Gery

Miami, FL

#451 Dec 27, 2012
Actually Haiti was colonized by Spain before it was colonized by France. Latino has diverse meanings, one of them defines latino as any country that was colonized by a Hispanic country. In the Case of Haiti, it's Spain. And Haiti has two main languages, Creole and French. Another definition of latino is anyone whose language derived from latin. Both French and Spanish derive from latin. And also Dominicans are considered latinos while they share the same island as Haiti. It was until the French came that the island was divided.

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#452 Dec 28, 2012
Give it up people us Haitians do not classify ourselves as Latinos and neither do we want to be.
theobart

Elizabeth, NJ

#453 Jan 1, 2013
I am from Haiti. but then again, I am a Humanist, so I don't really care about this topic for I love everyone and all, that is without caring of what they , he or she think-thinks about me.....much love y'all.
nery

United States

#454 Jan 1, 2013
Republic of haiti is a Latin america country because they speak french or creole.
haitiando

Linden, NJ

#455 Jan 3, 2013
Billy, you're so right brother.
haitiando

Linden, NJ

#456 Jan 3, 2013
Are Brazilians latinos? yes. If so why can't Haitians be latinos?

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#457 Jan 8, 2013
El Cid wrote:
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When the island was Spanish the ancestors of the Haitians were still in West Africa and they were not "imported" by the French until the mid to late 1700's so Haitians have ZERO Hispanic in them and even the amount of Latin culture is miniscule .The Haitians are basically West Africans in the Caribbean with a thin French veneer.
nonsense so that means blacks in latin america are NOT real LATIN AMERICANS..

latino is an american label that has nothing to do with how people are identified in latin amerca

haiti is a latin american country..in the US they are not latino

the whole notion of latin comes from europe in culture
The French coined the term 'Latin' America in the middle of the 19th century as a means to assert French influence in the region where the Spanish and Portuguese people were

Haiti's regional, historical, and ethno-linguistic position is unique for several reasons. It was the first independent nation of Latin America and the Caribbean, the first black-led republic in the world, and the second republic in the Americas when it gained independence in 1804 as part of a successful slave revolution lasting nearly a decade

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#458 Jan 8, 2013
haitiando wrote:
Are Brazilians latinos? yes. If so why can't Haitians be latinos?
even some brasilians dont use the term they are lusitanic or luso americans

it is an interesting topic though cause in south america there are english and french speaking countries whom are not regarded in the US as being latinos but they are a latin american country themselves

countries such as guyana which is in south america are apart of the anglophone caribbean islands

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#459 Jan 8, 2013
MiMi wrote:
<quoted text> .... Are you latino??? Because if you are this ignorance doesn't surprise me lol. You guys don't know nothing about your culture or history, Americans school you on your own culture. Haitians are latino because they speak a Latin language and are Latin Americans. French, Italian, portugués, and Spanish are all Latin languages. Latinos speak Spanish, Italian, French and portugués. Hispanics describes only those who speak Spanish while "Latino" describes any Latin language spoken.... Example: Brazilians are latino and they speak Portuguese. Haitians are latinos who speak French.
Hispanic: Spanish speaking peoples of Latin America
Latino: a person of Latin american descent who speaks any of the Latin european languages(Italian, French, Portuguese, Spanish ect.)
Haitians are latino.
And another thing, latino isn't a race. There are black latinos, white latinos, native Americans and asian latinos(and mixed people).... A lot of latinos don't even know that much about themselves :/ when a native american latino(like how the majority of people from Mexico are of native descent) see a white latino, its a shock to them that this latino is white :/ how do you NOT know latino isn't a race and you're latino? Then these people 9/10 don't even know their own race, someone gas to tell them or they have to read about it.... So you not knowing that haitians are latino isn't a shock to me because a lot of latinos in general are ignorant.
what you said is true however latino,latin, are not all used in the same sense, latinos describes spanish and sometimes portuguese speakers not french, italian or andorran etc. Its just the way it is in the US.

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#460 Jan 8, 2013
Emprezz wrote:
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Lol what stupidness is this, are you trying to say that a Haitian cant migrate to the U.S and pick up an American accent? Made no sense at all because there are a shitload of immigrants from all over the world in the U.S and lots pick up the American way of speaking lol you do not know about things in your own country.
Haitians do not call themselves Latinos. I am Haitian of African descent, I am 'black' and thats that I do not go around calling myself a Latina and I do not know any that does. If I meet one I will slap them. It does not matter where we have been located or because of French language influence and even the people from France do not call themself Latinos. Only Spanish speaking people in Latin America, Spaniards,Italians and Portuguese do
BEING OF AFRICAN descent does not discount one from being latino, latino is a made up US TERM period

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#461 Jan 8, 2013
FYI-1900 wrote:
<quoted text>BEING OF AFRICAN descent does not discount one from being latino, latino is a made up US TERM period
Look I know this but a black person calling themselves Latino is just a way to not sound as african. I think some people use it to feel better by just saying 'Im Latino' instead of just saying black. Simple.

But as I said we do not call ourselves Latinos so why is everybody on Haitians ass about being Latino? Smh.
capois

West Palm Beach, FL

#462 Jan 8, 2013
haitiando wrote:
Are Brazilians latinos? yes. If so why can't Haitians be latinos?
Again, you are talking about people that are not black; not to say that AFRICANS are not doing the same? It is, and was well stated that we are not welcome in such; why degrade ourselves? As for the Dominicans, Cubans and Brazilians: I find them not fit for social intercourse. They are at sum none-responsive and can't render the likes of Haitians. Don't be fooled by phantom solidarity or illicit a cause that is not in your favor or interest. This fancy is NOT Haitian and won't pass amongst us.
Gigi

United States

#463 Jan 9, 2013
So tires and offended by ignorant people.
Pick up a book and read something.
Haïti is à diverse nation of people from all over the
World.
I am Haïtian with grandparents who were Italian Portuguese-Cuban-Spanish(From Spain) and African from my mothers side.
From my fathers side Grandparents were African,Native People,French and Cuban.
We live in this Western Hemisphere and most people who are-In the word that you can comprehend oops understand-BLACK-are of mixed race despite skin tone.
We are all part of the Human Race and there's nothing pure in this world.
I embrace all the cultures that make me in respect of my ancestors.
Ciao Imbecile espèce de petit con stupido enragè
Debordè.
Peace.
Citizen of all cultures of The Human Race!!!!
Gigi

United States

#464 Jan 9, 2013
Emprezz wrote:
<quoted text>
Look I know this but a black person calling themselves Latino is just a way to not sound as african. I think some people use it to feel better by just saying 'Im Latino' instead of just saying black. Simple.
But as I said we do not call ourselves Latinos so why is everybody on Haitians ass about being Latino? Smh.
Because of Racism Pure and not so simple.
And being Latino is not a race.
As we venture further in the third millennium hope we can all accept BEING HUMAN.
CIAO.
I.HUMAN.
Gigi

United States

#465 Jan 9, 2013
Emprezz wrote:
Give it up people us Haitians do not classify ourselves as Latinos and neither do we want to be.
Wow.
In actuality we are.
Latino meaning we are from Latin America.
Please watch Black in Latin America on PBS hosted by Dr.Gates jr.
Nou pas penyol mains Nou se Latino,
African(try telling some Haitians that)European,
Asian Middle Eastern etc.
Human Citizen Of The World.
Read Up People And Wake Up.
Gigi

United States

#466 Jan 9, 2013
May you find peace.
Somewhere sooo far away from all of creation .
And I mean all of it....]

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#467 Jan 9, 2013
Gigi, none of us Haitians call ourself that and I do not care if Latino is not a race I never said it was, but I will not call myself that & none of my family does or other Haitians I know and also on this thread..Get real.
wino

United States

#468 Jan 9, 2013
Where i live in the states being latino is a burden in some parts of this city however Haitian at some point were part of the latinos family in the last decade we have taking ourselves out we were isolated weren't participating in the Latin and caraibe nations activities since with a new president we are slowly being accepted in the latino community but not as latinos but as part of the latino community
PITIful

Yonkers, NY

#469 Jan 12, 2013
Gery wrote:
Actually Haiti was colonized by Spain before it was colonized by France. Latino has diverse meanings, one of them defines latino as any country that was colonized by a Hispanic country. In the Case of Haiti, it's Spain. And Haiti has two main languages, Creole and French. Another definition of latino is anyone whose language derived from latin. Both French and Spanish derive from latin. And also Dominicans are considered latinos while they share the same island as Haiti. It was until the French came that the island was divided.
What is now called Haiti was in effect a part of Spain since under Spain the whole island was united under one language and one culture but then then French took what is now known as Haiti and in the mid to late 1700's began importing the ancestors of the people who today call themselves Haitians.Those slaves then killed or expelled all except a handful of whites creating an almost purely African nation in the western hemisphere.
In other words today's Haiti was never a Spanish colony and due to the brutal French treatment the slaves didn't really absorb much of the French culture either so we have Africans with a thin French veneer unlike the British and Spanish islands whose ex slaves became culturally English or Spanish.
africahaiti

United States

#470 Jan 13, 2013
futile suker > mumble empty language never connects to repelling culture - yu lucifer mexico

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