Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

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TEHRAN, Iran- Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.
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Is this really hapening ?
If it is surly its time to stop all aid to egypt.
No doubt if it is true our resident murhumna would say its their fault for oposing the murhumna government.
Behaving like this the wages of islam will be poverty death and flies.

Sky News Arabic correspondent in Cairo confirmed that protestors belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood crucified those opposing Egyptian President Muhammad Morsi naked on trees in front of the presidential palace while abusing others. Likewise, Muslim Brotherhood supporters locked the doors of the media production facilities of 6-October [a major media region in Cairo], where they proceeded to attack several popular journalists.

That there were attacks and violence—both in front of Egypt’s presidential palace and at major media facilities—is well-documented. An August 9 report by El Balad, a widely read Egyptian website, gives the details:

Last Wednesday, August 8,“thousands of the Muslim Brotherhood’s supporters” attacked 6-October’s media facilities, beat Khaled Salah—chief editor of the privately-owned and secular Youm 7 newspaper—prevented Yusif al-Hassani, an On TV broadcaster, from entering the building, and generally “terrorized the employees.”

El Balad adds that the supporters of Tawfik Okasha, another vocal critic of President Morsi—the one who widely disseminated the graphic video of a Muslim apostate being slaughtered to cries of “Allahu Akbar”—gathered around the presidential palace, only to be surrounded by Brotherhood supporters, who “attacked them with sticks, knives, and Molotov cocktails, crucifying some of them on trees, leading to the deaths of two and the wounding of dozens.”

Far from condemning these terrorists, Al Azhar, Egypt’s most authoritative Islamic institution, has just issued a fatwa calling for more violence and suppression, saying that “fighting participants in anti-Muslim Brotherhood demonstrations planned for 24 August is a religious obligation.”

Most of the aforementioned Arabic sites point out that these attacks are part of the Muslim Brotherhood’s campaign to intimidate and thus censor Egypt’s secular media from exposing the group’s Islamist agenda, which Youm 7, On TV, and Okasha do daily.[Note: the latter's channel was recently shut down, despite Morsi's previous reassurances that "no station or media will be shut down in my era."]
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We have cencorship in the UK because if the stories like this came out and were proved true, we would certaily look differantly at the antics of the islamists in luton and east london.

Crucifixion and Mob Rule In Egypt
By Ted on August 16, 2012 in General
By Theodore Shoebat

It was reported just today, by Raymond Ibrahim, that the Muslim Brotherhood has crucified people, accused of being against Muhammad Morsi, naked and on trees in front of the presidential palace. Raymond Ibrahim reports:

El Balad adds that the supporters of Tawfik Okasha, another vocal critic of President Morsi—the one who widely disseminated the graphic video of a Muslim apostate being slaughtered to cries of “Allahu Akbar”—gathered around the presidential palace, only to be surrounded by Brotherhood supporters, who “attacked them with sticks, knives, and Molotov cocktails, crucifying some of them on trees, leading to the deaths of two and the wounding of dozens.”

Al-Azhar, the major university of the Islamic world, released a fatwa just after this event, which stated that “fighting participants in anti-Muslim Brotherhood demonstrations planned for 24 August is a religious obligation.”

This violence is in fact sanctioned by the Koran, in which it states thus:–

“The punishment of anyone who fight against Allah and His apostle and do mischief in the land is to be killed or crucified or to have their hands and feet from opposite ends or be banished from the land.”(Quran: The table spread)

From this, we can conclude that as long as the Muslim Brotherhood has power over Egypt, this violence will only get worse, and despotism will be the authority of the nation.


Theodore Shoebat is the author of For God or For Tyranny
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You have been a good teacher mug lets what you advocatate world domination for islam kill all the Jews sometimes is just the zioness but then you get carried away and go for all of them. Its the copts fault for being murdered and raped and being burned out.
The more people look into islam the more hatred they see in the koran its you holy book are the quotes untrue?
islam is failing people daily.
We dont want islam it wrong on so many levels.
Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
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w wman uk wrote:
Is this really hapening ?
If it is surly its time to stop all aid to egypt.
No doubt if it is true our resident murhumna would say its their fault for oposing the murhumna government.
Behaving like this the wages of islam will be poverty death and flies.
Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
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We have cencorship in the UK because if the stories like this came out and were proved true, we would certaily look differantly at the antics of the islamists in luton and east london.
Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
And an illiterate at that.
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Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
And an illiterate at that.
Prove it wee man. The quotes are from the koran the book of peace. l would like to be shown as wrong but sadly the koran betrays islam for what it is condemed by its own verse.
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<quoted text> Prove it wee man. The quotes are from the koran the book of peace. l would like to be shown as wrong but sadly the koran betrays islam for what it is condemed by its own verse.
And the Bible is so much better? All religious texts contain some form of violence, prejudice and just plain fabrication -- the Bible isn't immune to that and neither is the Qur'an.
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British Courts to Decide U.S. Drones Do Murder?

By Nat Hentoff

(Contd.)

So, too, would President Obama, whose recurrent command is for all of us to “look forward, not back.” Nor has he shown any inclination to bring within our rule of law — and international agreements we have signed — any CIA agent or superior who may be proved to have become a secondary partner to murder.

Indeed, Obama himself — without going to any court — becomes the reigning official authorizer of murders by his just pointing to a target on the kill list.

This distinctive, unparalleled presidential role in American history appears not to have concerned in the least the wide range of Americans who pridefully awarded Obama a second term. Nor did I hear a word of objection from the Mitt Romney campaign or from all but a splinter of the citizenry.

I expect no change in Obama’s views or conduct in office — no matter what the British judiciary decides about its intelligence agencies becoming providers of murderous aid to operators of the president’s favorite weapon against terrorism.

As of this writing, The New York Times notes,“Judges in Britain have yet to decide whether to hear the case …(They initially declined, but are considering an appeal that was lodged in January.)”

British intelligence agents are apprehensively waiting to know whether — and where — they will have to find lawyers to defend them against serious violations of their national and international laws.

To put this discomfiture in fearful context,“The case,” says the Times,“has put a spotlight on international intelligence-sharing agreements that have long been praised by officials as vital links in the global fight against terrorist groups, but that rights advocates criticize as a way for Britain and other European countries to reap the benefits of the contentious drone program without its political costs.”

In this country, the political costs to Barack Obama have been less than meager. But in Italy and elsewhere, members of intelligence agencies are in trouble for having been helpful to the CIA in American kidnappings and renditions of terrorism suspects to be tortured in other obliging countries. And under Obama, secret renditions continue.
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And the Bible is so much better? All religious texts contain some form of violence, prejudice and just plain fabrication -- the Bible isn't immune to that and neither is the Qur'an.
You are right, since violence is also part of human life, no religious text should ignore it.

Quran justifies violence to bring peace, justice and equity in the lands. It is violence to bring peace to the country.

In Bible the violence is justified so that a particular race gets sole possession of a piece of land which has become their Permanent Inheritance.

There is difference in the purpose of violence in Quran and Bible.

Unless you understand this, just saying that both preach violence is not correct.

Which is the country that does not has strong army? So every country is ready for violence? Is there any one condemning every country in the world?

Why then we pick up religious scriptures for criticism?

Jesus did not preach violence, how come his followers became the ultimate killing machines?
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Now our WW Man has his crocodile tears flowing for Copts of Egypt.

Ho day or night for him is over unless he sheds a bucketful of tears for them.

It seems they have become an dangerous specie and within a few years all of them would be murdered in Egypt.

If one or two of them get killed in the violence, the whole world media laments for their loss.

Copts and 20 % of Egypt population, and Muslims are around 15-17 % of Indian Population.

Does he know how many Muslims are killed in India every year by extremist Hindus?

He does not keep a count and nor does the world media, and if they have to make any comment, they say Muslims deserve it.

Why cant you use the same standard for Copts of Egypt?

If you want to live in peace, you will leave in peace. But if you want to create problem with the Govt. and demand separate land for you, you will have to face the consequences.

If Muslims who number millions in many Western countries, start demanding separate lands for them in those countries, how would Govt. and people react?

But hate mongers like this WWM would always use double standards.

He has declared Copts as innocent and angels in human shape, without even going there and seeing the root cause of problem.

He wants to spread hate and hatred against Islam and Muslims on any cost.

And that is what I said many times, once a hate monger, always a hate monger.

He lacks any power of analyzing any problem and see what is the real cause and who is at fault.

How can he when his senses are overwhelmed by the hate and hatred of a particular community?
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<quoted text> Prove it wee man. The quotes are from the koran the book of peace. l would like to be shown as wrong but sadly the koran betrays islam for what it is condemed by its own verse.
Bible is the same.
Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
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Bible is the same.
Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
You are right brother, his specialty is to spread hate and hatred about Islam and Muslims.

It is irrespective on which subject he writes, he will end it with hate message against Islam and Muslims.

As you correctly diagnosed "Once a Hate Monger, always a hate Monger".

He has one track mind and one point agenda, to demonize Islam and Muslims, by every means, fair or foul.
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And the Bible is so much better? All religious texts contain some form of violence, prejudice and just plain fabrication -- the Bible isn't immune to that and neither is the Qur'an.
Your wrong mug says the koran is straight from the big tooth fairy. It is the word off allaah the arrsol and the pedoplile prophet mohamed and if you dont believe it you should be punished. Why is the koran so bothered about the non believer over 50% concerns how to punish and reap vengence on non believers?
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Bible is the same.
Once a hate monger, always a hate monger.
ocxz is once an idiot always an idiot. Try posting more than a few words and confirm it.
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Now our WW Man has his crocodile tears flowing for Copts of Egypt.
Ho day or night for him is over unless he sheds a bucketful of tears for them.
of a particular community?
Is it not shamefull that you post thus with such a disregard for suffering of non believers in egypt.The murder arson and rape of the copts that takes place in egypt is a stain on the islamic goverment. You replies are an example of how the islamic mindset.
Intresting that you bring up rape as it would apear that there are serious proble with the way some muslim males look upon women.
Rape: Nothing to do with Islam?
I got some comments, among others from Norwegian blogger Bjørn Stærk, to my posts about the Norwegian government covering up the number of rapes committed by immigrants. The Swedish government is probably even worse, but Sweden is in many ways collapsing. Although he agreed that the statistics should be published, he questioned whether these rapes have anything to do with Islam. It is true that mass rapes of "the enemy's women", in part to humiliate the enemy's men, is not unique to Islam. It has been done at times of war by the Vikings, the Mongols, the Germans and the Russians during WW2, and all the way up to the Balkans in the 1990s. That's also my point. The number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in Western nations are so extremely high that it is difficult to view them only as random acts of individuals. It resembles warfare. This happens in most Western European countries, as well as in other infidels countries such as India.
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In Bradford, England, Channel 4 pulled a documentary about Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abusing white English girls, some as young as 11. Writer Theodore Dalrymple thinks that "thanks to their cultural inheritance,(Muslim) abuse of women is systematic rather than unsystematic as it is with the whites and blacks." In France, grotesque reports about systematic gang rapes of French or "too Western" Muslim girls keep coming in. At the same time, European jails are getting filled up with Muslims imprisoned for robberies and all kinds of violent crimes, and Muslims bomb European civilians. You can see the mainstream media are struggling to make sense of all of this. That's because they can't, or don't want to, see the obvious: This is exactly how an invading army would behave. Rape, pillage and bomb.
I disagree that this has nothing to do with Islam. Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. And Muslims do follow their medieval religious laws, even today:
Robert Spencer on rape and jihad
What does rape, then, have to do with these religious conflicts? Unfortunately, everything. The Islamic legal manual ‘Umdat al-Salik, which carries the endorsement of Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, stipulates:“When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” Why? So that they are free to become the concubines of their captors. The Qur’an permits Muslim men to have intercourse with their wives and their slave girls:“Forbidden to you are ... married women, except those whom you own as slaves”(Sura 4:23-24).
After one successful battle, Muhammad tells his men,“Go and take any slave girl.” He took one for himself also. After the notorious massacre of the Jewish Qurayzah tribe, he did it again. According to his earliest biographer, Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad “went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the men of Banu Qurayza] and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches.” After killing “600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900,” the Prophet of Islam took one of the widows he had just made, Rayhana bint Amr, as another concubine.
Emerging victorious in another battle, according to a generally accepted Islamic tradition, Muhammad’s men present him with an ethical question:“We took women captives, and we wanted to do ‘azl [coitus interruptus] with them.” Muhammad told them:“It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.’” When Muhammad says “it is better that you should not do it,” he’s referring to coitus interruptus, not to raping their captives. He takes that for granted.
Here's what Vice Director of Jihad Watch, Hugh Fitzgerald, whom I rate in league with Ali Sina and Ibn Warraq as among the best commentators of Islam in this age, has to say about the issue (scroll down):
'For her to be absolved from guilt, a raped woman must have shown good conduct'
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For non-Muslim women, they are in every respect -- the way they walk, the way they talk, those bedroom eyes we all know so well -- simply asking for it, and Muslim men have every right to do what they wish.
It is not understood that Western women are not so much regarded by most Muslims as individuals, but as "their women," the women who "belong" to hostile Infidels. They are booty, to be taken, just as the land of the Infidels someday will drop, it is believed, into Muslim hands -- by demographic conquest rather than military conquest. It has worked in many parts of Africa; and if Muslims fail to reproduce even faster than they do, there is always the expedient of killing the remaining Infidels.
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All over France there are cases of rapes, by MUslim gangs, of French girls. In Australia, in 2000, Bankstown and Greenacre (in Sydney) had a succession of gang-rapes, in which the victims testified to the particularly gruesome details of being assaulted by a dozen or more men at a time, screaming at them for being "Aussies" or "Christians." It made a big splash in Sydney, when the cases came to trial in 2002. Alan Jones, an Australian commentator, noted: "Let's not mince words here -- these are racist attacks against ordinary Australian girls carried out by out of control Muslim Lebanese...." The girls themselves all testified to the fact that the attacks were full of observations about, not race, but religion -- and the confusion of Jones here is understandable. The Western world is still groping to understand something of which it had been so remarkably and indeed, in some ways so fortunately unaware; it is the attitudes engendered toward Infidels -- a Frenchman who is beaten to death for trying to retrieve his daughter's stolen bicycle, a mother and her year-old-child assaulted on an RER train near Louvres, the thousands of assaults which are a modern version of the rape and pillage that Muslim conquerors were permitted whenever they conquered Infidel lands. This is not mere crime, but ideologically-justified crime or rather, in Muslim eyes, attacks on Infidels scarcely qualify as crime.
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Have we forgotten the mass rapes, at the hands of Muslims (Turks, Kurds, and in the Syrian Desert, Arabs) of the Armenian women, those helpless "giavours," in the first full-scale massacres in modern times, those of 1894-1895, and then the genocidal campaign that began in 1915 and went on for years? Have we all forgotten what happened to the Assyrian Christian women during the Assyrian massacres of 1933, when -- just a few months after the British left -- Muslim Iraqis had a high old time with their helpless Christian population? What about the rapes of the Christian women, kidnapped in Ramadi, Iraq last year -- never to be returned to their husbands, and now the permanent property of the Muslims who kidnapped them? Shall one recall what happened to the Christian Maronites in Damur, at the hands of the PLO? What about the Copts, in Egypt? Or, during the Algerian War the mass rape of Christian and Jewish women by the FLN (scarcely given enough attention in Alastair Horne's reticent "A Savage War of Peace" but given much more by such writers as Jacques Soustelle, the great ethnographer of Mexican culture, and a perceptive analyst of the Algerian situation and the real nature of Islam -- akin, in his way, to Andre Servier).
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The figures on Muslim rape of Western women in Europe are astounding. In Denmark and Norway, between 65% and 70% of all rapes are committed by Muslims, who as yet still less than 5% of the population. One local judge in Norway actually exonerated one rapist by accepting his defense that the victim's dress was taken by him to mean that she was egging him on. Her dress was nothing special to Norwegians, but the judge found it to be unbearably provocative to this poor Muslim immigrant. A curious argument, is it not? Even if she had been dressed a la Gisele Bundchen doing a shoot for Victoria's Secret -- and she of course was not -- rape is not an acceptable response.

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