Why do a lot of Greeks have black cur...

Why do a lot of Greeks have black curly hair?

Created by SoldierBio04 on Dec 3, 2009

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It comes from African-Semites

Because we are Semitic

Ancient Greeks had Curly hair

Because we are Ethiopians

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SoldierBio04

Anaheim, CA

#1 Dec 3, 2009
Please give you're opinion I'm not saying all Greeks have the Black curly look but I think 20-25% of them do.. why and were did the origin come from?
Filip the II Reincarnated

Tetovo, Macedonia

#2 Dec 3, 2009
It's all explained here:

HLA genes in Macedonians and the sub-Saharan origin of the Greeks

Correspondence to:
Antonio Arnaiz-Villena
Departamento de Inmunologia y Biologia Molecular
H. 12 de Octubre
Universidad Complutense
Carretera Andalucia
28041 Madrid
Spain

Abstract: HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A,-B,-DR,-DQ allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, particularly with their neighbouring Greeks. Genetic distances, neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The following conclusions have been reached:

1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians,

2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,

3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups.

Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305,*0307,*0411,*0413,*0416, *0417,*0420,*1110,*1112,*1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses.

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260506...
Violet

Chicago, IL

#4 May 16, 2010
Ahh i love being greek and having curly hair! My whole greek family has dmtan skin with black ( but mostly not curly) hair and dark brown eyes. All i know is that its probably more than 20-25%.
George

Merrillville, IN

#5 May 18, 2010
Filip the II Reincarnated wrote:
It's all explained here:
HLA genes in Macedonians and the sub-Saharan origin of the Greeks
Correspondence to:
Antonio Arnaiz-Villena
Departamento de Inmunologia y Biologia Molecular
H. 12 de Octubre
Universidad Complutense
Carretera Andalucia
28041 Madrid
Spain
Abstract: HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A,-B,-DR,-DQ allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, particularly with their neighbouring Greeks. Genetic distances, neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The following conclusions have been reached:
1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians,
2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,
3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups.
Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305,*0307,*0411,*0413,*0416, *0417,*0420,*1110,*1112,*1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260506...
Gee Filip, is that the 500th time you've posted the SAME single sourced test because there isn't any other proof in the world... gee those Macedonian scientists in the study must be really telling the truth. My doctor must be an idiot for not finding any African genes in my blood test....he went to some stupid medical school to get a Ph.D.

Also inbreds Africans are the least hairiest race on earth...have you seen how hairy Greeks are? Just like the Semites or Mediterraneans. Also there's no such thing as African-Semites...learn Jewish history morons.
Grayeeek

Enfield, UK

#6 May 19, 2010
George wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee Filip, is that the 500th time you've posted the SAME single sourced test because there isn't any other proof in the world... gee those Macedonian scientists in the study must be really telling the truth. My doctor must be an idiot for not finding any African genes in my blood test....he went to some stupid medical school to get a Ph.D.
Also inbreds Africans are the least hairiest race on earth...have you seen how hairy Greeks are? Just like the Semites or Mediterraneans. Also there's no such thing as African-Semites...learn Jewish history morons.
So your saying Greeks are scum? If so, I agree!
vasiliki

Birmingham, MI

#7 Jun 10, 2010
i love being greek me and my whole family has black curly hair with deep brown eyes
Anonymous

Greece

#8 Jun 11, 2010
if you ever learn biology you see that they cant be ethiopians because they cant have this skin and keep the hair!
History Channel

Burnaby, Canada

#9 Jun 11, 2010
Greeks and Italians have curly hair because the Roman slave population of black Africans mixed in when the Roman empire fell apart.
Smile B itch

Perugia, Italy

#10 Jun 11, 2010
History Channel wrote:
Greeks and Italians have curly hair because the Roman slave population of black Africans mixed in when the Roman empire fell apart.
No no no!!
That only why we have big cocks:))
You are another Slavbulgarian clown! aren't ya?
History Channel

Burnaby, Canada

#11 Jun 11, 2010
Ah, but you do admit that you've mixed with the black African population.

My cousin married a Slav and of course the children are half Slav. Other than that, that's as close to Slav as I ever get. My uncle from a different part of the family supposedly married a Ukrainian lady but when she died it was found out that she was born in Romania. She was blond like Alexander the Great.

The Slavs didn't get to the geographic area of Yugoslavia until the 5th century, Christian era, nearly 1000 years after Alexander. If you want to know why Alexander had blond hair and blue eyes, it's because the Celtic tribes were living in the area along the coast of the Black Sea, and throughout want is now Austria, Switzerland, France and into Britain. You of course, know the Celtic tribes of France or Gaul that Julius Caesar subjugated into slavery. Those were certainly not Slavic.
Smile B itch

Perugia, Italy

#12 Jun 11, 2010
History Channel wrote:
Ah, but you do admit that you've mixed with the black African population.
My cousin married a Slav and of course the children are half Slav. Other than that, that's as close to Slav as I ever get. My uncle from a different part of the family supposedly married a Ukrainian lady but when she died it was found out that she was born in Romania. She was blond like Alexander the Great.
The Slavs didn't get to the geographic area of Yugoslavia until the 5th century, Christian era, nearly 1000 years after Alexander. If you want to know why Alexander had blond hair and blue eyes, it's because the Celtic tribes were living in the area along the coast of the Black Sea, and throughout want is now Austria, Switzerland, France and into Britain. You of course, know the Celtic tribes of France or Gaul that Julius Caesar subjugated into slavery. Those were certainly not Slavic.
Fortunatelly for humans ,their genes has been mixed up for thousans of years now,and will continue mixing.(also the human genoma cn be influeced by the place you are living after some generations(we call this variation=An individual organism's phenotype results from both its genotype and the influence from the environment it has lived in.
The human genoma becomes better and better with mixtures anyway.
Basic knowledge of genetics.
I have green eyes and brown hair, white skin AND WITH THAT?
I m not a racist so i don't examine history in that way!
There are specific scientific methods and lows to examine history.
You have started the conversation with the wrong foot.
The questions are...
Macedonians spoke in Greek?
Were considered GreekS by the other Greeks?
Their names were Greeks?
They had the same costums?
Same art with the other Greeks?
same religion with the other Greeks?
ecc,,,
Then if yes or no,you have to explain WHY!!!

DO WE HAVE PROOFS LIKE INSCRIPTIONS ,ARTIFACTS WRITINGS
COINS ECC in that area AND THIS ERA?

THE TRUTH IS WHAT MATTERS IN SCIENCE(HISTORY)
HISTORY BELONG TO ALL HUMANS TO ME TO YOU...
BUT MUST BE TRUE

COLD LOGIC
NO NATIONALISM NO RACISM
JUST HISTORY

MAKE YOUR CHOISE




“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

+ Solun, Occupied Macedonia +

#13 Jun 11, 2010
agron

Tirana, Albania

#15 Jun 12, 2010
Because they are mediterrain people. they are white mediterrain people, just like Spanish people, South italians, Albanians ( we have also Alpino-dinarics in albania) West Turks, Jewsh, Lebaneses and others. most of the mediterrain people have black hair ( 50 to 80%). There are also people with fair hair ( 10 to 25%) and others. gentetically speaking greeks have more then 60% of their genes from Europe ( 50% are balkanic genes, Illyrian, helenic, thracian and macedonian). 40% of greeks have mix of jewsh, phenicians and arabo-african. Culturally speaking they have and Europen culture, they speak and Indo-european language and they quite strong byzanto-orthodox beliefs.
Smile B itch

Terni, Italy

#16 Jun 12, 2010
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
http://www.eurobasket2009.org/ en/cid_toT,ovGDH2EaLKL67XnPo2. playerID_38954.compID_qMRZdYCZ I6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2009.rou ndID_6328.teamID_291.html
Well...<smirk> yes is not my type cause i like girls
But feel free to express your self.
I prefer this beautifull Greek girl with the blue eyes !
http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/q/0/q0dn...
Also this Greek brunette is not bad
http://www.burnfishing.gr/images/slideshow/ef...

Anyway you if you prefer black man of course im not here to judge you.
:-)
George

Merrillville, IN

#17 Jun 14, 2010
Smile B itch wrote:
<quoted text>
No no no!!
That only why we have big cocks:))
You are another Slavbulgarian clown! aren't ya?
lol.

ps. slave mixing in Greco-Rome is no where near compared to that In France, Prussia, Netherlands, and England historically speaking.
George

Merrillville, IN

#18 Jun 14, 2010
History Channel wrote:
Ah, but you do admit that you've mixed with the black African population.
My cousin married a Slav and of course the children are half Slav. Other than that, that's as close to Slav as I ever get. My uncle from a different part of the family supposedly married a Ukrainian lady but when she died it was found out that she was born in Romania. She was blond like Alexander the Great.
The Slavs didn't get to the geographic area of Yugoslavia until the 5th century, Christian era, nearly 1000 years after Alexander. If you want to know why Alexander had blond hair and blue eyes, it's because the Celtic tribes were living in the area along the coast of the Black Sea, and throughout want is now Austria, Switzerland, France and into Britain. You of course, know the Celtic tribes of France or Gaul that Julius Caesar subjugated into slavery. Those were certainly not Slavic.
So Alexander the Great was a Celt and not a Macedonian? I wonder why in the all the ancient artwork he is depicted as having dark hair though and moderately olive skin. Also slavic tribes were in Greco-rome during late roman period.
History Channel

Burnaby, Canada

#19 Jun 14, 2010
Alexander's culture was Greek and genetically Alexander was Celtic, either Illyrian or Thracian both descendent from Celtic culture centered at Hallstatt, in what is now modern Austria. The Thracians are thought to be ancestors of the Swedes.

If you read the 2nd paragraph in the first link you'd read that it was more than Alexander but his soldiers as well who had blond hair and blue eyes.
source: http://ablemedia.com/ctcweb/consortium/alexan...

Alexander was born at Pella, Macedonia on the shore of Lake Loudias, near the modern Greek city of Thessaloniki. At Pella's sanctuaries, Athena, Poseidon, Aphrodite, Demeter and other deities were worshipped. Alexander was steeped in Greek culture, educated by Greek philosopher Aristotle who later advised Alexander in military campaigns. Alexander reveled in the Greek heroes of antiquity, Homer, Achilles & Odysseus.
source: http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/HellenicMac...

Most of the population of Serbia and neighbouring Montenegro is of South Slavic origin. Slavic tribes entered the region from the north during the 5th to 7th century AD, encountering Illyrian-speaking peoples.
source: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/556...

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

+ Solun, Occupied Macedonia +

#21 Jun 16, 2010
Violet wrote:
Ahh i love being greek and having curly hair! My whole greek ...
???

Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Greeks (ethnic group) in Wikipedia to CHECK FOR ALTERNATIVE TITLES OR SPELLINGS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_%28ethnic...
Smile B itch

Foligno, Italy

#22 Jun 16, 2010
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>???
Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Greeks (ethnic group) in Wikipedia to CHECK FOR ALTERNATIVE TITLES OR SPELLINGS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_%28ethnic...
Yes but for Macedonians wiki says:
The Macedonians (Macedonian: &#1052;&#1072;&#10 82;&#1077;&#1076;& #1086;&#1085;&#1094; &#1080;; transliterated: Makedonci)– also referred to as Macedonian Slavs[33]– are a South Slavic people who are primarily associated with the Republic of Macedonia. They speak the Macedonian language, a South Slavic language

The ancestry of present-day Macedonians is mixed: their linguistic and cultural origins stem largely from the 6th century migrations of various Slavic tribes to southeast Europe, yet genetically they are an amalgamation of the various peoples and civilizations that have inhabited the area throughout history. Some early 20th century researchers as William Z. Ripley, Coon[34] and Bertil Lundman[35] described the Slavic speakers in Macedonia as Bulgarians...

Ancient Macedonians were Greeks and you came in this region 1000 years after Alexander the great.

George

Merrillville, IN

#23 Jun 16, 2010
The problem is too many Greeks and Macedonians believe in the lies that they are related to their ancient ancestors due to their countries' in-security of lack of accomplishment in modern day. Look at the Italians, they more or less are related to the romans, and you never hear them bloating about their history because they have so many more modern day accomplishments. They far exceed anything Greece and Macedonia could ever do and are world re-known. Most people can't even find Greece of FYROM on a map...

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