Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

[Thor]

Derek wrote:

Iran is a weak nation with no power they are terrified of the us and the jewish state you iran are nothing but talk weak weak weak

Jews got their a55 beat by Hezbollah in Lebanon....lol...

Stick to corruption...it suits you.

[MUQ]

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Obama:“The Best is Yet to Come.” Really?

By Alan Hart
(Contd.)

“One explanation is that many young American Jews feel that Zionism conflicts with their liberal values. Raised on the ideal of universalism and exposed to post-nationalist ideology on campus, they cannot grasp how a nation state of and for a particular people is not racist by definition.

“More importantly, many young Jews are compelled by the Palestinian narrative of victimhood. They have internalized the belief that the underdog is always an innocent victim and holds the moral high ground, and they cannot give their allegiance to the ‘oppressor.’ The anti-Israel bias at many schools, particularly in Middle East studies departments, reinforces these negative views, as does the propaganda of anti-Israel campus movements like BDS. There is cause for concern that the American Diaspora’s support for Israel will not be inevitable.”

What all this suggests to me is that a growing number of American Jews are beginning to understand that it’s only by distancing themselves from the Zionist monster that they can best protect their own interests. As I have previously argued (it bears repeating), what we are witnessing in the world today is a rising global tide of anti-Israelism, which is NOT anti-Semitism. The danger is that it could be transformed into classical anti-Semitism if American and European Jews do not distance themselves from the Zionist state and its crimes.

It has never been a secret that the Zionist lobby in all of its manifestations does not speak for most American Jews. In recent years, for example, polls taken by various Jewish institutions and organizations have indicated that AIPAC, the dictator of American policy on all matters to do with the Israel-Palestine conflict, represents the views and wishes of not more than 25 per cent of American Jews.

If the process of American Jews distancing themselves from an arrogant, aggressive, oppressive, racist and unbelievably self-righteous Israel really is underway, a second-term President Obama will be more free than any of his predecessors (though perhaps not until his last year in office) to take on, isolate and see off the Zionist lobby.

As Gideon Levy noted in one of his most recent articles, even Israel itself “needs of a furious and determined American president”. Why? Because such a president would be Israel’s “last chance to save itself from the curse of the occupation.” Levy also expressed cautious optimism on the grounds that “the second Obama is expected to have greater self-confidence and be less concerned with considerations of survival than the first Obama.”

Another indication that events in America may be moving in a direction that would enable a second-term President Obama to put America’s own interests first and use the leverage he has to require Israel to be serious about peace was touched upon by Thomas Friedman in a recent article for the New York Times. His main point was that his president would be so busy with pressing domestic issues that he won’t have time to address Israeli matters. But he, Friedman, had a message for Israelis. It was that they had to understand ”that we’re not your grandfather’s America anymore.” His explanation of why included this:

“To begin with, the rising political force in America is not the one with which Bibi has aligned

[MUQ]

Israel. As the Israeli columnist Ari Shavit noted in the newspaper Ha’aretz last week.‘In the past, both the Zionist movement and the Jewish state were careful to be identified with the progressive forces in the world.… But in recent decades more and more Israelis took to leaning on the reactionary forces in American society. It was convenient to lean on them. The evangelists didn’t ask difficult questions about the settlements, the Tea Party people didn’t say a word about excluding women and minorities or about Jewish settlers’ attacks and acts of vandalism against Palestinians and peace activists. The Republican Party’s white, religious, conservative wing was not agitated when the Israeli Supreme Court was attacked and the rule of law in Israel was trampled.’ Israel, Shavit added, assumed that ‘under the patronage of a radical, rightist America we can conduct a radical, rightist policy without paying the price.’ No more.”(The last two words were Friedman’s own).

One implication is that it’s not only a growing number of American Jews who now regard Israel as a liability. Though still a minority, a growing number of all Americans are beginning to see the same light.

And that’s why I am not abandoning hope that at a point, most likely in the last year of his second term, President Obama will feel himself free enough to do what I truly believe he really wants to do – confront the Zionist monster, beginning with its lobby in America.

Alan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their global consequences and terrifying implications – the possibility of a Clash of Civilisations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic.... More

[Little Blue Alien]

Were comin for you zionist bastards and you're gonna get the probing of the century.
Meep Moo Beep!

[MUQ]

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An American Legacy: Her Deadly Warriors-in-Chief

By Gary Brumback

America’s presidents choose war
Then watch it from afar
Blood starts flowing
Body count starts growing

November 14, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - You may rightly ask after reading this article what earthly good will come of having written it? To be truthful, I don’t rightly know; maybe nothing, maybe something. We live in a culture that accepts and even expects war. That must change or war will eventually annihilate humanity. To do nothing, to write nothing therefore is unacceptable to me. I like to think that seeking a better understanding of the chief warrior’s deadly habit may be necessary before stopping the habit.

My favorite American historian, the late Howard Zinn wrote the book, A People’s History of the United States.1 An alternate title for this article could be “A Pacifist’s History of U.S. Warriors-in-Chief.” I’m one of those “peaceniks” that dangerous patriots (“my country right or wrong”) love to disparage. I hated compulsory RTC in college eons ago. I’ve never owned or shot a gun. And, to borrow a warrior’s phrase,“I take no prisoners in arguments with “warnicks.” All this is to say that try as I might to be objective this article may be biased. You decide.

I’m going to examine very briefly five issues concerning our warrior presidents and war itself. First, how many military interventions have our presidents initiated and what has been the grave count from those interventions? Second, why have our presidents been so willing to send knowingly, countless people to their graves? Third, if war is murder and since US presidents do not go into battle themselves are they surrogate murders? Fourth, is any war “just?” Fifth, can America’s endless wars be ended for good?

How many “grave” choices have U.S. presidents made?

Counting declared wars and other military interventions is difficult even in the Internet age where nothing seems to go untracked and unreported, but it is impossible to get any reliable estimate of total “grave” count from those interventions. Only cemetery keepers keep reliable tabs of their own plots. So my overall impression will have to do and it’s really all I need to do since one death by force is one too many.

Military interventions were launched throughout a sizeable part of the world over 300 times by 43 of our 44 presidents. President Benjamin Harrison didn’t have time or strength to flex his muscles, dying from an illness after being in office only 32 days. The death toll of Americans alone from all those interventions amounts to over two million. Between six and seven million civilians died from U.S military intervention in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. A former CIA agent has estimated that six million people have died from covert CIA operations alone.2

Why do U.S. presidents make those choices?

To understand why anyone, presidents included, do what they do requires acknowledging their gender and knowing their character and their circumstances. As an organizational psychologist turned political psychologist in retirement I am going to tell you what I have concluded from decades of studying leadership. It’s been leadership outside the Oval Office, but I think what I have learned can be generalized to it. What influences CEOs and presidents alike is more similar than different.

[MUQ]

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Circumstances

All people deal in one way or another with circumstances, some of their own making. Circumstances usually involve temptations and pressures. I call those circumstances “badvantages” because they give advantages to bad behavior. U.S. presidents, like CEOs, are bombarded by them, most especially by occupying a seductive position, by presiding over the best or worst of times, by a warfare culture, by upside down incentives, by global enticements, and overall by the powerful corpocracy, the collusion between corporate interests and corruptible officials in all three branches of the government.

1. Seductive position. History is replete with characters seduced by the powerful positions they held. Power is readily available to be exploited and abused. The U.S. presidency is perhaps the most powerful militarily speaking and thus the most seductive position in the world militarily speaking.

2. Best or worse of times. The best of times, which stokes greed, tends to bring out the worst in human nature just as the worst of times, which stokes need, tends to do the same. Fortune 500 companies, for instance, tend to get into legal trouble more often when times are good. In the case of U.S. presidents, however, the worst of times is when they get more militaristic. With the arguable exception of Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor (FDR is said to have deliberately provoked the attack), warriors-in-chief create the worst of times by creating enemies for the self-serving purposes of the industrial/military/political triumvirate. Nothing boosts its profits and power like having an enemy or two or three.

3. Warfare culture. The triumvirate is adept at creating and sustaining a culture in which continuous military interventions is accepted and expected. Besides relying on spreading lies (e.g., WMDs), half truths and propaganda through corporate-controlled mainstream media, on infiltration into the educational system at all levels, and on entertainment (e.g., war movies) the triumvirate has mastered the art of what we psychologists call “operant conditioning”, continuously pairing a negative or less favorable item with a more favorable one until the former becomes more like the latter. That explains, for example, why basketball fans will without reservation watch a game played on an aircraft carrier.

4. Upside Down Incentives. CEOs and U.S. presidents are addicted to them. An upside down incentive, as you can probably guess, is one that rewards bad behavior and/or punishes good behavior. Never having to worry about being prosecuted as a war criminal by the International Criminal Court because it is an absolutely feckless entity and because the U.S. refuses to be a signatory member of it is the most egregious upside down incentive for a U.S. warrior-in-chief.

[w wman uk]

MUQ wrote:

Israel. As the Israeli columnist Ari Shavit noted in the newspaper Ha’aretz last week.‘In the past, both the Zionist movement and the Jewish state were careful to be identified with the progressive forces in the world.… But in recent decades more and more Israelis took to leaning on the reactionary forces in American society. It was convenient to lean on them. The evangelists didn’t ask difficult questions about the settlements, the Tea Party people didn’t say a word about excluding women and minorities or about Jewish settlers’ attacks and acts of vandalism against Palestinians and peace activists. The Republican Party’s white, religious, conservative wing was not agitated when the Israeli Supreme Court was attacked and the rule of law in Israel was trampled.’ Israel, Shavit added, assumed that ‘under the patronage of a radical, rightist America we can conduct a radical, rightist policy without paying the price.’ No more.”(The last two words were Friedman’s own).
One implication is that it’s not only a growing number of American Jews who now regard Israel as a liability. Though still a minority, a growing number of all Americans are beginning to see the same light.
And that’s why I am not abandoning hope that at a point, most likely in the last year of his second term, President Obama will feel himself free enough to do what I truly believe he really wants to do – confront the Zionist monster, beginning with its lobby in America.
Alan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their global consequences and terrifying implications – the possibility of a Clash of Civilisations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic.... More

Have you any comment about the poor slave woman that had her head cut off is this islamic juresprudance ? The murhumna that did that was a real man wasnt he? Be carefull your master, the head murhumna might want you head if you mess up at work

[w wman uk]

Thor wrote:

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Jews got their a55 beat by Hezbollah in Lebanon....lol...
Stick to corruption...it suits you.

So wee man dhor has emerged this year wheres your clones bejerk and dumbarse ? Did your moma buy to a new computer to wack off on boy?

[The Advocate]

A threeway between MUQ, wman and thor. Hmmm. This will get interesting.

[w wman uk]

The Advocate wrote:

A threeway between MUQ, wman and thor. Hmmm. This will get interesting.

Not really they are so weak and blind. Ome thinks hes a viking god when hes just a silly little sod with multipal personality disorders. The other is well our resident Jew hating muzi l wouldnt mind him so much but its the hating world domination for islam and the blindness to the misery that the religion of perminant offence causes to millions.

[Vincent]

You are exactly right but you have to understand that money talks and the jews have all the money in the U.S and also a lot of political power. They really think they are the "chosen ones". yeah, right! I am atheist but former Roman Catholic and all I see is that to those of you that still believe in "jesus" you should be pissed at the jews because they are the ones who insisted that jesus be killed - again, it was politically motivated. The U.S. is owned and operated by the fucking jews and that's why we back Isreal in their theft of land from Palestinians and also their continued arrogant theft of the Gaza Strip and the West bank. Ebem the Brits were smart enough to try to keep them out of Palestinian land after WWII. There were even armed conflicts between the Brits and the jews as they "invaded" current day isreal. The U.S. should wise up and stop backing these thieving terrorists.

[MUQ]

Vincent wrote:

You are exactly right but you have to understand that money talks and the jews have all the money in the U.S and also a lot of political power. They really think they are the "chosen ones". yeah, right! I am atheist but former Roman Catholic and all I see is that to those of you that still believe in "jesus" you should be pissed at the jews because they are the ones who insisted that jesus be killed - again, it was politically motivated. The U.S. is owned and operated by the fucking jews and that's why we back Isreal in their theft of land from Palestinians and also their continued arrogant theft of the Gaza Strip and the West bank. Ebem the Brits were smart enough to try to keep them out of Palestinian land after WWII. There were even armed conflicts between the Brits and the jews as they "invaded" current day isreal. The U.S. should wise up and stop backing these thieving terrorists.

Don't you "pity" the Christians?

In the beginning they hanged "Their Lord and Master"

And in the end days they have Christians "licking their boots and asking for pardon and forgiveness for their past "rude" behaviour"!!

Vow, Simply Vow!!

[holypygone]

you guys get a life and stop with your politics. None of you have any idea what is going on in the world.Smoke,drink and watch your games.

[w wman uk]

MUQ wrote:

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Don't you "pity" the Christians?
In the beginning they hanged "Their Lord and Master"
And in the end days they have Christians "licking their boots and asking for pardon and forgiveness for their past "rude" behaviour"!!
Vow, Simply Vow!!

Yet another wet dream mug ? That poor slave women that got her head cut off probably asked for pardon and mercy and a fair trial from the saudi murhumna . The hundred+ that were killed in murhumnastan yesterday would have asked for mercy from the murhumna that set the bombs. There crime being a differant type of murhumna from the bombers its oh so islamic. Who should we beg forgiveness from oh great prophet mug, allah the arssole that permits his most devoted followers to kill each other with glee. mohamed the pedophile or the iman or arsholla. The problem for people like the islamic extreeemists have shown their hand to soon and most people in the west know the is no dealing with murhumna.

[MUQ]

w wman uk wrote:

<quoted text>Yet another wet dream mug ? That poor slave women that got her head cut off probably asked for pardon and mercy and a fair trial from the saudi murhumna . The hundred+ that were killed in murhumnastan yesterday would have asked for mercy from the murhumna that set the bombs. There crime being a differant type of murhumna from the bombers its oh so islamic. Who should we beg forgiveness from oh great prophet mug, allah the arssole that permits his most devoted followers to kill each other with glee. mohamed the pedophile or the iman or arsholla. The problem for people like the islamic extreeemists have shown their hand to soon and most people in the west know the is no dealing with murhumna.

Why you do not worry about your own "pitiable" condition and worry about Saudi Arabia?

Don't you see Church and Pope "apologising" to jews again and again about the "poor treatment they gave to these jews over past 2000 years".

Worry more about your own past than worry about Saudi Arabia. I think you have no not done enough boot licking of these Jews.

[MUQ]

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An American Legacy: Her Deadly Warriors-in-Chief

By Gary Brumback (contd.)

5. Global enticements. Globalization is the contemporary euphemism for imperialism. The globe is one giant opportunity for market expansion, resource exploitation and political manipulation. The prospect of installing or protecting dictatorships in the pretext of spreading and defending freedom is just too much of a temptation for CEOs and U.S. presidents alike to resist. The duplicitous and hypocritical Ike with his farewell address warning of the very military industrial complex over which he had presided was a supreme master of secret military operations carried out by the CIA to replace democratically elected presidents with dictators who protected corporate investments and operations and opened up for them rich resources like oil and minerals.

6. The powerful corpocracy. The first five circumstantial factors are all part and parcel of this sixth one, the powerful corpocracy. It took me about 10 years to study and then write a book about what the corpocracy is, what it does, and how it can be ended and democracy reclaimed.6 A U.S. president is a member of the corpocracy and is influenced by it, especially when it comes to making decisions about military interventions.

Are grave-sending U.S. presidents surrogate murderers?

A murder happens when someone is killed intentionally. A surrogate is someone acting on the behalf of someone else. If you accept these definitions, does it not follow that the making and selling of murderous weapons and the authorization by agents at the highest levels of government of the use of those weapons is a form of surrogate murder? And if men, women and children not targeted for killing but killed as part of the “collateral damage,” is that not a form of involuntary homicide or manslaughter?

Is any war just?

President Obama’s chief antiterrorism advisor confidently claimed in a speech April 30, 2012 at the Woodrow Wilson International Center that the president’s drone strikes were ethical, wise, and efficacious. 7 I think anyone with any conscience could easily refute him point by point, so I did in an article I wrote as soon as I read the transcript of his speech. 8

But to refute the claim made by many authorities that war can be just (their wars in particular) requires not only my bone-deep conviction that no war can be just but also in my summarizing what I think are irrefutable arguments for it. I will not summarize the arguments for a just war. They are rooted in philosophical and theological thinking and all amount to moral rationalizations. Throughout history religion has been an instigator, accessory, or silent accomplice of one war or other cruelty after another. If I had to align my thinking with any religious figure it would be with Erasmus, an early sixteenth century monk. War, he said, was “repugnant to nature,” and noted that no one had “ever heard of a hundred thousand animals rushing together to butcher each other, as men do everywhere.” 9

[The Advocate]

MUQ wrote:

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Why you do not worry about your own "pitiable" condition and worry about Saudi Arabia?
Don't you see Church and Pope "apologising" to jews again and again about the "poor treatment they gave to these jews over past 2000 years".
Worry more about your own past than worry about Saudi Arabia. I think you have no not done enough boot licking of these Jews.

I really cannot fathom as to why you believe all these conspiracy theories about people licking our boots. But, I guess that's your prerogative (even if you have a boot fetish or something like that)

[MUQ]

The Advocate wrote:

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I really cannot fathom as to why you believe all these conspiracy theories about people licking our boots. But, I guess that's your prerogative (even if you have a boot fetish or something like that)

Is there ANY OTHER community for which there is a law like Anti Semitism?

Is there ANY OTHER people to whom the Pope and Archbishop have offered any apology?

Do not Christian need to apologize to Muslims for starting the Crusade wars?

Does not USA need to apologize to people of Iraq for invading their country on false charges in 2003?

But we see a different approach from Western people when they deal with Jews and when the deal with Muslims.

How come these six million people got so much power and influence that every European country looks the "other way" when we start discussing the atrocities these Jews and committing in Palestine and elsewhere in ME?

Conspiracy is the mildest term that I can use, if I use Rough Language, I can say that they have USA and Europe by their "balls and curlies"!!

[ocxz]

MUQ wrote:

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Is there ANY OTHER community for which there is a law like Anti Semitism?
Is there ANY OTHER people to whom the Pope and Archbishop have offered any apology?
Do not Christian need to apologize to Muslims for starting the Crusade wars?
Does not USA need to apologize to people of Iraq for invading their country on false charges in 2003?
But we see a different approach from Western people when they deal with Jews and when the deal with Muslims.
How come these six million people got so much power and influence that every European country looks the "other way" when we start discussing the atrocities these Jews and committing in Palestine and elsewhere in ME?
Conspiracy is the mildest term that I can use, if I use Rough Language, I can say that they have USA and Europe by their "balls and curlies"!!

Agreed.

[w wman uk]

MUQ wrote:

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Why you do not worry about your own "pitiable" condition and worry about Saudi Arabia?
Don't you see Church and Pope "apologising" to jews again and again about the "poor treatment they gave to these jews over past 2000 years".
Worry more about your own past than worry about Saudi Arabia. I think you have no not done enough boot licking of these Jews.

What with this licking thing mug? Is it an islamic custom? Or is it the repressed homosexial thing coming out. Its nice of you to take time off from beating your wife to post garbage here. You cant worry about the past its gone never to return. Or is your solution to turn back to the mohamidan cult invented by the proven lier theif murderer and pedophile mohamed? Whoes suporters are gleefully murdering each other on a daily basis.