Sour grapes?

Sour grapes?

There are 250 comments on the BBC Europe Edition story from Mar 28, 2011, titled Sour grapes?. In it, BBC Europe Edition reports that:

Inside the vast, stainless steel tanks of the Skovin winery, 17 million litres of smooth red and white wine slowly mature.

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Karamanlis

Skopje, Macedonia

#263 Apr 22, 2011
Ann wrote:
<quoted text>oh my
yeah ok whatever
you don't want to know.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#264 Jul 4, 2011
STORI wrote:
If anything tastes like vinegar it is crassos, the very name means sour (kras_atko/kras_livo) in Macedonian. Poor greek malakas. They sell something they dont like, something they used to mix with water, something they named sour (crassos)and now they are trying to tell the world that they invented the wine. No my dear greek friends. The wine originates from Macedonia and not Greece.
It is worth mentioning once more for our truthseeking forumreaders.
PHILIP THE MACEDONIAN

Germany

#265 Jul 4, 2011
STORI wrote:
<quoted text>
It is worth mentioning once more for our truthseeking forumreaders.
Long live Macedonia !Macedonia is Hellenism!
Macedonians are Greeks since 3000 years! Not Fyromians, titoistic yugoslavian pseudonation.
Greek history of Macedonia:Herodot Book 1

"but under Dorus, the son of Hellen, they moved to the tract at the base of Ossa and Olympus, which is called Histiaeotis; forced to retire from that region by the Cadmeians, they settled, under the name of Macedni, in the chain of Pindus. Hence they once more removed and came to Dryopis; and from Dryopis having entered the Peloponnese in this way, they became known as Dorians."

56. Of all the answers that had reached him, this pleased him far the best, for it seemed incredible that a mule should ever come to be king of the Medes, and so he concluded that the sovereignty would never depart from himself or his seed after him. Afterwards he turned his thoughts to the alliance which he had been recommended to contract, and sought to ascertain by inquiry which was the most powerful of the Grecian states. His inquiries pointed out to him two states as pre-eminent above the rest. These were the Lacedaemonians and the Athenians, the former of Doric, the latter of Ionic blood. And indeed these two nations had held from very early times the most distinguished place in Greece, the one being a Pelasgic, the other a Hellenic people, and the one having never quitted its original seats, while the other had been excessively migratory; for during the reign of Deucalion, Phthiôtis was the country in which the Hellenes dwelt, but under Dorus, the son of Hellen, they moved to the tract at the base of Ossa and Olympus, which is called Histiaeotis; forced to retire from that region by the Cadmeians, they settled, under the name of Macedni, in the chain of Pindus. Hence they once more removed and came to Dryopis; and from Dryopis having entered the Peloponnese in this way, they became known as Dorians.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_Hero...

In Macedonian:56
http://el.wikisource.org/wiki/%CE%99%CF%83%CF...

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#266 Jul 4, 2011
Just now i am sipping the dry red wine from Australia-
"Jin da-lee 2009 Shiraz.
Not bad-
Grapes in Australia; south africa; California are different in taste.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#268 Nov 27, 2012
If anything tastes like vinegar it is crassos, the very name means sour (kras_atko/kras_livo) in Macedonian. Poor greek malakas. They sell something they dont like, something they used to mix with water, something they named sour (crassos)and now they are trying to tell the world that they invented the wine. No my dear greek friends. The wine originates from Macedonia and not Greece.
Wine Guy

San Jose, CA

#270 Jan 26, 2013
Pretty weird situation. Greece is home to the ancient kingdom of Macedonia so I think they should've just used another name. I wonder if that winery has wine cabinets. http://www.finewinecabinets.com/
Skopians are ancient fake

Graz, Austria

#271 Jan 26, 2013
No idea fakedonskis fyromians?
Bronzilla

Chalkída, Greece

#272 Jan 26, 2013

“Makedonia Vergina Sun”

Since: Jun 08

Thessaloniki

#275 Jul 18, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>They produced Macedonian Red and Macedonian White decades before gaydalla copyrighted the name.

In international court this copyright would be overthrown, but fortunately for gaydalla, the winary cannot aford the legal fees in germany to sue gaydalla.

For the time being anyway
Sorry Bud, this is what the world knows as Macedonian wine

http://www.tsantali.com/portfolio/makedonikos...

http://www1.churchillcellars.com/products-red...

“Makedonia Vergina Sun”

Since: Jun 08

Thessaloniki

#276 Jul 18, 2013
STORI wrote:
If anything tastes like vinegar it is crassos, the very name means sour (kras_atko/kras_livo) in Macedonian. Poor greek malakas. They sell something they dont like, something they used to mix with water, something they named sour (crassos)and now they are trying to tell the world that they invented the wine. No my dear greek friends. The wine originates from Macedonia and not Greece.
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>They produced Macedonian Red and Macedonian White decades before gaydalla copyrighted the name.

In international court this copyright would be overthrown, but fortunately for gaydalla, the winary cannot aford the legal fees in germany to sue gaydalla.

For the time being anyway
Sorry Bud, this is what the world knows as Macedonian wine

http://www.tsantali.com/portfolio/makedonikos...

http://www1.churchillcellars.com/products-red...

As far as the etymology of "krasi" (not crassos you box head) the meaning of the word is "to mix" since the ancient Greeks used to mix their wine with water.
"Crassos" as you point out is not a Greek word so if it means "sour" in your funny language then enjoy it. Get your facts straight you ignorant Slav.

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