Why PUNJABIs(Pakistanis) hate their ETHNICITY?

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rajan

India

#1 Apr 2, 2011
Many PUNJABIs(Pakistanis)have got typical PASHTUN like physical and facial features. Lots of PUNJABIs(Pakistanis) have typical INDIAN like feature also.
As a matter of fact average PUNJABI(Pakistani) look lies somewhere between PATHAN and INDIAN look. But they want to hijack & portray
typical PATHAN/AFGHAN type look(as WASIM AKRAM has)as typical PUNJABI(Pakistani)look. They try to hide,suppress and even make lies about their having typical INDIAN LOOK also.
For example, once a PUNJABI(Pakistani) disowned even ZIA UL HAQ(with Indian look) as being a MUHAJIR.
It is strange that they reject,disown and hate their own people on account of look.
Why do they hate their ethnicity?
Aman

Sudbury, Canada

#6 Apr 18, 2011
Wow "Alexander the Great"... I'm ashamed to live within 50km's of you. If you have nothing positive to contribute, you probably should just go and hate somewhere else. May I suggest in front of a mirror?
abc

Walnut Creek, CA

#7 May 4, 2011
you know most punjabi's are in india and not pakistan and in general hate pakistani's right?
Psyco

Europe

#8 May 5, 2011
Alexander the Great wrote:
<quoted text>Thats because you turdskins are all white wannabes. You can't fathom the fact that your race is a butt ugly, darkie one. You cook up stories about your kind being related to the white race.
Thats why you hate any one of your own kind who has typical Indian physical traits. Which is not related to white caucasians by any stretch of imagination.
this problem is relates to only pakis due to islam but indian ppls know who r they and there culture. Indian dont give a sHiT to white ppls
Pakistani Punjabi

Bolton, UK

#10 May 18, 2011
Pakistai Punjabis dont look like Pashtuns.

We have different facial features from Pashtuns, and plus; Punjabis are generally more tanned skin than Pashtuns.
Pinddikuri

Fremont, CA

#11 Aug 17, 2011
ABC you know that you don't know about geography and don't know about the ethnic make up of Pakistan and India right? Next you'll be saying there are no Sindhis in India. Once upon a time pre-1947 India and Pakistan were one country, then a white people came and split it up. Unless all the non-Hindu and Sikh Punjabis got uplifited in a spaceship. You fail geography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_people Oh look the vast majority live in Pakistan! dun dun duuun.
LOL Punjabis tend to look like Indian Punjabis because we're the same ethnically, the only that divides us is our nationality (Indian/Pakistan) and we don't hate our ethnicity, Punjabis are the first ones to tell people they are Punjabi for some reason, and we seem to be very proud of the fact. Ask any person in Karachi and they will tell you how much they hate us and most Punjabis tend to hate Pathans anyway.
I know my family in the pind are always complaining about them, which is stupid. But desis like hating.
Pinddikuri

Fremont, CA

#12 Aug 17, 2011
Also most Punjabis in Pakistan side are mixed like Punjabis in India. I've met a lot of light skinned sardars who look exactly like Punjabi Muslims I know. All the women look the same to me, so IDK.

Also not all Pathans are light skinned, I've met people who were darker than some Punjabis or Mohajirs, it's just the typical Afghani Pusthoon look that most people regard as being Pathani.

I know people from Peshawar who look just like most Punjabis on both sides of the border.
Pakistani

Manchester, UK

#13 Sep 8, 2011
Pinddikuri wrote:
ABC you know that you don't know about geography and don't know about the ethnic make up of Pakistan and India right? Next you'll be saying there are no Sindhis in India. Once upon a time pre-1947 India and Pakistan were one country, then a white people came and split it up. Unless all the non-Hindu and Sikh Punjabis got uplifited in a spaceship. You fail geography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_people Oh look the vast majority live in Pakistan! dun dun duuun.
LOL Punjabis tend to look like Indian Punjabis because we're the same ethnically, the only that divides us is our nationality (Indian/Pakistan) and we don't hate our ethnicity, Punjabis are the first ones to tell people they are Punjabi for some reason, and we seem to be very proud of the fact. Ask any person in Karachi and they will tell you how much they hate us and most Punjabis tend to hate Pathans anyway.
I know my family in the pind are always complaining about them, which is stupid. But desis like hating.
Pakistan and India were never "one Country". Before the British arrived in South Asia, South Asia was a region with empires ruling among themselves, not a single nation.

As far as this topic is concerned: Pakistani Punjabis vary in skintone/physical appearance. There are fair skinned Punjabis, and brown skinned Punjabis. What's the big deal, and why would you even start a Topic about such a non-issue?

I wouldn't say Punjabis resemble Pathans nor do we resemble Indians either. Pakistani Punjabis have our own distinctive appearance, culture, history, customs, cuisine, ect.
shouldnt muzz

Delhi, India

#14 Sep 8, 2011
Pakistani wrote:
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Pakistan and India were never "one Country". Before the British arrived in South Asia, South Asia was a region with empires ruling among themselves, not a single nation.
As far as this topic is concerned: Pakistani Punjabis vary in skintone/physical appearance. There are fair skinned Punjabis, and brown skinned Punjabis. What's the big deal, and why would you even start a Topic about such a non-issue?
I wouldn't say Punjabis resemble Pathans nor do we resemble Indians either. Pakistani Punjabis have our own distinctive appearance, culture, history, customs, cuisine, ect.
actually you are cross breed of weak hindu mother and cruel arab father
Aryaveeran

Hyderabad, India

#15 Sep 8, 2011
To fully understand the answer to this question you have to understand the history of the subcontinent first. Punjab and NWFP lie on the border of two great cultures: Indian and Iranian.

Indo-Aryans and Iranians were part of one single tribe once part of a single civilization called the "Andronovo culture" (Google to find out more). But then they separated due to some differences.

The Iranians went to Iran and established the Avestan civilization, later merging with local tribes and finally evolving into Persian, Afghan and other groups. The Indo-Aryans arrived in the Indian subcontinent and merged with Dravidians and other tribes to some extent, evolving into the Indic (brown-skinned) ethnic group.

The natural border that separates the Indian and Iranian-Afghan cultures is River Indus. Naturally, the areas lying near Indus witness some of the greatest clashes between these two cultures. Punjab and NWFP are such two regions. The battles often end with loot and rapes, so these regions have witnessed several such cases.

The NWFP mostly contains people born out of Afghan-Iranian women who were raped by the invading Indic people. On the other hand, the Punjab region mostly contains the people born out of Indic mothers, who were raped by the Afghan-Iran invaders. For this reason, the Pashtuns living in Pakistan have somewhat browner skin compared to the pure-bred Afghans/Persians, and the Punjabis are a shade less browner than rest of the Indians.

Naturally, the children born out of rapes have some psychological difficulties in coming to terms with their own identities. This difficulty often manifests in form of self-hatred ("I hate my ethnicity") or superiority complex ("V Punjabis R Da Best!!! Everybody else is gay1!!").

I think it's important for the pure-bred Afghan/Iranians and Indians to treat Punjabis (and NWFP Pashtuns) nicely. We should not make fun of them, but rather have sympathy with them and treat them nicely. They might be born out of raped generations, but they're human beings just like us. They need are love and support.
Jittey

Putrajaya, Malaysia

#16 Sep 8, 2011
Pakistani wrote:
<quoted text>
Pakistan and India were never "one Country". Before the British arrived in South Asia, South Asia was a region with empires ruling among themselves, not a single nation.
As far as this topic is concerned: Pakistani Punjabis vary in skintone/physical appearance. There are fair skinned Punjabis, and brown skinned Punjabis. What's the big deal, and why would you even start a Topic about such a non-issue?
I wouldn't say Punjabis resemble Pathans nor do we resemble Indians either. Pakistani Punjabis have our own distinctive appearance, culture, history, customs, cuisine, ect.
He is trying to say that looking like "indians' mean looking like "TAMIL DRAVIDIAN HINDUS" . So thats why these Indians think they have this absolute power over people like you.

Bcos being Indian means looking like a dravidian, and shaking..wobbling ..wobbling your head from left to right everytime u talk.
Pakistani

Manchester, UK

#17 Sep 8, 2011
Aryaveeran wrote:
To fully understand the answer to this question you have to understand the history of the subcontinent first. Punjab and NWFP lie on the border of two great cultures: Indian and Iranian.
Indo-Aryans and Iranians were part of one single tribe once part of a single civilization called the "Andronovo culture" (Google to find out more). But then they separated due to some differences.
The Iranians went to Iran and established the Avestan civilization, later merging with local tribes and finally evolving into Persian, Afghan and other groups. The Indo-Aryans arrived in the Indian subcontinent and merged with Dravidians and other tribes to some extent, evolving into the Indic (brown-skinned) ethnic group.
The natural border that separates the Indian and Iranian-Afghan cultures is River Indus. Naturally, the areas lying near Indus witness some of the greatest clashes between these two cultures. Punjab and NWFP are such two regions. The battles often end with loot and rapes, so these regions have witnessed several such cases.
The NWFP mostly contains people born out of Afghan-Iranian women who were raped by the invading Indic people. On the other hand, the Punjab region mostly contains the people born out of Indic mothers, who were raped by the Afghan-Iran invaders. For this reason, the Pashtuns living in Pakistan have somewhat browner skin compared to the pure-bred Afghans/Persians, and the Punjabis are a shade less browner than rest of the Indians.
Naturally, the children born out of rapes have some psychological difficulties in coming to terms with their own identities. This difficulty often manifests in form of self-hatred ("I hate my ethnicity") or superiority complex ("V Punjabis R Da Best!!! Everybody else is gay1!!").
I think it's important for the pure-bred Afghan/Iranians and Indians to treat Punjabis (and NWFP Pashtuns) nicely. We should not make fun of them, but rather have sympathy with them and treat them nicely. They might be born out of raped generations, but they're human beings just like us. They need are love and support.
Inferiorty complex much? Where is the proof Punjabis descend from rapes? You filthy, perverted-minded freak. Pakistani Punjabis don't need sympathy from you.
Jittey

Putrajaya, Malaysia

#18 Sep 8, 2011
shouldnt muzz wrote:
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actually you are cross breed of weak hindu mother and cruel arab father
Yes u are right my hindu brother. My mother, your mother and the mother of Tamils are all the same. We are all one race. We are all Hindus.
Jittey

Putrajaya, Malaysia

#19 Sep 8, 2011
Pakistani wrote:
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Inferiorty complex much? Where is the proof Punjabis descend from rapes? You filthy, perverted-minded freak. Pakistani Punjabis don't need sympathy from you.
RSS and Shiva Sena has provided the proof that all Punjabis and Pakistanis are descendants of rapes and its all written all over in our newspapers. All INDIANS know this. Dravidians are our mothers. Haryanvis, Rajputs, Gujratis are all Dravidians and also Karishma Kapoor and Hrithik Roshan.
Pakistani

Manchester, UK

#20 Sep 8, 2011
Jittey wrote:
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RSS and Shiva Sena has provided the proof that all Punjabis and Pakistanis are descendants of rapes and its all written all over in our newspapers. All INDIANS know this. Dravidians are our mothers. Haryanvis, Rajputs, Gujratis are all Dravidians and also Karishma Kapoor and Hrithik Roshan.
Karishma Kapoor and Hrithik Roshan are ethnic Punjabis, they both have their roots in the modern-day Pakistan. Hritck's father is a Punjabi from Gujranwala, Karishma Kapoor's family have their roots in Faislabad.

I personally feel sorry for Indians. I will try my best not to insult their sensitive, inferiorty-complex ridden feelings.
Jittey

Putrajaya, Malaysia

#21 Sep 9, 2011
Pakistani wrote:
<quoted text>
Karishma Kapoor and Hrithik Roshan are ethnic Punjabis, they both have their roots in the modern-day Pakistan. Hritck's father is a Punjabi from Gujranwala, Karishma Kapoor's family have their roots in Faislabad.
I personally feel sorry for Indians. I will try my best not to insult their sensitive, inferiorty-complex ridden feelings.
So what do you mean now.? Roshan and the Kapoors were not raped by the Arabs and Persians..? Well I think you are wrong, Kapoors and Roshans are just Indians like us, the Dravidians.
awestruck

Markham, Canada

#22 Oct 4, 2011
i dont understand why first of all a non punjabi cares so much...whats eating you? seriously...why is it that people are so intrigued by other peoples' self interest or not... who cares where people got their genes... we look better.. you don't, so what? live with it asshole...truly, as an indian punjabi im astounded at the ridiculousness of my so-called brethren when it comes to nationality. Damn straight I'm proud to be Punjabi...does that mean my ancestors were raped? can you seriously look at your genome and say you had inbreeding to get you where you are today... if thats the case then please, I welcome the cross variation in my genome so my kids won't catch a recessive disease and die... this is what makes me want to marry outside of Hinduism, and especially to a non-indian... the stupidity (for a country known for brain drain with its elite intellectuals) is beyond belief.
alikhan

Europe

#23 Oct 11, 2011
abc wrote:
you know most punjabi's are in india and not pakistan and in general hate pakistani's right?
check your facts
Surya P Mahalingam

Puchong, Malaysia

#24 Oct 11, 2011
Punjabis in india prefer to call themselves INDIAN !!! We the Tamils are the Greatest Indians. Together we will form a Great Hindustan. Punjabis love Indian more than they love Pakistan. My wife is a Punjabi, and she is a True Hindu just like me. We Hindus are all ONE race. We Hindus are the most intelligent people in the world. Until today no one has denied my claim .
PunjabifromPakis tan

Anonymous Proxy

#25 Nov 7, 2011
abc wrote:
you know most punjabi's are in india and not pakistan and in general hate pakistani's right?
er.... you do you know most of the worlds Punjabis are in Pakistan and in general are cooler than you right? There are 76 million plus Punjabis in Pakistani combared to the 29+ plus in India. Someone failed maths class, next you'll be saying India has more Sindhis than in Sindh!
Punjabis don't hate their ethnicity, most are proud of being Punjabi. Everyone else in Pakistani hates us (have a cup of chai with a Balochi or a Mohajir sometime!) but that's mainly because of our well... corrupt goverments that we tend to lead, we make up the majority of the population and a lot of people resent that too.

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