Father's age seen as crucial to baby's disease risk

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HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#2 Aug 22, 2012
Horse manure. Researchers sequencing the genomes have proved nothing. It has been a great disappointment to science. Those using the genome have been proven to be false in the past and that is the reason that little is heard from the study.

The mental health industry exaggerated and lied in every study. The mental health has no science. no medical model. no evidence based medicine and no test for chemical imbalance to which the industry admitted lying. The mental health is desperate for some science other then hearsay and was attempting to lie to the public on the issues of the study of the mapping of the genome.

Its horse manure.

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#3 Aug 22, 2012
This has little to do with the mental health industry as it more is about single largest factor in the risk of passing on new gene mutations to children. This study is about hereditary mutations, and although it may not be an answer for the majority, it could be for some and studies as such should not be discounted.
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#5 Aug 22, 2012
friend wrote:
This has little to do with the mental health industry as it more is about single largest factor in the risk of passing on new gene mutations to children. This study is about hereditary mutations, and although it may not be an answer for the majority, it could be for some and studies as such should not be discounted.
For years the mental heath made outrageous, outlandish statements including the reasons of every mental health issue including homosexually, add/adhd' u name it. There has been nothing promising from that area of science. The thrill of discovery is gone.

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#6 Aug 22, 2012
Instead of always slamming mental health, you can explain Iceland and the genome, and how they found two more new gene mutations appearing in offspring for every year of increase in a father's age has anything to do with your continuous rants about the mental health industry? Most times people do that to deflect from the relevance of such hereditary mutations because, well... it just proved them slightly wrong.
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#7 Aug 22, 2012
Friend...out of thousands..I like this the best. You are a little behind in time since the articles on the genome was spelled out in 2010 as misleading. I am surprized someone is still flinging the horse manure for profits.

The Economist

Human geneticists have reached a private crisis of conscience, and it will become public knowledge in 2010. The crisis has depressing health implications and alarming political ones. In a nutshell: the new genetics will reveal much less than hoped about how to cure disease, and much more than feared about human evolution and inequality, including genetic differences between classes, ethnicities and races.

About five years ago, genetics researchers became excited about new methods for “genome-wide association studies”(GWAS). We already knew from twin, family and adoption studies that all human traits are heritable: genetic differences explain much of the variation between individuals. We knew the genes were there; we just had to find them. Companies such as Illumina and Affymetrix produced DNA chips that allowed researchers to test up to 1m genetic variants for their statistical association with specific traits. America’s National Institutes of Health and Britain’s Wellcome Trust gave huge research grants for gene-hunting. Thousands of researchers jumped on the GWAS bandwagon. Lab groups formed and international research consortia congealed. The quantity of published GWAS research has soared.

In 2010, GWAS fever will reach its peak.

Dozens of papers will report specific genes associated with almost every imaginable trait—intelligence, personality, religiosity, sexuality, longevity, economic risk-taking, consumer preferences, leisure interests and political attitudes. The

data are already collected, with DNA samples from large populations already measured for these traits. It’s just a matter of doing the statistics and writing up the papers for Nature Genetics. The gold rush is on throughout the leading behaviour-genetics centres in London, Amsterdam, Boston, Boulder and Brisbane.

GWAS researchers will, in public, continue trumpeting their successes to science journalists and Science magazine. They will reassure Big Pharma and the grant agencies that GWAS will identify the genes that explain most of the variation in heart disease, cancer, obesity, depression, schizophrenia, Alzheimer’s and ageing itself. Those genes will illuminate the biochemical pathways underlying disease, which will yield new genetic tests and blockbuster drugs. Keep holding your breath for a golden age of health, happiness and longevity.

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They simply have not been delivering the goods.

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid...

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#9 Aug 23, 2012
I expected more rants. Try this one, and then get back to topic.
http://tizona.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/geneti...

Quote: "Only superstitious idiots fear knowledge and understanding, wherever they come down on the political spectrum."
Trump This

Winnipeg, Canada

#11 Aug 25, 2012
Applies to Iceland only. Its a small isolated inbred group and dies not represent to world.

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#12 Aug 26, 2012
So, does that mean studies done in the UK only applies to those in the UK, and not in, let's say Canada?? Or the rest of the world?? 78 families is alot more than 12, which would have more chances of inbreeding.
HumanSpirit

Gainesville, FL

#13 Aug 26, 2012
friend wrote:
I expected more rants. Try this one, and then get back to topic.
http://tizona.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/geneti...
Quote: "Only superstitious idiots fear knowledge and understanding, wherever they come down on the political spectrum."
I fear bullshit and the associated disease of lying in the sciences far more then the fear of political knowledge and understanding.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#14 Aug 26, 2012
friend wrote:
So, does that mean studies done in the UK only applies to those in the UK, and not in, let's say Canada?? Or the rest of the world?? 78 families is alot more than 12, which would have more chances of inbreeding.
Wakefield was not doing a genetic study, and actually was doing a medical intervention. His findings were observations and were reported as such. A study in Iceland though it helps control variables, remains valid for that group only, and reports that attempt to make claims it has universal applications are stretching the findings a bit much. Plus, we need other researchers to replicate their findings. Don't see that mentioned. So its unproven, hypothetical and subjective. 78 families is far too small a sample size to have significance.

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#15 Aug 26, 2012
It doesn't matter that wakefield wasn't looking at genetics or not. If you're looking at the size of the study only, a study of 12 surely is more worthless than a study of 78.
Facts are, the older women are who have children, their risk of a child with Down Syndrome is greater. The significance of this study is that it points to men having the same genetic factors as they age. It's a no brainer. Obviously, this wouldn't affect all who have autism; only anti vaxxer feel threatened by a study like this.
Another DUH Moment

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Aug 26, 2012
friend wrote:
It doesn't matter that wakefield wasn't looking at genetics or not. If you're looking at the size of the study only, a study of 12 surely is more worthless than a study of 78.
Facts are, the older women are who have children, their risk of a child with Down Syndrome is greater. The significance of this study is that it points to men having the same genetic factors as they age. It's a no brainer. Obviously, this wouldn't affect all who have autism; only anti vaxxer feel threatened by a study like this.
Wakefield was doing medical intervention, not a study. Young fathers and non-obese mothers and Icelandic and non-Icelandic have children with autism. Were the children vaccinated? We know Wakefield's patients were.

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#17 Aug 26, 2012
They don't publish 'medical interventions' in medical journals. Nice try. It was a study Wakefield did, of 12 children. It was also a fraud.

Obesity and vaccines has nothing to do with this study. Try an inherited gene.
Another DUH Moment

Winnipeg, Canada

#18 Aug 26, 2012
friend wrote:
They don't publish 'medical interventions' in medical journals. Nice try. It was a study Wakefield did, of 12 children. It was also a fraud.
Obesity and vaccines has nothing to do with this study. Try an inherited gene.
They don't put medical interventions in journals? You're kidding right? The only fraud was the prosecution of Wakefield and Professor John Walker Smith. You remember Walker Smith, the one who's conviction was reversed and called UNLAWFUL by a real judge? There's NO PROOF inherited genes cause autism, only opinions on that.

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#19 Aug 26, 2012
What there is no proof of is vaccines cause autism and why is there no study that proves it? That's right, genes. Inherited gene. The study is the proof, if you like it or not. Inherited gene.
Another DUH Moment

Winnipeg, Canada

#20 Aug 26, 2012
friend wrote:
What there is no proof of is vaccines cause autism and why is there no study that proves it? That's right, genes. Inherited gene. The study is the proof, if you like it or not. Inherited gene.
Said so youself, in predisposed children. Makes no difference, its vaccines that cause the reaction, not the genes. Hello!!

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#21 Aug 26, 2012
Sorry, the gene is the cause of that narcolepsy. It could never had happened without having that gene. Hello.
Another DUH Moment

Winnipeg, Canada

#23 Aug 27, 2012
friend wrote:
Sorry, the gene is the cause of that narcolepsy. It could never had happened without having that gene. Hello.
We can never know AFTER being vaccinated. Besides it was CONFIRMED as vaccine caused. Something about confirmed you don't comprehend?

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#24 Aug 27, 2012
It was not confirmed in this study or any other than vaccines cause autism. If there was, every anti vaxxer would be jumping up and down. That 'predisposed children' of which I mentioned was about narcolepsy brought up in another topic.

An inherited gene makes no differences to knowing anything after a vaccine. The gene was already there prior to any vaccine.
Another DUHMEISTER

Winnipeg, Canada

#25 Aug 27, 2012
friend wrote:
It was not confirmed in this study or any other than vaccines cause autism. If there was, every anti vaxxer would be jumping up and down. That 'predisposed children' of which I mentioned was about narcolepsy brought up in another topic.
An inherited gene makes no differences to knowing anything after a vaccine. The gene was already there prior to any vaccine.
No its difficult if not impossible to prove because the science isn't being done. Whats being done is genetic study meant to blame the victims. Parents have been fighting for the science to be done, but the Pharmafia and corrupt vaccine pushing health agencies are dragging their feet. Being predisposed to vaccine injury is hardly a person's fault. Vaccination is an obvious unnatural intrusion to the body and thats why it causes injury.

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