"Republic of North Macedonia" Acceptable for Athens

There are 20 comments on the Mar 24, 2010, BalkanInsight.com story titled "Republic of North Macedonia" Acceptable for Athens. In it, BalkanInsight.com reports that:

"UN mediator Matthew Nimetz presented the idea of the name 'Republic of North Macedonia'. The Greek position on the name issue is known; it wants a composite name with a geographic qualifier that is used in relations with all other states, so it is obvious that this idea meets Greek expectations," Droutsas said in an interview with the Greek Sky ...

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Ann

Athens, Greece

#1023 Aug 12, 2010
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/alexfa...

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michalis

Australia

#1024 Oct 25, 2010
all that will happen is that you will all starve and fyrom will dissolve!!!!!!!!!!
Darko wrote:
Or a better decizion will be, if our goverment stops the negotiations i don't know why we negotiate when we know that we are Macedonians.
That is the best solutions, STOP THE NEGOTIONS, and we will be as we are today, recognized by 130-140 countries as REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA.
Why we waste our time with theese Greeks.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#1027 Oct 25, 2010
lilalo wrote:
No valid reasons for the traditional Greek hating Bulgarians to be called Macedonians!
SEE Byzantine Historian Choniates or Akominatos [the reception of the Byzantines by the bulgarian barbarians in Thrace after the sackage of 1204] to find out what feelings these barbarian ungreatful hirsute Bulgarians have always entertained against the Greeks.....it ain't new nor changing...
Yhere was no Byzantine in the history.It was manufactured in 1800s with the Hiorinimus's book of 16.century.
All lie like all Greek history.
Even Greeks' war of independence (!)

hahahaahahahaha has been executed by the albanians.

Even The famous Dervenakia was not a Greek
victory.

hahahahaahahaha

Gjeorgjio Kundurioti (first president of Greece)

Kiço Xhavella

Andoni Kryezi

Teodor (Bythgura) Kollokotroni

Marko Boçari

Laskarina Bubulina

Kostandin Kanari

Gjeorgjio (Llalla) Karaiskaqi

Odise Andruço

Andrea Miauli

Teodor Griva

All heroes of the famous war of Dervenakia were albanians not Greeks.

As usual Greek tried 90 times uprising and never done it in 450 years.

They have found Albanians

Theodoros Kolokotronis
(
Georgios Karaiskakis

Constantinos Kanaris

Manto Mavrogenous

Andreas Miaoulis

Gregorios Dikaios

hahahahaahahaha

like everything Greeks done ,their war of independence was also a lie.

Russian French English and Austrian Navy came to burn Turkish navy in Navarin.

4 big Navies versus Turks.

Greek Justice hahahahaahahahahaahah
Hahahaha
as usual Greeks used someelse's dick to f.... their own brides.
Who f.... the brides?
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#1028 Oct 25, 2010
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>Yhere was no Byzantine in the history.It was manufactured in 1800s with the Hiorinimus's book of 16.century.
All lie like all Greek history.
Even Greeks' war of independence (!)
hahahaahahahaha has been executed by the albanians.
Even The famous Dervenakia was not a Greek
victory.
hahahahaahahaha
Gjeorgjio Kundurioti (first president of Greece)
Kiço Xhavella
Andoni Kryezi
Teodor (Bythgura) Kollokotroni
Marko Boçari
Laskarina Bubulina
Kostandin Kanari
Gjeorgjio (Llalla) Karaiskaqi
Odise Andruço
Andrea Miauli
Teodor Griva
All heroes of the famous war of Dervenakia were albanians not Greeks.
As usual Greek tried 90 times uprising and never done it in 450 years.
They have found Albanians
Theodoros Kolokotronis
(
Georgios Karaiskakis
Constantinos Kanaris
Manto Mavrogenous
Andreas Miaoulis
Gregorios Dikaios
hahahahaahahaha
like everything Greeks done ,their war of independence was also a lie.
Russian French English and Austrian Navy came to burn Turkish navy in Navarin.
4 big Navies versus Turks.
Greek Justice hahahahaahahahahaahah
Hahahaha
as usual Greeks used someelse's dick to f.... their own brides.
Who f.... the brides?
SHAMELESS LYING TURKOMONGOL GENOCIDE SAVAGE==>>THE TURKOALBANIANS WERE FIGHTING ON YOUR SIDE!THE REASON WHY IN THE MEMOIRS OF THEODORES KOLOKOTRONIS!HE CLEARLY STATES THAT HIS FATHER GEORGIOS KOLOKOTRONIS SLAUGHTERED ALL TURKOALBANIANS FROM PELLOPONESE!WHERE NOT EVEN ONE WAS SPARED!AND OFCOURSE THEODORE TOOK CARE OF YOUR OTTOMAN TURKISH SAVAGES!COMPLETELY WIPING THEM OUT!WHERE NOT EVEN ONE TURK REMAINED ALIVE!
CANADEZOS

Toronto, Canada

#1029 Oct 25, 2010
Macedon 4 Ever wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats' what we are doing pal!
We are respecting ourselves very much. So respect yourself and look in the eyes of the truth and admit it once for all. Yes there is a macedonians and they will remain as ones. So your propaganda time and false history and lies are over.
Macedonia one and for always.
SHAMELESS YUGOSLAVIAN LYING PROSTITUTE!WHAT TRUTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??IS IT ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS BEING SLAVS!AND NOT HELLENES!IS IT ABOUT YOUR SLAVOBULGARIAN DIALECT BEING A MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE!IS IT ABOUT YOU DENYING THE ORIGINAL MACEDONIAN NAMES BY IMPOSING YOUR SLAVOBULGARIAN NAMES!IS IT ABOUT YOU DENYING YOUR TRUE SLAVIC ANCESTRY AND CLAIMING OUR HELLENIC IDENTITY!IS IT ABOUT STEALLING THE HELLENIC NAME OF MACEDONIA FOR SLAVIC USE!IN ORDER TO LAY TERITORIAL CLAIMS ON HELLEIC SOIL!IS IT ABOUT TEACHING YOUR KIDS IN SCHOOL COMMUNIST LIES!THAT HALF OF GREECE BELONGS TO THEM!IS IT ABOUT THE FACT THAT UN HAS FORBIDDEN THE USE OF THE VERGINA STAR FOR YOUR NATIONAL FLAG!AND YET YOU CONTINUE TO DISPLAY IT!
YUGOSLAVIAN LYING COMMUNIST PROSTITUTE!I WILL LOOK STRAIGHT INTO YOUR EYES&SPIT IN YOUR FACE==>BECAUSE YOU ARE MACEDONIAN NOTHING!
Born free - Molon lave

Adelaide, Australia

#1030 Oct 25, 2010
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>Yhere was no Byzantine in the history.It was manufactured in 1800s with the Hiorinimus's book of 16.century.
All lie like all Greek history.
Even Greeks' war of independence (!)
hahahaahahahaha has been executed by the albanians.
Even The famous Dervenakia was not a Greek
victory.
hahahahaahahaha
Gjeorgjio Kundurioti (first president of Greece)
Kiço Xhavella
Andoni Kryezi
Teodor (Bythgura) Kollokotroni
Marko Boçari
Laskarina Bubulina
Kostandin Kanari
Gjeorgjio (Llalla) Karaiskaqi
Odise Andruço
Andrea Miauli
Teodor Griva
All heroes of the famous war of Dervenakia were albanians not Greeks.
As usual Greek tried 90 times uprising and never done it in 450 years.
They have found Albanians
Theodoros Kolokotronis
(
Georgios Karaiskakis
Constantinos Kanaris
Manto Mavrogenous
Andreas Miaoulis
Gregorios Dikaios
hahahahaahahaha
like everything Greeks done ,their war of independence was also a lie.
Russian French English and Austrian Navy came to burn Turkish navy in Navarin.
4 big Navies versus Turks.
Greek Justice hahahahaahahahahaahah
Hahahaha
as usual Greeks used someelse's dick to f.... their own brides.
Who f.... the brides?
You are the epitome of why Greeks don't marry their cousins.....
Makedonec

Sydney, Australia

#1031 Oct 25, 2010
Even if we change the name of your country we will still have the name Macedonia in it weither you like it or not because we are Macedonian's you Illyrian Gayreekbanian's from Gayreecebania (Hell Assbania)!
mkz6

Mastic, NY

#1032 Oct 25, 2010
Pesky army wrote:
Personally, I feel Northern Macedonia would be very apprpriate.
Greek goat herders should not object, but why bother with them ?
The name will be decided far away from greekland.
you think so ? next century no NATOno EU

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#1033 Oct 26, 2010
Makedonec wrote:
Even if we change the name of your country we will still have the name Macedonia in it weither you like it or not because we are Macedonian's you Illyrian Gayreekbanian's from Gayreecebania (Hell Assbania)!
then Greece MUST ask you to recognize that Alexander the Great was Greek.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#1035 Oct 26, 2010
FRONDEX is to watch Greek thieves .

But they said it for the smuglers for not hurting you again after putting Turkish flag on the top of Akropolis.

They have a new system to keep the Greek thieves from EU funds.
The system goes like this.

If Greeks provided a statistics or a report about their anything to draw some funds from EU, this system works automaticaly and warns the German Taxpayers to keep Greeks away from them :))by high voltage electricity.

HAhahahahahahaha
hahahahahaahaha

Frondex is a good solution to keep Theives(Greeks)away from the EU FUNDS and treasure:)))
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE

Kozáni, Greece

#1036 Oct 26, 2010
OguzTolga wrote:
FRONDEX is to watch Greek thieves .
But they said it for the smuglers for not hurting you again after putting Turkish flag on the top of Akropolis.
They have a new system to keep the Greek thieves from EU funds.
The system goes like this.
If Greeks provided a statistics or a report about their anything to draw some funds from EU, this system works automaticaly and warns the German Taxpayers to keep Greeks away from them :))by high voltage electricity.
HAhahahahahahaha
hahahahahaahaha
Frondex is a good solution to keep Theives(Greeks)away from the EU FUNDS and treasure:)))
GyftoSkopian.....why you use fake nick name?clown nation.....monkeydonian!!!!!
oguztolga

Istanbul, Turkey

#1038 Oct 26, 2010
MAKEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE wrote:
<quoted text>GyftoSkopian.....why you use fake nick name?clown nation.....monkeydonian!!!!!
does it hurt bad?
hahahaahaha
you shoul be got used to it .Because you have been feeling turkish dick on your azzhole since 1300AD:)))
Does it still hurt?
michalis

Australia

#1040 Oct 27, 2010
false history you say !!!!!!!!!!
Tell that to the historians ,archeologists , academics ,scholars ,and just educated people WORLDWIDE , of every nation ,who are all laughing at you .If you can convince these independant people that fyrom is real ,then you are a genius !!!!!!!!!
Macedon 4 Ever wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats' what we are doing pal!
We are respecting ourselves very much. So respect yourself and look in the eyes of the truth and admit it once for all. Yes there is a macedonians and they will remain as ones. So your propaganda time and false history and lies are over.
Macedonia one and for always.
Jurnalist Nalistella

Greece

#1042 Oct 31, 2010
Giati onomastike o Aleksandros Megas?

Giati onomastike o Aleksandros Megas?
Dite na ma3ete oloi osoi endiafereste pragmatika.
Kata ton Mesaiwna nomizan oi koutofraggoi oti epeidi htan megalo to ergo tou onomazeto etsi,
Ke arxisan na Baptizoun mega p.x.Iwanni Aurillio Na
polewn Petro k. o. ka3eksis.
La3os megalo pou otan to ema3an afisan tin Elliniki paidia mesw tis Maswnikis Stoas stin lan3asmeni ektimisi pou prwtistos itane dikitous
agnoia.
MEGAS ONOMAZETO O EKASTOTE BASILEUS TWN PERSWN epidi eixane kyrieusi diafora Basilia ke ta eswmatosan stin Autokratoria tous me Satrapies ke
Of3almous Basilikous.Opou ke autoi ta piran apo tous prwteron Xettaious omou ke oi Egyptioi.
Oi arxaioi Ellines stis metaksitwn syzitisis syni3izan na apokaloun ton Mega Basilea enowntas
twn ekastote Persi Autokratora,
Otan o Aleksandros forese tin tiarra stef3ike diadoxos tou Dareiou ke logika arxise na anaferete
ke eis ta efhmera tou metwpou ws Megas Basileus
ke o Aleksandros ektote stis efhmerides ws Aleksandros o Megas Basileus dioti epapse ton titlo tou Autokratwr se Basilea.Ke oi diadoxoi tou
Basilis onomas3ikan.Allo Autokratwr kiallo Basileas.
Me tin ataksia pou epivaloun mesw twn praktorwn oi
organwmenoi kata ta alla KOUTOFRAGGOI erxwnte na mas poulisoun myalo ke mas ipotimisan ekson tis draxmis ke emas san an3rwpous. Pou oti exoun apo tin leksi politismos proerxete apo auti tin xilliovasanismeni Xwra.
Auta ta liga pros enimerwsi twn apopsewnmas ke opioi diafwnoun dikewmatous.
Hermolaos apo Makellin

Jurnalist Nalistella
Thessaloníki, Greece
quantum

Kilsyth, Australia

#1043 Oct 31, 2010
OguzTolga wrote:
FRONDEX is to watch Greek thieves
mutated idiot
Mutations may make humans walk on all fours
Genetic analysis revives dispute about why some humans are quadrupeds.
Heidi Ledford
Interest in quadrupedal humans was sparked by a 2006 report on this Turkish family.Jon LaneA mutated gene may have a role in a rare condition in which humans walk on all fours, researchers say. But precisely how mutations in this gene might stop people from walking upright remains a matter of debate.
The existence of quadruped humans was first publicized by a 2006 British television documentary about a Turkish family in which several adults walk on all fours. Those with the condition also suffer from mental retardation and poor balance.
Since the broadcast, others with the condition have come to light, including one family in Brazil and another in Iraq. The affected individuals all move by what is called a ‘bear crawl’: resting their weight on their wrists and keeping their legs straight and their rears lifted in the air.
One researcher, Uner Tan of Çukurova University in Adana, Turkey, has controversially claimed that the quadrupeds have reverted back to an evolutionary stage before humans walked upright2. He referred to the condition as ‘devolution’— that is, evolution run in reverse. By that reasoning, the Turkish family could harbour mutations in the genes that allow humans to walk upright, and finding those genes would allow researchers to pinpoint an important event in human evolution.
But others denounced that interpretation.“That was an outrageous claim,” says psychologist Nicholas Humphrey of the London School of Economics, who has also studied the condition.“It didn’t make any sense in genetic or evolutionary terms.” Instead, Humphrey argues that the families have more general problems with balance, and walk on all fours because they did not receive sufficient medical treatment. Give the afflicted a walker, he says, and they are able to stand up and walk.
Disrupted development
Today, at the European Society of Human Genetics meeting in Barcelona, Spain, researchers presented the isolation of a gene that is affected in some quadrupedal families. Tayfun Özçelik of Bilkent University in Ankara, Turkey, and his colleagues, who first published their findings in March, analysed four Turkish families. They found that quadruped individuals in two of the families carry a mutation in a gene called VLDLR1. The gene encodes a protein called very low-density lipoprotein receptor, which is required for proper neural development.
Özçelik does not support the ‘devolution’ concept, but does feel that the VLDLR protein must be specifically important for the ability to walk upright. However, not everyone agrees: the publication of his findings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA prompted two letters, published last week, disputing that claim3,4. Both argued that the mutations in VLDLR produce a more general effect on brain development, particularly in the region of the brain called the cerebellum, which is important in motor control.
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“We’ve found mutations in genes that are involved in development of the cerebellum, but what they’re doing is producing non-specific underdevelopment,” says Humphrey, who, with a team of collaborators, also pinpointed the VLDLR gene in some quadruped patients5.“It’s not necessarily a part of the cerebellum concerned with learning to walk. It could be just balance and the ability to stand upright."
Balancing act
But Özçelik counters that there are dozens of known syndromes that affect the sense of balance, yet none results in quadrupedal behaviour. He also notes that several of the families actively sought medical help, with one family travelling to visit more than ten different doctors. A walker, he says, sometimes helps but those with the syndrome quickly cast it aside and return to walking on all fours.
quantum

Kilsyth, Australia

#1044 Oct 31, 2010
The Aussie

Ferntree Gully, Australia

#1048 Nov 21, 2012
Most of the Masso's from the Northrn part of Greece migrated to Australia in the 50's & 60's and I thank my dad for that and marrying a Aussie girl from Scottish decent as a vist to Greece in 2003 confirmed why they did as the country is a dirty Piss hole with lazy buggers that won't work or pay their taxes.That is why it is in the black now. I don't give a rats if I'm from Greek or Macedonian decent . I live in Australia and speak english not in the past arguing what happened.
HELLFIRE

Sydney, Australia

#1049 Nov 21, 2012
The Aussie wrote:
Most of the Masso's from the Northrn part of Greece migrated to Australia in the 50's & 60's and I thank my dad for that and marrying a Aussie girl from Scottish decent as a vist to Greece in 2003 confirmed why they did as the country is a dirty Piss hole with lazy buggers that won't work or pay their taxes.That is why it is in the black now. I don't give a rats if I'm from Greek or Macedonian decent . I live in Australia and speak english not in the past arguing what happened.
Then shut the f@k up dumba55 vermin slav.
Makedon Greek

Athens, Greece

#1050 Feb 1, 2013
Republic of ridiqulus
Constantinos Makedonas

Balgowlah, Australia

#1051 Feb 2, 2013
In the entire Macedonian region the ancient gravestones and tombs being ecavated carry "Greek" inscriptions, not "slavo-Bulgarian".
As someone who only reads modern Greek I can still read and understand what is written on these stone today.
Tell me slavo-vardarian.. what do they say ??

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