbie ?
Ken / Barbie
Force Majeure

Sweden

#75 Dec 10, 2012
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot provide proof of that. Liar
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text> Liar.
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>the onus is on you to prove it. Liar.
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>Not on me to confirm your lies. Liar.
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>So you have now been exposed as a lying Assferhire.
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>You are a lying assferhire.
Shame...
Yes. I think that accurately sums it up.
ocxz

Mayotte

#77 Dec 10, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>

I am no fan of Hannity,
You are no fan of sanity as well.

“bless the USA”

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#78 Dec 10, 2012
MI5 is involved only in your fantasy world.
"In meetings in November and December 1952, the secret history says, British intelligence officials startled their American counterparts with a plan for a joint operation to oust the nettlesome prime minister."
You can google that, Liar.

Iran arms Al Qaeda in your fantasy world.
"Taliban commanders say that Iran is training hundreds of insurgents to kill forces of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, as well as Americans. The training has included mounting intricate ambushes and learning how to place improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, for maximum effect."
You can Google that. Liar.

And you did say Iran would collapse.
Ooops! You said I said Iran would collapse because of its failing currency, which I did not. Caught in another lie, now you change what you said, and I agree, Iran will collapse but due to many internal causes.
Admit it, you misquoted me.

You are just another USA-hater, nothing more. Poorly educated, buying into every anti-USA propaganda piece, and doing no good. I doubt you have a real friend in the world. Fuck you.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

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#79 Dec 10, 2012
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
You are no fan of sanity as well.
Neither you nor I will find it in Topix. Maybe you can find it on Reunion.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

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#80 Dec 10, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>

I think .
That is your biggest lie of them all.

“bless the USA”

Since: Apr 07

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#81 Dec 10, 2012
Force Majeure wrote:
BTW: It goes in this order -
.
Step one, British oil companies invest heavily in oil exploration and exploitation in Iran, after Iran allied with the Nazis and lost in WWII.

* The democratic government of Iran nationizes its oil production, thus removing Britain's controll of Iran's natural reource and putting it into the hands of the Iranian people, thus sharing the prosperity with the Iranian people whose lives improved "over night".

The government of Iran nationalized British oil production facilities. The Iranian people did not benefit from this. Even to today the Iranian people are not benefitting from their national asset, oil, as its proceeds are frittered away in corruption and defense spending.

* Britain calls "foul" and asks the CIA for help.

Britain devised a plan for a coup and presented it to the USA.

* Britain and the U.S. boycott Iran's oil thus freezing Iran's establised outlet.

Who established it?

* Enter the USSR who are willing to "do business" with Iran.

Far more than willing. The USSR was already involved in political intrigues in Iran, and the PM was entertaining them. We are talking about Stalinist Russia, one of the most murderous regimes in history.

* This pisses off Britain and the U.S. who had hoped to strangle Iran's economy.

Did Iran think it would be taken lightly?

* The CIA is given a million dollars to topple the democratic government of Iran and uses the threat of "communism" as their excuse.
Neither Castro nor Mossedeq were communists,

You really mean to tell us Castro was and is not a communist? Even you cannot tell a lie that big.
Force Majeure

Sweden

#82 Dec 10, 2012
Kenhunt wrote:
<quoted text>
..... were?...... is?
Kenny has always had difficulties with English grammar. He "did" .... He still "does".

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