Giant Statue of Philip of Macedon Erected in Skopje

May 22, 2012 Full story: BalkanInsight.com 383

A giant 29-metre tall bronze statue of the ancient warrior king, Philip of Macedon, was erected on Tuesday in the heart of the Macedonian capital Skopje amidst a cheering crowd of spectators.

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Since: Mar 09

Athens, Greece

#393 Jun 11, 2012
Greek Malaka wrote:
"Bloodlines from the Ethnic Pride to Ethnic Terrorism"
By Vamik Volkan
Page: 121
“....In reality however, just before the Greek war of independence, most Greeks still referred to themselves as ‘Romans. Vlachavas, the priest rebel leader who rose against the Ottomans, declared,‘A Romneos I was born a Romneos I will die.”
Hey MALAKOSLAVO,

No matter how many time you regurgitate your stale, STINKING VOMIT, it won't turn back into wine!

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#394 Jun 12, 2012
Damianos wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey MALAKOSLAVO,
No matter how many time you regurgitate your stale, STINKING VOMIT, it won't turn back into wine!
Hahahahahahahaha!!!
I bet your forefathers, ancestors or ethnicity is Albanian, Vlach, Slav or christian Turk. Which of these are you?:-))))))

Come on, be true to yourself now and how some self-respect. It works in the long-run. Otherwise you will end up with a corrupt and bankrupt state with lies. Oh wait-a-minute, you are already there...

====

Since: Mar 09

Athens, Greece

#395 Jun 12, 2012
Greek Malaka wrote:
<quoted text>
I bet your forefathers, ancestors or ethnicity is Albanian, Vlach, Slav or christian Turk. Which of these are you?:-))))))
Come on, be true to yourself now and how some self-respect. It works in the long-run. Otherwise you will end up with a corrupt and bankrupt state with lies. Oh wait-a-minute, you are already there...
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My ancestors were PURE GREEKS, unlike yours that are definitely from the bastard race from the biggest melting pot in the Balkans, that shit hole called FYROM!

Hahahahahahahaha!!

Australopithican monkeydonkey,

The reality is that it is YOUR SHIT HOLE of a country that has ONE THIRD of it's population as OFFICIALLY ALBANIAN MUSLIMS and another third GYPSIES! The rest of you are CONFUSED, DELUDED SLAVO/BULGARIAN/TURKO/MONGROLS and you have f*ck all to do with Macedonia!

One thing is absolutely clear: If you don't modify the name to take into consideration Greece's objections regarding the History and your stated desire to 'liberate' parts of Northern Greece, THERE WILL BE NO EU AND NATO IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU!

"Makedonija is only GREEK, Makedonija is Hellenic!"

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#397 Jun 12, 2012
Damianos wrote:
<quoted text>
My ancestors were PURE GREEKS,
Lets see what history says - then we will know what ethnic race your ancestors are.

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Modern Greece A Short History
C.M. Woodhouse

Page 163

"....It is a striking fact that the leading defenders of Greek liberty at this time were largely Non-Greek. Koundouriotis was decended from the Albanian invadors of Greece in the 14th century...One of the few leaders who maintained resistance far to the north of the Gulf of Corinth was the Souliote,Marko Botsaris,whos followers were largely Albanian"

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Edmond About

Greece and the Greeks of the Present Day, Edinburgh, 1855 (translation of La Grèce contemporaine, 1854):

"....Athens, twenty-five years ago, was only an Albanian village. The Albanians formed, and still form, almost the whole of the population of Attica; ... "The Turkish village which formerly clustered round the base of the Acropolis has not disappeared: it forms a whole quarter of the town.... An immense majority of the population of this quarter is composed of Albanians."

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POLITICS IN MODERN GREECE
By Professor Keith R. Legg

Page 86:

LANGUAGE

"..At the time of independence, the range in local dialects was significant; substantial portions of the population spoke Albanian"

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"The Usable Past" - 2003
By K.S Brown & Professor Yannis Hamilakis

Page 140:

"..As a result of a number of historical factors, much of the rural population in central Greece was Albanian-speaking by the time of the creation of modern Greek state in the 1830s"

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VENIZELOS (Famous Greek Statesman - Prime Minister: 1910-1920, 1932)
By Herbert Adams Gibbons, Ph.D

Page 346:

"...Venizelos advanced the famous theory of national consciousness as the test of nationality..."One may be temped", he said, "to raise the objection that a substantial portion of the Greek population uses ALBANIAN as its mother tongue, and is, consequently, in all probability, of Albanian orgin"

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William ST. Clair
“That Greece Might Still Be Free”
Oxford University Press – 1972

Page 228:

“..The rich Hydriote ship-owner, Conduriottis, held the title of President of Greece. He was an Albanian, unable to speak Greek.

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"Collective Memory"
By Victor Roudometof

Page 155

"...Theodoros Pangalos (President of Greece in 1925) considered himself a friend of Albania, spoke Albanian, and was proud
of his half-Albanian orgin"

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T. J. Winnifrith
“The Vlachs: The History of a Balkan People”

Page 139:

“...One of Greece’s first and best Prime Ministers was John Kolettis, a Vlach who dressed like a Turk and had been court physician to Ali Pasha.”

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"The Empty Cradle of Democracy"
Alexandra Halkias

Page 59:

"...Through the end of the revolution in 1830, Greeks, including most of the nineteenth-century nationalists, seemed to have had a vague but firm sense of continuity from ancient to modern Greece, though this was not articulated in racial terms but on the basis of a common language, history and consciousness. In effect at this time, whoever called themselves a Greek was a Greek. It is because of this that many Greek-speaking Albanians, Slavs, Rumanians and Vlachs were easily assimilated and indeed became important players in Greek patriotism at the time.”

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Fake Skopian

Hausmannstatten, Austria

#398 Jun 12, 2012
Makedonija is the Greek name Makedonia in Serbocroatian. It is not Skopian name.
Macedonians, Pontians, Athenians, Lakedaimonians, Aitolians, Thessalians, Epirots,etc, are all Greeks! Not Slavobulgarians!!
GEOROX

Chicago, IL

#399 Jun 12, 2012
Greek Malaka wrote:
<quoted text>
Edmond About
Greece and the Greeks of the Present Day, Edinburgh, 1855 (translation of La Grèce contemporaine, 1854):
"....Athens, twenty-five years ago, was only an Albanian village. The Albanians formed, and still form, almost the whole of the population of Attica; ... "The Turkish village which formerly clustered round the base of the Acropolis has not disappeared: it forms a whole quarter of the town.... An immense majority of the population of this quarter is composed of Albanians."
From YOUR source!

Greece and the greeks of the present day, Edmond About (page 27)
http://books.google.com/books...

"The Greek race composes the GREAT MAJORITY of the nation.This is a truth which it has been attempted to discredit. According to a certain parodoxical school, there are no more Greeks in Greece—all the population is Albanian, that is to say, Slav.*

It is not difficult to see the tendency of such a doctrine, which changes the sons of Aristides into fellowcitizens of the Emperor Nicholas. But it is enough to have eyes to be able to distinguish the Greeks—a slim and delicate race—from the coarse Albanians. THE GREEK RACE HAS VERY LITTLE DEGENERATED, and those tall young men with a slender waist, oval face, quick eye, and ready wit, who fill the streets of Athens, are surely of the family that furnished models to Phidias."

Fyromian propaganda is easily reputable!
Offended Monkey

Toronto, Canada

#400 Jun 12, 2012
OGUZ TOLGA MONkEY TURKIYE wrote:
<quoted text>
leave me alone, im eating my banana!
Did you have a couple of ribs removed to be able to reach "your banana"?

“RESISTANCE = RESULTS”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#401 Jun 12, 2012
Offended Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you have a couple of ribs removed to be able to reach "your banana"?
Hows the homo floppy going? Jealous much that Macedonians erect more?
1821AssiMILATEDs adGREEKS

Skopje, Macedonia

#402 Jun 13, 2012
The Lie Detector wrote:
<quoted text>HAHAHAHAAH..you pontian scum..anatolia, syria and egypt is where all modern greeks stem from..THIS INCLUDES YOUR SORRY ASS FOR A CHEAP CHEATING LAZY GAYREEK...
you kill me....praise the majmun he has spoken!!!LOL
HAHAHA DIAMONOS ASIMILRANO GJUBRE ,,,,,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OVIE GJUBRINA ASMILIRANI SE MNOGU SMESNI,,,, NE ME ENTERESIRAAT STO KAZUVAAT ,,,SEKOJ DEN SI SE SMEJAM,,,,,,,,
POZZZZZ
CANADEZOS

Scarborough, Canada

#403 Jun 13, 2012
mkCODE wrote:
Let's face it! Ancient Macedonian vs Ancient Greeks, huge difference:
1. In the time of Ancient Macedonia, the Greek nation didn't existed, so the idea of nationhood and unification is total absurd.
2. Ancient Macedonians weren't sort of Greeks.
Basic facts: Ancient Macedonia was kingdom with capital of Pella and they adored women. Ancient Greeks were City-states and they adored men and Vaseline was their favorite play toy. It's not a joke.
3. A. Macedonia was land locked kingdom, nothing like the Vaselines, which were sailors and leaved near the sea.
4. Macedonian phalanx war suite was similar with the Thracian, which were as well inland inhibitors.
5. All the Thracian and Macedonain land in now days are inhabited with Slavs.
6. Slav in translation means Orthodox. With Christianity, Macedonians and Thracians became Slavs.
7. The Venetic language is to be considered the most oldest language in Europe. It is well known is the proto Slavic, spoken way before proto Greek invasion from Africa.
8. The only bases of Macedonians greekness of the Vaselines version is based of the inscriptions on ancient Greek, nerveless that Ancient Maceodnians spoke different language not understandable for Greeks. But inscriptions were!
9. Macedonians used Greek language for administrative purposes, since their language was not writable.
10. Ancient Macedonians were warriors, Ancient Greeks were Vaseline philosophers akka translators of a Egyptian science and philosophers.
Shell I go on...?
'Cause it will take a lot of time...
AJDE VRE ILLITERATE YUGOSLAVIAN IMBECILE==>>THE WORD PHALANX!LIKE EVERY MILITARY MACEDONIAN WORD IS OF GREEK ORIGIN!YUGOSLAVIAN MORON MACEDONIANS WERE PROTOHELLENES!AND NOT PROTOSLAVS!THE MACEDONIAN IDENTITY WAS ALWAYS HELLENIC SINCE BIRTH! THERE IS NOTHING MACEDONIAN WHICH IS NOT GREEK!AND LIKEWISE THERE IS NOTHING MACEDONIAN WHICH IS SLAVIC!!YOU ARE NOT HELLENES!YOU ARE FKN SLAVS WHO BELONGS TO THE SLAVIC RACE!AND HAS FAK ALL TO DO WITH ANYTHING HELLENIC&MACEDONIAN!

http://s_van_dorst.tripod.com/ Ancient_Warfare/Greece/greek_g lossary.html

“NAME NOT NEGOTIABLE!!!!”

Since: May 10

MACEDONIA THEREFORE ELLAS!!

#405 Jun 15, 2012
Makedonika", Regina Books, Claremont CA
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émigrés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity [...] The twentieth-century development of a Macedonian ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the Macedonians, who have had no history, need one. They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom, which has borne the Macedonian name as a region ever since and was called ”Macedonia” for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language now recognized by most linguists outside Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece as a south Slavic language separate from Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, and Bulgarian. Their own so-called Macedonian ethnicity had evolved for more than a century, and thus it seemed natural and appropriate for them to call the new nation “Macedonia” and to attempt to provide some cultural references to bolster ethnic survival..
Greek Malaka wrote:
"Bloodlines from the Ethnic Pride to Ethnic Terrorism"
By Vamik Volkan
Page: 121
“....In reality however, just before the Greek war of independence, most Greeks still referred to themselves as ‘Romans. Vlachavas, the priest rebel leader who rose against the Ottomans, declared,‘A Romneos I was born a Romneos I will die.”
Anon

Skopje, Macedonia

#406 Jun 21, 2012
Mr Kavokian wrote:
Makedonika", Regina Books, Claremont CA
Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and fyro-Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émigrés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity [...] The twentieth-century development of a Macedonian ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the Macedonians, who have had no history, need one. They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom, which has borne the Macedonian name as a region ever since and was called ”Macedonia” for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language now recognized by most linguists outside Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece as a south Slavic language separate from Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, and Bulgarian. Their own so-called Macedonian ethnicity had evolved for more than a century, and thus it seemed natural and appropriate for them to call the new nation “Macedonia” and to attempt to provide some cultural references to bolster ethnic survival..
Proving you wrong is such a easy task:

http://oi56.tinypic.com/2nktjjs.jpg

source:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/10/1...

Look under Macedonians R1a Frequency 15% and under it Macedonian(Greek) R1a Frequency 35% which is more slav me or you Greek peasant.

The second group comprises most southern Slavic populations: Bulgarians, Croats in Dalmatia and Herzegovina, Bosniaks, Macedonians and Serbs, who have a significantly lower frequency of R1a (~15%). According to the authors, this phenomenon is explained by "...contribution to the Y chromosomes of peoples who settled in the Balkan region before the Slavic expansion to the genetic heritage of Southern Slavs..."

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17364156

"Other perspective interprets the literary evidence, and the archaeological-cultural differences between Old Macedonia and central-southern Greece prior to the 5th century and beyond, as evidence that the Macedonians were originally non-Greek tribes who underwent a process of Hellenization.[161][162] Accepting that political factors did play a part, they also highlight that the degree of antipathy between Macedonians and Greeks was of a different quality to that seen amongst other Greek states, even those with a long-term history of mutual animosity (e.g. Sparta and Athens).[163] Rather, "it is only with the emergence of Rome as a common enemy in the west that the Macedonians came to be regarded as "northern Greeks". This is precisely the period during which ancient authors, such as Polybius and Strabo, began to call ancient Macedonians "Greeks"."

Source: Danforth, Loring M.(1997). The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-04356-6.

Barr-Sharrar, Beryl; Borza, Eugene N.(1982). Macedonia and Greece in Late Classical and Early Hellenistic Times. National Gallery of Art. ISBN 0-89468-005-6.

"R.S.P. Beekes claims that the morphological analysis make-(root)+-dnos (suffix) is impossible in an Indo-European word and that it is more likely that the word has a Pre-Greek origin.[25]"

Source: Robert S. P. Beekes, Greek etymological dictionary.
LMAO

Greece

#408 Jun 21, 2012
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Proving you wrong is such a easy task:
http://oi56.tinypic.com/2nktjjs.jpg
source:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/10/1...
Look under Macedonians R1a Frequency 15% and under it Macedonian(Greek) R1a Frequency 35% which is more slav me or you Greek peasant.
The second group comprises most southern Slavic populations: Bulgarians, Croats in Dalmatia and Herzegovina, Bosniaks, Macedonians and Serbs, who have a significantly lower frequency of R1a (~15%). According to the authors, this phenomenon is explained by "...contribution to the Y chromosomes of peoples who settled in the Balkan region before the Slavic expansion to the genetic heritage of Southern Slavs..."
Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17364156
"Other perspective interprets the literary evidence, and the archaeological-cultural differences between Old Macedonia and central-southern Greece prior to the 5th century and beyond, as evidence that the Macedonians were originally non-Greek tribes who underwent a process of Hellenization.[161][162] Accepting that political factors did play a part, they also highlight that the degree of antipathy between Macedonians and Greeks was of a different quality to that seen amongst other Greek states, even those with a long-term history of mutual animosity (e.g. Sparta and Athens).[163] Rather, "it is only with the emergence of Rome as a common enemy in the west that the Macedonians came to be regarded as "northern Greeks". This is precisely the period during which ancient authors, such as Polybius and Strabo, began to call ancient Macedonians "Greeks"."
Source: Danforth, Loring M.(1997). The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press. ISBN 0-691-04356-6.
Barr-Sharrar, Beryl; Borza, Eugene N.(1982). Macedonia and Greece in Late Classical and Early Hellenistic Times. National Gallery of Art. ISBN 0-89468-005-6.
"R.S.P. Beekes claims that the morphological analysis make-(root)+-dnos (suffix) is impossible in an Indo-European word and that it is more likely that the word has a Pre-Greek origin.[25]"
Source: Robert S. P. Beekes, Greek etymological dictionary.
Your comment and references prove a shit...
Hellenization of Macedons? Show us an evidence of that and not just hypotheses?
Your DNA tests are a filthy racist bullshit...
Anon

Skopje, Macedonia

#409 Jun 21, 2012
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
Your comment and references prove a shit...
Hellenization of Macedons? Show us an evidence of that and not just hypotheses?
Your DNA tests are a filthy racist bullshit...
Hypotheses? you mean hypothesis and there's two whole books about it and in my comment i've listed both books as sources judging by your reading capabilities i'd say there's a pretty good chance you are stupid, don't like the DNA tests go tell them to the geneticists that made them if they listen to what a dumbfuck like you has to say.
LMAO

Greece

#410 Jun 21, 2012
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Hypotheses? you mean hypothesis and there's two whole books about it and in my comment i've listed both books as sources judging by your reading capabilities i'd say there's a pretty good chance you are stupid, don't like the DNA tests go tell them to the geneticists that made them if they listen to what a dumbfuck like you has to say.
A hypothesis (from Greek &#8017;&#960;&#972 ;&#952;&#949;&#963 ;&#953;&#962;; plural hypotheses)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis

You are as illiterate as it can be... Completely
Your references are not enough even for a 5 years old...

Cheers

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#411 Jun 21, 2012
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
A hypothesis (from Greek &#8017;&#960;&#972 ;&#952;&#949;&#963 ;&#953;&#962;; plural hypotheses)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis
You are as illiterate as it can be... Completely
Your references are not enough even for a 5 years old...
Cheers
Greece needs Jesus Christ as PM and his miracles to make Greeks WORKING not STEALING as their PM to recover :))
LMAO

Greece

#412 Jun 21, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>
Greece needs Jesus Christ as PM and his miracles to make Greeks WORKING not STEALING as their PM to recover :))
hahah... nice one
:)
The Lie Detector

Kew, Australia

#413 Jun 21, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>
Greece needs Jesus Christ as PM and his miracles to make Greeks WORKING not STEALING as their PM to recover :))
If your a Macedonian,
its greatly appreciated.
Don't impersonate a Turk if your Macedonian we don't appreciate that !
Apollo

Deer Park, Australia

#415 Jun 21, 2012
Apollo

Deer Park, Australia

#416 Jun 21, 2012
The Lie Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
If your a Macedonian,
its greatly appreciated.
Don't impersonate a Turk if your Macedonian we don't appreciate that !
He is Slav,like you!!
Not a Greek,not a Macedon.

Malakes!!

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