Why pakis(PUNJABIS) worse looking than PATHANS /AFGHANS?

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#1 Mar 20, 2011
Pakistanis(PUNJABIS) are cross breed of indians mixed with arabs and afghans. Their ancestral mothers had to face mass chudai with the lunds of Arabs and Afghan/Pathans.
That is why they have some faces(HOOKED NOSE & FAIR SKIN COLOR) like those of Afghans/Pathans and Arabs.But still, lots of them look like Indian faces(STRAIGHT NOSE & BROWN SKIN COLOR). For example--
Wasim Akram ( PATHAN type face)
Zia ul Haq(INDIAN type face)
Javed Miandad (INDIAN type face)
Pervez Musharraf( INDIAN type face).
Very sorry to know that ,your breed was not completely changed by Arabs, Afghans and Pathans.Still you produce face like Zia, Javed and Musharraf.
Adding this there are MUHAJIRs( migrated from India) also in Pakistan now further dragging your breed to more Indian type.
There is one solution, let afghans and Pathans infiltrate in Pakistan(PUNJAB). Ask them to donate their BEATY CREAM.
saba

Gurgaon, India

#2 Mar 20, 2011
i hate and want to forget the history of that period of supremacy of araba/afghans on our forefathers.
prroud PUNJABI

India

#3 Mar 21, 2011
Rajan Rajan, U R Wrong here. Pervez Musharraf is a MUHAJIR. The ugly Indian breed migrated to great pakistan from land of ugly people i.e. INDIA.
He is from DELHI.

Like Zia ul Haq and Javed Miandad, there are very few PUNJABIs in our Pakistan.
What about PATHANs, They are NAUKARs (servants) of Punjabis of Pakistan.
sameer

India

#4 Mar 21, 2011
No we punjabis are more beautriful than f-*king afghans.
Proud Pakistani

Luton, UK

#7 Mar 25, 2011
These three are Muhajirs and came from India prior to 1947. This is why they have Indian type faces.
Zia ul Haq(INDIAN type face)
Javed Miandad (INDIAN type face)
Pervez Musharraf( INDIAN type face).

Pathans and Punjabis are both great, both Pakistani heros. But Punjabis, Potharis and Kashmiris are Indo Aryan. Pathans are actually Eastern Iranians that have lived within Indo Aryan peoples. This is why they look Turkish/Iranian/Mongol.

There is very little Pathan or Arab contribution to Pakistani Punjabis. We are just Indo Aryans that converted to a more advanced religion (Islam)when the Iranian Turk Mughals & Pathans conquered all of South Asia.
rajan

Delhi, India

#8 Mar 25, 2011
To PROUD PUNJABI,

Why some of your people have small round oblique TURKISH type eyes as cricketrs RAZZAK and SHOAB MALIK have? Why some of U have hook shaped Nosee)(SEMTIC type)as WASIM AKRAM has.
You said as follows:
"We are just Indo Aryans that converted to a more advanced religion (Islam)when the Iranian Turk Mughals & Pathans conquered all of South Asia."

Thanx,U yourself admitted the truth that YOU ARE C C MUSLIMs(conquered and converted Muslims).But you hid the fact, how your breed was impured by ARABs/AFGHANs/TURKs that forced you to convert to conqueror's religion. You further started fcuking your cousins and so made yourself fall from pious status of Hinduism.

I am very happy to know that U admit and feel proud to belong HINDU(Indo Aryan) roots.
Come back to your own ARYA DHARMA. Read GAYATRI MANTRA, recite JAPUJI SAHIB. Learn Sanskrit, Learn Punjabi in GURUMUKHI.

ARYA SAMAJ of India will help U purify to get back into ARYA VEDIC DHARMA.

First recite with me GAYATRI MANTRA-

"Om Bhurbhuvah Swah Tatsavitur Varenyam,Bhargo Daivasya Dhimahy Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodyat".

Be true ARYA and true Indian.
Proud Pakistani

Luton, UK

#10 Apr 2, 2011
Pakistanis are generally Indo Aryan. Although there is Turk/Mongol/Pathan/Baluch contribution, Arab contribution & Macedonian contribution.

We converted to Islam because its the word of Allah who is the one creator of everything (the universe & everything within it).

The whole of South Asia was conquered by outsiders. And North Indian Hindus were brownnosing with the conquerors with the perverted dance routines. All the wives of the conquerors were North Indian.

Long Nose is an Aryan feature along with tall heights. How are you a Arya Samaj Warrior when you are not even aware of Aryan features?

Indians mixed with Aborigines and this mixation also formed Hinduism. Therefore Hinduism is not a requirement to be Indo Aryan and not even wholly Indo Aryan. Indo Aryans originally had no religion. Therefore Indo Aryans can be of any religion.

The requirement is Indo Aryan features and lineage. You must have Indo Aryan features to be an Indo Aryan.

So to be an Aryan you do not need to be a Hindu.

You see the Pakistan Army is an Indo Aryan army but its a Muslim Indo Aryan Army. We Pakistanis are Indo Aryans and Muslims.

While you can read the Mantras and be an Indo Aryan Hindu. Thatís your choice.
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#11 Apr 2, 2011
"Rajan" is a crazy pyscho jealous Indian.

He is jealous of Pakistani Punjabis. He has been making similiar comments (like those ones posted above), all over the Topix forums.

Punjabis and Pathans dont look the same. Punjabis and Pathans dont have the same facial features.

Pakistani Punjabis are naturally fair skinned, because of our geographic location and climate. We did not mix with Invaders. Punjabis are very much into segregation, and only marry with in our own clans/tribes. We rarely marry non-Punjabis.

Indians are jealous of Pakistani Punjabis, so they always have to spread fake propoganda about Punjabis by saying "Punjabis are raped and mixed with Invaders".

These Indians are jealous of Pakistani Punjabis, because most Indians look like Australian Abrogines with their gorilla facial features.
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#12 Apr 2, 2011
Punjabis are NOT mixed with Afghans, Arabs, or Turks.
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#13 Apr 2, 2011
Proud Pakistani wrote:
Pakistanis are generally Indo Aryan. Although there is Turk/Mongol/Pathan/Baluch contribution, Arab contribution & Macedonian contribution.
We converted to Islam because its the word of Allah who is the one creator of everything (the universe & everything within it).
The whole of South Asia was conquered by outsiders. And North Indian Hindus were brownnosing with the conquerors with the perverted dance routines. All the wives of the conquerors were North Indian.
Long Nose is an Aryan feature along with tall heights. How are you a Arya Samaj Warrior when you are not even aware of Aryan features?
Indians mixed with Aborigines and this mixation also formed Hinduism. Therefore Hinduism is not a requirement to be Indo Aryan and not even wholly Indo Aryan. Indo Aryans originally had no religion. Therefore Indo Aryans can be of any religion.
The requirement is Indo Aryan features and lineage. You must have Indo Aryan features to be an Indo Aryan.
So to be an Aryan you do not need to be a Hindu.
You see the Pakistan Army is an Indo Aryan army but its a Muslim Indo Aryan Army. We Pakistanis are Indo Aryans and Muslims.
While you can read the Mantras and be an Indo Aryan Hindu. Thatís your choice.
Punjabis and Sindhis have been Muslim before Afghans and Turks were Muslims. Punjabis and Sindhis became Muslim during Mohammed Bin Qasim's Invasion of Punjab and Sindh.
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#14 Apr 2, 2011
saba wrote:
i hate and want to forget the history of that period of supremacy of araba/afghans on our forefathers.
Arabs only conquered south Punjab, The Arabs were stopped at south Punjab, and defeated by Punjabis.

Afghans were also ruled by Punjabis. Ranjit Singh ruled on Afghans.

Ghauri (An Afghan warrior) was defeated and killed by Punjabis.

Genghis Khan's Mongol Army was defeated by Punjabis.

The Mughals had a tough time trying to keep a hold onto Punjabis.

Punjabis have been conqured and we dont deny that. But Punjabis are also historically known as great warriors and for bravery.

LONG LIVE PUNJABIS - PUNJABI PRIDE.
desi

Dagenham, UK

#15 Apr 2, 2011
what does it matter. look at high caste hindus they do not look like south indian dravidians but more closer to pakistanis. look at sanjay dutt, sunil dutt, dharmendra, hema malini they all look pakistani not south indian dravidian. same as kashmiri hindus are light skinned same as muslim kashmiris they even have same family names. north indian hindus and muslims share family names and blood. punjabi hindus, sikhs have same family name as pakistani punjabi people.

yes we were one people but because of religious bigotry we got divided question do we want to continue this or look to future.
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#16 Apr 2, 2011
desi wrote:
what does it matter. look at high caste hindus they do not look like south indian dravidians but more closer to pakistanis. look at sanjay dutt, sunil dutt, dharmendra, hema malini they all look pakistani not south indian dravidian. same as kashmiri hindus are light skinned same as muslim kashmiris they even have same family names. north indian hindus and muslims share family names and blood. punjabi hindus, sikhs have same family name as pakistani punjabi people.
yes we were one people but because of religious bigotry we got divided question do we want to continue this or look to future.
The high caste Hindus are a minority in India.

I dont know what you mean by "we were one people". This is BS which all Indians say.

Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis may have been one people, but what about the rest of you Indians? You people are not the brothers and sisters of us Punjabis.

The British army responsible for invading Punjab was made up of Bengali, Marathis, and south Indians. You Indians invaded our pure Punjabi land. Dont you dare say "we were one pople". That's an insult to my ancestors.

India was created in 1947. Before 1947 a country called "India" did not exist.
desi

Dagenham, UK

#17 Apr 2, 2011
Proud Punjabi wrote:
<quoted text>
The high caste Hindus are a minority in India.
I dont know what you mean by "we were one people". This is BS which all Indians say.
Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis may have been one people, but what about the rest of you Indians? You people are not the brothers and sisters of us Punjabis.
The British army responsible for invading Punjab was made up of Bengali, Marathis, and south Indians. You Indians invaded our pure Punjabi land. Dont you dare say "we were one pople". That's an insult to my ancestors.
India was created in 1947. Before 1947 a country called "India" did not exist.
Its not bullshit go ask your family your tribe name and you will find same tribe people in India Punjab.

if there are Gill sikhs there are Gill muslim punjabis if there are sidhu sikhs then there are sidhu muslim punjabis this is fact same goes for rajput people in pakistan have their relatives in india same for gujjars of pak same as gujjars of india and Jatts all same tribe people. but yes pakistani people have more mixing with foreign muslims but still retain their old family names .
rajan

India

#18 Apr 2, 2011
To Proud Pakistani and Punjabi,
As per Vedas and other books the terms 'ARYA','DASUE' and 'ASOOR',were never used in racial context. Here ARYA meant GOOD THOUGHTs and DASUE & ASOOR meant EVIL THOUGHTs & ABODEs.

MEANING OF 'ASOOR'(as dark abodes)in context of VEDAs---
Those who do not follow the path to God,are actually ruining themselves. Read the verse from Isopnisad( YajurVada)---

"ASOOR YA NAAM TAY LOKA (abodes named as Asoor) ANDHAIN TAMAS AVRITA (surrounded by blindness & darkness), TAAN TAY PRAITYA ABHIGACHANTY(they enter there after passing away) YAY KAY CHA ATMAHANA JANA(those who are self ruining people)".
Its meaning is----
" There are abodes named as ASOOR which are surrounded by blindness( ignorance) and darkness(unrest & sorrows). Those who ruin themselves enter there after passing away".
Thus, the abodes with blindness & darkness are termed as 'ASOOR',the destiny to self ruining people.

MEANING OF DASUE(as evil thoughts that ruin one)--
The bad inclinations & evil thoughts are real enemies of a person which cause self destruction after obstructing the path to God.
Read the verse from Rig Veda about such enemy thoughts----
"AKERMA(non dutiful) DASUE(evil thoughts) ABHY NO(assault us) AMANTOO(non considerate) ANYAVRATO(away from austerity) AMANUSHA(non human)".
It means-------
"Non dutiful ,non considerate, apart from austerity & non human enemy thoughts( Dasues) attack us."
Thus, such bad inclinations are termed as 'Dasues',the real enemy of a person which cause self ruin of a person.The bad thoughts are also termed as 'Dasas'.

MEANING OF ARYA(as good thoughts)----
To transform these thoughts into divine thoughts ,read the verse from Rig Veda----
" AA(get ) SANYATEM(endeavour) INDRA(God) NO(us) SWASTIM(fortune) SHATRUTURYAY(to fight enemy ) BRIHTIM(great) AMRIDHAM(indefatigable),
YAYA(through which) DASANY(bad thoughts) ARYANY(good thoughts) VRITRA(surrounding thoughts) KARO(do transform) VAJRIN(mighty God) SUTUKA(affectionate) NAHUSANY(friendly)".
It means--
"O God! Get us great endeavour , fortune and indefatigable qualities to fight evil thought enemies.
O Mighty God! Through these qualities transform these bad surrounding thoughts (Dasas) into good thoughts (Aryas) which we may find find affectionate and friendly."

Thus, we need to pray to God & seek his help for the transformation of these evil thoughts
termed as 'Dasas or Dasues' into good thoughts termed as 'Aryas', so that we may progress on the right path to GOD after avoiding blind & dark hell (the abode named as Asoor).
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#19 Apr 3, 2011
desi wrote:
<quoted text>Its not bullshit go ask your family your tribe name and you will find same tribe people in India Punjab.
if there are Gill sikhs there are Gill muslim punjabis if there are sidhu sikhs then there are sidhu muslim punjabis this is fact same goes for rajput people in pakistan have their relatives in india same for gujjars of pak same as gujjars of india and Jatts all same tribe people. but yes pakistani people have more mixing with foreign muslims but still retain their old family names .
No, Pakistani Muslims are not mixed with foreign Muslims. It's just that Punjabi Muslims are better looking, smarter, and stronger than Punjabi Sikhs and Hindus.

Pakistani Punjabis are related to Indian Punjabis. But Pakistani Punjabis are not related to non-Punjabi Indians. I mean Punjabis are not the same as Gujaratis, Tamils, Bengalis, Marathis, ect.
Proud Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#20 Apr 3, 2011
The Rig Vedic Aryans were not Hindus (Idol Worshippers). The Rig vedic Aryans were nature worshippers.

Rajan,

You are an illiterate and a racist, and I do not wish to waste my time by arguing with you.
rajan

New Delhi, India

#21 Apr 3, 2011
MALECHHAs have spread misinformation about Vedas and Aryas. You(as a MALECHHA) are also spreading misinformation about Vedas and ARYAs.

We know about our text better than you MALECHHAs.

'ARYA' in context of Vedas never meant as any racial term.
It means 'one who is directed towards good values'.

Our country was named as ARYAVARTA.

Actually once upon a time non believing evil minded inhabitants of ARYAVARTA were expelled from ARYAVARTA.
When they migrated to other countries they called themselves as ARYANs( means from ARYAVARTA). That is why, outside India the word ARYAN might have become an ethnicity.

WEST ASIAN ISLAMICs---
Long nose is actually characteristic of SEMITIC race. Those migrated people from ARYAVARTA intermingled with SEMITIC race and constituted as WEST ASIANs having similar features due to long intermingling.
You know ARABs/JEWs(known as SEMITIC race) and IRANIANs(known as INDO EUROPEAN people) constitute WEST ASIAN ISLAMIC CULTURE and they look alike with long nose.

EUROPEAN CHRISTIANs----
In Europe those migrating ARYAVARTIANs(ARyans) intermingled with extremely white local ESKIMO type race and constituted as extremely white EUROPEANs having similar features due to intermingling.
FINNs(known as URALIC race) and ENGLISH/GERMAN(known as INDO EUROPEAN people) constitute EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN CULTURE and they look alike with very light skin/hair tone.

INDIAN HINDUs--
SIMILARLY,SOUTH INDIANs(known as DRAVIDIANs) and NORTH INDIANs(known as INDO EUROPEAN people)
constitute INDIAN HINDU CULTURE and we look alike with brown to dark skin tone.
Since time immemorial ,we have been single culture with our dark skinned icons( RAM,KRISHNA & VISNOO).
In our temples at BADRINATH, DWARKA, VENKATESH and JAGANNATH, our God is dark with typical INDIAN LOOK.

YOU PUNJABIs(Pakistanis) actually somewhere between WEST ASIAN LOOK and INDIAN LOOK. This is a realty. Every one including yourself actually know the fact.
sujan

Delhi, India

#22 Apr 3, 2011
Aryan Non Aryan divide(as designed by Europeans) is a myth.
Proud Pakistani

Luton, UK

#23 Apr 4, 2011
Proud Punjabi,
True the Arab invasions spread Islam in Present day Pakistan before Afghan-Turks.

Rajan,

Sanskrit is an Arya language and Vedas authorship is also Arya. But the writings indicate a Arya people entering a Dravidian land and mixing with their ideas. Most likely to survive in the Indo land.

Iranians/Afghans look like Mongols, pale skin and Mongoloid features and some look like Arab/Jew or Mediterraneans. Very little like Pakistanis or Indians.

Its because working class Indian Indo-Aryans mixed with Dravidian peoples and lost many of their Aryan features.

While the high castes such as Brahmins/Parsis in India did not mix with Dravidians. These Brahmins and Parsis are almost identical to Pakistanis. Proof of Arya race. Even our languages are similar.

The Pakistanis, Punjabis and Brahmin Indians are the Arya race.

Desi,
Spot on analysis. North India and Pakistanis should not fight, we should both be successful.

I also think we should all help Kashmir and give them the right to pick their future. This is an Arya issue and could unite the Indo Aryans. Maybe it is fate.

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